Gsx/gsxrr

[Brayden]

Can anyone give me some feedback on these bikes? Reliable/Expensive to fix/How fast can they go past 100km/h/Comfortability etc etc. Cheers

[onearmedbandit]

Being a gixxer fanatic from way back it pains me to say this but if you are looking at a sports 250 (excluding two strokes) the GSXR would not be top of the list. The CBR250RR is probably the most popular, reliable (rectifier/regulator not so much) bang for buck 250's. There are more of them around, therefore there is a wider knowledge base and supply of parts, both factory and aftermarket. But like for like you will pay more for a CBR.

If you are looking at the GSX250F, that's a good little bike. No stormer, but tidy, cheap and reliable.

Comfort wholly depends on you, we all are built differently, different length limbs etc, so what's comfortable for you may well not be for the next guy.

[Brayden]

Unfortunately my budget is sitting around 3k, I was looking around and thought this is probably the best bang for my buck around this price.. The right bike for me is something quick than can hold its own above speeds of 100 kmh on private closed roads of course and that is nice through twisties. I also have a little bit of a back problem so comfort is also something I'm interested in.

Also being in Windy Wellington that huge windshield is definitely appealing

[MSTRS]

Also being in Windy Wellington that huge windshield is definitely appealing

Don't be fooled. A 'huge windshield' or fairings for that matter, are no guarantee of being better in the wind. Often they are much worse. Depends on the individual model/s.

[Beren]

Can anyone give me some feedback on these bikes? Reliable/Expensive to fix/How fast can they go past 100km/h/Comfortability etc etc. Cheers

If it has the same engine as the Bandit 4cyl then yes it will go past 100 easily... mine does approx 100 in 3rd, 120 in 4th 140 in 5th... so if I could find a VERY long straight bit it should do 160. Obviously depends on the gearing... I'd guess that the old gsxr engine was the 45hp variant too so it would do even better than my later 40hp version of the inline4.

-edit- that is indicated speed though, I am probably overstating by up to 10%

[FJRider]

Don't be fooled. A 'huge windshield' or fairings for that matter, are no guarantee of being better in the wind. Often they are much worse. Depends on the individual model/s.

It turns into a sail ... you mean ... :facepalm:

[tigertim20]

Can anyone give me some feedback on these bikes? Reliable/Expensive to fix/How fast can they go past 100km/h/Comfortability etc etc. Cheers

look for a cbr 250, of the inline 4 250's, Id say they are the best overall when reliability, longevity etc is all taken into account.
Comfort will depend, how tall are you? at 6ft they are okay. not great but okay. with a back problem, it would probably be a bitch

[Ender EnZed]

Can anyone give me some feedback on these bikes? Reliable/Expensive to fix/How fast can they go past 100km/h/Comfortability etc etc. Cheers

If you're talking about 250s it'd be a waste of time/money/effort trying to "upgrade" from your Spada.

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If you must upgrade to another 250, I'd suggest you look at the gsf250 bandit, same engine as the gixxer, but more upright riding position and no fairings to act like a sail. You would probably be better off keeping your spada untul you get your full though.

[Beren]

If you must upgrade to another 250, I'd suggest you look at the gsf250 bandit, same engine as the gixxer, but more upright riding position and no fairings to act like a sail. You would probably be better off keeping your spada untul you get your full though.

Obviously I completely agree :innocent:

[lone_slayer]

Iam 6'1" @ about 100kg and love my gsxr250 no problem over 100k iam almost thinking of changing the gearing as it dosent realy like the top 2 gears at 100 really wants to sit on about 110 and 120 comfortably and no problem getting some loss of lisence speed. The bike corners great and the wind I have never found an issue....

[Brayden]

Sounds like the resounding sound is to keep the spada. Looks like i'll have to invest in a windshield when the next wad of money comes in

[Chancebmx25]

u wanna get urself ur a two stroke. get the manual to wateva two stroke u own. hit the internet and the user manual learn about ur two stroke, then just ride and enjoy. u crnt go wrong. one of the easiest machines to work on. nothing hard at all.

[Cam_Valk]

Hey.
My gsx r250 still puts a grin on my face everytime i take it out.
If you're keen to have a look/sit/maybe test ride, come round and check out mine.
Give me a PM if you're keen.

[Ender EnZed]

u wanna get urself ur a two stroke. get the manual to wateva two stroke u own. hit the internet and the user manual learn about ur two stroke, then just ride and enjoy. u crnt go wrong. one of the easiest machines to work on. nothing hard at all.

It's even easier to just own a Spada and not have to work on it.

[Chancebmx25]

It's even easier to just own a Spada and not have to work on it.

or that. but theres enjoyment in working on something u love.

[imdying]

It's even easier to just own a Spada and not have to work on it.If super gutless and boring is your thing, sure.

[Ender EnZed]

If super gutless and boring is your thing, sure.

Even a GN125 is faster than a work bench.

[tigertim20]

u wanna get urself ur a two stroke. get the manual to wateva two stroke u own. hit the internet and the user manual learn about ur two stroke, then just ride and enjoy. u crnt go wrong. one of the easiest machines to work on. nothing hard at all.


If super gutless and boring is your thing, sure.

some people prefer to spend most of their time riding, apart from the oil and filter every 5k.
2 strokes are fun, but not for everyone. theyre shit for commuting, as anyone who has used one for that purpose for any length of time will tell you. theyre all good and well for some fun, but theyre not at all an all round bike.

[Chancebmx25]

some people prefer to spend most of their time riding, apart from the oil and filter every 5k.
2 strokes are fun, but not for everyone. theyre shit for commuting, as anyone who has used one for that purpose for any length of time will tell you. theyre all good and well for some fun, but theyre not at all an all round bike.

there a great commuter when you know how to ride them. i commute myn from town most days and easily weave them through traffic. u can sit in first and second gear and weave through traffic no sweat seeing there so light and tight. its just a matter of getting use too. ive ridden two strokes my whole riding life so its what im use too. but as for others yes they can be a pain with clutch control and all, takes time to get use to like everything.

[imdying]

Even a GN125 is faster than a work bench.Just because you are poor at maintaining motorcycles, that doesn't reflect on the motorcycles themselves. They also commute fine, it's just a waste of a great bike.

If you want to go to sleep, and want people to laugh at all that noise with no go (love the IL4s, baaaaaaaaaaaaaaarp, oh look 20km/hr, yay) then definitely get yourself something gutless like a CBR/ZXR/Spada/GN.

[Ender EnZed]

Just because you are poor at maintaining motorcycles, that doesn't reflect on the motorcycles themselves.

The amount of maintenance required does reflect though.


If you want to go to sleep, and want people to laugh at all that noise with no go (love the IL4s, baaaaaaaaaaaaaaarp, oh look 20km/hr, yay) then definitely get yourself something gutless like a CBR/ZXR/Spada/GN.

None of this is likely to be a problem to a new rider. For anyone else, get a bigger bike. I bet a 250 2t isn't the fastest thing in your garage.

[imdying]

The amount of maintenance required does reflect though.The amount of maintenance isn't large, but it is regular. That's the thing, they're a high performance enthusiasts bike. If you're just buying a 250 so you can save money on gas, or cause all your mates are doing it, then sure buy a 4 stroke... they're slow, but you can treat them badly. Almost all the old 250s are in bad way now... neglectful owners, the ravages of time, etc etc... but it's only the 2 strokes that you'd bother restoring.


I bet a 250 2t isn't the fastest thing in your garage.Of course not, not even the second fastest thing. But it's more fun than the all the other bikes. I'd go so far to say that my 40cc air cooled mini moto is more fun than anything else in the garage, and that's a big call given it's stable mates.

[Ender EnZed]

The amount of maintenance isn't large, but it is regular.

I'd call it "more than a 4 stroke".


That's the thing, they're a high performance enthusiasts bike. If you're just buying a 250 so you can save money on gas, or cause all your mates are doing it, then sure buy a 4 stroke... they're slow, but you can treat them badly. Almost all the old 250s are in bad way now... neglectful owners, the ravages of time, etc etc... but it's only the 2 strokes that you'd bother restoring.

Most people, including OP, buy a 250 because that's what they're allowed on their learners. I haven't touched one since the day after I got my full.


Of course not, not even the second fastest thing. But it's more fun than the all the other bikes. I'd go so far to say that my 40cc air cooled mini moto is more fun than anything else in the garage, and that's a big call given it's stable mates.

Unfortunately my garage is made out of plastic that says "Oxford" on it and only fits one bike. (Though a mini moto would fit inside the house...)

[imdying]

I'd call it "more than a 4 stroke".Just different... I've never had to remove my cams to replace the shims on my 2 stroke, but I've never cleaned the powervalves on my 4 stroke either.


Most people, including OP, buy a 250 because that's what they're allowed on their learners. I haven't touched one since the day after I got my full.You are missing out then :yes:

[MSTRS]

If super gutless and boring is your thing, sure.

Show me a (road legal) 250 that isn't...it's all relative.
A Spada will eat a GSX250, not be embarrassing against a GSXF and will be snapping at the heels of a GSXR.
How many road legal 2T's are still out there?

[imdying]

Show me a (road legal) 250 that isn't...it's all relative. Only if you consider peak power to be the be all end all... it's all in the delivery. Relative to GSX1300R, yes they're all gutless, but that's no reason why you should be drumming your fingers yawning up to that modest peak.

There will be less and less two strokes on the road as time goes by; emissions laws have killed off new ones, so the supply will always be dwindling. Worse is that the mechanical abilities of the average motorcyclist are going the way of the car driver, it's a loss us for sure. Making it more of a shame is that the mechanical ability required to correctly maintain a two stroke 250 is actually pretty low, but the scaremongering and the state of many of those left makes too many scared to even give it a go. Tragic when you consider that a dozen hand tools and a workshop manual makes doing a top end on one a doddle. Just don't break the golden rule (maintain, not neglect) and you're fine.

[Ender EnZed]

You are missing out then :yes:

Probably. But as long as I don't find it too hard to have fun on a bigger 4 stroke I won't complain.