View Full Version : Hyosung 250 cup coming your way!
Ken Dobson and Richard Scott from Hyosung NZ are well doen the track in planning with the Hyosung 250 cup,To be held in conjunction with the AMCC nad run at all 5 of their Protecta series rounds,Some big prizemoney on offer,There are 11 riders in the AK area who have shown interest and we have 4 bikes here available as well,For more information go to NZSBK and check it out!
malcy25
8th May 2011, 18:42
From the info I've seen, it looks AWESOME (with an O!)
Could be tempted even, if lease bikes were available!
Mental Trousers
8th May 2011, 18:46
O for awesome Billy and others :niceone:
well done hyosung, leading the way in prize money................
might see south islanders visiting
Kiwi Graham
8th May 2011, 20:57
An absolutely awesome initiative from Hyosung. You can actually win money!!! and gain points down to 17th!! Podiums and all the razamataz of being involved in dealer backed racing, Fan-bloody-tastic.
matdaymon
8th May 2011, 21:17
Damn thats cool. Something to look forward to in later years when I'm not poor as all buggery and being crushed by my uni workload :violin:
lostinflyz
8th May 2011, 21:59
one bit i noticed was hyosung coming onboard and providing help and assistance at the track, and a spares catalog. A great way to lower costs i thought!!!
I hope this works at well for all who put it together
From the info I've seen, it looks AWESOME (with an O!)
Could be tempted even, if lease bikes were available!
Mate!!Have I got the deal for you,LOL.
All of our bikes (4) are available for this series at this stage,First up best dressed
jaffaonajappa
9th May 2011, 21:16
Mate!!Have I got the deal for you,LOL.
All of our bikes (4) are available for this series at this stage,First up best dressed
Ok. How much?
Am about to get a commuter bike - but am about to go and relook at the GTR lol. What sort of dosh is needed for a seasons racing? Assuming riding gear and bike transport is already sorted? Oh and....how much are you leasing out the 4 bikes for?
gixerracer
9th May 2011, 21:26
Ken Dobson and Richard Scott from Hyosung NZ are well doen the track in planning with the Hyosung 250 cup,To be held in conjunction with the AMCC nad run at all 5 of their Protecta series rounds,Some big prizemoney on offer,There are 11 riders in the AK area who have shown interest and we have 4 bikes here available as well,For more information go to NZSBK and check it out!
how much prize money
Ok. How much?
Am about to get a commuter bike - but am about to go and relook at the GTR lol. What sort of dosh is needed for a seasons racing? Assuming riding gear and bike transport is already sorted? Oh and....how much are you leasing out the 4 bikes for?
If you lease 1 of our bikes its $1250 for the 5 round Hyosung cup,The bikes are supplied at round 1 with a new pair of Bridgestone BT003s,New racecompound brake pads and chain,Bikes are dynotuned and have a slip on muffler,Fibreglass fairings and are race prepped,We take care of all the servicing and transportation,All you need to do is enter the bike and the only other liability you have is for crash damage
how much prize money
$10,000.00 or $2000.00 per round
jaffaonajappa
9th May 2011, 21:55
ok, ok. Sounds Awesome!! Guess im off soon to apply for a race licence :/. And see if i can get some time off.
'tis just such a pity when they screw you over about self-imploding engines though.
Not that i'm bitter or anything.
Kickaha
9th May 2011, 22:17
how much prize money
You signing up for it? you might not be man enough for a bike like that
'tis just such a pity when they screw you over about self-imploding engines though.
Not that i'm bitter or anything.
Assuming your talking about Hyosung,I find that really hard too believe considering the bike Simon Vollmer used for last season Has now done 10 race days and 15 test days with no more maintenance than regular oil changes and filters,That bike had done 26,000 ks when I got it,The bike my son Paul Billington rode to 2nd in the NZ championship had done 52,000 ks before we turned it into a racebike and has done in excess of 15 days at race pace, In fact out of the 4 bikes we ran this year that accumulated over 90 track and racedays between them,The only failures we had were 1 CDI and 1 ignition switch that was an aftermarket item as the bike had been stolen and recovered and absolutely NO MECHANICAL failures at all.
jaffaonajappa
10th May 2011, 00:11
Fact is......U been Pwnd!
Assuming your talking about Hyosung,I find that really hard too believe considering the bike Simon Vollmer used for last season Has now done 10 race days and 15 test days with no more maintenance than regular oil changes and filters,That bike had done 26,000 ks when I got it,The bike my son Paul Billington rode to 2nd in the NZ championship had done 52,000 ks before we turned it into a racebike and has done in excess of 15 days at race pace, In fact out of the 4 bikes we ran this year that accumulated over 90 track and racedays between them,The only failures we had were 1 CDI and 1 ignition switch that was an aftermarket item as the bike had been stolen and recovered and absolutely NO MECHANICAL failures at all.
Yeah, 'cause every bike Hyosung ever produced has been perfect.
You get the odd dud one in a production line. no big deal, but when a piston decides to implode, and takes the conrod and crankshaft with it, on a relatively sedate road ride, 14 months after being bought brand new, you'd expect to at least get a reply to e-mails and phonecalls.
Bikes fail, no big deal, but the customer service I received was the worst experience i've ever gone through, and i've subsequently completely given up on Hyosung, and have actively encouraged the beginners that I do know from buying one.
Good for the Racing scene though.
oyster
13th May 2011, 21:55
Are they running to MNZ Prolite rules?
Billy
15th May 2011, 17:53
Are they running to MNZ Prolite rules?
Yes,But with the inclusion of power commanders for the fuel injected bikes.
RideLife
15th May 2011, 18:42
So, They are admitting then that Power Commanders were never legal under MNZ Rules?
So why would they add PC's to there Hyo Cup class and break open Pro lite racing right down the middle? :facepalm:
as presumably, these 'Power Commanded' Hyo Cup GT's won't be running in the same champs as 'normal' within the MNZ rules Pro lites.
RobGassit
15th May 2011, 19:00
So, They are admitting then that Power Commanders were never legal under MNZ Rules?
So why would they add PC's to there Hyo Cup class and break open Pro lite racing right down the middle? :facepalm:
as presumably, these 'Power Commanded' Hyo Cup GT's won't be running in the same champs as 'normal' within the MNZ rules Pro lites.
Hyosung will get the rules changed. Power commanders were used on some Hyosungs during the Nationals anyway. I have photos to prove it. They could fit turbos if they wanted,, until they take some weight off those boat anchors they won't get close to a Ninja.
RobGassit
15th May 2011, 19:02
Please note,, All the Billy bikes were as God intended.. If you doubt it,,, look at how slow they were.. Nuff said..
lostinflyz
15th May 2011, 19:06
only makes sense to allow Power commanders, seen as you can change the jetting on the carby bikes.
the new ninja's are injected im told so can't hurt.
oyster
15th May 2011, 22:18
What a great way (not) to kick off a new national class. Cheating on day one.
I hope any Hyosung rider with a Power Commander competing in a National Pro Lite race had the decency to exclude themselves from the points / trophies.
If people think the rules are bad, then apply to get them changed. When they change, only then change the bike. The only way around it is to run Supplementary rules, I guess that's what the Auckland club are doing.
wayne
15th May 2011, 22:29
oyster,
your talking for yourself, not your son of course...............
Billy
15th May 2011, 22:54
So, They are admitting then that Power Commanders were never legal under MNZ Rules?
So why would they add PC's to there Hyo Cup class and break open Pro lite racing right down the middle? :facepalm:
as presumably, these 'Power Commanded' Hyo Cup GT's won't be running in the same champs as 'normal' within the MNZ rules Pro lites.
There are plans afoot to have the power commanders included,As has already been stated by Tim,The new Ninjas are fuel injected as well,But theyrehaving a few problems at commission level agreeing,Fully agree they should be allowed power commanders,But not the auto tune some were running in last years championship as well.As far as which bike is better remains too be seen,Nobody outside of Jared Pike showed anywhere near the commitment Seth Devereux did last season and his lap recordat Manfeild is .4 of a second off what he did last year as he wason tyres that had done in excess of 15 races and 5 test days,The 1.27.2 he did in 2010 was done at his first ever visit to Manfeild,I have no doubt if he was back there again on that bike with new tyres he'd be in the very low 26s.
puddytat
16th May 2011, 00:33
So, They are admitting then that Power Commanders were never legal under MNZ Rules?
So why would they add PC's to there Hyo Cup class and break open Pro lite racing right down the middle? :facepalm:
as presumably, these 'Power Commanded' Hyo Cup GT's won't be running in the same champs as 'normal' within the MNZ rules Pro lites.
Cool,they can run against me on my Spada...& a powercommander still wont help 'em:innocent:
oyster
16th May 2011, 10:37
John Adair (Wayne). if you've got something to say, say with honesty and clarity.
Insults and accusations using vague sarcasm and innuendo give your comments no value or credibility
Shaun
17th May 2011, 06:28
oyster,
your talking for yourself, not your son of course...............
Is the rest of your name spelt with wayneKER
Paul in NZ
17th May 2011, 08:03
Man - I cant figure out why I dont bother going to see or sponsor road racing in NZ...
Everyone bitches about the costs and no sponsorship etc, an importer steps up and does something pretty cool, or at least makes a start on it and it turns into this. Its pretty tragic.
Good on the Hyo Importers. I'm very impressed that they have bothered trying to support a class thats obviously important to them. It shows a bit of class and initiative. However - the riders really ought to take a step back and look at the bigger picture. At this rate I would be surprised if they do it again.
Maido
17th May 2011, 08:08
From what I have read here, looks like this is to be held at a club round, not nationals at this stage.
To be held in conjunction with the AMCC nad run at all 5 of their Protecta series rounds,
Billy
17th May 2011, 08:41
From what I have read here, looks like this is to be held at a club round, not nationals at this stage.
Yip,Thats correct,There were talks surrounding 2 rounds of the Tri series being added to it to make it 7 rounds,But it just couldnt be done.
To the best of my knowledge there was never any intention to make it part of the Nationals.
oyster
17th May 2011, 10:54
Yes, no doubt about it, a distributor showing any support is great. In can only be good
But don't confuse this support as promoting growth in youth road racing in NZ
Because it's not.
It's in one place, exclusively on bikes outside an MNZ class (ie excludes Streetstock,
Kawasaki, and other Prolite bikes. (Which so far have whipped the Hyosungs)
Any rider can go out and win the money, including any age group or Nation champ competency. (And they WILL turn up)
It's free world, I'll say it again, good on them though for taking some initiative.
Billy
17th May 2011, 12:35
Yes, no doubt about it, a distributor showing any support is great. In can only be good
But don't confuse this support as promoting growth in youth road racing in NZ
Because it's not.
It's in one place, exclusively on bikes outside an MNZ class (ie excludes Streetstock,
Kawasaki, and other Prolite bikes. (Which so far have whipped the Hyosungs)
Any rider can go out and win the money, including any age group or Nation champ competency. (And they WILL turn up)
It's free world, I'll say it again, good on them though for taking some initiative.
Absolutely agree Pete,
Another area I have identified as a problem is in the past the last round of the AMCC series has clashed with the South Island rounds of the Nationals,Meaning anybody with a Hyosung planning on doing the nationals is at a disadvantage with this series and yes there are people from the other national classes that have brought bikes for this series already,As far as the Hyosung not being competitive with the Kawasaki's,What a load of rubbish!!Max proved at Timaru the bikes capable,He was only 2 seconds off both Jared Pike and Seth Devereux at his first attempt at a track as technical as levels is where Seth and Jared have done hundreds of laps,As far as the guys on my bikes,They just werent experienced enough too adapt and really didnt have a clue how!Alex Faulkner was streets ahead of ALL the riders on my lease bikes,Also at that stage,All my lease bikes were running standard jetting.
codgyoleracer
23rd May 2011, 14:36
Yes, no doubt about it, a distributor showing any support is great. In can only be good
But don't confuse this support as promoting growth in youth road racing in NZ
Because it's not.
It's in one place, exclusively on bikes outside an MNZ class (ie excludes Streetstock,
Kawasaki, and other Prolite bikes. (Which so far have whipped the Hyosungs)
Any rider can go out and win the money, including any age group or Nation champ competency. (And they WILL turn up)
It's free world, I'll say it again, good on them though for taking some initiative.
Absolutley no place to knock anyone looking to put a bit back into the sport.
Good on you Ken & Richard + the Auckland club for taking the initiative & putting something up for grabs & in place.
My money is on Craig Shirriffs to win the inaugural event.
GW
codgyoleracer
23rd May 2011, 14:40
Absolutely agree Pete,
Another area I have identified as a problem is in the past the last round of the AMCC series has clashed with the South Island rounds of the Nationals,Meaning anybody with a Hyosung planning on doing the nationals is at a disadvantage with this series and yes there are people from the other national classes that have brought bikes for this series already,As far as the Hyosung not being competitive with the Kawasaki's,What a load of rubbish!!Max proved at Timaru the bikes capable,He was only 2 seconds off both Jared Pike and Seth Devereux at his first attempt at a track as technical as levels is where Seth and Jared have done hundreds of laps,As far as the guys on my bikes,They just werent experienced enough too adapt and really didnt have a clue how!Alex Faulkner was streets ahead of ALL the riders on my lease bikes,Also at that stage,All my lease bikes were running standard jetting.
Point of order:
levels isnt technical mate ...... You just dont know how to ride thats all.... :-)
Billy
23rd May 2011, 14:51
Point of order:
levels isnt technical mate ...... You just dont know how to ride thats all.... :-)
You must have drunk too much coffee at dinnertime Glenis,My name wasnt even mentioned in the post you idiot,Not that Im arguing with you about my riding skills although Im sure I finished more races than you during the nationals and I wasnt even supposed to be riding ROFLMAO!!!
codgyoleracer
23rd May 2011, 14:54
You must have drunk too much coffee at dinnertime Glenis,My name wasnt even mentioned in the post you idiot,Not that Im arguing with you about my riding skills although Im sure I finished more races than you during the nationals and I wasnt even supposed to be riding ROFLMAO!!!
Haha - real racers dont drink coffee , thats why i gobble 2 ltrs a day mate.
P.S - get a haircut
crazy man
23rd May 2011, 17:12
lm sure that is whisky in your cubboard at work (-;
codgyoleracer
23rd May 2011, 17:19
lm sure that is whisky in your cubboard at work (-;
Haha - that went missing ages ago, some engineer stole it i was told.
AllanB
23rd May 2011, 17:29
Yeepers - tough crowd!
Well don't Hyo. Surely any sponsored racing is good racing?
Years back I really enjoyed watching the 883 Harley class - lots of noise and action.
RobGassit
24th May 2011, 08:58
Yeepers - tough crowd!
Well don't Hyo. Surely any sponsored racing is good racing?
Years back I really enjoyed watching the 883 Harley class - lots of noise and action.
And dare I say,,, similar performance,,, chuckle, chuckle.:rofl:
javawocky
25th May 2011, 12:54
...My money is on Craig Shirriffs to win the inaugural event...
I would pay good money to see and end of season invitational race on these things. Say 15 riders from 1000, 600 and 125's all dicing on stock 250's - repair bill might be a little steep afterwards.
jetskibum1
19th July 2011, 21:16
Well I have brought one for this series and maybe a second one in the pipeline so I hope there are 35 on the grid as planned so I can be thrashed by the young guns but maybe out brake some of the old dogs.
Good on Hyosung for stepping up in a crap economy and making what may be the biggest class on the grid.
Shaun
19th July 2011, 22:38
Well I have brought one for this series and maybe a second one in the pipeline so I hope there are 35 on the grid as planned so I can be thrashed by the young guns but maybe out brake some of the old dogs.
Good on Hyosung for stepping up in a crap economy and making what may be the biggest class on the grid.
Bloody good on ya and welcome aboard
Shaun
19th July 2011, 22:40
I would pay good money to see and end of season invitational race on these things. Say 15 riders from 1000, 600 and 125's all dicing on stock 250's - repair bill might be a little steep afterwards.
I HONESTLY have to say that is the MOST Healthy intelligent post I have read on here java
jellywrestler
19th July 2011, 22:44
I would pay good money to see and end of season invitational race on these things. Say 15 riders from 1000, 600 and 125's all dicing on stock 250's - repair bill might be a little steep afterwards.
this used to happen every year in queenstown on hire scooters...
and yes they did devastate the hire companies stock
jellywrestler
19th July 2011, 22:45
And dare I say,,, similar performance,,, chuckle, chuckle.:rofl:
didn't matter, when you had Robert Holden and Ant Young amongst others on them you knew that the pace was hot
Shaun
20th July 2011, 08:48
this used to happen every year in queenstown on hire scooters...
and yes they did devastate the hire companies stock
The GSXR750 Prod racing was the best form of racing I have ever seen in this country, rrr those were the days of hard racing and LOTS of paint swapping
quickbuck
20th July 2011, 18:14
.....and LOTS of paint swapping
Doesn't really matter if they are all the same colour ;)
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