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Kickaha
9th May 2011, 21:11
Ruapuna B Track, 15th October

Classes
F4/F5
Motards
Pre82/89
Streetstock

More shit to be announced later sometime maybe

richban
9th May 2011, 21:23
Good stuff. Will start saving.

F5 Dave
10th May 2011, 09:25
Will start gaining credit with Wife & convince her she wants to look after the tykes for 3 days.

This is a great race guys. Not to be missed.


Hmm, who can take my bike down?

F5 Dave
19th May 2011, 17:47
Hey has there been any move to promote or apply for the open 50GP? Kind of fell flat last year, but who knew about it?

richban
6th July 2011, 19:59
If enough people from the north were keen I think it would be good idea to rent a little truck and ship some bikes down. I have just done a big moving mission form chch for me mum and I reckon you could fit about 12 bikes in the back of the little truck I hired. It also had a tail lift. Very handy. I reckon it would cost about $60 per bike complete trip. Depending on timing with my work I might be going down a week early to hang with the family, but could still put my hand up to drive. Will keep you posted. This is the best bucket event on the calendar this year. Don't miss it.

Kickaha
6th July 2011, 20:04
If enough people from the north were keen I think it would be good idea to rent a little truck and ship some bikes down.

The more you bring down to get their arses kicked the better:woohoo:

koba
6th July 2011, 20:38
If enough people from the north were keen I think it would be good idea to rent a little truck and ship some bikes down. I have just done a big moving mission form chch for me mum and I reckon you could fit about 12 bikes in the back of the little truck I hired. It also had a tail lift. Very handy. I reckon it would cost about $60 per bike complete trip. Depending on timing with my work I might be going down a week early to hang with the family, but could still put my hand up to drive. Will keep you posted. This is the best bucket event on the calendar this year. Don't miss it.

Sterling idea.
It's almost certainly off the cards for us this year but maybe next. (plus I should have more power then, quite an important consideration for the track)

richban
6th July 2011, 21:18
The more you bring down to get their arses kicked the better:woohoo:

Now Now. You don't want to scare people away with that sort of inflammatory talk. I am sure it will be all sunshine and teddy bears like last time. With group hugs and back slapping for all.

Dutchee
6th July 2011, 21:23
Hmm, wonder if any dorklanders would be keen. Weekend before is Kaitoke (the board game, plus there might be some actual riding involved). Leave your bikes down there, book a flight and fly down to meet the bikes down south somewhere.

Work out the logistics of getting the bikes back before the two hour up here, or see if anyone would be keen to drag them back up (leave trailers in Wellywood).

Right, now that I can see a plan in action, it's time to say we're definitely OUT. I've got some fast guys in leathers to watch and perve at. But I reckon some others should look at getting a plan together to head down.

Kickaha
6th July 2011, 21:25
I am sure it will be all sunshine and teddy bears like last time. With group hugs and back slapping for all.

Fuck that namby pamby bullshit, it's open warfare :ar15:

I guess I better build a bike in the next month or two then

richban
6th July 2011, 21:30
Fuck that namby pamby bullshit, it's open warfare :ar15:

I guess I better build a bike in the next month or two then

Ok then. I can't wait to smear all you goat fucking toothless hillbillies around your home track again.:shutup:

That better.

Yow Ling
7th July 2011, 06:33
We looking forward to the annual visit from the special Olympians from wellington too !

Muzzab
7th July 2011, 08:24
If you Northies are planning a bucketing adventure and wanted to put the icing on the cake, the Greymouth Street Races are on Labour Weekend, the weekend after the BoB. Bring your own goat.

Cheers
Muzza

Str8 Jacket
7th July 2011, 09:01
Sterling idea.
It's almost certainly off the cards for us this year but maybe next. (plus I should have more power then, quite an important consideration for the track)

I think that they're probably lucky that I am not coming.... :facepalm:

F5 Dave
7th July 2011, 10:08
Put me down for two bikes. I need two but always seem to end up doing the David & Goliath thing on my 50. Hey I just realised the name thing.

Kickaha
7th July 2011, 18:35
I think that they're probably lucky that I am not coming.... :facepalm:

I dunno last time it gave me time to put some warmer clothing on while they scraped you up

richban
10th July 2011, 18:09
If you Northies are planning a bucketing adventure and wanted to put the icing on the cake, the Greymouth Street Races are on Labour Weekend, the weekend after the BoB. Bring your own goat.

Cheers
Muzza

Very keen. Never done a street race. Is there a good bucket field usually?

Kickaha
10th July 2011, 18:48
Very keen. Never done a street race. Is there a good bucket field usually?

Nah, normally only enough to reach the track limit in numbers :lol:

Yow Ling
10th July 2011, 20:13
Very keen. Never done a street race. Is there a good bucket field usually?
Work out a way to be there, its as good as it gets.

ajturbo
10th July 2011, 20:43
Work out a way to be there, its as good as it gets.

yeah.. some of the best racing i have done is around that town on the bucket... back in the mid 90's on a DT100...:doh:

F5 Dave
19th July 2011, 15:02
Wellington & North guys; we need to make some progress on getting to the BOB this year. Its a good race on a great track, well worth the trip.


3 months to go.


Who's keen?

grantnz
19th July 2011, 18:24
If enough people from the north were keen I think it would be good idea to rent a little truck and ship some bikes down. I have just done a big moving mission form chch for me mum and I reckon you could fit about 12 bikes in the back of the little truck I hired. It also had a tail lift. Very handy. I reckon it would cost about $60 per bike complete trip. Depending on timing with my work I might be going down a week early to hang with the family, but could still put my hand up to drive. Will keep you posted. This is the best bucket event on the calendar this year. Don't miss it.

The wife was interested in this and suggested we make a week of it. Then a mate e-mailed and he suggested Moto Gp at Phillip Island same weekend, boyz only. What to do? Checked the airpoints and the Brownie points, and Phillip Island it is.
Probably won't have either this time next year, so Ruapuna will have to wait til then. Cheaper to go to Aus as well.

Muzzab
19th July 2011, 18:53
Very keen. Never done a street race. Is there a good bucket field usually?

The field is limited to 35 and is usually one of the first to fill up. Entries on a first in basis.
You do need a full MNZ Licence (no day licences) and have stamps from three track races in your log book to do a street race.

Cheers
Muzza

husaberg
19th July 2011, 20:36
Who's keen?

If the northerners were keen on doing the Greymouth street race as well it way pay not to delay the accommodation booking as most of the accommodation is booked out a year in advance so it would pay for those keen to sort it out quickly.

F5 Dave
19th July 2011, 21:31
But there's still heaps of room in Chch. They keep complaining central city hotels are almost empty. Too soon?:shutup:


Anyway Ruapuna is a great race meet, usually two days worth & a bunch of good cunts to race with.

Doesn't have to be that expensive, can likely billet with other local racers. If we get a few going down there makes it quite cheap to travel.

I've driven down friday most years & done the late haul for the ferry on sunday & slept on the way back (take earplugs & a pillow).

This year I'm on restricted time as I have two young kids & the wife is happy for me to go for a night, but two is pushing it.

For once I'm keen to fly down if someone can take my bike/s for generous $. I might even be able to whangle some accom for someone else (have yet to ask).

husaberg
21st July 2011, 20:58
But there's still heaps of room in Chch. They keep complaining central city hotels are almost empty. Too soon?:shutup:


Maybe to soon yes Dave:facepalm:

I am not saying accommodation in Greymouth is not available but it is a finite resource.ESP with the pike stuff going on.

I could put up a couple of North Island bucket racers in Greymouth and include a CR500af Supermoto to a suitably qualified 50kg Psycho with a death wish and a low IQ.

Buddha#81
22nd July 2011, 13:14
I can put up a couple of outta towners if the wanna live life in the South Brighton red zone, hey the way my roads are we could do a bit of "off roading" on friday night to entertain the troops!

richban
25th August 2011, 16:23
Ruapuna B Track, 15th October



Is the friday going to be a test day like last time? Couldn't quite see it on the website.

ellipsis
25th August 2011, 16:35
...slight adjustment to Kicks OP...all CAMS classes...moderns/motards...

Yow Ling
25th August 2011, 17:45
Is the friday going to be a test day like last time? Couldn't quite see it on the website.

Almost every friday and Tuesday are public days, about $50 for 1/2 day

koba
25th August 2011, 20:26
Almost every friday and Tuesday are public days, about $50 for 1/2 day

$50 for a half days testing on the edge of town. That is a hugely under-rated asset to Cantabrian racers.

richban
25th August 2011, 20:33
$50 for a half days testing on the edge of town. That is a hugely under-rated asset to Cantabrian racers.

Yep full track to. You get to use the dipper as long as there are no cars on at the same time. Opp's learnt the hard way, fucken out of towners. Mad corner. The sweeper on the other hand has got to be the longest corner I have ever encountered. Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Almost! no still going.

koba
25th August 2011, 20:39
Yep full track to. You get to use the dipper as long as there are no cars on at the same time. Opp's learnt the hard way, fucken out of towners. Mad corner. The sweeper on the other hand has got to be the longest corner I have ever encountered. Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Almost! no still going.

Cool, we did the BOB in 2008 and loved it. If finances and injuries allowed we'd be down there in a shot!

Henk
26th August 2011, 07:54
Cool, we did the BOB in 2008 and loved it. If finances and injuries allowed we'd be down there in a shot!

I may have a plan for next year. Will discuss at the NI round

gav
26th August 2011, 19:12
Sadly the days of the good old Battle of the Buckets events which were first and foremost a BUCKET racing event, seem to have been over looked by the new President and current committee. This years BoB event is scheduled as ONE race during the lunch break in a regular CAMS meeting. Quite how this turn of events has come about is beyond me. As far as I know CAMS don't even have the booking for the race date.
This event was once the main stay of the Bucket Motorcycle Racing Club (http://www.bmrc.co.nz/) and has had quite a proud history of putting on great events. It was also one of the few events where the club was able to make a small financial gain to keep the coffers going.
Seems the new race meeting will not be holding the advertised classes either, and will have the usual CAMS classes, Pre 62, Pre 72 etc ...
And this is progress ... :confused:

Kickaha
26th August 2011, 19:16
Sadly the days of the good old Battle of the Buckets events which were first and foremost a BUCKET racing event, seem to have been over looked by the new President and current committee. This years BoB event is scheduled as ONE race during the lunch break in a regular CAMS meeting. Quite how this turn of events has come about is beyond me. As far as I know CAMS don't even have the booking for the race date.

Perhaps you could step up, run your own event and show them how its done then

Yow Ling
26th August 2011, 19:17
Sadly the days of the good old Battle of the Buckets events which were first and foremost a BUCKET racing event, seem to have been over looked by the new President and current committee. This years BoB event is scheduled as ONE race during the lunch break in a regular CAMS meeting. Quite how this turn of events has come about is beyond me. As far as I know CAMS don't even have the booking for the race date.
This event was once the main stay of the Bucket Motorcycle Racing Club (http://www.bmrc.co.nz/) and has had quite a proud history of putting on great events. It was also one of the few events where the club was able to make a small financial gain to keep the coffers going.
Seems the new race meeting will not be holding the advertised classes either, and will have the usual CAMS classes, Pre 62, Pre 72 etc ...
And this is progress ... :confused:

Im sure its just a glitch in the matrix , Wallace seems to have chosen the blue pill

gav
26th August 2011, 19:20
Perhaps you could step up, run your own event and show them how its done then
Thanks for your input Kickaha, possibly at your advanced age you can no longer remember the previous events? And I guess just one race would suit you well too? :laugh:

richban
26th August 2011, 19:34
Sadly the days of the good old Battle of the Buckets events which were first and foremost a BUCKET racing event, seem to have been over looked by the new President and current committee. This years BoB event is scheduled as ONE race during the lunch break in a regular CAMS meeting. Quite how this turn of events has come about is beyond me. As far as I know CAMS don't even have the booking for the race date.
This event was once the main stay of the Bucket Motorcycle Racing Club (http://www.bmrc.co.nz/) and has had quite a proud history of putting on great events. It was also one of the few events where the club was able to make a small financial gain to keep the coffers going.
Seems the new race meeting will not be holding the advertised classes either, and will have the usual CAMS classes, Pre 62, Pre 72 etc ...
And this is progress ... :confused:


Ha? So not the same as last year then. Would there still be 5 races?

Grumph
26th August 2011, 19:38
It started to go downhill when you guys lost access to Wigram.....any of your committee Ngai Tahu ?

try getting a booking for a raceday on Ruapuna which isn't in the middle of winter...there are an awful lot of other people who want to use the place too.

gav
26th August 2011, 19:41
Yeah, you will get plenty of races. Should get 5 rounds in. Just doesn't look like there will be a separate F5 race this year. Buckets will be all in one. CAMS run a good meeting and certainly seem to get through the races pretty quickly, depending on the crash rate.
Grateful for their help, just a shame the original idea and concept seems to have been overlooked. As Yow Ling has mentioned maybe its just a one off, and its the easy way out. Hopefully in the future we can return to how it used to be.

gav
26th August 2011, 19:44
It started to go downhill when you guys lost access to Wigram.....any of your committee Ngai Tahu ?

try getting a booking for a raceday on Ruapuna which isn't in the middle of winter...there are an awful lot of other people who want to use the place too.
Yeah, how rude, turning Wigram into a housing estate! :laugh:
That has been a problem too , its very hard to get a race date confirmed. Sometimes you can get a date at short notice when something else cancels but that doesn't help trying to plan a big meeting.

ellipsis
26th August 2011, 19:52
...CAMS has been asked to apply for the permit for this event, sign the contract with the Car Club, supply Flaggies , Ambulance , Steward, COC, supply lunch, sign on competitors....the format of the day has not been discussed with us, but as always , we will be as ameniable as always....we have not had a meeting in a long while, where we have not got through four rounds and the flying, all in for so long , I find it hard to remember when....where is the 'only one race' bit, coming from...have not seen anyone leave our meetings in a long while that weren't raced out and rooted....a minimum amount of riders must sign on to make any meeting cover its costs...

gav
26th August 2011, 20:37
My understanding from the email sent out by Wallace as a CAMS committee member says that this meeting will be a regular CAMS meet with an extra bucket race during the lunch break. I'm sure you have seen it Neil.
CAMS will be hosting the Battle of the Buckets on 15 October. That means that while you are munching away on your lunch break, you can watch the F4's giving each other hell for 55 minutes.

All traditional CAMS sprint classes will be held as per race meeting.

Hope to see you there.

Cheers Wallace
The one race comment is meant to show the only difference between a regular CAMS meeting and the "Battle of the Buckets" will be the lunch time race. This has also been confirmed by Tony Mac ...
Maybe they know more than you, Neil?

ellipsis
26th August 2011, 20:53
...I can discuss it with the committee tomorrow, Gav, six of us will be in the same room at an MNZ seminar tomorrow...we may decide to cancel our permit application if you want....

gav
26th August 2011, 21:02
...I can discuss it with the committee tomorrow, Gav, six of us will be in the same room at an MNZ seminar tomorrow...we may decide to cancel our permit application if you want....
Huh? No need for that ... see my post #41 ... I'm supportive of you guys for stepping in, as I've already said. Just a shame the whole concept of the original Bucket meet has been shifted, thats all. Its certainly not a dig at CAMS, as I have said, CAMS always runs a great meeting ... sheesh .... :confused:

timg
26th August 2011, 21:12
Geez Gav, give us a break! The experienced guys from the previous committee had stepped back/stepped down. From what I understand nothing had been done to organize the BOB apart from book the track and post the date - I may be wrong but those folks were not at the meeting to share their knowledge. We're trying to get this thing going again. The new committee don't have the experience to do this alone, CAMS have stepped up which I think is a godsend. We'll get a good day's racing in as well as the 1 hour BOB. Instead of sniping at us, come along and give us hand :yes:

Buddha#81
26th August 2011, 23:12
Right all, I'm not for airing dirty laundry in public. I have just rung Waldo to get the lowdown to put some things to bed.

After talking to him the BOB will be no different than last year. We will get the same number of sprint races as the rest of the cams classes. The BOB will be a luchtime race as it was last year. The whole meeting will be on B track (the best bucket track in the country).

Wal and I breifly discussed the F4 GP and he is contacting MNZ on Monday to see what it will take to get it down here for the BOB, dont shoot him or me if it doesnt happen!

No one likes change and there will be some with the new thinking in the clubs committee. In the short term the BOB is going ahead in the same format as last year!

gav
26th August 2011, 23:36
Well, one of the main differences is the classes that will be running.
This is what has been advertised.
http://www.bmrc.co.nz/Special%20Events/Battle%20Of%20The%20Buckets.php

2011 Battle of the Buckets

** PRE ENTRY ONLY **

Saturday the 15th of October. Sign in will start at 7:40 and we aim to be on track at 9am

This event will also provide racing for Motards, Pre82/89, Streetstock.

We aim to have a minimum of 6 rounds for every class, so a lot of track time is available.

Buddha#81
27th August 2011, 00:01
Ys Gav the original advertised BOB has changed, different people have different ideas. The old committee (i was the vice pressy) are no longer in power. You had your chance to stand and make a difference. Hell you only have the bucket so the class changes dont effect you! If anyone is going to bleat it should be me, I own a motard! But knowing cams, turn up and they will find you somewhere to play! Dust ya golf clubs off mate! I wasn't comfortable with the changes but after talking to Waldo hes on our side. Ya be better to ring him and discuss your concerns rather than doing it here?

gav
27th August 2011, 00:26
Yeah, well I've said enough .... sorry if I have been out of line.

Probably won't be welcome at any more bucket races now, :confused:, oh well ...

Buddha#81
27th August 2011, 08:24
Yeah, well I've said enough .... sorry if I have been out of line.

Probably won't be welcome at any more bucket races now, :confused:, oh well ...

i wouldn't say out of line. like all, no one likes change, me included. I didnt like what i was hearing so i picked up the phone. I'm much happier now I have spoken to Waldo.

See ya at BOB big guy!

richban
27th August 2011, 14:04
Wal and I breifly discussed the F4 GP and he is contacting MNZ on Monday to see what it will take to get it down here for the BOB, dont shoot him or me if it doesnt happen!

I'll shoot you both if it does happen. Why not keep it as 2 separate events. Both are great in there own right. The GP is a different format with qualifying transponders etc. Are you proposing running BOB in this sort of format. I know that the GP is not on the calendar yet but I am sure it will happen in this racing season.

Keep them separate my 2 cents.

Str8 Jacket
27th August 2011, 14:19
It started to go downhill when you guys lost access to Wigram.....any of your committee Ngai Tahu ?

try getting a booking for a raceday on Ruapuna which isn't in the middle of winter...there are an awful lot of other people who want to use the place too.

I'm Ngai Tahu!

ellipsis
27th August 2011, 18:37
Yeah, well I've said enough .... sorry if I have been out of line.

Probably won't be welcome at any more bucket races now, :confused:, oh well ...

...not out of line Gav...just voicing your concerns...we have not spent more than 2 minutes discussing the BOB since we heard that our assistance was reqd...as its not advertised on our calendar as a CAMS meeting there is plenty of time to discuss the format of the meeting...I would be really keen to see you all get as much as you want or need...we are not going to hi-jack the BOB...we do need 75 + entries so as not to run at a loss...thats the black and the white of it..

Kickaha
27th August 2011, 18:40
.we do need 75 + entries so as not to run at a loss...thats the black and the white of it..

You should get half of that just with Buckets

ellipsis
27th August 2011, 18:56
...should all work out very cool...

Grumph
27th August 2011, 19:34
I'm Ngai Tahu!

Well, whether you knew it or not, you're a part owner of what was Wigram Air Force Base....and a bloody good circuit.
Your mission is to restore it to us.....

Str8 Jacket
27th August 2011, 20:47
Well, whether you knew it or not, you're a part owner of what was Wigram Air Force Base....and a bloody good circuit.
Your mission is to restore it to us.....

To be honest I just want a whale.....

Henk
27th August 2011, 23:17
To be honest I just want a whale.....

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Str8 Jacket again.

Grumph
28th August 2011, 16:42
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Str8 Jacket again.

To the best of my knowledge I haven't given him any....if he gets Wigram back I'll find a tin of Whalemeat.

Kickaha
28th August 2011, 17:35
To the best of my knowledge I haven't given him any....if he gets Wigram back I'll find a tin of Whalemeat.

him? he? Has Helz had a sex change?

Grumph
28th August 2011, 19:13
My apologies to the person of the female persuasion previously named....
Now the whale crack makes sense....

I'd suggest starting on Goldwings and working up though.

ellipsis
28th August 2011, 22:54
..Im not giving my goldwing to Ngai Tahu..but they can make me an offer...its negotiable..

Str8 Jacket
29th August 2011, 06:59
him? he? Has Helz had a sex change?

Sometimes I do wonder...... :laugh:

F5 Dave
5th September 2011, 12:38
Well, one of the main differences is the classes that will be running.
This is what has been advertised.
http://www.bmrc.co.nz/Special%20Events/Battle%20Of%20The%20Buckets.php

2011 Battle of the Buckets

** PRE ENTRY ONLY **

Saturday the 15th of October. Sign in will start at 7:40 and we aim to be on track at 9am

This event will also provide racing for Motards, Pre82/89, Streetstock.

We aim to have a minimum of 6 rounds for every class, so a lot of track time is available.

So just to get my head around this as I'm trying to get tickets sorted etc.

- There is just the one day & nothing happening on sunday as was traditional?

- If pre-entry only where are the forms? Not on BMRC website that I can see.

Yow Ling
5th September 2011, 19:18
there is Greymouth the following weekend

timg
5th September 2011, 22:11
Ok. Battle of the Buckets is definately on. The format will be similar to that of 2009 when the BOB was run in conjunction with a C.A.M.S. meeting. 246344 C.A.M.S. run a relaxed friendly meeting but Lachie and Neil still manage to push the races through so expect plenty of racing barring crashes and an enjoyable event :woohoo:.

I'm not sure the YLR team owner/manager is correct about the BEARs on Sunday. It's not on the Race Calander or the BEARs web site unles YL has some inside info? There is a South Canterbury MCC Car/Bike race day at Levels on the 16th. I don't know anything about those but maybe somebody else does?

However the Greymouth Street races are the following weekend and that is a great event for any of the Northerners to stay on for. If anybody needs a bed or bike storage just ask. I'm sure we can sort something. Cheers.

Yow Ling
6th September 2011, 06:06
I'm not sure the YLR team owner/manager is correct about the BEARs on Sunday. It's not on the Race Calander or the BEARs web site unles YL has some inside info? There is a South Canterbury MCC Car/Bike race day at Levels on the 16th. I don't know anything about those but maybe somebody else does?

However the Greymouth Street races are the following weekend and that is a great event for any of the Northerners to stay on for. If anybody needs a bed or bike storage just ask. I'm sure we can sort something. Cheers.

I probably am wrong, cant remember why I made that up, maybe it was just bait to get Dave here

F5 Dave
6th September 2011, 09:23
ok just one day is kind of expensive to come down for, 2 days makes it more worth-while. That being said last time the 2nd day was rained off anyway. Besides it makes it one less day the missus has to wrangle a 2yr & 9mth old in & out of baths & beds etc without help.

What time is it likely to wrap up for the day?


Just seen the poster. FFS its been done again with this $20 penalty for non Canterburians. :facepalm: I understand you want to make people join the local club, but it makes it highly offensive to out of towners.

Str8 Jacket
6th September 2011, 09:28
Just seen the poster. FFS its been done again with this $20 penalty for non Canterburians. :facepalm: I understand you want to make people join the local club, but it makes it highly offensive to out of towners.

That does seem a bit harsh!

Yow Ling
6th September 2011, 16:02
I think it should be discounted or free to northeners, but thats only my opinion.
CAMs do this to non members at Methven you have to pay an extra $30 to race there if you not a member so you may as well join for $30, they should run the IRD

F5 Dave
6th September 2011, 16:41
As I think I said last year imagine if people turned up to a road race in the North Island & they said 'oh yer from the sowth i-land, that'dil be another $20'.

ellipsis
6th September 2011, 18:09
...can someone put the poster up on here so the poor secretary knows what is actually planned for the BOB...like I said somewhere back down the track..we (CAMS) will bend over backwards to give you as much as you need...and what is the entry fee...and what is the extra that is being asked from some and.....and...

timg
6th September 2011, 18:48
...can someone put the poster up on here so the poor secretary knows what is actually planned for the BOB...like I said somewhere back down the track..we (CAMS) will bend over backwards to give you as much as you need...and what is the entry fee...and what is the extra that is being asked from some and.....and... Haha, its in post #68 and here it is again I hope. Same as you saw at Stewards training with SS added as you suggested :innocent: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=246344&d=1315216081

As for the $20 entry to the BOB race itself, there are costs BMRC will be picking up for the ambulance and flaggies etc for the hour of the BOB race which we need to cover while the regulars have their lunch etc. BMRC members basically only get the BOB in return for their $20 membership fee so in reality they have simply paid their entry in advance. I considered doing the F4 GP and if I recall correctly the cost per day was considerably more than what we pay for a days racing down here (lucky us :yes:) Still keen to get up there one day.

And yes Dave its a pity its not a weekend with a BEARs day on Sunday, but leave your bike here, grab a cheap $29 flight home and come back the following weekend for Greymouth ;)

Cheers

Yow Ling
6th September 2011, 19:04
Why not subsidise the Noth Islanders the $20, they have to pay several hundred to get here and pay for all the drinks etc.
If they get a bit cross on principle and decide not to come we still dont get the money. there are usually only half a dozen , surely that wont sink the club

Grumph
6th September 2011, 19:24
As I think I said last year imagine if people turned up to a road race in the North Island & they said 'oh yer from the sowth i-land, that'dil be another $20'.

Never tried to enter for the Pukekohe Classic festival I assume ?
It's a closed to club meeting - and the membership is around $120...
and It's a one - off expense for any SI riders going as there's zero chance of making another Register meeting in that year.
$20 doesn't look too bad does it ?

gav
6th September 2011, 19:57
As for the $20 entry to the BOB race itself, there are costs BMRC will be picking up for the ambulance and flaggies etc for the hour of the BOB race which we need to cover while the regulars have their lunch etc
Really? How much is this expected to be then? Don't we usually have our own flaggies? We are getting charged for the ambulance? :gob: errr, why?
Is there any lap scoring sorted to be in place?

Buckets4Me
6th September 2011, 20:00
$20 doesn't look too bad does it ?


this is buckets and $20 is my gass money for a year :facepalm:
no cheque book racing here :violin:

F5 Dave
6th September 2011, 22:46
Never tried to enter for the Pukekohe Classic festival I assume ?
It's a closed to club meeting - and the membership is around $120...
and It's a one - off expense for any SI riders going as there's zero chance of making another Register meeting in that year.
$20 doesn't look too bad does it ?
ok got me there, never tried to enter for Puke Classic,

- but I bet no one else outside of Auckland area did & told them to ram it up themselves:blink:

F5 Dave
6th September 2011, 22:54
. .
And yes Dave its a pity its not a weekend with a BEARs day on Sunday, but leave your bike here, grab a cheap $29 flight home and come back the following weekend for Greymouth ;)

Cheers
Yeah haven't seen any of those, maybe a $59 at best but they aren't usually any time near when you want them. + there's something on here that next weekend.

I used to be the most traveled Bucket racer doing Auckland 2hrs, then GPs & have done 4 or 5 BOBs & everywhere in between. These days with two very young kiddies my time is limited & Henk & Michelle seem to have taken over as the wanderers so the circle of life is continued in equilibrium.

Still haven't decided how to get there & when etc. Getting to be a ball ache.

Henk
6th September 2011, 23:48
I used to be the most traveled Bucket racer doing Auckland 2hrs, then GPs & have done 4 or 5 BOBs & everywhere in between. These days with two very young kiddies my time is limited & Henk & Michelle seem to have taken over as the wanderers so the circle of life is continued in equilibrium.

Still haven't decided how to get there & when etc. Getting to be a ball ache.

Ah, but we haven't made it to any south island races (yet). And don't have any young kiddies to consider. We are contemplating next year, but see how that goes (thinking of giving going to the MotoGP a miss and maybe finally going to Superbikes the following year instead). Only problem is I've not ridden the South Island (yet), so am keen to do so, so might have to do one bucket, one road bike, with one riding down (until we can dump the van somewhere to go two road bikes, and a barrel of fun). Henk's not keen on being pillion (go figure, I haven't managed to drop the bike with him on the back yet).

So Dave, you're still ahead of us. Your crown is safe for another year. ~ Dutchee (too lazy to log on as me).

Pumba
7th September 2011, 12:47
...............And don't have any young kiddies to consider. We are contemplating next year, but see how that goes..............

Reading between the lines

:dodge:

richban
7th September 2011, 20:25
Just did the quick maths on the trip and it isn't cheap.

500 bucks for the ferry gas and entry. Lucky the sponsor will be picking up the bar tab.

175 each way for the boat. That just seams fecken to much.

I don't have a problem with the entry fees at all. Just the bloody little gap of water we have to cross. Anyone got a jet ski with a trailer?

Pumba
7th September 2011, 20:28
175 each way for the boat. That just seams fecken to much.

Shit that seems a lot. Is that with the MNZ discount?

Yow Ling
7th September 2011, 20:40
Ill put $100 in the travel fund

richban
7th September 2011, 20:46
Shit that seems a lot. Is that with the MNZ discount?

No How do you cash that shit in?

Kickaha
7th September 2011, 20:47
No How do you cash that shit in?
http://www.mnz.co.nz/mnz_memberbenefits.aspx
page 4

richban
7th September 2011, 20:48
Ill put $100 in the travel fund

Dude. Very kind. I think a beer will do.

Yow Ling
7th September 2011, 20:59
http://www.mnz.co.nz/mnz_memberbenefits.aspx
page 4

Some of those offers expire in 09

Kickaha
7th September 2011, 21:20
Some of those offers expire in 09

Says on the top left of that page fares valid until Dec 2011

richban
7th September 2011, 22:33
Says on the top left of that page fares valid until Dec 2011



Well fuck me! Will will give that a go. Will keep you posted if it pans out.

gav
7th September 2011, 22:54
Do they still run a ferry sailing from Wellington to Lyttleton? Pacifica Shipping I think use to?

richban
7th September 2011, 23:03
Do they still run a ferry sailing from Wellington to Lyttleton? Pacifica Shipping I think use to?


Will do some home work. Not sure. Wonder how long that would take. Mid winter cruse anyone.

gav
7th September 2011, 23:18
Not sure if it still runs, use to be overnight. Drive on, sleep in your vehicle, and wake up at new port next morning.

richban
7th September 2011, 23:26
Not sure if it still runs, use to be overnight. Drive on, sleep in your vehicle, and wake up at new port next morning.

I have asked for a quote / info. Will let you know.

Yow Ling
8th September 2011, 06:07
Not sure if it still runs, use to be overnight. Drive on, sleep in your vehicle, and wake up at new port next morning.

Waking up in Lettlyton would be like waking up in Bosnia or Kandahar at the moment

F5 Dave
8th September 2011, 10:26
To make it less appealing the Kaitoke series now starts on the sunday. Would essentially mean missing that.

I still would like to do Ruapuna though,

richban
15th September 2011, 16:15
OK, have booked my ferry tickets. BOB here we come. Looks like F5 Dave and I are the only people coming from Wellington. See yah soon.

Buddha#81
15th September 2011, 16:43
OK, have booked my ferry tickets. BOB here we come. Looks like F5 Dave and I are the only people coming from Wellington. See yah soon.

good work....see ya here!!!!!

F5 Dave
15th September 2011, 17:33
I was just going to say "Its Officious" I mean official. Just booked my flights.

Its 'on' bitches!

erm is there an entry form yet? Pre entries I presume?

timg
15th September 2011, 19:02
OK, have booked my ferry tickets. BOB here we come. Looks like F5 Dave and I are the only people coming from Wellington. See yah soon. Awesome. See ya there! You sorted for somewhere to stay?

richban
15th September 2011, 19:26
You sorted for somewhere to stay? Yep all sorted thanks.

timg
15th September 2011, 19:36
I was just going to say "Its Officious" I mean official. Just booked my flights.

Its 'on' bitches!

erm is there an entry form yet? Pre entries I presume? No entry forms - entry on the day at sign in. Cheers.

Muzzab
5th October 2011, 16:08
Not long to go now, here's hoping the bikes hold together for the BoB and the Greymouth Street Races the following weekend. Ya-hoo can't wait.

Cheers
Muzza

richban
12th October 2011, 17:09
Van is packed and ready. Leaving tomorrow. See you on race day.:yes:

richban
12th October 2011, 17:15
Hey what time is sign on? Cheers

F5 Dave
12th October 2011, 17:18
Indeed, have a good trip mate, I've done that BOB drive a few times & its not too bad. Worst was the trip back full of what ifs in my head when my bike expired while in a comfortable lead with less than 10min to go combined with a FFF I'm going to miss the ferry!! Hmm, was a few years ago now. . .

See you down there.

Kendog
12th October 2011, 17:19
Van is packed and ready. Leaving tomorrow. See you on race day.:yes:
Good luck and kick some arse.

koba
12th October 2011, 18:11
Van is packed and ready. Leaving tomorrow. See you on race day.:yes:


Good luck and kick some arse.

Aye! Kick some arse, right in the teeth!

timg
12th October 2011, 19:53
Hey what time is sign on? Cheers 8 am Rich. See ya there :woohoo:

Buddha#81
14th October 2011, 12:56
Fark even the weather looks like its going to play ball, long range looked piss poor all week and Metservice has updated to cold but clear.......no snow this year Dave!

Clivoris
14th October 2011, 21:12
If someone can ask Rich to text Clive 027 6647254. He was going to pick up a bike for me at the track but Stu (mega bucket builder from Amberly) is a little crook and can't get it to the track. I need to see if Rich can pick it up on the way home or if someone can drop it to the track tomorrow. :drinkup:

gsxr
14th October 2011, 21:43
Have a few that want to come and view this event but they are all tight arses.
Anyone know what the admission cost is for spectators.Cheers

Kickaha
14th October 2011, 21:50
Anyone know what the admission cost is for spectators.Cheers

Absolutely nothing

You will need to go down the drag strip end as it is held on B Track

gsxr
14th October 2011, 21:58
Thanks for the info kickaha Ill try and get a bottle of bourbon outta them then.
Tight arses should pay .

ellipsis
15th October 2011, 15:41
...cool day, two minutes of light rain...sun came out...track was good..40ish buckets...unofficial results Hoogies 1 and 2, norf islanders 3 and 4, the other Hoogie 5...so I was told...about 15 or twenty bikes in other classes turned up so that the buckets didn't have to stay out all day...

timg
15th October 2011, 19:20
...cool day, two minutes of light rain...sun came out...track was good..40ish buckets...unofficial results Hoogies 1 and 2, norf islanders 3 and 4, the other Hoogie 5...so I was told...about 15 or twenty bikes in other classes turned up so that the buckets didn't have to stay out all day... Awesome day. Thanks Neil and Lachie for a well run day and heaps of racing. I'm absolutely tuckered out. A good bucket turn out, good racing and nobody in the ambo. Good to see the Hoogies ginger up the norfies for the F4 GP. Ya need to find more HP Rich. Good to meet you and Dave. Cheers.

Ghost_Bullet
15th October 2011, 19:34
Really enjoyed the day, even with not making the whole of the BOB feature due to equipment failure.

Heaps of good time on the track.

andrew a
15th October 2011, 19:43
Well done to you all. Richard got third with a crash in there. Dave got fourth. Good work guys. Congrads to the Hogie boys also.

SVboy
15th October 2011, 19:49
Good race! Well done to the northies coming down and doing their best. Better luck next year boys!![but big ups for the sacrifice to come down] Big thanks to CAMs for their support.

F5 Dave
15th October 2011, 19:52
Yeah was an awesome day. I really feel like a factory racer. I'm back in wgtn having flown in. Tired as though, we had a couple of beers & a pizza at the yalhurst & I was worried I'd fall asleep & miss my plane.

Thanks again Rich for taking my bike as things are difficult with such younguns & obviously to my lovely wife for suggesting I go.

I was really surprised how well my bike went on a long track. as I said somewhere it put out 16hp & was coughing & spluttering just past the dip, but it was nice to actually outpace some people rather that on the 50 where it is a mission.

Man I was sore by the end of the race. It went overtime by about 8 long mins. It took me a min to get off my bike & I had to walk back & forth the pits for a few min to get circulation, I was a bit worried I'd damaged myself, A chap at work did riding in his bro's leathers & the armour gave him nerve damage that lasted 6 months. All came right. Couldn't get back into things in the play races after thou.

Bad luck Rich for the fall. A few things different for him & it could well have been a 3 way battle for the race, but congrats for the 3rd.

Congrats for the Hoogies, they steamed past me, but I'll take 4th & be happy.

Next year some more neddies.

richban
17th October 2011, 08:32
Well back on the other island now. What a great event. Was great to catch up with everyone and put faces to names.

What can I say I am Mr third again. After the 2nd sprint race I was confident I could hang at the front but that wasn't to be when I out braked myself into the hair pin and had a little lie down. I got back up quick but found my gear lever end was gone. Stink. I was able to change gears and got back into the groove until the clutch gave up. I had to short shift and roll the throttle on really slow but still it just hit the limiter constantly.

The race was long. Half way through I had a little cry to myself when I started getting leg cramp. It went away thank god. Still had great day. Weather was sweet, people were great. Bring on next year. Congrats to Both the hoogie boys. Was fun racing with you again. Now I have more motivation to try and beat you 2 at the GP.

Top tip for the BOB. Get fit.

I have heaps of Footage to sort through so will try and get it edited as soon as pos. Both front and back views of the complete race. It gets boring after a while so I will just show the highlights. There are a few good ones. Bit of curb jumping and the little crash. Lots of dodgy passing. Good times.

F5 Dave
17th October 2011, 09:02
yeah yeah edit highlight package:Punk:

Muzzab
17th October 2011, 09:35
Yes a great day out, I hope the weather Gods are as kind for the Greymouth Street Races this weekend. I saved my cramps up for entertainment when having a beer at a mates place afterwards. I was stuffed by the end of the day. My 400 is less comfortable than my bucket and after the BoB I was having trouble changing gear on it. Eventually decided there was only so much fun you can have in one day and
called it a draw.

Well done CAMS for running a good event, cheers to the Northies for coming down.
Thanks to all the BMRC club guys for pulling it together. We should have a BoB a couple of times a year it's just a hoot.

Cheers
Muzza

F5 Dave
18th October 2011, 08:24
Had a quick sneak peak at Rich's rear facing camera footage. Pretty good, can't wait for hte forward facing stuff. Scary how quick the back markers in the vests shoot past in reverse:shit:. In reality some of those bikes were too slow if being lapped after 2 laps. I mean c'mon.

Buddha#81
18th October 2011, 09:25
Had a quick sneak peak at Rich's rear facing camera footage. Pretty good, can't wait for hte forward facing stuff. Scary how quick the back markers in the vests shoot past in reverse:shit:. In reality some of those bikes were too slow if being lapped after 2 laps. I mean c'mon.

I hear ya Dave, but without those extra guys the running costs go up and so do our entries.......chicken and the egg. At least they were there doing it and were happy to wear vests. I'd hope that wont be the case at the GP when there is a National title on the line!

Dutchee
18th October 2011, 09:33
as a slow rider, comments like that are one reason I'm seriously wondering whether to take my F4 bike to Taupo or not bother. I'll take the F5 bike down, but not convinced about the fxr, as I'd hate to ruin someone else's race because I'm being selfish and wanting to have fun.

Buddha#81
18th October 2011, 10:06
as a slow rider, comments like that are one reason I'm seriously wondering whether to take my F4 bike to Taupo or not bother. I'll take the F5 bike down, but not convinced about the fxr, as I'd hate to ruin someone else's race because I'm being selfish and wanting to have fun.

I'm not saying dont come (poorly worded sorry)........more along the lines of I hope they have qualifying so only NZ's best race in the GP......shit I probally wont make the cut :shit:

Muzzab
18th October 2011, 10:07
Looking forward to seeing the footage. Even though I'm slow, it's great fun to take part and have our races within the race and have the satisifaction of finishing.
I try my best to not get in anyones way and hold my line, but sometimes thats not possible when someone faster cuts you off mid corner. I still go on the theory that it's the overtaking riders responsibility to do so safely.

richban
18th October 2011, 10:15
I'd hope that wont be the case at the GP when there is a National title on the line!

Its a tricky situation. There is no clear answer. This happens in all classes but maybe more in buckets. It has been the same for years and the GP in no different. It is very dangerous for everyone involved and when you see the footage it does look a bit crazy but it is the overtaking riders responsibility. Its just the when you have lots of guys fighting for the lead it gets a bit hairy. If you were to run a qualifier then you run the risk of alienating people and no one wants that. Big blue fags waved with vigor. If we want these 2 events to become bigger BOB and the GP then there has to be a solution that suits as may people as possible. Not sure what that is but I am sure people on this site will have an opinion.

Buddha#81
18th October 2011, 10:26
yeah it is a hard one but end of the day its a National title, the BOB and other enduros are shits and giggles!

Muzzab
18th October 2011, 11:01
yeah it is a hard one but end of the day its a National title, the BOB and other enduros are shits and giggles!

Very good point. Is the blue flag used at National Events?
Not my thing though, quite happy to stay out of the way where there is a title rather than just bragging rights up for grabs. Would like to get up to Kaitoke one day, C grage of course :facepalm:

Cheers
Muzza

Henk
18th October 2011, 11:07
yeah it is a hard one but end of the day its a National title, the BOB and other enduros are shits and giggles!

There's a national title up for grabs here for maybe six people, for the rest it's just shits and giggles as per usual.

F5 Dave
18th October 2011, 11:26
Sorry didn't mean to start a fest. I spoke to one of the chaps on the YB100s after & he'd had a great time & good on him.

yes there are always going to be slower riders out there. That Yam 50 I passed I don't know how many times. On the larger track I have absolutely no problem with him & others going that sort of speed. You can plan your way through. Now sometimes that appears aggressive, but unless you know who you are racing you don't know how the passie will react. Often it is just fine, they are doing their thing & keep their own line, no drama. No one means to pass them hard, but if you have someone on your tail for a position you need to get past quickly. Many races have been won & lost with passing back markers.

Other times I've found people 'racing' you, blocking etc. At the BOB I was repassed by someone I'd lapped, maybe more than once. I had to push passed him to put him off the pace so I could make a break from him as my bike wasn't as fast as his, but he was slowing me up. meanwhile others were catching up with me. Another passed me again as I was trying to get passed others. Sheesh.

The above isn't really a whinge, just giving an insight to how it goes on a long race esp if your bike isn't that fast.- I tell you on the 50 it is even more of a battle. One streetrace I was battling for 2nd or 3rd place in an 'all in' race on my 50 & I got blocked by someone I was lapping & I couldn't get passed for the whole rest of the race. Other guy got through with power.


. . . Anyways. Slower riders aren't so much the problem I was referring to above. Slow slow bikes are. Some of those bikes could barely do 60 & if you are racing behind someone & they come upon one of these chaps & duck around them all of a sudden they appear in front of you virtually motionless. It is a bit dangerous. People could get hurt.

See what I mean about the really slow bikes? Looking at Riches vid made me remember there were some being lapped on the 2nd or 3rd lap. That is crazy slow, stuck in 3rd gear sort of stuff.

richban
18th October 2011, 15:56
Here is a little bit of footage. Clutch not doing so good at this point but I can see Dave up ahead so the abuse continues.

I'm waiting for my Bro to send me the files of the front view. Should be here tomorrow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US57UJ4K7Wg

hmurphy
18th October 2011, 16:23
It's the sound of your motor saying "You shouldn't have been so greedy! Why have you raped me so much? You've put your dirty hands inside me 1 too many times and now I'm broken." Maybe back off the HP... :shifty:

Nah that sucks man, must have been really disappointing after going all that way!!! Next time eh.

richban
18th October 2011, 16:55
Nah that sucks man, must have been really disappointing after going all that way!!! Next time eh.

Its all good, had a ball. It was only like that for half the race.

F5 Dave
18th October 2011, 17:03
and still fast enough even then to drag off us old slow guys

dangerous
18th October 2011, 17:09
as a slow rider, comments like that are one reason I'm seriously wondering whether to take my F4 bike to Taupo or not bother. I'll take the F5 bike down, but not convinced about the fxr, as I'd hate to ruin someone else's race because I'm being selfish and wanting to have fun.

Fuck man... "wanting to have fun" is what bucket racing is ment to be, its the one and only reason I got into it...

richban
18th October 2011, 17:16
and still fast enough even then to drag off us old slow guys

Just trying to keep up with the young skinny kids.

Dude I may look 39.99 but I am actually 40. How old is old and slow?

Bert
18th October 2011, 17:28
Here is a little bit of footage. Clutch not doing so good at this point but I can see Dave up ahead so the abuse continues.

I'm waiting for my Bro to send me the files of the front view. Should be here tomorrow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US57UJ4K7Wg

Love it....

though it sort of raises the question about A & B grade GP's like the old days; speed and skill differential (given the numbers now racing) should be considered.

Looks like a sh!t load of fun down there..

dangerous
18th October 2011, 17:36
Just trying to keep up with the young skinny kids.

Dude I may look 39.99 but I am actually 40. How old is old and slow?

You will get old, but you dont have to get slow :shifty:

Trudes
18th October 2011, 18:54
as a slow rider, comments like that are one reason I'm seriously wondering whether to take my F4 bike to Taupo or not bother. I'll take the F5 bike down, but not convinced about the fxr, as I'd hate to ruin someone else's race because I'm being selfish and wanting to have fun.
Agree with ya! It's not like we're not trying, just some of us don't learn as fast as others eh! I'm not trying to prove anything to anyone but myself or win any national titles, just want to keep my license by not riding about on the roads and have some fun.
One of the most memorable races I've been involved in was the BOB about 4 years ago when it snowed. Only time I lapped my hubby, both of us on stock standards, him on The Blu Poo aka Rangi before he became Rangi and me on Pamela (AX). BUT we both finished when greater racers did not. Pretty fuckin proud of that, AND fuck it was FUN!!!!!!!!

Love it....

though it sort of raises the question about A & B grade GP's like the old days; speed and skill differential (given the numbers now racing) should be considered.

Looks like a sh!t load of fun down there..
Now that's an idea I like a lot!!

Kickaha
18th October 2011, 19:10
AND fuck it was FUN!!!!!!!!
And cold wet and fucking miserable

Str8 Jacket
18th October 2011, 19:12
And cold wet and fucking miserable

Twas nice and warm in the hospital and the drugs were nice....mmmmm

Trudes
18th October 2011, 19:18
And cold wet and fucking miserable

Well true..... ;)
That day made me see the true benefit of keeping dry. Merino thermals and full rain suit, done! :)

dangerous
18th October 2011, 19:28
As Trudes says... was awesome even had my 1st and last arse up, people and socialising made it.

Kickaha
18th October 2011, 19:38
even had my 1st and last arse up

On a warm up lap, what a munter:facepalm:

Str8 Jacket
18th October 2011, 19:40
On a warm up lap, what a munter:facepalm:

Oi! That was the same warm up lap that I broke myself.... :facepalm:

dangerous
18th October 2011, 19:43
On a warm up lap, what a munter:facepalm:nananaaaaaaaaaaaaaa... was a full on race man, well for me it was :facepalm: I didnt see why I should head back to the pits with you softies just cos STJ parked her arse in the grass, shit reckon that was the fastest lap I ever did... well to the hair pin at least.


Oi! That was the same warm up lap that I broke myself.... :facepalm:

You on the warm up lap... me on the return cos you were hogging the ambo's but no fucker bothered to tell me that so I just seen the green drop so farked off I was racing the BOB :wings:

Clivoris
18th October 2011, 21:12
B3 Racing might have to make the effort next year.

GirrlRacer
18th October 2011, 21:55
B3 Racing might have to make the effort next year. might ?? you mean we do :)

F5 Dave
19th October 2011, 08:21
oh btw Trudes & Michelle, you two would have been dodging these guys every few laps as well.

Clivoris
19th October 2011, 08:48
oh btw Trudes & Michelle, you two would have been dodging these guys every few laps as well.

I'm always stoked to see people giving it a go and remember how hard it was to do that when the confidence and skill just wasn't there. It is a tricky thing to manage though. GirrlRacer wanted to give the recent Kaitoke "endurance" race a go, and I wasn't keen as she wasn't quite up to B grade pace. I was worried that she would get carved up (not maliciously) and have her confidence knocked. One month or so later and she would handle it fine in my opinion.
How do we give developing riders track time so they can get up to speed? Do the faster riders just have to tolerate it because what other people want is important too?

Trudes
19th October 2011, 09:47
I'm always stoked to see people giving it a go and remember how hard it was to do that when the confidence and skill just wasn't there. It is a tricky thing to manage though. GirrlRacer wanted to give the recent Kaitoke "endurance" race a go, and I wasn't keen as she wasn't quite up to B grade pace. I was worried that she would get carved up (not maliciously) and have her confidence knocked. One month or so later and she would handle it fine in my opinion.
How do we give developing riders track time so they can get up to speed? Do the faster riders just have to tolerate it because what other people want is important too?

Kendog and I were discussing this last night. B grade here in Welly (can't comment on elsewhere in the country) has gotten stupid fast compared to what it used to be, like when I started about 4 years ago, and must be pretty intimidating for new riders, kids and parents of kids who are learning, not to mention those of us who regularly get lapped in B grade just because we're slow. We were saying how nice it would be to be able to run a regular C grade here in Wellington for those just starting out, wanting to give it a go for the first time, and slow fucks like me. Might also be a way to actually do something towards the constant debate about "How do we get young riders interested in racing?" Just a thought.....

F5 Dave
19th October 2011, 10:46
I'm always stoked to see people giving it a go and remember how hard it was to do that when the confidence and skill just wasn't there. . .
Yeah my point is that no matter if the bikes are silly slow then new riders on the bikes are going to be crazy slow no matter what.



. . .
How do we give developing riders track time so they can get up to speed? Do the faster riders just have to tolerate it because what other people want is important too?
As above, I think its a point of safety on longer tracks when you can come upon (settle) someone with perhaps 90k diff. That could be a trifle dangerous. I won't make the obvious comparisons with issue in big bike meetings of a few years back.

dangerous
19th October 2011, 12:55
How do we give developing riders track time so they can get up to speed? Do the faster riders just have to tolerate it because what other people want is important too?YES... well IMO anyways. Ya see a "fast" rider should also be a curtious safe rider, another words ban the fast dangerous idiots NOT the learners or up n comers, as I have found thay are rearley an issue.

Henk
19th October 2011, 15:28
Kendog and I were discussing this last night. B grade here in Welly (can't comment on elsewhere in the country) has gotten stupid fast compared to what it used to be, like when I started about 4 years ago, and must be pretty intimidating for new riders, kids and parents of kids who are learning, not to mention those of us who regularly get lapped in B grade just because we're slow. We were saying how nice it would be to be able to run a regular C grade here in Wellington for those just starting out, wanting to give it a go for the first time, and slow fucks like me. Might also be a way to actually do something towards the constant debate about "How do we get young riders interested in racing?" Just a thought.....

Exactly why the majority of the kids (i.e. just turned 13 and getting on track for the first time) up here are driving an F5 revival, fewer people and the old hands aren't serious enough about it to cause them any grief. Not the nutterfest that the sharp end of the B grade has turned into up here as well.
I guess part of the issue is that with the bikes available now (mainly FXRs but also some CB125Ts that have been on the market recently) it's easy to turn close to A grade times without being a competent racer. The agression and speed are there but not neccesarily the skill, the step up to A grade gets even less polite and someone that is used to lapping slower riders can get a hell of a shock when someone levers open a gap with a crowbar. I know I sat up the first couple of times it happened to me, good thing nobody was going round the outside as well.

gav
20th October 2011, 20:34
I think part of the "problem" (if it is one) is that the BoB now seems to attract alot of once a year racers. And the pace has certainly moved on alot the last couple of seasons. Even Kickaha who was riding a warm FXR was saying how improved alot of the regular riders have become.
I dont think I have seen those YB guys turn up before, but yeah the speed difference at times was huge. Also after a while you had guys lapping others while getting lapped by others who were then getting passed by the leaders etc.
Those Hoogie boys took no prisoners when carving you up thats for sure, :shutup: but damn, best seat in the house watching them in action. :Punk:

timg
20th October 2011, 21:10
I think part of the "problem" (if it is one) is that the BoB now seems to attract alot of once a year racers. So getting rid of the once a year Kickaha.... :lol:

dangerous
21st October 2011, 07:20
So getting rid of the once a year Kickaha.... :lol:

hahaha... sorry Kick but that is kinda funny :facepalm:

Kickaha
21st October 2011, 17:25
hahaha... sorry Kick but that is kinda funny :facepalm:

At least I was there and racing

F5 Dave
22nd October 2011, 12:49
Well I'm still sore & I didn't fall off. dumb body armour is supposed to protect you, not injure you. Probably all happened in those last 8 over run min :violin:

Kickaha
22nd October 2011, 13:01
I think part of the "problem" (if it is one) is that the BoB now seems to attract alot of once a year racers. And the pace has certainly moved on alot the last couple of seasons. Even Kickaha who was riding a warm FXR was saying how improved alot of the regular riders have become.
I hadn't raced for 22months and guys I had been consistently beating I wasn't getting anywhere near them and was getting lapped by a few of them to

I think the standard of riding and level has gone up a few notches in the last year or so


I dont think I have seen those YB guys turn up before, but yeah the speed difference at times was huge.
While the speed differential was quite big It didn't cause me any problems, the orange vest made them easy to spot and they always held there line and didn't do any dumb shit

Although I did end up on the wrong side of the ripple strip through pothole going around one of them, nice smooth bit of concrete out there

F5 Dave
22nd October 2011, 13:05
The drama comes when you are racing someone & right behind them trying to find a way past. The front guy dodges to avoid a very slow bike & it appears in front of you virtually motionless.:shutup:

Kickaha
22nd October 2011, 13:11
The worst bit of the whole day for me was race 2 in the morning crash starting the bike jumping on and smashing my balls into the tank, I thought I was going to end up collapsing on the ground with the bike on top of me

Luckily there was a bit of a wait on the grid so I could whimper in my helmet until the pain subsided

dangerous
23rd October 2011, 15:13
I hadn't raced for 22months and guys I had been consistently beating I wasn't getting anywhere near them and was getting lapped by a few of them to

I think the standard of riding and level has gone up a few notches in the last year or so
Some ones getting OLD n slow :woohoo: