Check this shit out

[gixerracer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRz6HnKWnDA&feature=share

[RobGassit]

Brilliant.More please!

[Kickaha]

You could have just embedded it you muppet
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[superman]

Fuck look at that Kawasaki start! :yes:

[Kickaha]

Fuck look at that Kawasaki start! :yes:

Look at the muppet crash it a while later, Hi Pete:nya:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Fuck look at that Kawasaki start! :yes:


Look at the muppet crash it a while later, Hi Pete:nya:

I didn't cheat...honest! Shows you that the name I chose when I signed up here was pretty accurate! 1990 was a way back!

[Kickaha]

I didn't cheat...honest!

Was that one of the "homologation specials" you said about a while back?

[Mental Trousers]

Look at how many bikes are on the grid though. Even F3 doesn't get that many.

[superman]

I didn't cheat...honest! Shows you that the name I chose when I signed up here was pretty accurate! 1990 was a way back!

Good to get some visual history of a rider. Means your respect goes way up!!! I really want to get into some racing, need money for bike and track practice. :angry: Oh well... can stick with the road for now :yes:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Was that one of the "homologation specials" you said about a while back?

Yep. Just like wire wheel Katana's in the day. We did it properly by the then ACU's rules, and built 10 of them. But you'd be fucking hard pressed to find a 'stock' NSR, RGV or TZR amongst the front runners there either mate! When you're riding a fast bike (and make no mistake, the KR1SP's we made were fucking fast 250's), you soon know who's cheating and who isn't!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Look at how many bikes are on the grid though. Even F3 doesn't get that many.

It was fun being involved in road racing in those times! At the Auckland Street race circa 87/88? There were nearly 80 entrants in F2. We were split into two groups of 40. Unreal.


I really want to get into some racing, need money for bike and track practice. :angry: Oh well... can stick with the road for now :yes:

Do it. The track is the place to be if you want to go silly!

[Urano]

:drool:
aaaaarffffff.....
rgv Γ...
:drool:

[mikeey01]

Yes sir e Mike was a dam good rider and a dam fine mechanic to boot too.
thnx for that.. arr the memories

[eelracing]

Look at the muppet crash it a while later, Hi Pete:nya:

Haha you can hear it happen before you see it...good onya Pete.

Awesome to watch that footage,excellent find Gixxer.

[The Chow]

Haha you can hear it happen before you see it...good onya Pete.

Awesome to watch that footage,excellent find Gixxer.

Go to our website NZSBK and click on video and you will also find the 1990 Superbike race2 from Manfeild. Live Coverage at the time.

If you want to find more Vids sign up to our facebook page as we have more going on there to later.

[nodrog]

fuck thats like the olden days

[bistard]

I didn't cheat...honest! Shows you that the name I chose when I signed up here was pretty accurate! 1990 was a way back!

Fuck Man, did you jump the start or what!!, look at six bikes across the front row,awesome,those were the days
Great find Craig

[Crasherfromwayback]

Fuck Man, did you jump the start or what!!, look at six bikes across the front row,awesome,those were the days
Great find Craig

No. It's just that everyone else was asleep! :innocent:

Aye...40 odd 250 proddie bikes. That was always fun.

[TonyB]

Good find!
There's LOTS of talk in the commentary about the lead bike being faster in a straight line. It didn't seem to have much more outright top speed, but it did punch out of the corners well. It had a noticeably deeper pitch than the RGV's, but then maybe the NSR's did anyway?
So whats the skinny? Is anyone prepared to comment all these years later?:corn:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Good find!
There's LOTS of talk in the commentary about the lead bike being faster in a straight line. It didn't seem to have much more outright top speed, but it did punch out of the corners well. It had a noticeably deeper pitch than the RGV's, but then maybe the NSR's did anyway?
So whats the skinny? Is anyone prepared to comment all these years later?:corn:

I'm more than happy to comment, as I was actually there. Dave Coles bike was fast, but so were the bikes of Grant Rammage, Johnny Hepburn, Tony Sampson, Mike McCutcheon (sp?), Loren Poole's and later...Bruce Ainstey's. Mine was as fast as theirs but no faster. It had a trick CDI unit in it (the one Kawasaki NZ had imported for Simon Crafars KR1), and I ran it on AV gas and pre mix. Other than that...hand on heart...it was as we made all ten.

I'm sure there were other fast 'examples' in the field, but they were probably not getting ridden all that well so it didn't matter.

[Mental Trousers]

From watching that I'm guessing you taught Rach to ride mate :p

[Crasherfromwayback]

From watching that I'm guessing you taught Rach to ride mate :p

Hahaha...no, I've always told her to do what I say, not what I do!

[Kickaha]

From watching that I'm guessing you taught Rach to ride mate :p

What makes you say that? does she crash a lot? :whistle:

[Crasherfromwayback]

What makes you say that? does she crash a lot? :whistle:

Nah. It's my skeleton leathers. They're cursed I tell ya.

[Mental Trousers]

Hahaha...no, I've always told her to do what I say, not what I do!

... and how's that going for ya?? haha

[Crasherfromwayback]

... and how's that going for ya?? haha

A split lip here and there. The odd black eye. Quite well considering.

[Maido]

I thought it was bad form for the commentators to be bagging him about cheating, not the type of thing that would be publicised to the audience nowadays. especially how he got caught up to nearer the end.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I thought it was bad form for the commentators to be bagging him about cheating, not the type of thing that would be publicised to the audience nowadays. especially how he got caught up to nearer the end.

I agree. He was cheating no more than anyone back in the day. He just rode the thing really well. Dave Cole is much like Bruce Ainstey to race against. Mega mid corner speed, and smooth as.

[gixerracer]

I thought it was bad form for the commentators to be bagging him about cheating, not the type of thing that would be publicised to the audience nowadays. especially how he got caught up to nearer the end.

Yea was some of the worst commentating I have ever herd, they should have been going on alot more about the factory Suzuki boys man I could tell some stories haha
:shit:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yea was some of the worst commentating I have ever herd, they should have been going on alot more about the factory Suzuki boys man I could tell some stories haha
:shit:

Aye. Some of them RGV's certainly didn't sound or go like a stocker! Close ratio gearbox anyone?

[Cleve]

I thought it was bad form for the commentators to be bagging him about cheating, not the type of thing that would be publicised to the audience nowadays. especially how he got caught up to nearer the end.

I agree. Not good at all...
Still it was good to relive the glory days - as an occasional ex 250 proddy racer myself (TZR, RGV and NSR - sorry Crasher - never got to try the Kwaka stroker...)

[Crasherfromwayback]

I agree. Not good at all...
Still it was good to relive the glory days - as an occasional ex 250 proddy racer myself (TZR, RGV and NSR - sorry Crasher - never got to try the Kwaka stroker...)

They're all fun to ride regardless of the badge on the tank!

[superman]

They're all fun to ride regardless of the badge on the tank!

If you were starting these days what would you go for? Little 2 stroke 150 to ride in streetstocks? Or what would be the best class/bike to get into racing you reckon? I want to have something by summer!!! :innocent:

[Crasherfromwayback]

If you were starting these days what would you go for? Little 2 stroke 150 to ride in streetstocks? Or what would be the best class/bike to get into racing you reckon? I want to have something by summer!!! :innocent:

Either a 150 stroker or a 250 four stroke twin mate. Speak to Billy here, he's a GC that'll let you know what's the best option.

[wharfy]

Nah. It's my skeleton leathers. They're cursed I tell ya.

Ahh... the skeleton leathers. They are so cool !

[Crasherfromwayback]

Ahh... the skeleton leathers. They are so cool !

I wanted a set even before I went road racing. As soon as I saw Dave Aldana's set as a kid. They're looking pretty worse for wear now. I'm guessing they've been down the road well over 20 times. A tribute to Peter Gray's workmanship though. Best set I've ever owned. Pity he stopped making them.

[jasonu]

Good find!
There's LOTS of talk in the commentary about the lead bike being faster in a straight line. It didn't seem to have much more outright top speed, but it did punch out of the corners well. :

That Tony Palmer was a fucking dick that either made stuff up as he went along or incorrectly repeated what he had heard others, that knew what they were talking about, had said.
His last name is totally appropriate.

[roadracingoldfart]

I wanted a set even before I went road racing. As soon as I saw Dave Aldana's set as a kid. They're looking pretty worse for wear now. I'm guessing they've been down the road well over 20 times. A tribute to Peter Gray's workmanship though. Best set I've ever owned. Pity he stopped making them.


You should have had Pav's leathers and you could have flown away from all the crashes . I bet every bone on the leathers has a break in them somewhere lol

As for the bikes im hurt by your comments:blink: , they were all proddy bikes and i can tell you the part numbers of the 300cc piston kits :facepalm: to prove it :innocent: .

[roadracingoldfart]

Fuck Man, did you jump the start or what!!, look at six bikes across the front row,awesome,those were the days
Great find Craig


Hahaha PMCC used to get 12 or more across the front row of Taupo a few haircuts back.

[DCSME]

Here's the secret NSR setup, Change main jets from 128 to 124, back off oil pump cable, adjust power valve cables to open earlier. That let the engine rev to 12K without losing any midrange. Thats it. and of course a pair of The Chows yokohamas, (maybe 15 pairs).

From memory that race was broadcast live to air. My sponsor's were spewing the next day about Palmers comments. I think they even sought legal advice, to no avail.

Dave C

[RobGassit]

Here's the secret NSR setup, Change main jets from 128 to 124, back off oil pump cable, adjust power valve cables to open earlier. That let the engine rev to 12K without losing any midrange. Thats it. and of course a pair of The Chows yokohamas, (maybe 15 pairs).

From memory that race was broadcast live to air. My sponsor's were spewing the next day about Palmers comments. I think they even sought legal advice, to no avail.

Dave C

Just wanted to say we loved watching the 888 given some welly at Hampton Downs Dave. Sounds delicious.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Here's the secret NSR setup, Change main jets from 128 to 124, back off oil pump cable, adjust power valve cables to open earlier. That let the engine rev to 12K without losing any midrange. Thats it. and of course a pair of The Chows yokohamas, (maybe 15 pairs).

From memory that race was broadcast live to air. My sponsor's were spewing the next day about Palmers comments. I think they even sought legal advice, to no avail.

Dave C

You forgot one last ingredient Dave. Ride the ring piece off it.

And I'm not surprised your sponsors were spewing about the comments. They had every right to be.

Pete

[Billy]

Here's the secret NSR setup, Change main jets from 128 to 124, back off oil pump cable, adjust power valve cables to open earlier. That let the engine rev to 12K without losing any midrange. Thats it. and of course a pair of The Chows yokohamas, (maybe 15 pairs).

From memory that race was broadcast live to air. My sponsor's were spewing the next day about Palmers comments. I think they even sought legal advice, to no avail.

Dave C

Absolutely Dave,

Tony Palmer was legendary for putting his foot in his mouth,I notice he forgot too mention that Petes KR1SP was a model that was NZ specific and that Johnny,Grant and Slippery(Mike McCutcheon)were all on Suzuki NZ specials(wink wink,nudge nudge),Also I bought the Dave Cole NSR after he was done with it and I can assure everybody it was bog stock standard.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Absolutely Dave,

Tony Palmer was legendary for putting his foot in his mouth,I notice he forgot too mention that Petes KR1SP was a model that was NZ specific and that Johnny,Grant and Slippery(Mike McCutcheon)were all on Suzuki NZ specials(wink wink,nudge nudge),Also I bought the Dave Cole NSR after he was done with it and I can assure everybody it was bog stock standard.

Refer to post #42.

[Duke girl]

Pity we dont get big fields like that today as that was Awesome.
How times have changed when it comes to the safety of the starter/finisher and the marshalls....... standing so close to the edge of the track.
It's always good looking at old footage of the good old days with some of NZ's best Racers.

[Billy]

Refer to post #42.

Yip,Wasnt implying you were up to no good,Im well aware of some of the other specials that were produced,Some for the very place you work,It was more about the things Tony Palmer forgot too mention

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yip,Wasnt implying you were up to no good,Im well aware of some of the other specials that were produced,Some for the very place you work,It was more about the things Tony Palmer forgot too mention

Nah...wasn't saying you were mate. I'm just reiterating how well Dave rode the thing. Major ingredient #1! I have no problem admiting my KR1 was running on good gas/premix and had a diff CDI unit in it. The CDI unit was more of a hindrance than a help, as it made it even peakier. Loren Poole will attest to that. And I ran premix after having two siezures related to dicky oil pumps and wasn't prepared to throw another crank at the thing.

But Dave Cole won those races because Dave Cole was riding better than everyone else there at that time. Fair and square!!!

[TonyB]

But Dave Cole won those races because Dave Cole was riding better than everyone else there at that time. Fair and square!!! Agree. I've been beaten up by better riders punting bikes with half the power of the bike I was on. Doesn't matter how much power the bike has- the rider still has to have talent. He had to pick his way through a lot of lapped traffic without getting caught- that takes skill.