MotoGP - Le Mans

[boostin]

Interesting article on asymmetrical rear tyre compounds...

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2011/Bridgestone+preview+Le+Mans+GP

Who is going to win? Will Rossi get on the podium? Place your bets now!

[Matt Bleck]

Just to set the mood...... http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-racing-news-moto-gp/rossi-vs-stoner-the-battle-continues/17974.html

[pritch]

Just to set the mood...... http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-racing-news-moto-gp/rossi-vs-stoner-the-battle-continues/17974.html

That's all a bit overblown. I hope the racing is interesting enough without all the overexcited press articles.

Then again, this is a tad depressing:
http://www.motomatters.com/blog/2011/05/12/editor_s_blog_why_i_am_not_going_to_le_m.html

[yod]

Just to set the mood...... http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-racing-news-moto-gp/rossi-vs-stoner-the-battle-continues/17974.html

That's all a bit overblown. I hope the racing is interesting enough without all the overexcited press articles.

Then again, this is a tad depressing:
http://www.motomatters.com/blog/2011/05/12/editor_s_blog_why_i_am_not_going_to_le_m.html

Rossi completely takes Stoner out at Jerez then complains that Stoner "blocked his line" at Estoril!?

What a tosser.

[pritch]

Rossi completely takes Stoner out at Jerez then complains that Stoner "blocked his line" at Estoril!?

What a tosser.

Ummm he didn't complain. I can't read that particular link at work but this has been extensively reported. A "little bird" from the GP paddock told the Italian press about this "incident". When asked, Rossi basically told them it had happened but there was no problem.

Calling that a complaint is stretching things.

Here's hoping the racing is good enough so that the press don't have to manufacture stories.

[yod]

Ummm he didn't complain. I can't read that particular link at work but this has been extensively reported. A "little bird" from the GP paddock told the Italian press about this "incident". When asked, Rossi basically told them it had happened but there was no problem.

Calling that a complaint is stretching things.

Here's hoping the racing is good enough so that the press don't have to manufacture stories.

Ah ok, yeah, fair enough. The Italian press is known for it's love of "emotional embellishment". Especially where it's countrymen are concerned! :lol:

[Oscar]

Interesting article on asymmetrical rear tyre compounds...

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2011/Bridgestone+preview+Le+Mans+GP

Who is going to win? Will Rossi get on the podium? Place your bets now!

They've been using asymmetrical tyres at Daytona for years.
Can't remember who made them though...:scratch:

[Crasherfromwayback]

They've been using asymmetrical tyres at Daytona for years.
Can't remember who made them though...:scratch:

More than likely Dunlop

[rachprice]

Interesting what Rossi said about the current riders being boys not like the old 500 riders who were men!!
I don't really think of Rossi being part of that group of riders Rainey, Gardner, Doohan, (which it comes across that he does, though who knows with the media eh?) I have only just recently started watching so wasn't watching them at the time

[Crasherfromwayback]

Interesting what Rossi said about the current riders being boys not like the old 500 riders who were men!!
I don't really think of Rossi being part of that group of riders Rainey, Gardner, Doohan, (which it comes across that he does, though who knows with the media eh?) I have only just recently started watching so wasn't watching them at the time

I'm loving Lorenzo more all the time...

In fact, Thursday's press conference looked like being a gentle affair until Mike Scott fired one last question at Jorge Loernzo. Rossi's 'pussies' quote was aimed at him, wasn't it?

Looking nearly as stony as he did in his confrontation with Simoncelli at Estoril, Jorge snapped out "It must be a shame to be beaten by kids every race."

[rachprice]

I'm loving Lorenzo more all the time...

In fact, Thursday's press conference looked like being a gentle affair until Mike Scott fired one last question at Jorge Loernzo. Rossi's 'pussies' quote was aimed at him, wasn't it?

Looking nearly as stony as he did in his confrontation with Simoncelli at Estoril, Jorge snapped out "It must be a shame to be beaten by kids every race."

Haha that's awesome

[yod]

"It must be a shame to be beaten by kids every race."

:lol:
nice

[Brian d marge]

Just got a tweet from Toby Moody , and the students are striking everywhere in paris , police everywhere . Le mans nice and sunny all good , and he will try to answer a few of my questions ...Nic e man that he is

Stephen

[Crasherfromwayback]

Just got a tweet from Toby Moody , and the students are striking everywhere in paris , police everywhere . Le mans nice and sunny all good , and he will try to answer a few of my questions ...Nic e man that he is

Stephen

Ask him what Stoners wife is wearing!!!

[Brian d marge]

Ask him what Stoners wife is wearing!!!

He reply was its three in the morning ,,,,and to answer your question , nothing !

Im downloading the photos he sent !

Will post em as soon as I get a chance

Stephen

Here ya go...........

238825

[Crasherfromwayback]

Good man!!!

[MIXONE]

Ask him what Stoners wife is wearing!!!

I bet you watched the royal wedding didn't you?

[Brian d marge]

Moto2s skittling down the road. Oil on track. Merde... Sun out though. Going to be best day of the weekend.

Tweet from Moody

and from Julian Ryder

Stoner nearly a second quicker than the rest with 20mins of FP1 left

Stephen

[boostin]

MONSTER ENERGY GRAND PRIX DE FRANCE
MotoGP Free Practice Nr. 1 Classification 2011
Le Mans, Friday, May 13, 2011
Pos. Num. Rider Nation Team Bike Km/h Time Gap 1st/Prev.
1 27 Casey STONER AUS Repsol Honda Team Honda 285.8 1'34.133
2 26 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 271.2 1'34.431 0.298 / 0.298
3 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO ITA Repsol Honda Team Honda 279.9 1'34.808 0.675 / 0.377
4 58 Marco SIMONCELLI ITA San Carlo Honda Gresini Honda 276.4 1'35.029 0.896 / 0.221
5 1 Jorge LORENZO SPA Yamaha Factory Racing Yamaha 276.9 1'35.165 1.032 / 0.136
6 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Ducati Team Ducati 282.8 1'35.414 1.281 / 0.249
7 14 Randy DE PUNIET FRA Pramac Racing Team Ducati 277.4 1'35.687 1.554 / 0.273
8 69 Nicky HAYDEN USA Ducati Team Ducati 278.2 1'35.721 1.588 / 0.034
9 35 Cal CRUTCHLOW GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 283.5 1'35.731 1.598 / 0.010
10 11 Ben SPIES USA Yamaha Factory Racing Yamaha 286.1 1'35.743 1.610 / 0.012
11 5 Colin EDWARDS USA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 271.4 1'35.871 1.738 / 0.128
12 65 Loris CAPIROSSI ITA Pramac Racing Team Ducati 269.9 1'36.410 2.277 / 0.539
13 7 Hiroshi AOYAMA JPN San Carlo Honda Gresini Honda 280.5 1'36.448 2.315 / 0.038
14 19 Alvaro BAUTISTA SPA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP Suzuki 279.4 1'36.510 2.377 / 0.062
15 24 Toni ELIAS SPA LCR Honda MotoGP Honda 270.7 1'36.997 2.864 / 0.487
16 8 Hector BARBERA SPA Mapfre Aspar Team MotoGP Ducati 262.3 1'37.036 2.903 / 0.039
17 17 Karel ABRAHAM CZE Cardion AB Motoracing Ducati 279.6 1'37.154 3.021 / 0.118

MONSTER ENERGY GRAND PRIX DE FRANCE
MotoGP Free Practice Nr. 2 Classification 2011
Le Mans, Friday, May 13, 2011
Pos. Num. Rider Nation Team Bike Km/h Time Gap 1st/Prev.
1 27 Casey STONER AUS Repsol Honda Team Honda 288.5 1'33.782
2 58 Marco SIMONCELLI ITA San Carlo Honda Gresini Honda 282.9 1'34.186 0.404 / 0.404
3 26 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 272.8 1'34.478 0.696 / 0.292
4 69 Nicky HAYDEN USA Ducati Team Ducati 282.6 1'34.652 0.870 / 0.174
5 1 Jorge LORENZO SPA Yamaha Factory Racing Yamaha 277.5 1'34.659 0.877 / 0.007
6 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO ITA Repsol Honda Team Honda 282.1 1'34.705 0.923 / 0.046
7 5 Colin EDWARDS USA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 277.8 1'34.939 1.157 / 0.234
8 7 Hiroshi AOYAMA JPN San Carlo Honda Gresini Honda 286.6 1'34.959 1.177 / 0.020
9 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Ducati Team Ducati 285.5 1'34.966 1.184 / 0.007
10 11 Ben SPIES USA Yamaha Factory Racing Yamaha 288.9 1'34.976 1.194 / 0.010
11 14 Randy DE PUNIET FRA Pramac Racing Team Ducati 283.8 1'34.998 1.216 / 0.022
12 35 Cal CRUTCHLOW GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 287.8 1'35.158 1.376 / 0.160
13 65 Loris CAPIROSSI ITA Pramac Racing Team Ducati 279.4 1'35.383 1.601 / 0.225
14 8 Hector BARBERA SPA Mapfre Aspar Team MotoGP Ducati 276.4 1'35.902 2.120 / 0.519
15 19 Alvaro BAUTISTA SPA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP Suzuki 275.6 1'35.992 2.210 / 0.090
16 24 Toni ELIAS SPA LCR Honda MotoGP Honda 275.0 1'36.304 2.522 / 0.312
17 17 Karel ABRAHAM CZE Cardion AB Motoracing Ducati 278.7 1'36.327 2.545 / 0.023

[Crasherfromwayback]

The Honda riders seem to be worried about fuel consumption. What a shite rule that is.

[BMWST?]

go nicky!Presumably the tight circuit is a bit hard on the old mans shoulder!

[pritch]

The Honda riders seem to be worried about fuel consumption. What a shite rule that is.

So are you coming on side with the Rossi, Simoncelli weight concerns now?

Even Stoner wanted 24L instead of 21.

Nobody wants the 21L limit and although it's apparently there to mollify "green" concerns, that would seem to be a lost cause. Green politicians would be happy to ban such a frivolous use of a diminishing resource, 21L limit or no limit.

[Crasherfromwayback]

So are you coming on side with the Rossi, Simoncelli weight concerns now?

Even Stoner wanted 24L instead of 21.

Nobody wants the 21L limit and although it's apparently there to mollify "green" concerns, that would seem to be a lost cause. Green politicians would be happy to ban such a frivolous use of a diminishing resource, 21L limit or no limit.

Nope. Anytime riders want to emulate jockeys they can fuck off and be one. Stoner may well want 24L, but I haven't seen him bitch about the smaller guys. I've yet to see one of the bikes run out of fuel in a race either. I know the bike may have to lean out later in the race to get home...but apart from Pedrosa last year in a one off electronic fuck up, I haven't seen anyone lose a race because of it.

[Brian d marge]

From Toby moody

Just had VR46 chat. "We are still too far. No feeling on the front, understeer. I lose in the chicanes here. Rear shock stroke is too long."


Sorry about the font , when I cut and paste it goes funny

Stephen

[DidJit]

Looked like Vale was going alright in FP1... Nicky might be a bit of a dark horse come race day and challenge a little further up. FP3 & QP will be interesting! (Apart from Honda 1, 2, 3, 4...) Still good to see the Honda foursome in action though. Apparently, Lorenzo won't get any more ponies until at least (http://motomatters.com/analysis/2011/05/13/2011_motogp_le_mans_friday_round_up_norm.html) Barcelona.

[DidJit]

Julian Ryder's got some good notes (http://superbikeplanet.com/2011/May/110513rydernotes.htm) thus far as well.

[BMWST?]

dont forget qualifying on sky later tonight channel 30 23 45 replay tomorrow 16:30

[BMWST?]

1STONER C.Repsol Honda Team1:33.815
2SIMONCELLI M.San Carlo Honda Gresini+0.260
3DOVIZIOSO A.Repsol Honda Team+0.429
4PEDROSA D.Repsol Honda Team+0.730
5HAYDEN N.Ducati Team+1.139
6LORENZO J.Yamaha Factory Racing+1.236
7ROSSI V.Ducati Team+1.465
8EDWARDS C.Monster Yamaha Tech 3+1.466
9SPIES B.Yamaha Factory Racing+1.487
10CRUTCHLOW C.Monster Yamaha Tech 3+1.627
11AOYAMA H.San Carlo Honda Gresini+1.830

[Brian d marge]

Julian Ryder's got some good notes (http://superbikeplanet.com/2011/May/110513rydernotes.htm) thus far as well.
its true , you tweet he will answer . Im waiting to hear how they use the pits between classes ..

Stephen

[Brian d marge]

Some tweets from Neil Spalding

At Rossi press conference.. Determinately upbeat. But clearly not happy.. 'We are in trouble, but we have fixed some problems.'

Crutchelow gaining a lot of respect here, serious kudo's for his qually effort.

[denill]

poor Tony Elias. His front tyre is made of glass................... :facepalm:

[DidJit]

Julian Ryder (http://superbikeplanet.com/2011/May/110514rydernotes.htm) is on form again.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Casey Stoner articulated the view that it didn't seem right to go and hold something as trivial as a race when there were such massive problems still. Simoncelli seemed worried about whether radiation would make his hair drop out.

[Brian d marge]

poor Tony Elias. His front tyre is made of glass................... :facepalm:

+1 on that , I really feel for him....
Stephen

[eelracing]

poor Tony Elias. His front tyre is made of glass................... :facepalm:

Prob more of a reflection of what a season in Moto2 does for your riding.



]Julian Ryder[/URL] is on form again.

Simoncelli for the win...Stoner and Pedro to pick up the pieces.

[RobGassit]

Stoner,, Pedrosa and Simmoncelli and a punch up in the pits after the race is my pick..

[denill]

[QUOTE=eelracing;1130062841]Prob more of a reflection of what a season in Moto2 does for your riding.

But the poor bugger hadn't even tipped it into the corner.

What that must do for your confidence...................

[Crasherfromwayback]

Stoner,, Pedrosa and Simmoncelli and a punch up in the pits after the race is my pick..

Stoner (provided Simmoncelli doesn't punt him off when he goes down)

Pedrosa

Dovi

Lorenzo

Spies

Rossi's shoulder is still sore, and the bike is not right. Whaaaaaaa.

[eelracing]

Stoner (provided Simmoncelli doesn't punt him off when he goes down)

That is just Caseyfromwayback speak for "i'm shit scared that Casey's going to get owned today".:innocent:

[Crasherfromwayback]

That is just Caseyfromwayback speak for "i'm shit scared that Casey's going to get owned today".:innocent:

I'd be surprised. Like in Qatar, he's smoked everyone in every single session. Take rain or a fuckup for him to loose tonight I'd say. BUT...I will say it's only a matter of time before Simmoncelli wins one!

[eelracing]

I'd be surprised. Like in Qatar, he's smoked everyone in every single session. Take rain or a fuckup for him to loose tonight I'd say. BUT...I will say it's only a matter of time before Simmoncelli wins one!

Qualifying don't mean shit at Le Mans Pete...it's a scratchers track and while that should fall into Stoners hand,he's gotta look at the long game.Thats my take anyway.

[puddytat]

Anyone know of any live feeds.....me finally got broadband:woohoo:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Qualifying don't mean shit at Le Mans Pete...it's a scratchers track and while that should fall into Stoners hand,he's gotta look at the long game.Thats my take anyway.

Maybe. But it seems Stoner can do those times on either the soft or the hard tyre. That doesn't bode well for the others I'd say. This would be a perfect chance for him to get some really valuable points back on both Lorenzo and Pedrosa...and I bet he knows it.

[DidJit]

I think there may yet be a bit of a sub-plot developing amongst the HRC riders: they are all riding really really hard (Dovizioso's last lap in qualifying is a case in point) — I wonder if a bit of 'friendly' rivalry is emerging? Last year, there seemed to be a bit more of an established 'heirarchy' amongst the HRC riders; this year, with the addition of the phenomenally fast Stoner and Simoncelli challenging at the pointy end, Pedrosa and Dovi seem to be putting that much more effort in. Pure speculation on my part, of course, but interesting to see what, if anything, unfolds.

[RobGassit]

I think there may yet be a bit of a sub-plot developing amongst the HRC riders: they are all riding really really hard (Dovizioso's last lap in qualifying is a case in point) — I wonder if a bit of 'friendly' rivalry is emerging? Last year, there seemed to be a bit more of an established 'heirarchy' amongst the HRC riders; this year, with the addition of the phenomenally fast Stoner and Simoncelli challenging at the pointy end, Pedrosa and Dovi seem to be putting that much more effort in. Pure speculation on my part, of course, but interesting to see what, if anything, unfolds.

Thats because Danny and Dovi have done phark all with those factory bikes,,much like Hayden. Time to stump up or bugger off!!!

[eelracing]

This would be a perfect chance for him to get some really valuable points back on both Lorenzo and Pedrosa...and I bet he knows it.

And he will as long as he stays out of Simo's way:facepalm:



they are all riding really really hard (Dovizioso's last lap in qualifying is a case in point.

Had to hang onto Simmoncelli's arse by the skin of his teeth to set that time too by the way.

[Crasherfromwayback]

And he will as long as he stays out of Simo's way:facepalm:
.

If it wasn't for the fact that Stoner is going for the championship...I'd say he should punt that frizzy haired cunt into the kitty litter. The sooner someone shows him the dirt, the sooner he may calm down and become a real threat. Not just a threat!

[DidJit]

Had to hang onto Simmoncelli's arse by the skin of his teeth to set that time too by the way.

I noticed that too. To my novice eyes, though, it seemed like Dovi was a little faster into the corners and was gaining on Simo rather than being a strictly Barbera-like tow.

[eelracing]

I noticed that too. To my novice eyes, though, it seemed like Dovi was a little faster into the corners and was gaining on Simo rather than being a strictly Barbera-like tow.

No worries Didjit we're all novices when it comes to MotoGP speculating and your opinions as good as any mans.Does'nt change the fact that when a juicy race is on the cards (no rain please)we are all fans.

[DidJit]

... we are all fans.

True that!

[Brian d marge]

Prob more of a reflection of what a season in Moto2 does for your riding.


No tyres ,,, with the bridgestones , you need to get heat into them , apparently , he cant ....and hes going backwards

Stephen

[Cleve]

The latest from morning warm up. Stoner fined 5000 Euro's for punching DePuniet

[pritch]

The latest from morning warm up. Stoner fined 5000 Euro's for punching DePuniet

This is the guy that just a day ago told Simoncelli that he needs to calm down.
Earth to Casey....

Rossi may not have been silly keeping his hat on when he went to Stoner's garage to apologise after he had bowled the Australian.
Perhaps he knew something.

[Mental Trousers]

The latest from morning warm up. Stoner fined 5000 Euro's for punching DePuniet

About time he stopped with the whiney bitch thing and stepped up.

I'm loving Simoncelli cos he doesn't give a fuck. He's going to be a champ sometime in the not too distant future.

[Brian d marge]

1 hour ago from toby moody ....... This is all I know .......

Lorenzo's bike. If it cannons like that, it's blown it's guts out. It was running on it's side at 18k. KaBoom

Spoiler ? I dont know but now I REALLY want to watch the race !

Stephen

[hayd3n]

Stoner fined for warm-up clash
By Matt Beer Sunday, May 15th 2011, 10:04 GMT

Casey StonerFrench Grand Prix polesitter Casey Stoner has been fined 5,000 euros by the MotoGP officials for an on-track altercation with Randy de Puniet in this morning's warm-up.

Stoner, who was fastest in the session, was on a quick lap when de Puniet's slower-moving Pramac Ducati crossed into the Honda's path. As he overtake de Puniet, Stoner reached across and appeared to lash out at the Frenchman, who gesticulated angrily in reply.

The race directors immediately announced that the incident would be investigated, and chose to give Stoner the fine. De Puniet was not punished.

The eventful warm-up also saw Jorge Lorenzo's primary Yamaha severely damaged in an early high-side crash that ended with the bike on fire.

[Ivan]

Stoner needs to calm down

[DidJit]

What a race!

[eelracing]

What a race!

Haha it was brilliant...spices it up nicely.

[Mort]

yeah... good race

[Ivan]

yeah wasnt bad at all

[Kendog]

Great race to watch.

[Crasherfromwayback]

This is the guy that just a day ago told Simoncelli that he needs to calm down.
Earth to Casey....

Rossi may not have been silly keeping his hat on when he went to Stoner's garage to apologise after he had bowled the Australian.
Perhaps he knew something.


About time he stopped with the whiney bitch thing and stepped up.

I'm loving Simoncelli cos he doesn't give a fuck. He's going to be a champ sometime in the not too distant future.


Stoner needs to calm down


What a race!

You Stoner haters are funny. He gives De Puniet a tap on the arm and all of a sudden he's a murderer. Rossi really deserved that podium too. NOT.

[DidJit]

Stirrer. :lol:

[Crasherfromwayback]

By the way, funny how it's ok to slam into the side of your team mate and pick the bike up mid corner to force him off the track(Montegi last year), but what Simmoncelli did was not fair??? Obviously two sets of rules.

Valentino Rossi, Ducati Team


”For me, I think this time, Simoncelli was too hard, maybe it was a bit too aggressive, as Dani had no room to make anything. I think it’s also a mistake because at that part of the race Simoncelli arrive strong so maybe instead of overtaking Dani under braking, he could overtake him on the next lap.”

Odd when he makes tough passes it's all ok, and "just racing". I think Simmoncelli was well ripped off, and I'm no great fan. Although I'm fast becoming one.

[Matt Bleck]

By the way, funny how it's ok to slam into the side of your team mate and pick the bike up mid corner to force him off the track(Montegi last year), but what Simmoncelli did was not fair??? Obviously two sets of rules.

Valentino Rossi, Ducati Team


”For me, I think this time, Simoncelli was too hard, maybe it was a bit too aggressive, as Dani had no room to make anything. I think it’s also a mistake because at that part of the race Simoncelli arrive strong so maybe instead of overtaking Dani under braking, he could overtake him on the next lap.”

Odd when he makes tough passes it's all ok, and "just racing". I think Simmoncelli was well ripped off, and I'm no great fan. Although I'm fast becoming one.

fark off, Dani had on where to go! And the only reason ya thought Sic was ripped off is cause it put Vale on the podium!! :laugh: :violin:

[Crasherfromwayback]

fark off, Dani had on where to go! And the only reason ya thought Sic was ripped off is cause it put Vale on the podium!! :laugh: :violin:

Get a new set of eyes. And I couldn't care less if 'Vale' got a podium. Being 14.5 seconds behined Stoner, on the very bike Stoner used to win races on must really hurt.

[Oscar]

Get a new set of eyes. And I couldn't care less if 'Vale' got a podium. Being 14.5 seconds behined Stoner, on the very bike Stoner used to win races on must really hurt.

After four outings?
A bit harsh perhaps?

[Matt Bleck]

Get a new set of eyes. And I couldn't care less if 'Vale' got a podium. Being 14.5 seconds behined Stoner, on the very bike Stoner used to win races on must really hurt.

Take ya blinkers off! If he'd done the same to Casey you'd be fizzing at the bung hole!

Prolly not as much as getting beatin by kids! :facepalm:

[Crasherfromwayback]

After four outings?
A bit harsh perhaps?

Same amount of 'outings' Stoner has had on the Honda I guess??? For the record...I always thought the rules stated that if you pass someone off the track it's deemed an illegal move and you should have to do a ride through penalty? But according to Rossi..." That's racing". Yet he thinks Simmoncelli is rough?? Two sets of rules anyone???

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[Crasherfromwayback]

Take ya blinkers off! If he'd done the same to Casey you'd be fizzing at the bung hole!



You guys are funny. You think I love Stoner the person. It's Stoner the racer I love. Same as I loved Eddie Lawson, Mick Doohan, and all the other racers that were a level above the rest. The Rossi lovers all love Rossi the person. If you're to be honest, he has his own sets of rules, and is getting his arse handed to him on a plate on a bike that Stoner made look good. Truth hurts though I know.:bleh:

[Matt Bleck]

You guys are funny. You think I love Stoner the person. It's Stoner the racer I love. Same as I loved Eddie Lawson, Mick Doohan, and all the other racers that were a level above the rest. The Rossi lovers all love Rossi the person. If you're to be honest, he has his own sets of rules, and is getting his arse handed to him on a plate on a bike that Stoner made look good. Truth hurts though I know.:bleh:

You guys? :wari:

Spies better watch out for the pom!

[Crasherfromwayback]

You guys? :wari:

Spies better watch out for the pom!

Spies is this years biggest disappointment. I thought he was gonna make the step up.

[Crasherfromwayback]

How come Lorenzo didn't get a ride through for his 2nd lap pass on Dovi? Not that I think he should...but by the same standards Simmoncelli got one...

[brads]

Rossi's a knob...wank wank my shoulder:weep: is sore...wank wank cant get the bike right:tugger::...wank wank...that was a rough move by super sic:innocent:.....its going to be a long 2 years for rossi and ducati :yes:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Rossi's a knob...wank wank my shoulder:weep: is sore...wank wank cant get the bike right:tugger::...wank wank...that was a rough move by super sic:innocent:.....its going to be a long 2 years for rossi and ducati :yes:

Be careful mate. The Rossi fan club will freak. Rossi & Ducati is the 'Dream team' alright. Pity the dream is nightmare. A multi million Euro Stoner advert.

[Mental Trousers]

About time he stopped with the whiney bitch thing and stepped up.

I'm loving Simoncelli cos he doesn't give a fuck. He's going to be a champ sometime in the not too distant future.

You Stoner haters are funny. He gives De Puniet a tap on the arm and all of a sudden he's a murderer. Rossi really deserved that podium too. NOT.

If someones not a dreamy eyed fan boi they're a hater??

Must say, that collision between Simoncelli and Pedrossa was a bit harsh. Up until that point I was liking Simoncelli. Will have to see what the bun fight afterwards is like.

So it seems you're a Rossi hater then Crasher??

[Mental Trousers]

How come Lorenzo didn't get a ride through for his 2nd lap pass on Dovi? Not that I think he should...but by the same standards Simmoncelli got one...

They banged fairings, nobody fell off. Seemed like a tough pass but there was nothing wrong with it. I've had that done to me and I didn't think it was worth a penalty for the other rider.

[Punchy]

Sic just comes across as such a dick, even though it was a 'racing accident' I just can't help but blame him. Also, bet Lorenzo is running around screaming "I told you so!"

[Ivan]

You Stoner haters are funny. He gives De Puniet a tap on the arm and all of a sudden he's a murderer. Rossi really deserved that podium too. NOT.

Im not a stoner hater, Im just saying he needs to calm down hes a skilled rider I give him that Im saying his behaviour needs to calm down and go back to the Stoner we all knew,

And I dont care a tap on the arm or a punch is unacceptable hitting someone is hitting someone right or wrong hes a professional he should know better than that,

I know if I gave someone a hit at the racetrack id be looking at loosing my MNZ licence

[Ivan]

I think the Simoncelli incident was abit hard to call yes he was in the wrong, Nut in the heat of the momment I guess we can make mistakes not justfying what he did as I think that was abit overboard.

But he did do his ride through penalty took that and also when they showed him afterwards he looked absolutly gutted about what he had done,

I think the guys a great rider hes just having a bad run he was an awsome 250 racer,

I laugh though at Lorenzo he states motogp is not a contact sport and people should stop barging each other than does it to Dovi like its allgood his pass could have ended in the same result to Dovi but wasnt an illegal move

[Crasherfromwayback]

If someones not a dreamy eyed fan boi they're a hater??

Must say, that collision between Simoncelli and Pedrossa was a bit harsh. Up until that point I was liking Simoncelli. Will have to see what the bun fight afterwards is like.

So it seems you're a Rossi hater then Crasher??

Not at all. The 'collision' between Simoncelli and Pedrosa, now that I've watched it a few times, I think could've been avoided by Pedrosa. Almost looks like he freaked and picked the bike up and ran into Simoncelli.

And me, a Rossi hater? Never. I've said more than too often he's one of the greatest racers ever. But I can appreciate that Stoner is faster than he is, and for that he's one of my favorite racers of all time. You do know Stoner has won more races in the 800cc era than Rossi don't you?


They banged fairings, nobody fell off. Seemed like a tough pass but there was nothing wrong with it. I've had that done to me and I didn't think it was worth a penalty for the other rider.

I don't think he should've been penalized either. Just like I don't think Rossi should've been in Jerez (yes I know he wasn't).

By last nights standard though...Rossi should've been for punting Gibernau into the kitty litter on the final corner/last lap a few years ago though!


I laugh though at Lorenzo he states motogp is not a contact sport and people should stop barging each other than does it to Dovi like its allgood his pass could have ended in the same result to Dovi but wasnt an illegal move

Yeah. Hypocrite. The example he used at the last round was a crock of shit too. It was Lorenzo that rode into the side of Simoncelli at Valencia and nearly binned it. It was just as harsh this week on Dovi. It's all good if you're gonna dish it out, but you've gotta be able to take it back. Eh Rossi?!

[Mental Trousers]

Not at all. The 'collision' between Simoncelli and Pedrosa, now that I've watched it a few times, I think could've been avoided by Pedrosa. Almost looks like he freaked and picked the bike up and ran into Simoncelli.

Yeah I think it should just be put down as a racing incident. I've watched it a few times and I get the feeling Pedrossa could've gotten on the brakes harder and let Simoncelli have it, but maybe his shoulder is still playing up and he couldn't stop quick enough.


And me, a Rossi hater? Never. I've said more than too often he's one of the greatest racers ever. But I can appreciate that Stoner is faster than he is, and for that he's one of my favorite racers of all time. You do know Stoner has won more races in the 800cc era than Rossi don't you?

Rossi is a much more complete racer than Stoner is. There's no doubt that Stoner is a much faster rider than Rossi. But so is Lorenzo. However neither of them are as well rounded as racers as Rossi is. Neither of them can develop a bike the way Rossi can. They don't do the head games anywhere near as well and other stuff that makes a complete racer.

I'm not a Stoner hater btw, but there isn't really anyone that I favour over all others in MotoGP. More like there's a group of riders that I tend to like alot more than the rest.



By last nights standard though...Rossi should've been for punting Gibernau into the kitty litter on the final corner/last lap a few years ago though!

I reckon any incident between two riders where one ends up in the dirt should be looked at with a view to penalizing someone. A complete accident (like Moto2 qualifying where Axel Pons went down, slid 50m then took out Bradley Smith for example) is just life, but if two riders are contesting a patch of tarmac and one ends up in the dirt, that's a different story.

Having said that the Simoncelli/Pedrossa incident is probably one that could be a 50/50 call and the Le Mans officials called a penalty. Difficult to say if it was the correct or incorrect decision.

[SPman]

If it wasn't for the fact that Stoner is going for the championship...I'd say he should punt that frizzy haired cunt into the kitty litter. The sooner someone shows him the dirt, the sooner he may calm down and become a real threat. Not just a threat! Hmmmmm.........will losing 2nd make him think a little more strategically.. - it's good to see a wild man on the track, but.......
I bet Rossi was stoked beating Lorenzo..and...points are points, Rossi will take any he can get any way, any how, atm.
Pity about Dani...he had just come back to form - a broken collar bone is going to slow him down again...
Say what you like about Stoner being a whiny little shit (my missus does....all the time), but he's poetry in motion on that bike when he's really got his head down and going for it!

[denill]

<a href=http://moto-racing.speedtv.com/article/motogp-noyes-notebook-butler-roadracing-is-a-contact-sport-pt-ii-rossi/P1>Paul Butler:</A> :facepalm:

[denill]

Yeah. Hypocrite. The example he used at the last round was a crock of shit too. It was Lorenzo that rode into the side of Simoncelli at Valencia and nearly binned it. It was just as harsh this week on Dovi. It's all good if you're gonna dish it out, but you've gotta be able to take it back. Eh Rossi?!

It's all part of the 'Mind Game'. And it works. eg: The stuff that went down previously made Simo's ride thru a certainty...............

[Mental Trousers]

Say what you like about Stoner being a whiny little shit (my missus does....all the time), but he's poetry in motion on that bike when he's really got his head down and going for it!

No doubt about that. His first year in MotoGP on the Honda I thought the guy was farken awesome even though he kept losing the front on it.

He's a lot like a supermodel - amazing to watch but then he opens his mouth and sound comes out .... :facepalm:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeah I think it should just be put down as a racing incident. I've watched it a few times and I get the feeling Pedrossa could've gotten on the brakes harder and let Simoncelli have it, but maybe his shoulder is still playing up and he couldn't stop quick enough.

Rossi is a much more complete racer than Stoner is.

.

Won't get an argument out of me on those statements! No matter how long he stays in Moto GP, I doubt Stoner will ever win 7 titles.



. - it's good to see a wild man on the track, but.......


Pity about Dani...he had just come back to form - a broken collar bone is going to slow him down again...

Say what you like about Stoner being a whiny little shit (my missus does....all the time), but he's poetry in motion on that bike when he's really got his head down and going for it!

I agree. But I'd hate to be anywhere near the fucker!

A real shame about Pedrosa's collar bone, as it was gonna be a great Honda team mate battle.

And I (obviously) agree. I've never seen anyone ride as aggressively at such pace as the little guy.


>Paul Butler:</A> :facepalm:

Rossi can do no wrong!

[rachprice]

Amazing race!!!!

Disappointed in stoner for hitting de puniet

Was so good though!

[bogan]

Some good racing there, pity about the incidents, and damn shame about pedrosa's injury, was looking like a good season for him. Rossi seems to be getting the hang of the duc though, potential for some great races this season :yes:

[Mental Trousers]

Some good racing there, pity about the incidents, and damn shame about pedrosa's injury, was looking like a good season for him. Rossi seems to be getting the hang of the duc though, potential for some great races this season :yes:

I had Pedrossa pinned as my #2 pick for wearing the Champions hat at the end of the year. That's been shot to shit now though :(

That 3rd position had a lot of luck involved in it. But people make their own luck and Rossi was in the best position to benefit from the things that happened out of anyone.

[Matt Bleck]

Amazing race!!!!

Disappointed in stoner for hitting de puniet

Was so good though!

What? He didn't hit him in the face tho!

[rachprice]

What? He didn't hit him in the face tho!

Ah as much as we want to do these things, have a little self control!!!
It was only warm up!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Disappointed in stoner for hitting de puniet



Only because you wanna see him nakid! Was fucking stooopid of Depuniet moving over like that though. Hold ya line and let the fucker coming through go round you.

Bloody hard for Stoner to do that safely if you don't know which way the dopey cunt is gonna go next.

[rachprice]

Only because you wanna see him nakid! Was fucking stooopid of Depuniet moving over like that though. Hold ya line and let the fucker coming through go round you.

Bloody hard for Stoner to do that safely if you don't know which way the dopey cunt is gonna go next.

Nah would prefer to see his wife naked

It was but it didn't really deserve a punch! Not even a tap! A punch!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Nah would prefer to see his wife naked

It was but it didn't really deserve a punch! Not even a tap! A punch!

Me too. Yeah, heat of the moment stuff though. You come up on someone at 100mph, they're doing 20mph and then swerve in front of you. Could've fucking killed him if he'd rammed him. Pretty easy to lose your cool with a move like that.

[slowpoke]

WTF?! For all those who think Pedrosa could have done anything to avoid the crash "You're farkin' dreamin'!" He had the line, he had the thing on it's ear, and you expect him to heave on the anchors mid-corner? How do you say "L O W S I D E"?

Simoncelli is just stupid....fast, but stupid. He raced with his ego engaged instead of his brain (again) and went out determined to prove people wrong after the last few races. He could have played it smart and stalked Pedrosa for a few laps but rushed it and ended up fucking over a rider in the team who supply him bikes, and proved everybody right instead.

Rossi didn't deserve the podium? He gave Sic a lesson in how to handle yourself on the track, scrapping cleanly with Dovi and settling for the lesser position rather doing a banzai...and passed the current World Champion on the way, not a bad days work.

Stoner was just awesome though and Lorenzo will be shitting bricks, especially after being passed by Rossi (who will only get stronger as the season goes on).

[Crasherfromwayback]

WTF?! For all those who think Pedrosa could have done anything to avoid the crash "You're farkin' dreamin'!" He had the line, he had the thing on it's ear, and you expect him to heave on the anchors mid-corner? How do you say "L O W S I D E"?

Rossi didn't deserve the podium? He gave Sic a lesson in how to handle yourself on the track, scrapping cleanly with Dovi and settling for the lesser position rather doing a banzai...and passed the current World Champion on the way, not a bad days work.

.

How many times have you watched it? As I've said, almost looks like Pedrosa picked the thing up. I tend to think if he'd simple held his line he would've made it through the corner safely. And I certainly didn't say he should've heave on the anchors mid corner!

And come on...how many times has Rossi been less than sporting?

[Crasherfromwayback]

WTF?! For all those who think Pedrosa could have done anything to avoid the crash "You're farkin' dreamin'!" He had the line, he had the thing on it's ear, and you expect him to heave on the anchors mid-corner? How do you say "L O W S I D E"?
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Have another look...

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[wharfy]

I guess you have all heard the saying, "Lies, damn lies and statistics !"

Just for fun check out

http://www.motogp.com/en/Results+Statistics/Statistics/statsearch

Heres a mildly interesting one - Harley Davidson have won more constructors titles than Ducati :)

1st place finishes in MotoGP / 500cc at all tracks in all seasons, for riders from NEW ZEALAND.
Times Rider Rider from
1 Crafar, Simon NEW ZEALAND
1 Newcombe, Kim NEW ZEALAND
1 Ireland, Dennis NEW ZEALAND


And of course who has won the MOST "1st division" races

1st place finishes in MotoGP / 500cc at all tracks in all seasons, for riders from all countries.
Times Rider Rider from
79 Rossi, Valentino ITALY
68 Agostini, Giacomo ITALY
54 Doohan, Mick AUSTRALIA
37 Hailwood, Mike GREAT BRITAIN
31 Lawson, Eddie UNITED STATES

[Crasherfromwayback]

And of course who has won the MOST "1st division" races

1st place finishes in MotoGP / 500cc at all tracks in all seasons, for riders from all countries.
Times Rider Rider from
79 Rossi, Valentino ITALY
68 Agostini, Giacomo ITALY
54 Doohan, Mick AUSTRALIA
37 Hailwood, Mike GREAT BRITAIN
31 Lawson, Eddie UNITED STATES



Tricky one that. They didn't have 18 rounds per season back then. But still...how many more do you think Rossi will win? Even though I doubt he ever will, it'd be kinda nice to see the old coot reach 100 race wins! He's been so good for the sport, it would be fitting.

[Oscar]

I guess you have all heard the saying, "Lies, damn lies and statistics !"

Just for fun check out

http://www.motogp.com/en/Results+Statistics/Statistics/statsearch

Heres a mildly interesting one - Harley Davidson have won more constructors titles than Ducati :)

1st place finishes in MotoGP / 500cc at all tracks in all seasons, for riders from NEW ZEALAND.
Times Rider Rider from
1 Crafar, Simon NEW ZEALAND
1 Newcombe, Kim NEW ZEALAND
1 Ireland, Dennis NEW ZEALAND


And of course who has won the MOST "1st division" races

1st place finishes in MotoGP / 500cc at all tracks in all seasons, for riders from all countries.
Times Rider Rider from
79 Rossi, Valentino ITALY
68 Agostini, Giacomo ITALY
54 Doohan, Mick AUSTRALIA
37 Hailwood, Mike GREAT BRITAIN
31 Lawson, Eddie UNITED STATES



Very interesting (and better than the Stoner v. Rossi wankfest...)


How about:

Results for: 2nd place finishes in all classes at all tracks in all seasons, for riders from NEW ZEALAND.
Times Rider Rider from
12 Anderson, Hugh NEW ZEALAND
9 Molloy, Ginger NEW ZEALAND
4 Coleman, Rod NEW ZEALAND
4 Crosby, Graeme NEW ZEALAND
3 Turner, Keith NEW ZEALAND
1 Newcombe, Kim NEW ZEALAND
1 Crafar, Simon NEW ZEALAND
1 Hempleman, John NEW ZEALAND

[wharfy]

How many times have you watched it? As I've said, almost looks like Pedrosa picked the thing up. I tend to think if he'd simple held his line he would've made it through the corner safely. And I certainly didn't say he should've heave on the anchors mid corner!


I have to say thats what it looks like to me - and most of my crashes have been because I panicked !



And come on...how many times has Rossi been less than sporting?

Well never obviously :)

[Crasherfromwayback]

I have to say thats what it looks like to me - and most of my crashes have been because I panicked !



Well never obviously :)

When you give someone a nudge, it's REALLY common for them to stand the thing up. Very rare that they'll tuck the thing under.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Very interesting (and better than the Stoner v. Rossi wankfest...)




Yeah...wouldn't expect you to like that one anymore Oscar.

[Ivan]

I look at it as Simo didnt intentionally do it he didnt shove it up the inside he just let the brakes go and carried imense corner speed ok he did cut in across Danni but like people have said Danni stood it up watch it in slow mo and then drives into the rear of Simos bike not his fault he shit himself but yeah

[Crasherfromwayback]

Danni stood it up watch it in slow mo and then drives into the rear of Simos bike not his fault he shit himself but yeah

Pedrosa also ran across some bumps on the way in that unsettled the bike. That didn't help either.

[Oscar]

Yeah...wouldn't expect you to like that one anymore Oscar.

It do get a wee bit boring.


Anyway, the interesting thing here is the swift action of Race Control.
I think it's got to do with the impending retirement of Paul Butler - he doesn't have to play politics anymore and he wants to show 'em who's boss...

[puddytat]

Well it looks to me that Simo's seat clips Dani's bar....& either way he had no where to go. Stupid move.
What about Marques in Moto 2? Fantastic ride & on the top step after only 4 rounds:gob:
Armchair expert that I am:yes:

[Crasherfromwayback]

It do get a wee bit boring.


Anyway, the interesting thing here is the swift action of Race Control.
I think it's got to do with the impending retirement of Paul Butler - he doesn't have to play politics anymore and he wants to show 'em who's boss...

Sorry Oscar, was only seeing if I could get a wee bite! But I do agree with you. I'm over it myself.

I really think Simoncelli was hard done by in that particular instance. I stand by my original thought, that Pedrosa freaked and picked the bike up, when he could've avoided it.

[merv]

Instead of pissing around hanging his left foot off the peg going into the corner Dani should have got his right boot out and kicked the prick out of the way as he went by.

As for Stoner's punch, that'd be right up there with KBers that go on about whacking the mirror of an errant cage that gets in their way so he'd fit right in here.

[k14]

Sorry Oscar, was only seeing if I could get a wee bite! But I do agree with you. I'm over it myself.

I really think Simoncelli was hard done by in that particular instance. I stand by my original thought, that Pedrosa freaked to picked the bike up, when he could've avoided it.
Yeah I just watched the race and I agree. My first thought was he took him out but on the replay (and it is still hard to 100% see) I reckon it was a racing incident. Simoncelli outbraked Pedrosa and either Pedrosa went into the corner too hot and would have taken out Simoncelli if he kept on the line or he panicked. Either way it sucks for both of them. Pedro with another broken collarbone (remember that injury pretty much ended Gibernau's career) and Simo lost a podium.

[pritch]

As for Stoner's punch, that'd be right up there with KBers that go on about whacking the mirror of an errant cage that gets in their way so he'd fit right in here.

Bugga! I thought that must've been the KB wave. Or was that the one that DePuniet gave Stoner immediately after the bitch slap?

[scracha]

I look at it as Simo didnt intentionally do it he didnt shove it up the inside he just let the brakes go and carried imense corner speed ok he did cut in across Danni but like people have said Danni stood it up watch it in slow mo and then drives into the rear of Simos bike not his fault he shit himself but yeah



Am I the only person that thinks Simo's pass on Dovi was pretty stupid and indeed, gifted Pedrossa 3rd? Thinking back to Portugal last year, I reckon the Dovizioso vs Simoncelli show will be the most entertaining this year.

Simo biffs a lot of people last year, notably Dovi at Portugal.
Quatar GP Simo biffs Dovi.
Estoril GP Simo gets a bollocking (http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2011/Estoril+QP+press+conference+Lorenzo+Simoncelli) from Lorenzo..
Le Mans GP Simo spectacularly biffs Pedrosa off his bike.
There's aggressive, and there's dangerous. Time the lad had a forced break for a race.

As for Stoners "punch". The little tw@t wouldn't front up to Rossi nor De Puniet in the pits for a proper fight.

[Brett]

Simoncelli should really have known better, he was riding such a good ride and I have been wanting him to get a good podium spot for ages now and he threw is away by being too aggressive and causes another of my fav's to go out with a broken collar bone. Not happy, but hey, that is racing. Hope pedrosa can get back and sorted asap.

[gixerracer]

Simo biffs a lot of people last year, notably Dovi at Portugal.
Quatar GP Simo biffs Dovi.
Estoril GP Simo gets a bollocking (http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2011/Estoril+QP+press+conference+Lorenzo+Simoncelli) from Lorenzo..
Le Mans GP Simo spectacularly biffs Pedrosa off his bike.
There's aggressive, and there's dangerous. Time the lad had a forced break for a race.

As for Stoners "punch". The little tw@t wouldn't front up to Rossi nor De Puniet in the pits for a proper fight.

STONER IS KING ALL OTHERS ARE JUST PRETENDERS :yes:

[eelracing]

Simo is the best thing to happen to MotoGP since Rossi.

Dani got sucked into a fight he was always going to lose and he should have known better.How sad,never mind.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Le Mans GP Simo spectacularly biffs Pedrosa off his bike.
There's aggressive, and there's dangerous. Time the lad had a forced break for a race.

.

Get your eyes checked. The biff wouldn't have happened if Pedrosa hadn't freaked and picked the bike up. He ran into Simoncelli in case you didn't see it.


Simo is the best thing to happen to MotoGP since Rossi.

Dani got sucked into a fight he was always going to lose and he should have known better.How sad,never mind.

I wanna see what happens when he gives Rossi the hurry up. Bet they won't be friends anymore!

[eelracing]

I wanna see what happens when he gives Rossi the hurry up. Bet they won't be friends anymore!

The beauty of it is that there is plenty of time for it to happen.Rossi looks like he's finally getting his head around the Duke and if they can find a little more motor to stay with the Honda's (and it's a big if)this season won't be a total Stoner walkover.

Gotta mention that Vinales ride in the 125's was the highlight of the meeting for me and the kid was as cool as a cucumber.
Marquez is finally where he should be too,surprised it took so long.

[Quickrik]

regardless of whos at fault (Pedrosa) why can't race result just be race results, without race control getting involved over anything that isn't considered "gentlemens racing"?

[scracha]

Get your eyes checked. The biff wouldn't have happened if Pedrosa hadn't freaked and picked the bike up. He ran into Simoncelli in case you didn't see it.


I saw it more as, "I'll park my bike in front of Pedrosa leaving him with nowhere to go".
Another stupid and pointless move from Simo.

DOVI for the title this year.

[Crasherfromwayback]

The beauty of it is that there is plenty of time for it to happen.Rossi looks like he's finally getting his head around the Duke and if they can find a little more motor to stay with the Honda's (and it's a big if)this season won't be a total Stoner walkover.
.


I agree. With Rossi amongst it, it'll be real fireworks!


I saw it more as, "I'll park my bike in front of Pedrosa leaving him with nowhere to go".
Another stupid and pointless move from Simo.

DOVI for the title this year.

Think you saw it wrong then.

And Dovi for the title? Now I know you're smoking crack!

[vinducati]

Great Race.

Stoner is a great rider, but I am no fan. Just to much of a prat for my liking and sorry the wife is not that hot.

Rossi, 9 times World Champion, enough said.

Simo - best thing in a long time. He is aggressive and does probably need to settle a bit but he is damn cool. I like aggressive racing.
I am sorry that Dani got hurt but I wondered before it happened whether he thought it was a good idea to try and pass Simo right away, Simo, given his style was always going to fight him hard. Racing incident, ride thru way over the top.

In summary - if i was off for a beer be good to drink with Rossi and Simo, but Stoner can stay home. Just a bit to whinney for me.


Cheers

[jim.cox]

but Stoner can stay home. Just a bit to whinny for me.

Bit like that Charlie Boorman chap - gets right on my wick

(or maybe I'm just jealous?)

[Crasherfromwayback]

I'm a little surprised to see what Rossi said about it. I would've thought "that's just racing" would once again come from his mouth...

Marco Simoncelli


“For me I haven’t done anything incorrect, so for me this is a race ‘action’ (incident). I saw in the video that his bike was hopping a little bit and he lost the line, he touched me, when I saw he couldn’t make the corner I picked the bike up but it was too late. He touched me on the back and he crashed. For me the punishment from Race Direction was because of all the controversy of the last few days, and from Estoril. For me if the same thing happened without me they would penalise nobody. This is my point of view.”

Valentino Rossi, Ducati Team


”For me, I think this time, Simoncelli was too hard, maybe it was a bit too aggressive, as Dani had no room to make anything. I think it’s also a mistake because at that part of the race Simoncelli arrive strong so maybe instead of overtaking Dani under braking, he could overtake him on the next lap.”

I prefer this

Nicky Hayden, Ducati Team


”I’ve had one look at it so I didn’t really get to slow it down and watch it a couple of times, so I’m not really sure. It’s between them two, they don’t need me to weigh in on it as I’m sure everyone will have an opinion on it. Two guys racing hard, things can happen, there’s been a lot of drama this weekend, a lot of arm waving and this and that.”

[vinducati]

This guys seems to know a thing or to!

http://www.cyclenews.com/articles/road-racing/2011/05/16/wayne-s-world-the-pass/


Cheers

[Crasherfromwayback]

This guys seems to know a thing or to!

http://www.cyclenews.com/articles/road-racing/2011/05/16/wayne-s-world-the-pass/


Cheers

I wonder how many times he's watched a slow mo replay of the incident?

I definately agree with his Spies comments.

[Brian d marge]

I prefer the Simmo ,, ( sorry about pedrosas shoulder ,,, ) and I know the top fellas said it was a hard move ....but ...lil old me , still want the simmos ...

as a NZ commentator once said , " bring on the Biff"

Stephen

[Crasherfromwayback]

This guys seems to know a thing or to!
Cheers

Same guy that wanted to ban the IOM right?


I prefer the Simmo ,, ( sorry about pedrosas shoulder ,,, ) and I know the top fellas said it was a hard move ....but ...lil old me , still want the simmos ...

as a NZ commentator once said , " bring on the Biff"

Stephen

Plus one from me.

[quickbuck]

as a NZ commentator once said , " bring on the Biff"

Stephen
Clint Brown wasn't it?

[eelracing]

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[k14]

How about the 125 race! That kid that won will be a motogp champion in the future, you can see it already!

[Biggles08]

I think MotoGP should enforce the 'Bringing the sport into disrepute, code of conduct' law and call up simoncelli the day before the weekend of the next race and tell him hes banned for 6 months cause he was on parole and he's history.

:jerry:

[RobGassit]

I think MotoGP should enforce the 'Bringing the sport into disrepute, code of conduct' law and call up simoncelli the day before the weekend of the next race and tell him hes banned for 6 months cause he was on parole and he's history.

:jerry:
I'd miss him. I can't wait to see what he's gonna do next. Rubbins racing. It's not lawn bowls after all. I think you are fishing for a bite biggles..

[yod]

Gotta mention that Vinales ride in the 125's was the highlight of the meeting for me and the kid was as cool as a cucumber.


How about the 125 race! That kid that won will be a motogp champion in the future, you can see it already!

fuckin aye! sneaking it up the inside in the last corner to do Terol like a dinner, that was smoooooth

[RobGassit]

How about the 125 race! That kid that won will be a motogp champion in the future, you can see it already!

He played Terol all race. Sneaky little devious shit.. I like him.. He will be one to watch for sure.:yes:

[Crasherfromwayback]

They should leave them like this all season. I think it looks so much better than the blue.

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[theblackbandit]

They should leave them like this all season. I think it looks so much better than the blue.

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couldn't agree more.
or bring back the yellow-black colour scheme maybe...

[imdying]

Interesting what Rossi said about the current riders being boys not like the old 500 riders who were men!!He is just winding up the other aliens as they weren't around then, so can't comment based on a position of experience. More head games is all, even that gangly monkey isn't stupid enough to believe that.

[imdying]

I think MotoGP should enforce the 'Bringing the sport into disrepute, code of conduct' law and call up simoncelli the day before the weekend of the next race and tell him hes banned for 6 months cause he was on parole and he's history.

:jerry:So long as they do Stoner as well. Simoncelli's incident looked bad from some angles but not others... Stoner, no matter how you saw it, he was still an unprofessional little git.

[Crasherfromwayback]

He is just winding up the other aliens as they weren't around then, so can't comment based on a position of experience. More head games is all, even that gangly monkey isn't stupid enough to believe that.

Yeah I can imagine this lil fellow would've been great on a 500 two stroke...239196

[imdying]

Rossi is just having a panic attack, after all, all these 'boys' are showing him the way round the track... Hell even Dovi beat him.

[Crasherfromwayback]

So long as they do Stoner as well. Simoncelli's incident looked bad from some angles but not others... Stoner, no matter how you saw it, he was still an unprofessional little git.

I'd rather they fined Simoncelli like they did Stoner if they had to do something. Making the fucker do a ride through was bullshit. Yes I think Stoner deserved the fine.

[imdying]

Not making Stoner start from pit lane was bullshit. He needs to learn, and if that's the hard way, so be it.

[wharfy]

bring back the yellow-black colour scheme ...

My favourite, I'm a bit of fan of Kenny :)

Nostalgia ain't what it used to be ...

[Ivan]

I think MotoGP should enforce the 'Bringing the sport into disrepute, code of conduct' law and call up simoncelli the day before the weekend of the next race and tell him hes banned for 6 months cause he was on parole and he's history.

:jerry:

Im guessing this is a piss take to a Nationals incident

[BMWST?]

How many times have you watched it? As I've said, almost looks like Pedrosa picked the thing up. I tend to think if he'd simple held his line he would've made it through the corner safely. And I certainly didn't say he should've heave on the anchors mid corner!

And come on...how many times has Rossi been less than sporting?

i think we overestimate what pedrosa could have done,he was on the tight line i bet he had the anchors for all they were worth trying to get the thing slowed, for the turn and the drive,he sees simo coming across his bows and thinks shit he is gonna hit me,stands it up to get on the brakes real hard......

[eelracing]

(remember that injury pretty much ended Gibernau's career)

Did it tho? or was it...


But still...how many more do you think Rossi will win? Even though I doubt he ever will,the old coot

If Stoner really wanted to fuck with Rossi's head (not that he needs to)he could do no worse than what Rossi did to Gibernau when he said Sete would never win another GP. Or would that awake a sleeping dragon? Tora! Tora! Tora!

[eelracing]

i think we overestimate what pedrosa could have done,he was on the tight line i bet he had the anchors for all they were worth trying to get the thing slowed, for the turn and the drive,he sees simo coming across his bows and thinks shit he is gonna hit me,stands it up to get on the brakes real hard......

Yeh but Dani did not need to put himself in that situation in the first place.If he had'nt of he would be leading the championship now.I reckon it was he who had the brain explosion.Simo was always going to fight back hard.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeh but Dani did not need to put himself in that situation in the first place.If he had'nt of he would be leading the championship now.I reckon it was he who had the brain explosion.Simo was always going to fight back hard.

Here's how Revvin Kevin saw it...

At that point, Dani's options are, "I've screwed up. Do I really want to take Marco out? If I do, I've got to get back on the gas, and I've just got to sacrifice us both." Instead, Dani did what was right, and didn't do that ... stayed off the gas, ended up falling and has now got a broken collarbone. But my thought process ... and I read somewhere a quote that Valentino said that Marco's maybe taken this a little bit too far, and that was too physical a move. Well, he said he thought Marco should've followed Dani. I say Marco just passed Dani, and I think Dani should follow Marco. I don't like to see motorcycles coming together and guys falling down, because nine times out of ten it's a no-win situation for both guys. Fortunately for Marco, there was enough run-off on the outside of the track in that corner, and he was able to run to the outside of the pavement, over through the gravel, and get back on the track. Obviously, the officiating crew there with the FIM decided that maybe that deserved a penalty. The move, the contact, whatever it might've been, and that's what Marco got. I'm not sure that that was the right call, but that's the call that I guess we all have to live with. I texted Marco a couple of times. He said he didn't think he deserved it, much like I told him I didn't think he deserved it. But he said, "Lorenzo is World Champ right now. He's been making a lot of stink about my riding. I guess they listen to his voice a little bit more than they listen to mine," is the way Marco put it

[Crasherfromwayback]

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/May/110518iksa.htm

[brads]

Here's how Revvin Kevin saw it...

At that point, Dani's options are, "I've screwed up. Do I really want to take Marco out? If I do, I've got to get back on the gas, and I've just got to sacrifice us both." Instead, Dani did what was right, and didn't do that ... stayed off the gas, ended up falling and has now got a broken collarbone. But my thought process ... and I read somewhere a quote that Valentino said that Marco's maybe taken this a little bit too far, and that was too physical a move. Well, he said he thought Marco should've followed Dani. I say Marco just passed Dani, and I think Dani should follow Marco. I don't like to see motorcycles coming together and guys falling down, because nine times out of ten it's a no-win situation for both guys. Fortunately for Marco, there was enough run-off on the outside of the track in that corner, and he was able to run to the outside of the pavement, over through the gravel, and get back on the track. Obviously, the officiating crew there with the FIM decided that maybe that deserved a penalty. The move, the contact, whatever it might've been, and that's what Marco got. I'm not sure that that was the right call, but that's the call that I guess we all have to live with. I texted Marco a couple of times. He said he didn't think he deserved it, much like I told him I didn't think he deserved it. But he said, "Lorenzo is World Champ right now. He's been making a lot of stink about my riding. I guess they listen to his voice a little bit more than they listen to mine," is the way Marco put it


Well if thats what Kev said.....this topic is now over...cant argue with the Master :yes:
Rossi's a knob.

[DidJit]

Here's the whole article (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/May/11051734x34=lemans.htm).

[Crasherfromwayback]

Here's the whole article (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/May/11051734x34=lemans.htm).

Interesting how two world champs can see it differently eh!

[DidJit]

Interesting how two world champs can see it differently eh!

Best of three (http://waynegardnerapproved.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=62&Itemid=511)? ;)

[Crasherfromwayback]

Best of three (http://waynegardnerapproved.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=62&Itemid=511)? ;)

Nah...I was comparing Kevins to Waynes!

[DidJit]

Nah...I was comparing Kevins to Waynes!

Whoops — my bad. :doh:

[sosman]

Not making Stoner start from pit lane was bullshit. He needs to learn, and if that's the hard way, so be it.

Kiss off mate!...Randy Depuniverse needs the learn for moving into the path which was 50 x more dangerous then a little iddy biddy jab!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Kiss off mate!...Randy Depuniverse needs the learn for moving into the path which was 50 x more dangerous then a little iddy biddy jab!

Have to agree with you. He saw Stoner coming, then moved over in front of the fucker. Shit like that can get someone seriously maimed or killed. A lil tap on the arm can't!

[imdying]

A professional doesn't strike another competitor. That's for drunken louts and amateurs. That's the sort of second rate shite I would expect to see at a NZ race meeting, not the MotoGP.

He an Bradley Smith should have started from the back or not at all.

[Crasherfromwayback]

A professional doesn't strike another competitor. That's for drunken louts and amateurs. That's the sort of second rate shite I would expect to see at a NZ race meeting, not the MotoGP.

He an Bradley Smith should have started from the back or not at all.

I'd hardly call a thump on the arm 'striking' a fellow competitor. Smashing him in the face yes. I could be wrong, but I don't think you've done a whole lot of road racing?

When some clown (especially one that should know better) does something really idiotic that could've well killed you, it's fucking easy on the spot to lose your rag. Pretty sure I've seen posts from you saying you'd smash someone for sitting on your bike in the past? Pretty minor offence compared to a fucking stupid move that could've killed you I'd say. There's a lot at stake for Stoner (another world championship in fact), and he's already been skittled once this season by a fuckhead type move...so I can fully understand him being a bit scratchy towards such stupidity.

[imdying]

so I can fully understand him being a bit scratchy towards such stupidity.As can I, but given that the only thing that appears to be able to stop him from winning another championship is himself, you would think he would be smarter enough to keep that factor under control.

Regardless, he is being paid as a professional, he should conduct himself like one. That's not to say that any of them will always do that, but when they don't, there should be a penalty large enough to dissuade it happening again. Just because you're the current golden boy, that shouldn't give you leeway to act like a twat.

If he fucks it up for himself (by say getting a ride through, start from the back, whatever) and loses by the amount of points his fuck up costs him, it'll be a bloody sad day.

I heard the commentators talking about people stooging around looking for a tow, and getting in the way of bikes cutting down fast laps, which obviously frustrates (and in this case fair scares the shit out of) other riders. Fine, do something about that by all means, especially if it is dangerous, but it is a separate issue. The issue here is a lack of professionalism, and a lack of sportsmanship.

I know he's not currently leading, but this championship is his to lose... he needs a kick up the arse to remind him that he'll need a cool head to put this season to bed. He can bash all the stupid/dangerous French wankers all he likes in the off sesason, once the title is his. Currently he's losing to that second rate Rossi wannabe, he's not in the position to be able to afford to make stupid decisions in the heat of the moment.

[imdying]

Pretty sure I've seen posts from you saying you'd smash someone for sitting on your bike in the past?Trolling on the internet is hardly an indicator of what happens in real life. The only time I've found somebody on my bike was some stupid foreign git with his child at local round of the NZSBK. I asked him nicely, didn't make much of a scene, and that was that. True if it were some scrote that actually damaged it via the callous use of a boot when climbing on it, I might scone them full in the face with a helmet, but I'm not exactly trigger happy.

(of course my mate who came charging down off the embankment didn't leave this guy in any doubt about what would happen next time, but I only came for the racing so left them to it)

[Crasherfromwayback]

(of course my mate who came charging down off the embankment didn't leave this guy in any doubt about what would happen next time, but I only came for the racing so left them to it)

Bet there poor fuckers near shit themselves!

[brads]

Bugger me guys...it was a pissy little tap on the arm,ive been a fan of Randy and hope he gets his shite together and rides like he can but he was way wrong to pull in front of Casey like he did,worth a fine? yeah...but to get all this talk about starting from the back...not at all....come on....

[Crasherfromwayback]

Bugger me guys...it was a pissy little tap on the arm,ive been a fan of Randy and hope he gets his shite together and rides like he can but he was way wrong to pull in front of Casey like he did,worth a fine? yeah...but to get all this talk about starting from the back...not at all....come on....

Aye. I reckon they should've just let poor wee Randy slap Stoners arm back!!!

[vinducati]

Randy was not in the wrong, he looked saw Stoner and moved to the side.
A mistake maybe I don't think so Stoner should have held back he had pole for sure anyway.
Stoner is acting like a spoilt brat.
He got on the Ducati when it was good and won a world championship.Then the bike got worse. A bike he would be part of developing.
He hops on the Honda and as the bike is good and he's good, but I bet he and Honda can't develop it as well as Rossi and Jeremy Burgess can develop the Ducati.
Ducati will not get there this year but they will get there next year.
I hope he doesn't win the championship, mainly cause is seriously uncool.
Cheers

[Crasherfromwayback]

Randy was not in the wrong, he looked saw Stoner and moved to the side.
A mistake maybe I don't think so Stoner should have held back he had pole for sure anyway.
Stoner is acting like a spoilt brat.
He got on the Ducati when it was good and won a world championship.Then the bike got worse. A bike he would be part of developing.
He hops on the Honda and as the bike is good and he's good, but I bet he and Honda can't develop it as well as Rossi and Jeremy Burgess can develop the Ducati.
Ducati will not get there this year but they will get there next year.
I hope he doesn't win the championship, mainly cause is seriously uncool.
Cheers

Again in English please??

[sosman]

Randy was not in the wrong, he looked saw Stoner and moved to the side.
A mistake maybe I don't think so Stoner should have held back he had pole for sure anyway.
Stoner is acting like a spoilt brat.
He got on the Ducati when it was good and won a world championship.Then the bike got worse. A bike he would be part of developing.
He hops on the Honda and as the bike is good and he's good, but I bet he and Honda can't develop it as well as Rossi and Jeremy Burgess can develop the Ducati.
Ducati will not get there this year but they will get there next year.
I hope he doesn't win the championship, mainly cause is seriously uncool.
Cheers

Bwahaha! thats some crazy shit!
Every one that comes onto that back straight comes off the left hand curb pretty much!...then work there way towards the right hand side of the back straight in order to get setup for the left hander after it...RDP should have stay where he was, cause he was pissing around doing hand signals to bautista. :facepalm:
As they say at briefing for tracks day etc......hold yr line, don't worry about the rider behind you, do not move over, he will pass you

[denill]

The anti Stoner's out there should not read this extract from Daryl Beattie's interview with Jeremy Burgess:

Beattie directly asked Burgess if now that he had seen the inside of the Ducati MotoGP bike and team, if he "... wondered how the hell Casey ever won races on it?".
Burgess responded, "Look, Casey is a fantastic rider and did a wonderful job on that bike. But there were too many DNFs. In this particular instance, Ducati let themselves down by only analyzing the success. They never analyzed the failure. They treated the DNFs of Casey as (being) more specific to Casey, as bad luck rather than something not quite right (with the bike). .. Perhaps Casey had to ride too close to the limit to win. the margin Casey had was a lot slimmer than we would like to have on the bike that Valentino rides."

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/May/110519burgess.htm

[gixerracer]

Randy was not in the wrong, he looked saw Stoner and moved to the side.
A mistake maybe I don't think so Stoner should have held back he had pole for sure anyway.
Stoner is acting like a spoilt brat.
He got on the Ducati when it was good and won a world championship.Then the bike got worse. A bike he would be part of developing.
He hops on the Honda and as the bike is good and he's good, but I bet he and Honda can't develop it as well as Rossi and Jeremy Burgess can develop the Ducati.
Ducati will not get there this year but they will get there next year.
I hope he doesn't win the championship, mainly cause is seriously uncool.
Cheers

Dude you shouldnt smoke your crack pipe before getting on the net. Randy was 100% at fault he was cruzing down the middle of the track playing with his cock which shouldnt be allowed, get the fuck to one side or the other, he looks and saw Casey coming and made no gesture what so ever and then just decides to turn, the guy in that moment was a moron and should no better. He should have got the fine as well as casey because punching someone is not so great unless it is behind the sheds where no one can see.
Im not sure if you have ever raced on a track at speed before but you should go try it and you will realise just how dangerous it was:innocent:

[Crasherfromwayback]

A mistake maybe I don't think so Stoner should have held back he had pole for sure anyway.


If I'm not mistaken, the incident happeened in morning warmup not qualifying. Morning warm up is not a time to be dawdling around at 20hph.

[imdying]

Now how about Maverick's win? Anybody else win one on their 4th GP? Somebody will be kicking themselves for 'letting him past' on a couple of occasions will they not?

[Crasherfromwayback]

He got on the Ducati when it was good and won a world championship.Then the bike got worse. A bike he would be part of developing.


Have you ever stopped to think that maybe Stoner is a fine develpment rider, and that Ducati simply wanted to do the whole carbon fiber frame thing regardless of what he said? If he's that shit at getting bikes to work and knowing what works what doesn't etc...don't you find it odd that he was able to get the Ducati set up well enough to win races on it...when even a certain Valentino Rossi can't...with Jerry Burgesss' help?


Burgess responded, "Look, Casey is a fantastic rider and did a wonderful job on that bike. But there were too many DNFs. In this particular instance, Ducati let themselves down by only analyzing the success. They never analyzed the failure. They treated the DNFs of Casey as (being) more specific to Casey, as bad luck rather than something not quite right (with the bike)

Yeah...and only now that they've paid the higest amount ever for Rossi will they listen to anybody that the bike is actually shit. And because Stoner was winning races on it...it was fine!

[vinducati]

Crikey you guys do take yourselves very seriously don't you.
I think that perhaps I was wrong and Randy did do something very dangerous.
I stand corrected.
I do ride and as a fact do ride at trackdays, and I never look back and always hold my line.
Guess I let the fact I hate Stoner so much cloud my judgment.
And I still feel his wife is not that hot.
Cheers All.

[sosman]

Crikey you guys do take yourselves very seriously don't you.
I think that perhaps I was wrong and Randy did do something very dangerous.
I stand corrected.
I do ride and as a fact do ride at trackdays, and I never look back and always hold my line.
Guess I let the fact I hate Stoner so much cloud my judgment.
And I still feel his wife is not that hot.
Cheers All.

No probs...on ya! :drinknsin
& same goes for stoners Missus, not enuff weights & too much speed haha!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Crikey you guys do take yourselves very seriously don't you.
I think that perhaps I was wrong and Randy did do something very dangerous.
I stand corrected.
I do ride and as a fact do ride at trackdays, and I never look back and always hold my line.
Guess I let the fact I hate Stoner so much cloud my judgment.
And I still feel his wife is not that hot.
Cheers All.

No...but it's an internet forum where people share their opinions and you're as welcome to yours as we are ours. The fact that you hold your line and never look back at track days means you're one step ahead of Randy!

You don't think Stoners wife is hot? Now I know your eyesight is fucked!

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[brads]

No...but it's an internet forum where people share their opinions and you're as welcome to yours as we are ours. The fact that you hold your line and never look back at track days means you're one step ahead of Randy!

You don't think Stoners wife is hot? Now I know your eyesight is fucked!

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:lol::lol::lol::lol:

[rachprice]

Crikey you guys do take yourselves very seriously don't you.
I think that perhaps I was wrong and Randy did do something very dangerous.
I stand corrected.
I do ride and as a fact do ride at trackdays, and I never look back and always hold my line.
Guess I let the fact I hate Stoner so much cloud my judgment.
And I still feel his wife is not that hot.
Cheers All.


No probs...on ya! :drinknsin
& same goes for stoners Missus, not enuff weights & too much speed haha!

Yeah you guys are mad!
I would totally let her touch me up

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeah you guys are mad!
I would totally let her touch me up

If I really had to, I could watch that!:love:

[vinducati]

Perhaps this should be moved to the dirty old farts post

[gixerracer]

If I really had to, I could watch that!:love:

Im with pete on this one:innocent:

[gixerracer]

Crikey you guys do take yourselves very seriously don't you.
I think that perhaps I was wrong and Randy did do something very dangerous.
I stand corrected.
I do ride and as a fact do ride at trackdays, and I never look back and always hold my line.
Guess I let the fact I hate Stoner so much cloud my judgment.
And I still feel his wife is not that hot.
Cheers All.

Man you do like that crack pipe dont ya.
Not hot. WTF:facepalm:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Im with pete on this one:innocent:

I'd sell tickets. I want another vintage dirtbike.

[fi5hy]

Your a sick man Pete but your right she is HOT

[Crasherfromwayback]

Your a sick man Pete but your right she is HOT

Am not. And yeah...she is SMOKING!

[vinducati]

Anyone know where I cam get some more crack?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Anyone know where I cam get some more crack?

More than you'll ever need right here mate!

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[RobGassit]

More than you'll ever need right here mate!

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Any intention of buying a ticket to watch Rachel and Adrianna go for it has no shrivelled up.

[Mental Trousers]

Have you ever stopped to think that maybe Stoner is a fine develpment rider, and that Ducati simply wanted to do the whole carbon fiber frame thing regardless of what he said? If he's that shit at getting bikes to work and knowing what works what doesn't etc...don't you find it odd that he was able to get the Ducati set up well enough to win races on it...when even a certain Valentino Rossi can't...with Jerry Burgesss' help?

Yet. Stoner had 4 years (I think) on the thing.

It was very unfortunate that Ducati didn't really listen to him. There'll be quite a few reasons for that, such as his ability to win on it anyway, he's not Italian, they are Italian (ie rather arrogant) etc.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yet. Stoner had 4 years (I think) on the thing.

It was very unfortunate that Ducati didn't really listen to him. There'll be quite a few reasons for that, such as his ability to win on it anyway, he's not Italian, they are Italian (ie rather arrogant) etc.

Agreed. Be interesting to see how development with the Honda goes with Stoner on board.

[denill]

And I still feel his wife is not that hot.

And how do you think she would regard you. :facepalm:

The catch of the century?

[Mental Trousers]

Agreed. Be interesting to see how development with the Honda goes with Stoner on board.

From what I've seen the Honda's are at the point where no individual rider can make a significant improvement. All riders are able to do well on it. So other than sorting out the off the throttle behaviour (the Honda's don't use fuel to keep the idle high and therefore the back torque low) they can work on extending tyre life and other stuff.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I was more meaning development of the new Thou. But I hear ya.

[Badjelly]

On the Marco-Dani crash, David Emmett reckons Dani stood the bike up because Marco had just clipped Dani's front wheel with his knee.

http://motomatters.com/opinion/2011/05/22/marco_simoncelli_s_greatest_crime_impati.html

This puts a different perspective on the "it's Dani's fault because he stood the bike up" argument, I think.

[Crasherfromwayback]

On the Marco-Dani crash, David Emmett reckons Dani stood the bike up because Marco had just clipped Dani's front wheel with his knee.

http://motomatters.com/opinion/2011/05/22/marco_simoncelli_s_greatest_crime_impati.html

This puts a different perspective on the "it's Dani's fault because he stood the bike up" argument, I think.

Just another mans opinion. Doesn't change mine.

[Cleve]

Caprirossi says -

* What do you think about Marco Simoncelli being accused of riding dangerously?

Well, in my opinion, it’s not dangerous.
He just always tries to ride 100%, you know.
Sometimes he makes a mistake but this is racing!
Some riders want to go fast, you always have to try to find a limit.

For me, Marco, right now, is one of the really strong young talents.
He has a great future in MotoGP.

* And what do you think about of the fighting talks going on?

For me, I can smile about it all because it is my 22nd season in MotoGP.
And it is always like that because the journalists want something to talk about: the fight between Casey and Valentino, the fight between Jorge and Marco…
Anyway, it’s bullshit!

I think the most important is to see a nice race.

[Badjelly]

Just another mans opinion. Doesn't change mine.

So you don't think Marco's knee clipped Dani's front wheel before Dani stood the bike up? Or you don't care?

[Crasherfromwayback]

So you don't think Marco's knee clipped Dani's front wheel before Dani stood the bike up? Or you don't care?

No I don't think it did. And even if it did...should be no big deal. My first set of leathers had a mark on the arm of them from Mike McCutcheons RGV's front disc rotor when I lent on him as he was trying to barge his way through. He didn't pick it up or bin it. But it's all good. Regardless of how anyone sees it, I'm sure we all agree on one thing. It's gonna be fireworks all season. And that can only be a good thing!!

[codgyoleracer]

No I don't think it did. And even if it did...should be no big deal. My first set of leathers had a mark on the arm of them from Mike McCutcheons RGV's front disc rotor when I lent on him as he was trying to barge his way through. He didn't pick it up or bin it. But it's all good. Regardless of how anyone sees it, I'm sure we all agree on one thing. It's gonna be fireworks all season. And that can only be a good thing!!

Pretty tricky situation that one aye Pete...... The little Mexican felt he couldnt really grab any more brake , but as soon as he got off the gas the bike runs wide into Marco. My gut feeling is that Marco was looking like he was gonna run wide coming out of the corner anyway. On the other hand he shouldnt have been able to get turned that far round the outside of Pedro in the first place & that would support that Pedro was a little to tame in the early part of the brake area.

All adds up to one thing....... A racing incident / 2 bikes one piece of track.......

[Crasherfromwayback]

All adds up to one thing....... A racing incident / 2 bikes one piece of track.......

Yep. And if you're from a 125cc moto-x back round it used to be 40 bikes and one piece of track come turn one!

[slowpoke]

This just in from the FIM:

Statement from the MotoGP Race Direction
Grand Premi Aperol De Catalunya Circuit of Catalunya, Thursday June 2nd. 2011.

The Race Direction composed of Paul Butler, Race Director and IRTA representative, Claude Danis, FIM representative, Javier Alonso, Dorna representative, and Franco Uncini, IRTA Riders Safety delegate today met with San Carlo Honda Gresini rider Marco Simoncelli. Also present was San Carlo Honda Gresini Team Principal Fausto Gresini.

The purpose of the meeting was to give all the parties the opportunity to discuss the incident at the French MotoGP in Le Mans that resulted in Marco Simoncelli being penalised with a ride through penalty and to draw a line under it.
The Race Direction informed Simoncelli that they wished to ensure that he was aware of his mistake and to avoid any repetition in the future. Simoncelli responded that in the interval after the French Grand Prix he had had time for reflection and regretted the statements he had made in the heat of the moment immediately after the Grand Prix. He also recognized that he had made an error of judgment and stated that in future he would try to evaluate situations better and be a little more cautious.



I'd hardly call a thump on the arm 'striking' a fellow competitor. Smashing him in the face yes. I could be wrong, but I don't think you've done a whole lot of road racing?

When some clown (especially one that should know better) does something really idiotic that could've well killed you, it's fucking easy on the spot to lose your rag. Pretty sure I've seen posts from you saying you'd smash someone for sitting on your bike in the past? Pretty minor offence compared to a fucking stupid move that could've killed you I'd say. There's a lot at stake for Stoner (another world championship in fact), and he's already been skittled once this season by a fuckhead type move...so I can fully understand him being a bit scratchy towards such stupidity.

C'mon Pete, which way do ya want it? It's just a tad contradictory to be upset about what resulted in just a slow lap time for one rider (not even in a race situation) and then be quite happy to say "rubbin's racin'" about an incident where some one was actually injured and had their championship bid derailed.

Franco Uncini is from the old school, so as the rider's safety rep, and with access to all the footage/data etc, if he was involved in reprimanding Simoncelli then that says something to me. I'm all for close racing, and realise that contact is inevitable, but the last thing I want to see is riders fucked up. There are more than enough dead or maimed riders on the honour roll for my liking.

Ultimately Simoncelli was the only one who could have avoided the incident yet he didn't. Pedrosa was looking around/through the left hand corner as all good riders do, so Simoncelli has basically come from behind his head with taking the high line from the right. Pedrosa would have heard him but wouldn't have seen him until it was waaaay too late. Whereas Simoncelli could see from way back that he was going to cross Pedrosa's bows and carried on regardless.