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igor
13th May 2011, 18:47
so in english below this means if you are disqualified for more than 28 days (yes demerit suspensions count) even after your disqualification is up until you must go and get a new version of your drivers licence. If you dont you are deemed to be an "unlicensed driver" and you can get a fine and be forbdden to drive.

If you ignore this then if stopped aagin u can be fined again. or arrested and charged with offence to go to court and your vehicle will be impounded for 28 days.

woohoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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Land Transport (Road Safety and Other Matters) Amendment Act 2011 No 13, Public Act

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48 New sections 82A to 82C inserted

(1) The following sections are inserted after section 82:

“82A Application for reinstatement if suspended for any period (other than under section 95), or disqualified for period not exceeding 12 months

“(1) This section applies to a person if—

“(a) the person’s driver licence is suspended for any period (other than under section 95); or

“(b) the person’s disqualification does not exceed 12 months.

“(2) If this section applies, a person’s driver licence remains of no effect when the period of suspension or disqualification ends until—

“(a) the person applies to the Agency to have the licence reinstated; and

“(b) the Agency reinstates, if permitted by the regulations or the rules, the person’s licence in accordance with the regulations and the rules.
“82B Transitional provision concerning application of section 82A

To avoid doubt, section 82A applies if a period of disqualification or suspension ends after the commencement of that section, even though the period of disqualification or suspension began before the commencement of that section.”

(2) The following section is inserted in its appropriate order:

“82C Application for reinstatement following expiry of alcohol interlock licence or zero alcohol licence

“(1) This section applies to a person whose alcohol interlock licence or zero alcohol licence (as the case may be) has expired.

“(2) If this section applies, a person’s driver licence remains of no effect when the alcohol interlock licence or zero alcohol licence expires until—

“(a) the person applies to the Agency to have the licence reinstated; and

“(b) the Agency reinstates, if permitted by the regulations or the rules, the person’s licence in accordance with the regulations and the rules.”
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but wait theres more

Suspension of licence or disqualification from driving under demerit points system

“(1) If, in any 2-year period, a person has accumulated a total of 100 or more demerit points, the Agency must give notice in writing advising the person that—

“(a) the person has accumulated 100 or more demerit points; and

“(b) the penalty specified in subsection (3) or (5) has been imposed and takes effect immediately.

“(2) The notice given under subsection (1) may be served by—

“(a) the Agency; or

“(b) a person approved for the purpose by the Agency; or

“(c) an enforcement officer.

“(3) If the person holds a current driver licence, the effect of a notice given under subsection (1) is that the licence—

“(a) is suspended for a period of 3 months or, if longer than 3 months, the period calculated under section 90A; and

“(b) remains of no effect when the period of suspension ends until the person applies to the Agency to have the licence reinstated and the Agency reinstates the licence.

“(4) A person whose driver licence has been suspended under subsection (3) may not hold or obtain a driver licence while the suspension is in force.

“(5) If the person does not hold a current driver licence, the person is disqualified from holding or obtaining a driver licence for a period of 3 months or, if longer than 3 months, the period calculated under section 90A.

“(6) A suspension or disqualification under this section begins on the date specified in the notice, which may not be earlier than the date on which the notice is served on the person.”

(2) The following section is inserted in its appropriate order:

“90A Calculation of demerit points

“(1) The period of suspension or disqualification under section 90(3) or (5) must be calculated in accordance with the following formula:

A = B × C

where—

A
is the total period of suspension in months
B
is 3 months
C
is the number of lots of 100 demerit points that a person has accumulated.

Example

A person commits 4 infringements in the following order: 1) the first infringement attracts 20 demerit points; 2) the second infringement attracts 50 demerit points; 3) the third infringement attracts 35 demerit points; and 4) the fourth infringement attracts 35 demerit points. The person's total is 140 demerit points. The person has accumulated enough demerit points for the first 3 infringements to exceed the 100-demerit-point threshold (20 + 50 + 35 = 105). In accordance with the formula, the person is suspended for 3 months (A = B × C = 3 × 1 = 3). After the person has served the suspension, the 105 demerit points accumulated by the person for the first 3 infringements are cancelled, leaving the 35 demerit points of the fourth infringement recorded against the person (140 – 105 = 35). If the person subsequently commits 2 more infringements, each attracting 50 demerit points, the person would have a total of 135 demerit points (35 + 50 + 50 = 135), which would exceed the 100-demerit-point threshold and result in another 3-month suspension (A = B × C = 3 × 1 = 3), leaving no demerit points recorded against the person (135 – 135 = 0).

“(2) For the purposes of the formula in subsection (1),—

“(a) C must be determined as follows:

“(i) the demerit points recorded against a person for an infringement must be treated as indivisible; and

“(ii) the demerit points recorded against a person for each infringement must be added together in the order in which the person committed the infringements until a total of 100 demerit points is reached or exceeded; and

“(b) if the total of demerit points in the group of infringements used to determine a lot of 100 demerit points exceeds 100 demerit points, the excess demerit points from that group of infringements may not be used to determine a subsequent lot of 100 demerit points.

“(3) If a person accumulates additional demerit points that have not been included when calculating the period of suspension under subsection (1), and the additional demerit points would result in an additional period of suspension or disqualification, the Agency must, by another notice in writing given to the person, inform that person of the additional period of suspension or disqualification.

“(4) The additional period of suspension or disqualification takes effect from whichever is the later of—

“(a) the end of the existing period of suspension or disqualification; or

“(b) the date the additional notice is served.”

Mom
13th May 2011, 18:49
Cut and paste is your friend :blink:

Seems fair enough to me :yes: You will be informed of YOUR obligations at the time of disqualification, up to you from there on.

unstuck
13th May 2011, 19:03
If your not breaking the law you have nothing to worry about.If you are,own up to it and move on.Dont sweat the small stuff,its all small stuff.:yes:

Oblivion
13th May 2011, 19:09
If your not breaking the law you have nothing to worry about.If you are,own up to it and move on.Dont sweat the small stuff,its all small stuff.:yes:

But, If its anything like jewelry, the small stuff is usually the most expensive. :blink:

varminter
13th May 2011, 20:05
Sorry, I fell asleep half way through but, don't be naughty = no punishment. Works for me...mostly. In fact I think it would be a good idea if anyone with more than a certain number of naughty person points had to at least sit a scratchy test (or the on line equivalent) half of the fuckers on the road round here would fail. Is there a smiley for a rant?

Gremlin
13th May 2011, 20:24
Considering I've actually tried both methods (naughty and nice) and I am now qualified to comment.

Naughty = loss of money, gain of points things, loss of time, increase in stress.
Gain of points is not like being a kid and collecting them all. You only have to collect some quickly enough, and they give you a prize. Trust me on this, its a shit one, and not worth the effort.

Nice = no loss of money, no complications with point things, you just have 0, no loss in time etc.

It's worked for me, and I just know it will work for you!!

Call now!!

igor
13th May 2011, 20:40
geez with all the answers I have seen it appears we are having a moron free evening on kiwibiker :yes:

scumdog
13th May 2011, 20:56
geez with all the answers I have seen it appears we are having a moron free evening on kiwibiker :yes:

Just wait, some cretinous drongo moron will rear it's ugly thick head and normal KB service will resume.:yes:

But the laws seem sensible and easy to avoid getting tangled with i.m.h.o.

FJRider
13th May 2011, 21:10
Just wait, some cretinous drongo moron will rear it's ugly thick head and normal KB service will resume.:yes:

But the laws seem sensible and easy to avoid getting tangled with i.m.h.o.

It seems they are using their right to remain silent ... long may it continue ... :yes:

igor
13th May 2011, 21:14
poor wee things are probably confused having to stitch more than 2 sentences to gether

swbarnett
14th May 2011, 21:09
"Reinstatement" does not mean you have to get a new licence. The old one is just reactivated. Doesn't seem any different.

igor
14th May 2011, 21:15
"Reinstatement" does not mean you have to get a new licence. The old one is just reactivated. Doesn't seem any different.

and you have to hand the old one in when you are disqualified. You think they gunna have a big room full of licences. Approx 36000 people get disqualified for drink driving ONLY each year. not all the other offences. (yeah right) you will be getting another one and Police are being told to check version number.

swbarnett
15th May 2011, 00:36
and you have to hand the old one in when you are disqualified. You think they gunna have a big room full of licences.
Yes, I believe this is how it works (or at least worked). The one and only time I had a demerit based disqualification my license was reactivated without the need for a new one.

Brian d marge
15th May 2011, 00:38
Thx 1138 please take your medicine

no I will not

Stephen

MSTRS
15th May 2011, 10:59
Not sure that I see anything really different there.
To legally operate a motor vehicle, you must hold the appropriate licence class, and you must carry the plastic photo licence (or a temporary paper equivalent) at all times when using said vehicle. Not carrying it when driving is an offence in it's own right.
If you are disqualified for any reason, you must hand over that physical piece of plastic or paper.
When the period of suspension is up, you must apply for the return of that physical piece of plastic (or a new replacement one). A paper one has probably expired, so that's a whole other scenario.
You have never been allowed to just simply resume driving once the suspension period is up.

imdying
15th May 2011, 13:42
That it even has to exist at all as a physical entity in the most ridiculous part.

swbarnett
15th May 2011, 18:20
You have never been allowed to just simply resume driving once the suspension period is up.
When I had my suspension ('98 I think). I was told that it was automatic at the start of the next business day that the suspension would be reversed. I never applied to have it done and I have had evidence since then that my license is indeed valid.

Genestho
15th May 2011, 18:28
The big difference, I'd imagine - is more within the alcohol interlock licensing system, which kicks in at the 3rd+ convictions.

The licenses will have to be issued and carried, to be recognised as an interlock user, if or when pulled over by police.

When the period of required 'clean driver' record, is complete, as well as the assessment program, they are then free to apply for the re-instatement.

This is how the program is supposed to work anyway..

Gubb
15th May 2011, 18:56
Just wait, some cretinous drongo moron will rear it's ugly thick head and normal KB service will resume.:yes:

But the laws seem sensible and easy to avoid getting tangled with i.m.h.o.
DRONGOS?

That's bloody insulting that is. Badge Number or I take this shit International.

YOU'VE BEEN WARNED SCUMMY.

Tunahunter
16th May 2011, 16:07
Sorry, I fell asleep half way through but, don't be naughty = no punishment. Works for me...mostly. In fact I think it would be a good idea if anyone with more than a certain number of naughty person points had to at least sit a scratchy test (or the on line equivalent) half of the fuckers on the road round here would fail. Is there a smiley for a rant?

Is 137kph between the Terrace Tunnel and the Tinakori off ramp naughty? (Its only a 15 second ride)

MSTRS
16th May 2011, 17:22
When I had my suspension ('98 I think). I was told that it was automatic at the start of the next business day that the suspension would be reversed. I never applied to have it done and I have had evidence since then that my license is indeed valid.

Ah, but did you have your piece of plastic back first? Or somehow managed to retain it when the suspension started?

Big Dave
16th May 2011, 17:28
DRONGOS?

Badge Number



Badge Number???

I want to see his passport to see if he's authorised to speak Australian.

Camshaft
17th May 2011, 18:52
when does this come into action, by get a new licence, you mean you have to fill out some forms, or re-sit the full licence test?

blackdog
17th May 2011, 19:06
Is 137kph between the Terrace Tunnel and the Tinakori off ramp naughty? (Its only a 15 second ride)

At 173 it's only 9 seconds ;) (allegedly)

swbarnett
17th May 2011, 20:55
Ah, but did you have your piece of plastic back first? Or somehow managed to retain it when the suspension started?
I did retain it. Noone ever asked for it.

cheshirecat
17th May 2011, 22:10
At 173 it's only 9 seconds ;) (allegedly)
Might explain why I saw PC (deadly serious) M/C parked on the Tinakori off ramp once

MSTRS
18th May 2011, 07:41
I did retain it. Noone ever asked for it.

You were lucky...normally it's taken off filthy criminals like you :innocent: who amass those demerits.

swbarnett
18th May 2011, 07:53
You were lucky...
Indeed


filthy criminals like you :innocent: who amass those demerits.
The thing that annoyed me was that the third ticket I got was for 121kph. Had it been 1kph lower I'd have been OK