RaceEvolution. Any good?

[colsan1]

I was looking over the RaceEvolution website and the stuff on there look good but
they seem to be awfully cheap.
Has anyone bought any of their stuff ?? Is it any good ??

The fairings look like the cheap crappy ones that pour out of Asia.
I know of people who've bought the Asian ones and found they are shite and need
serious work to get em to fit.

cheers

[racefactory]

Let's get something straight, Chinese ebay fairings are just great. As long as you aren't an idiot and buy them from a semi reputable seller you can't go wrong. Back in the day there were a few complaints about particular sellers with melting and poor quality but they've come a long way and I've got no complaints.

Yes, you might have to do a little bit of adjusting here and there, but if you aren't a total idiot they'll be just fine. What's more is that they actually do last well. Raceevolution most likely orders them from a Chinese factory. Highly doubt they make them themselves, just a sales pitch.

[sil3nt]

Icemaestro just got some...


Thanks,
Actually, they arrived today, look brilliant....fit shocking...worse than ebay ones I've seen! Missing mounting brackets, tabs, holes being a good cm off, the two side rear fairings are slighly different lengths, pillion lock mech doesn't fit in the hole...
On the bright side...they guarantee fitting...so I emailed them...for the price they were compared with the price on ebay should get a better set TBH!

You could try NZ made fairings www.justfairings.co.nz

[specter]

i got some for my bike. fit was 99% perfect and they look great! haven't had anything bad happen to them yet?

[dodgyguy]

I actually bought a new screen for the R6 not long ago off these guys.

Communication was good and the screen looked pretty good with a nice finish etc

But it did take two weeks and the holes where the screen mounts onto the bike were far too small for the grommets, but again nothing that a high speed drill couldn't fix. :D

Would i use them again? i dont think so. The screen cost me about $190, it took too long to get there and for that price i expected it to fit.

[Icemaestro]

Speed was good, service good, I've got a full set here, however on the stock fairings there are quite a few places on mine where stuff mounts onto the inside of the fairings (side trim, radiator guard, rear lights). None of these points are there - I've talked to them and they've asked for photos of the problem bits.
Also, the two sides don't fit together at the lights (gap of about .5-1cm on one side, tabs not lining up/fitting in togeter), the hole for the seat lock is too small and those tabs don't line up, and the fairings are too thick to mount the lock on it anyway with the mount from the original fairings. For the price they are compared with what one could get ordering by yourself from ebay I woudln't recommend it.
Also I thought it would come with bolts or something for the mounting points they've replaced with normal holes for bolts/screws...haven't had a direct reply as to whether it was supposed to come with these (eg the windscreen will need a bolt kit as the stock ones are non-reusable)

However their custom paint job was nothing short of brilliant. Finish is excellent

[colsan1]

So the verdict seems to be nice paint shame about the rest.
I dont want to fook about with mismatched bits and have to knock up brackets
to mount things that should fix onto the fairing.
The price is irrelevent, they are making a profit on the goods and they should fit
as decribed, if they dont then in my eyes they are shite.
cheers guys, dont think i'll bother.

[Steve Gauge]

id have to agree with colosan1 they are just cheap shit , you would be better of repairing your originals and spend the money on a decent paint job , if you were to buy them you may aswell get them of ebay as they will probably made in the same factory ,as for fixing ice maestros fairings I cant see how race evolution can its not like he can repair and repaint them or if he replaces them ice maestro will end up with the same issues as they wil be from the same moulds ,as for perfect fit speil what a joke take him up on his money back guarantee ice maestro

[.produKt]

I dealt with these guys recently. The guys an indian and a clueless douche. The bike was in for insurance repairs after being backed into a fence *still crying over that one* He wanted payment upfront for the fairings which is just ridiculous.

So the guys at Street and Sport Triumph coughed up painfully knowing full well that this guy from a shit little upstart company could do a runner. He didn't tho and the fairings weren't bad at all apart from some misaligned letters and a paintdrip or two.

Good bits:
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee7/produKtNZ/IMG_0967.jpg
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee7/produKtNZ/IMG_0962Large.jpg

Average bits:
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee7/produKtNZ/HondaLogoonreariscrooked.jpg
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee7/produKtNZ/Rearquarterpaintdrip.jpg
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee7/produKtNZ/SideFairingsPaintlinesdonotmach.jpg

NB: I still haven't had the tank painted to match >_<

[Icemaestro]

Huh, wow so you had a bit of the opposite, yours look like they fit miles better than mine, my tabs that are supposed to go underneath seriously line up with the next panel! And my paint is great, no drips at all..
Yeah tbh I'm hoping for a refund, I don't see how they can fix all the tabs, when some don't even line up - would involve plastic welding etc which I ain't putting up with, not for this price.

Has anyone tried tyga's fairings? Do they fit together as well as stock ones?

[.produKt]

Well i've never fitted Tyga fairings but I hear great things about them ie "Their quality far surpasses all others"etc. Note that you can completely restyle your bikes with their kits too. i was going to go with the Tyga fairings but the insurance company wouldn't allow it. Too expensive vs the option I had already presented to them.

And yea I did have a bit of the opposite. Trying to broadcast to the guy wtf i wanted was a near 3 week long nightmare. All mount point's match up perfectly.

Good luck with getting a refund. You're gonna need it.

[DrunkenMistake]

I want stock fairings but a tyga two seat tail,

I was hoping to get some prepainted ABS ones from RaceEvo, but doesnt sound like a good idea.. haha

[.produKt]

I want stock fairings but a tyga two seat tail,

I was hoping to get some prepainted ABS ones from RaceEvo, but doesnt sound like a good idea.. haha

it's bit of a mixed bag tobehonest. My fairings are great and fit perfectly. paint 90% of a good job and to exactly what i wanted (modification of the RC211v paint-scheme of 94)

Give him a ring.

Oh and I like your idea. My last CBR before this one had a Tyga tail end on it and it looked fucken brilliant
http://s235.photobucket.com/albums/ee7/produKtNZ/?action=view&current=DSC04735.jpg

[DrunkenMistake]

it's bit of a mixed bag tobehonest. My fairings are great and fit perfectly. paint 90% of a good job and to exactly what i wanted (modification of the RC211v paint-scheme of 94)

Give him a ring.

Oh and I like your idea. My last CBR before this one had a Tyga tail end on it and it looked fucken brilliant
http://s235.photobucket.com/albums/ee7/produKtNZ/?action=view&current=DSC04735.jpg
http://tyga-performance.com/site/product_info.php?cPath=72_83_148_512&products_id=1829
That tail there is the one I want, It looks sick, and it looks kinda stock, I dont want to go far out from stock, and the nose of the bike doesnt look that bad, I emailed them some time ago and with no reply.

[.produKt]

http://tyga-performance.com/site/product_info.php?cPath=72_83_148_512&products_id=1829
That tail there is the one I want, It looks sick, and it looks kinda stock, I dont want to go far out from stock, and the nose of the bike doesnt look that bad, I emailed them some time ago and with no reply.

Yea man, I'd go with that kit. Get rid of those fugly twin cube brakelights :bleh:

You emailed Tyga with no reply or Racedickyouround?

[Rehab]

Being new to this site I'm not sure if anyone will see this if I post here, but I will for now rather than getting pinged for starting a new thread with the same topic.

It's gonna be a wee rant to get some shit off my chest anyway, and hopefully if someone searches for Race Evolution on here (like I didn't prior to dealing with them) they'll find this thread like I just did.

Needed new front guard. Thought I'd do a test run first to check quality/service etc. Ordered screen bolt kit, fairing bolt kit and frame sliders for the CBR. I also asked (via email after I'd finished the order) which bar ends would fit best and their weight. Got told the alloy ones would be best and they were "extremely light weight" (huh???). He then tried to charge me for them and I had to email and correct the order.

First problem: When ordering I initially ticked that I'd pay by credit card/Paypal. That didn't work due funds, so I transferred the money directly into their account the next day. A day or two later I'd heard nothing until I got an email stating I owed them another $5 for shipping. Checked invoice which said I'd already paid $4.95 for shipping so asked what was up? Told that because my method of payment was different to what I'd originally stated, shipping was an extra $5. Odd, but guessed my fault so paid it into their account in cash at the bank that day and asked them to rush the order because I was now in a hurry due the delay. Got told the order was already on the courier and he'd check the tracking number shortly and get back to me.

Several days later I had no stuff but was still short about $140. During the day I rang, texted and emailed a total of 8 times and got no answer and no reply. Three days later I get an email wishing me a happy day or some shit and giving me the tracking number. Went on the NZ Post site to check where it was (somewhere between New Lynn and Glenfield I assumed) and discovered that it had "Departed Country of Origin" - China of course..... FFS.....

Turns out that despite the website being covered with "We are 100% Kiwi owned, So you know you are buying from a name you can trust. Based in Auckland, we work hard everyday to find you only the best deals." they actually hold no stock and order shit from China when you order from them. Hence the massive delay and also the fact that there is no quality control at this end - if the supplier sends you the wrong stuff, you know before they do.

So, a couple of weeks after paying, the shit turns up. The screen screws are supposed to be blue but they are black. The first one I put on the bike has the head snap off as soon as it makes contact with the fairing using zero force. Upon inspection, the ring of "metal" holding the head to the screw is about a half a hair's thickness. The fairing bolts don't fit the existing nuts and don't come with their own so are useless too. The anodizing has got all scratched in transit in the crappy plastic bag and so even if they did fit and weren't crap, they look like shit and worse than the ones I'm replacing. One frame slider required slight modification to fit over the existing lock nut on one side. I did the alteration by widening the hole slightly using a blunt drill bit held in my hand, and it cut through the plastic like butter. I'd be stunned of they do jack shit if the bike falls off it's stand - if it goes down the road at 10km/h they'll be ground off in about half a second. Given the quality of the other fixings, I am most certainly going to replace the bolts with decent ones I can trust too. They will be on the bike only as long as it takes for me to be able to pay for Oggi Knobs.

I have asked for a refund on the screws and bolts and explained what I've just written here. The sliders are my own stupid fault for buying cheap and because I have altered one I'm sure they won't refund them anyway. I also asked for their physical location so I can take the crap to them so won't have no stuff and no money at the same time. They don't wanna tell me???

If you're thinking of buying fairings off them, first I'd get a CAT scan to find out what's wrong, and then read the Help section on their website which details all the ways in which you won't get your money back ( http://www.raceevolution.co.nz/help ). I won't reproduce it here, but you'll see that they will replace bits broken in transit (if you photograph, pay for postage etc etc) and yet also state "We are in no way responsible for items once dispatched.". You can also return your fairings for a refund (less $100 + 15% - 30% of the purchase price + postage) BUT "custom kits are not returnable. "Customisation" includes but not limited to colour, decals and shape". So I guess you could get a partial refund for a clear flat piece of plastic with no stickers if that's what you'd ordered?

Anyway, will be fair and update if I ever see any of my money again. Lesson learned, but hopefully I can save someone else from making the same balls-up.

Oh, just remembered, to add insult to injury the packing/customs slip on the box clearly states that the value of the contents is $15. :buggerd:

And for balance, the following are fecking brilliant:
Just Fairings - great prices, great service, awesome product.
Kolorinn Kustom - as above and a right laugh as well
Fast Bike Bits - where I should have gone instead of Race Crapshite. Quality mostly European gear online at good prices and, although he doesn't have a shop, you can go to Liam's house in Te Atatu to see the stuff and he'll even help you out with installation and so on. And he uses what he sells too.

[Steve Gauge]

Here we go again , Not surprising , I dont think Ice mistro had any luck getting his money back so count your losses and right it off to experience , at the end of the day his products sold have to suitable for the purpose its sold for (fair trading act) thanks for sharing though good warning for others.:niceone:

[Steve Gauge]

and I forgot , I like this part , WE TAKE NO RESPONSABILITY FOR ITEMS ONCE THEY ARE DISPATCHED , are you kidding they are dispatched from china :laugh: brilliant

[Grantman_]

I bought a front and right side fairing for my cbr250rr from race evolution round Feb this year. It took about 5-6 weeks from what I remember, and yes, it was shipped from China. I had sent the guy a picture of the paint scheme, and that's exactly what was ordered.

Some may be surprised given the comments on here, but the fairings were, and are, nothing short of mint. They fit perfectly and even have all the right decals. In fact I was, and am still somewhat, convinced the manufacturer must surely have bought Honda's tooling. The screen I ordered with the fairings, and the screen bolts, all look absolutely fine and work fine.

I also bought a muffler which arrived with a couple of small dents. I wasn't too happy about that obviously, but decided to cover the dents with a sticker and live with them. Annoyingly the muffler was missing several screws. I contacted the guy and they were sent through without drama.

[Icemaestro]

I have a small claims hearing mid Jan. in regards to the above post - I think the problem is that they go on about being 100% new zealand owned, you're buying from a nz company etc, when all they do is buy it off a Chinese company and put a massive mark up on it (in my case this was about 350%), and it all depends on how good the manufacturer is. I would guess in the case of the cbr250 that it's a very good mould (incidentally, it was a report from someone else who bought a cbr250 kit that was the reason I went with them as well). However as we have found it's obviously a bit hit and miss, and the problem being they don't honour or even admit to having those problems.

[RSrider]

Just had the displeasure of dealing with them. Placed order for black screen and fairing bolts on 27/12. Nothing on their website says they are non-operational over holidays. Had not received order by 4th Jan I so emailed him, and he tells me that he was on holiday and that my item would arrive tomorrow or next day. Didn't receive item until the 7th Jan , and when they do arrive the screen bolts are silver, not black and the fairing bolts are so cheap looking it isn't funny. The Black colour is already coming off before I even attempt to fit them, and when I do go to fit them the allen key just wears the black off in seconds.

Too make matters worse he tells me that he has no black screen bolts in stock, but I can wait for them to come off "backorder" in about 10 days!!! More like I can wait for him to go and buy them off Ebay and then add his own 50% markup to it!!

Although he has agreed to accept my return and refund me, I still believe this guy needs to have a goo hard look at the way he deals. Almost not worth the hassle.

[Rehab]

Too make matters worse he tells me that he has no black screen bolts in stock, but I can wait for them to come off "backorder" in about 10 days!!! More like I can wait for him to go and buy them off Ebay and then add his own 50% markup to it!!

Although he has agreed to accept my return and refund me, I still believe this guy needs to have a goo hard look at the way he deals. Almost not worth the hassle.

Try 350% markup. Backorder means he orders them again from China and you might get the right ones next time around. They'd still be shit quality though. Considering we both ordered pretty much identical items and had identical problems surely they realise their method isn't working or, even better, they won't be around much longer. It'd be really nice to search on TM without most of the search results coming back with their mis-spelt shitty ads.

My saga continues.... They wouldn't give me a physical address to take the shit back to so I was forced to post it. The package then went missing. Whatever you do make sure you use a tracked package, if not a signature required courier.

Icemaestro, how'd you get on? PM me if you haven't been to court yet and you want a spectator - I'd like me meet these turkeys.

[sil3nt]

The domain name was registered by Prudhvi Gaddipati and an address for this person isn't hard to find.

[Icemaestro]

Wasnt it you methane who I sent the details to a little while ago?? My small claims hearing is on the 25th ..,don't think your allowed spectators lol. My main concern is them not paying up after the small claims...

[Rehab]

Although he has agreed to accept my return and refund me, I still believe this guy needs to have a good hard look at the way he deals. Almost not worth the hassle.

How's this for continuing hassle? FFS I am sick of these fucking dicks :angry:

Hello Prudhvi,

As you know, the package I returned to your company Race Evolution in Dec 2011 has gone missing and is presumed to have been lost by NZ Post. I lodged an inquiry and request for compensation with NZ Post on Jan 4th 2012. On that date they sent a letter to Race Evolution requesting you to confirm that you have not received the parcel. They sent a similar letter to me on the same date, which I received on 5th Jan.

Today I have received a further letter from NZ Post dated 18th Jan. They state that they have not had a reply from Race Evolution confirming that the parcel was never received. Therefore they are unable to continue the enquiry or consider my application for compensation and now deem the matter closed.

Have you sent the letter back to NZ Post confirming you have not received the parcel? If so, on what date? If not, why not and when will you send it?

I would like to get this matter sorted out and be able to claim compensation from NZ Post, but in order to do that I need you to take action quickly. NZ Post have said that, although they have terminated the enquiry, they will reconsider my application for compensation if they hear from you in the near future.

Your urgent attention to this matter is appreciated.

[Rehab]

The domain name was registered by Prudhvi Gaddipati and an address for this person isn't hard to find.

Being a limited company their details are publicly available on the companies register. To save a couple of clicks for anyone who is interested, if you click http://www.business.govt.nz/companies/app/ui/pages/companies/1919489 you get:

Company Addresses:
Registered Office
42 Duncan Street, Dunedin Central, Dunedin, 9016 , New Zealand
Pending address change

Address for service
42 Duncan Street, Dunedin Central, Dunedin, 9016 , New Zealand
Pending address change

Directors Showing 1 of 1 directors

Prudhvi GADDIPATI
11 Connaught St, Blockhouse Bay, Auckland, 0600 , New Zealand

[Cracker]

RaceEvolution are the "Faulty Towers" of the NZ fairings business. I must be one of the few who got a positve financial experience. The invoice they wrote up and I paid was $9 short of what it should have been according to them. The tail fairing for a Ducati track bike was hand finished and average . Its now painted and fits and thats all that matters I quess. It may last 2 or 3 lowsides, as long as I alternate

[Rehab]

RaceEvolution are the "Faulty Towers" of the NZ fairings business.

Think I might be taking a ride to Blockhouse Bay today.....

Dear Prudvhi,

No reply to my email or phone messages? I realise it was an incredibly difficult question and since you run an online business you probably don't really need to attend to telephone or email messages do you? You run a spectacular business with fantatic products and service and I'm going out of my way to tell everyone in the motorcycling fraternity how helpful you are. Thanks heaps for getting back to me so quickly even though I don't really need the money and I've got hours and hours to waste dicking around with this nonsense that has now been going on for 3 months.

Thanks again, you've been a huge help.

All the best,

[Steve Gauge]

yeah go around he would love to see you on a sunday , call it a customer relations exercise :corn:

[Icemaestro]

Do it!! :-p be interesting to see if he turns up to court on Wednesday too...

[Steve Gauge]

if he doesnt show you will win , I think you will win even if he does show take heaps of photos with you its just a pain you had to wait if he doesnt pay I think you can keep dragging him through court especially as you now know his address , are you still in posession of the fairings if so take them with you .
cant wait to hear the details of this day

[jasonu]

People like him are very slippery and it is likely you will never win a court case against him.
Now you know where he lives the only satisfaction you will get is to go around to his house and kick his fucking dick in. (and video it and post it here please)

[Rehab]

Do it!! :-p be interesting to see if he turns up to court on Wednesday too...

Didn't have to in the end. Turns out a pissy message and posting stuff on here may have got his attention! Apparently he rang and left a message with my Dad yesterday. Not sure how he got my Dad's number since he lives in Chch and a bit odd to ring him since I haven't lived in the same house as my parents for 19 years. Good excuse to ring the old man anyway, although he doesn't remember getting a message yesterday?? Must be Alzheimers, which is cruel when you're only 60....

Anyway, the letter will be sent on Monday apparently. I'll ask him if he sent it when I see him on Wednesday, since I hear he'll be at court? Nothing on on that day, so I might come for a look-see. Waitak District is it? Roughly what time Icemaestro? Anyone fancy a ride on Wedenesday? :innocent:

At the end of the voicemail he says "I hope this is the end of it." Fuck mate, me too...... :facepalm:

[Rehab]

For anyone who finds themselves in a position where they need to get money off someone who has been told to pay by the Disputes Tribunal but decides not to obey, these guys are a totally legal option. http://www.auckdistcoll.co.nz/

Their website is covered in pics of the Mafia and they state:

We are debt collectors and private investigators who pride ourselves on a straight forward, zero tolerance approach and make no apologies for this. If a future professional relationship between yourself and your debtors is important, then we are not a wise choice. If results and the recovery of money are important, then we are the only choice.

Auckland District Collections gains its revenue from collecting money on your behalf, not from attempting to collect it.

Funny how fast even the slippery characters will pay up when these lads turn up. I'm just saying.....

[Icemaestro]

Not going to court now, There's a new guy working with them to sort out outstanding problems and change things so they hopefully don't happen again. Sounds like a reasonable guy, and I've received (today) a majority refund :-). From the sounds of things hopefully raceevolution will improve from here on out. Cheers yall.

[Sliver]

just fairings make fairing in NZ, there meant to be good to deal with

[Rehab]

just fairings make fairing in NZ, they're meant to be good to deal with

They are very good to deal with and excellent product too (http://justfairings.co.nz). The guy is a real perfectionist. You'll have to take them elsewhere to get painted, but I'd recommend Mark at Kolorinn Kustom, Glenfield. Also a perfectionist and good prices.

[Rehab]

Not going to court now, There's a new guy working with them to sort out outstanding problems and change things so they hopefully don't happen again. Sounds like a reasonable guy, and I've received (today) a majority refund :-). From the sounds of things hopefully raceevolution will improve from here on out. Cheers yall.

Wonder if that's the guy that called and left messages for me? Definitely wasn't Prudvhi, so assumed it was James but maybe it was this new guy? I've left numerous phone messages for them before and have never ever been phoned, so maybe the new broom is sorting shit out?

Glad to hear you got most of your money back. Unless you got to keep the fairings, it should have been ALL your money IMO, but at least it's over eh?

Things there might improve, but even if they sell bikes made out of naked women I'd shove my helmet up my arse before I'd deal with them again. Considering making a complaint to the Consumers Institute about "deceptive and misleading conduct". If it was made clear that they held no stock and shipped straight from China, you could make your own decision about whether it was worth the risk/time vs price. But that's not the case, since what I believe pisses everyone off more than anything is all the bullshit about being 100% Kiwi owned and Auckland based etc etc when it's a prick in a room with a pc in Auckland and means fuck all in terms of product/delivery/service/comeback.

[Rehab]

I doubt he'll appreciate that being splashed across a public forum.

Dead right. Fixed.

[Steve Gauge]

So ice maestro so they contacted you a day before your court case months after you first complained knowing they would get destroyed in court wanting to settle , im speechless , I hope you didnt thank them- what a bunch of wankers , get a full refund mate

[nzspokes]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/167156-Raceevolution-net-scammers-Help-please?p=1130726499#post1130726499

[Mike.Gayner]

Scamming fuckers. Stay away from these thieves.