BP 98oct

[dangerous]

Ok...... 91oct is a shit fuel, 96oct is a shitter fuel because it is 91 but with more shit additives in it than 91 hence the oct rise.... but as we now have BP98 in Chch for the very 1st time, then I was woundering if its the shitter than shit fuel that is 96 with even MORE shit additives making it shiter than shit fuel...... but well over priced?

Its just that a mate told me BP98 is imported from Aussie because thay cant make it here.... is this true??? if so then I just might give it a spin in the old Storm :ride:

[onearmedbandit]

I filled up both my vehicles with it today (the bike and the truck), I'll let you know if I notice any differences (other than the one in the pocket!!).

[Biff]

I've just filled up with the BP98 Octane motion lotion. $1.40 a litre I believe it was.
It's had brilliant reviews in the UK, cleaner burning, better acceleration etc. Apparently it doesn't use the same sort of shit generally used to raise the octane levels in fuels. But what do I know - I though Madagascar was a nitro injected street rod.

[DingDong]

all pump fuel is crap, you buy 91, you get between 87 and 93... same for everything else, sometimes you get lucky and sometimes you dont.
This is our lot... I use to buy AV-gas (consistant 100 Octane, when I was racing) and mixed it 50/50 with 91... to get somewhere around 96-98.
Some guys ran 100% AV but the cost was 20% higher... Im not a rich man :yes:

Octane boosters are usless too... if your base fuel is inconsistant.

[zadok]

Similar thread been around before. I was using it for a while, then went back to 91 and can't say I noticed any difference. Might depend on the type of bike you have.

[Motu]

we've had BP98 for years in Auck,my XC Falcon would only run on it,my 87 MKIII Escort was so radical it wouldn't run on anything and the 84 Telstar still needs it,I reckon it's a good fuel....but have never run a bike on it,they run ok on 91.

[oldfart]

The 98 we get in NZ is modified Ozzy 98 - because their's didn't meet our regs - so according to BP - they added some shit to make our 98. It's meant to be better than 96 - but then BP would say that wouldn't they. NZ 96 is sort of 91 but has octane boosting agents such zylene which when they 1st brought it out caused all sorts of issues with older vehicles, (it some early card carb parts) & I believe some bikers claimed it ate spark plugs. After the hysteria died down, I don't believe it causes issues with current vehicles. 91's fine also.
AV gas is leaded, so shouldn't really be run in vehicles with catylytic converters. Goes real good in old pre 80's bikes. Had a Z1 I used to run on it - loved the stuff

[poorbastard]

One day when im feeling rich I might try it as for now I can hardly afford bloody 91 with the price increase. Stupid student loan and no money. O to b rich.

[scumdog]

Could be just the stuff for my F100, it use to run ok on the ole leaded super but not on the present crap, need 30% avgas to run any good.

Make sure somebody that give the stuff a shot lets us know, o.k.?

[tl_tub]

... NZ 96 is sort of 91 but has octane boosting agents such zylene which when they 1st brought it out caused all sorts of issues with older vehicles, (it some early card carb parts) ...

I thought it was toluene that was swelling rubber not xylene?

Ive tried 91, 96 and 98 in the 250 and never noticed any difference. I was however told by a truck driver carting fuel that its delivered as that particular octane rating, but the longer it sits in the station tanks, the lower it gets - im not sure how true this is though.

[Motu]

Had lots of complaints,but never had a problem that could be layed on 96...the only swollen fuel hose was windscreenwasher hose someone had used.It was an urban legend.

[Quasievil]

I got $30 worth of 98 yesterday at BP and saw the price (once filled) $1.41 A LITRE FOR FUCKS SAKE!! whats with that bloody expensive. Im still in shock:mad:

the damn dollar is US$.72 and the fuel prices shouls be coming down not up.................................. FUCKERS

[Bonez]

I thought it was toluene that was swelling rubber not xylene?

Ive tried 91, 96 and 98 in the 250 and never noticed any difference. I was however told by a truck driver carting fuel that its delivered as that particular octane rating, but the longer it sits in the station tanks, the lower it gets - im not sure how true this is though.Haven't noticed much of a difference either. Still around the same performance, economy etc. Fuel seems to go off quicker these days. After around a month plus of sitting, happens when you have a few cikles to choose from, I generally flush a bit though the carbs, by opening the drain screws, before even trying to fire them up.

[Lou Girardin]

It's irrelevant for bikes designed to run on 91. But my blown MX5 did like the 98 octane, I could run 5 degrees more advance and higher boost.

[Slim]

I got $30 worth of 98 yesterday at BP and saw the price (once filled) $1.41 A LITRE FOR FUCKS SAKE!! whats with that bloody expensive. Im still in shock:mad:

the damn dollar is US$.72 and the fuel prices shouls be coming down not up.................................. FUCKERS
I think you might need to get an exorcism on your new house, Quasi. :no: I'm detecting that you're picking up some serious bad vibes from somewhere & that's the only recent change in your environment, so get yourself down to your local Catholic church & drag the priest round to yours to sort it out! :devil2:

[Gixxer 4 ever]

I ran the 1996 gixxer on 98 for a while. When the price went up I went back to 91. It runs fine on 91. Can be very erratic at times. Must be different mixes of fuel. I have lined up a tune from time to time but when I have got the next fill of fuel from a different station she runs like a dream. :weird:
So on the road I recon stick to 91. Different story on the track.

[vifferman]

The 98 we get in NZ is modified Ozzy 98 - because their's didn't meet our regs - so according to BP - they added some shit to make our 98. It's meant to be better than 96 - but then BP would say that wouldn't they. NZ 96 is sort of 91 but has octane boosting agents such zylene which when they 1st brought it out caused all sorts of issues with older vehicles, (it some early card carb parts) & I believe some bikers claimed it ate spark plugs. After the hysteria died down, I don't believe it causes issues with current vehicles.
Mostly correct.
They add xylene and toluene to the 91 to get 96, and it does cause problems. WHen I ran it in my VFR750, it very quickly started to run like it had water in the carbs. Turned out that it sooted up the teeny-tiny sparkplug electrodes.
On earlier vehicles, the 'new' unleaded also caused problems with some rubber components that weren't nitrile rubber, whereas most hoses, gaskets etc. now are resistant to being eaten by the paintbrush cleaner in the petrol.

Dangerous - I wouldn't bother running the 98 in your 'Storm - it won't run any better, but may lose a bit of power. If you want to stick it in anyway, mix it with some 91, so the octane rating doesn't go too high.

I've had the VFR since November now, and I can say it's much happier on either a mixture of 91 and 98, or just straight 98. On the 91, it tends to run less smoothly at low/constant throttle openings, and surprisingly, there's no discernible power loss on the 98. When I put the latest tankful of 98 in, after one of 91 with some 98, and one of only 91, it actually felt more lively, which is not what I was expecting. Of course, this is subjective, but it seemed to lift the front wheel more readily, and was definitely smoother. However, when I tried 98 in the VTR1000 and the VFR750, both performed slightly worse on the 98 than on 91.

[JohnBoy]

it goes really well in my bike in fact when i was racing i used it. but my bike is an older carb sports bike so it runs better on the higher octane stuff.

we have got it at the local now and the guys at work reckon its the go. they reckon they can notice the diff but hey, if your paying an extra 4-5c per litre it better be good!

[Toast]

When I first got my bike (2002 ZX6R, carb'd), I ran it on 91. After a while though, it felt a touch lumpy, and didn't start as nicely. I changed to 98, and it was noticeably better. It started better in the mornings and settled in to a nice idle better, and seemed to rev smoother.

One day I felt cheap and started using 91 again, and again it deteriorated. Back on 98, much better again. So, I'm sticking with it.

Apparently it is a better grade of fuel than the 96 and 91, minus the (carbed) bike unfriendly additives, which can apparently leave a red kinda jelly in the carbs (?).

[Motu]

My Falcon pinged really bad at higher speeds,which was unusual,and needed octane boosters for a trip,when BP Ultimate came out it ran like it was on 108 octane booster - but we found if you had to fill with 96 somewhere out of Auckland,it still ran ok for a couple more tanks,whatever it did had a lasting effect.

[dangerous]

Dangerous - I wouldn't bother running the 98 in your 'Storm - it won't run any better, but may lose a bit of power. If you want to stick it in anyway, mix it with some 91, so the octane rating doesn't go too high.
However, when I tried 98 in the VTR1000 and the VFR750, both performed slightly worse on the 98 than on 91.
Interesting...... I thought that a higer compresioned bike like a twin 1000 over a muilti 1000 that reves a shit lot harder would benifit from a higher oct fuel?

Also I have ran the Storm on Ave gas several times on the track.... and I swear it goes beter and thats 100oct.... your thoughts sir

[WINJA]

MY RACE BIKE PULLED HIGHER TERMINAL SPEED AND HAD BETTER ACCELERATION ON 91 OPPOSED TO 96, IT DID PING OFF THE MARK ON 91 BUT RACES ONLY HAVE ONE START, THE BIKE HAD STOCK COMPRESSION AND ADVANCE,I HAVE FOUND CARBURATED BIKES RUN BEST ON THE LOWEST OCTANE YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH, IF A BIKE HAS A KNOCK SENSOR THIS MIGHT NOT BE THE CASE, I DID NOT VERIFY IT ON THE DYNO BUT AGAINST OTHER RACE BIKES, A DYNO CAN BE MISSLEADING ON A RAM AIR BIKE AS IT CAN RUN RICH ON THE DYNO