So hypothetically, you find yourself being chased by a helicopter

[McWild]

Leaving out many of the more interesting particulars, we'll say for this point of interest that, for whatever reason, NZ's finest wants you to pull over to the side of the road.

You have chosen to ignore their polite request, because fuck it, you got knee down on the track. Once. Dispatching these assholes should be a piece of cake right?


WRONG.


They've decided that your deeds are cartoonishly mischievous enough to warrant calling in a police helicopter. Well, fuck. What's your next move? Is there no running from the eyes in the skies? Or do you have a place to run to where you think they won't see you?

What comes now then, ye heroes of KB?

[Usarka]

Hypothetically your best option is to vamose before the copter sees you.

PS - failing that, head for the subway, ride down the stairs and along the tracks. Works every time on GTA4.

[avgas]

Rob a police station. They will never see it coming.

[White trash]

WTF? And where did that little tirade come from?

When the fuck did KB get so PC and fun police anyway?

And yeah, I can quite comfortably outrun a Police helicopter on my R1 thanks very much. Check the specs.

[Beren]

LOL - Ok having put on my trusty Keyboard Warrior hat...

First trick would be ensuring that you keep moving fast and vary your route. from above the chopper would be able to direct Coppers to place roadblocks in front of your route if it is predictable.

Then it would depend a little on the straight line speed of the bike - if you are on a real monster there is a strong possibility that you can go faster than a chopper in a straight line. Standard helicopters top out at around 140mph... so you could potentially out run it on a straight stretch long enough stop under an overpass and watch them shoot past.

Option two is trying to get to an area that the chopper can't get good visibility into - if the coppers have just seen the bike and don't know what you look like then I would be hooning through traffic in the CBD to a narrow alley/disused covered area. Dump bike change out of leathers as fast as possible and wander quietly away.

There ya go :)

[McWild]

WTF? And where did that little tirade come from?

When the fuck did KB get so PC and fun police anyway?

And yeah, I can quite comfortably outrun a Police helicopter on my R1 thanks very much. Check the specs.

Bad day? It's a question, not a tirade.

I never thought I'd see a thread about running from police choppers called "PC and fun police" but I guess there's a first time for everything.

[White trash]

Bad day? It's a question, not a tirade.

I never thought I'd see a thread about running from police choppers called "PC and fun police" but I guess there's a first time for everything.

Lol. I fogot to add I'd pull out my nine and fire off a couple of rounds at the flying oinksters.

[McWild]

Lol. I fogot to add I'd pull out my nine and fire off a couple of rounds at the flying oinksters.

That's the spirit!




Personally the best tactic I've heard of is going to the airport, as other air traffic aren't allowed in the vicinity. Anyone think this would work in real life?

[Str8 Jacket]

I have been chased by the police whilst riding an RG a couple of times myself, shit magnets those tings I tells ya......

I have nothing further to add BTW.

[martybabe]

I ain't so bothered about helicopters but I tend to run away from flying things in general, wasps bees, oh and this thing, if the police used one of these I would surrender on site.

TURN UP THE VOLUME, stick with it and prepare to surrender everything you have.

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[Usarka]

That's the spirit!




Personally the best tactic I've heard of is going to the airport, as other air traffic aren't allowed in the vicinity. Anyone think this would work in real life?

Lot's of cops, security and cameras at airports so if they've got you in their sights they'd just radio it in. Having said that if they're locked on you probly don't have many better options (other than the subway).

....unless you can ride under the flight path close to the airport while a heavy is on final.

[unstuck]

They dont have police helicopters down this way. C YA.:bye::bye:

[jim.cox]

Go for the trees

Head to the nearest park

Ditch the bike

Take a walk

(or car park building, or shop verandah - it aint hard to find a place where flying pigs can't see)

[\m/]

Steal a speedboat, go out a few kms, then stop the boat, pull out your rocket launcher and shoot down the flying pigs.

[Str8 Jacket]

They dont have police helicopters down this way. C YA.:bye::bye:

Yes, but do they not teach you that helicopters can fly?

[White trash]

On a serious note, I've personally watched 14 minutes of night footage from eagle of a fairly well known Auckland sportsbike rider unknowingly being tracked by the chopper while he's doing a runner.

The thermal imaging is almost impossible to escape. To the point where the cop car brake heat obscures anything else you can see from the car. It's farkin cooooooool footage too.

[unstuck]

Yes, but do they not teach you that helicopters can fly?

By the time they got a police helicopter down this way i would be at home watching cops.:yes:

[Murray]

Lyttleton tunnel is your friend

[Usarka]

The thermal imaging is almost impossible to escape. To the point where the cop car brake heat obscures anything else you can see from the car. It's farkin cooooooool footage too.

Yeah if they've got you on thermal you're pretty much fucked.

Unless you can find a KB group ride to merge in with! Extra bonus is they'll have to attend to the next person who bins.

[bogan]

I ain't so bothered about helicopters but I tend to run away from flying things in general, wasps bees, oh and this thing, if the police used one of these I would surrender on site.

TURN UP THE VOLUME, stick with it and prepare to surrender everything you have.

farrrrrkkkkk that's cool, and you just know the youtube aint doing the real life sound justice. How do I make my bike sound like that? :innocent:

Helicopters eh, best way would be to find a bike rally and blend in I reckon. Or have an almighty crash with a big fire that flares their thermal imaging, and while they are blinded, throw all your gear onto the fire, and act like a bystander :whistle:

[Maha]

A cop once said to 27 riders that ''I wont chase any of you for two reasons 1) cant stand the paper work an 2) not interested in scraping you off the road, I'll just call in the police helicopter''...imagine that?..a cop copter on a Maha ride..:facepalm:
Some riders brief that was....thanks Scouse.:corn:

[steve_t]

Find a multi-storey building you can ride into, like a hospital, and hide in the ceiling space, naked :gob:

[Katman]

Jaunt to another dimension.

[jaffaonajappa]

Say a cop choppa can fly at 200kmh.
How the hell do you just Gas it and out speed them? Which roads are you talking about? Cos if its got bends or traffic on it - the cops taking the direct and shorter route - your not. I mean.
If your outrunning a cop choppa - youve proly done something realllllly really bad. And your going to look at other options to escape justice (or whatever) - Im thinking something that involves you hoping off your bike perhaps near a shopping mall - mixing in the crowds and ditching ur bike gears? And if the bikes in your name - your still screwed.

[slofox]

I ain't so bothered about helicopters but I tend to run away from flying things in general, wasps bees, oh and this thing, if the police used one of these I would surrender on site.

TURN UP THE VOLUME, stick with it and prepare to surrender everything you have.




Some time waaaaay back in the mid fifties, one of these things flew over our school - at a height that didn't seem, at the time, to be much more than in that footage although I bet it was. The sound as I recall it was similar too. Although it didn't suddenly roll it all on as it passed over.

Heard later that it crashed on landing when it got back home...

Cool aeroplane.

[Grasshopperus]

They dont have police helicopters down this way. C YA.:bye::bye:

But they'll know it was the village motorcyclist.

[Ender EnZed]

Ride under a big tree. Then climb the tree. They won't look for you there.

[The Stranger]

Lol. I fogot to add I'd pull out my nine and fire off a couple of rounds at the flying oinksters.

Just hit them with that green laser again.

[Oakie]

Some time waaaaay back in the mid fifties, one of these things flew over our school - at a height that didn't seem, at the time, to be much more than in that footage although I bet it was. The sound as I recall it was similar too. Although it didn't suddenly roll it all on as it passed over.

Cool aeroplane.

I remember them also doing it about 1972ish and watching them fly over while I was at Intermediate. It may have been the farewell flight.

[The Stranger]

Leaving out many of the more interesting particulars, we'll say for this point of interest that, for whatever reason, NZ's finest wants you to pull over to the side of the road.

You have chosen to ignore their polite request, because fuck it, you got knee down on the track. Once. Dispatching these assholes should be a piece of cake right?


WRONG.


They've decided that your deeds are cartoonishly mischievous enough to warrant calling in a police helicopter. Well, fuck. What's your next move? Is there no running from the eyes in the skies? Or do you have a place to run to where you think they won't see you?

What comes now then, ye heroes of KB?

So as a matter of interest, how many police choppers do they have?
What's the cost of keeping one of those things in the air for an hour?

[unstuck]

So as a matter of interest, how many police choppers do they have?
What's the cost of keeping one of those things in the air for an hour?

Couple of grand an hour.:yes:

[The Stranger]

Couple of grand an hour.:yes:

We're all fucked then! Obviously then it's well worth sending a chopper to save a villianous speeding motorcyclist from themselves.

[Maha]

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[steve_t]

......

Wow, those cops were fast! Don't they have donuts or pies in the UK? :corn:

[Oakie]

Oh, as regards the original question ... I'd find a large parking building attached to a mall or somesuch then park and disappear.

[Maha]

Say a cop choppa can fly at 200kmh.
How the hell do you just Gas it and out speed them? Which roads are you talking about? Cos if its got bends or traffic on it - the cops taking the direct and shorter route - your not. I mean.
If your outrunning a cop choppa - youve proly done something realllllly really bad. And your going to look at other options to escape justice (or whatever) - Im thinking something that involves you hoping off your bike perhaps near a shopping mall - mixing in the crowds and ditching ur bike gears? And if the bikes in your name - your still screwed.

Even the the pilot remarks ''hes going faster that we are''.

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[Kickaha]

Oh, as regards the original question ... I'd find a large parking building attached to a mall or somesuch then park and disappear.

We're running out of those in Christchurch


Even the the pilot remarks ''he going faster that we are''.


They have the advantage of altitude though, you can see a long way from up high

[specter]

pfft, screw all your ideas......

you just need to think with portals :innocent:

[HenryDorsetCase]

Is the copter an AH-64?

If its an AH-64 I'm pulling over.

SL2ECPC4_RA

If it's not I would go to the nearest tunnel, then get a car and drive the car at a tollbooth so that when the car hits the tollbooth it goes up in the air, hits the helicopter and explodes it.

Yeah, I'm Bruce Willis. Yippee Kai Yay motherfuckers.

[JimO]

Lol. I fogot to add I'd pull out my nine and fire off a couple of rounds at the flying oinksters.

fuck off!! you havnt got a nine inch cock

[HenryDorsetCase]

fuck off!! you havnt got a nine inch cock

I'd only use the first half of mine for that too.

[unstuck]

Try pullin me over now plodder.:woohoo:

[tigertim20]

Leaving out many of the more interesting particulars, we'll say for this point of interest that, for whatever reason, NZ's finest wants you to pull over to the side of the road.

You have chosen to ignore their polite request, because fuck it, you got knee down on the track. Once. Dispatching these assholes should be a piece of cake right?


WRONG.


They've decided that your deeds are cartoonishly mischievous enough to warrant calling in a police helicopter. Well, fuck. What's your next move? Is there no running from the eyes in the skies? Or do you have a place to run to where you think they won't see you?

What comes now then, ye heroes of KB?

the infra red and heat detecting sht means youre fucked.

UNLESS you have a machine gun turret on the back of your bike which is operated by an extra switchblock on the handlebars.

OR, the police call Katman, who tells them, it doesnt matter, anyone riding over 101km/hr is a fucking lunatic, and is not capable of riding without endangering their own life, and theyll probably kill themselves anyway in a bad crash.
Then your family sues the government for a police chase that killed you, and the government fines the council who allowed a dangerously places bus stop that killed the rider on impact when he went for a slide, and Katman starts a thread on KB about how its all the riders fucking fault cos he is a dumb cunt
The end.

[DrunkenMistake]

the infra red and heat detecting sht means youre fucked.

UNLESS you have a machine gun turret on the back of your bike which is operated by an extra switchblock on the handlebars.

OR, the police call Katman, who tells them, it doesnt matter, anyone riding over 101km/hr is a fucking lunatic, and is not capable of riding without endangering their own life, and theyll probably kill themselves anyway in a bad crash.
Then your family sues the government for a police chase that killed you, and the government fines the council who allowed a dangerously places bus stop that killed the rider on impact when he went for a slide, and Katman starts a thread on KB about how its all the riders fucking fault cos he is a dumb cunt
The end.

Hahahaha, Call Katman, he will talk the Theoretical rider out of riding over the speed limit, that or bore him to death with repetitive whining.

[oldrider]

Leaving out many of the more interesting particulars, we'll say for this point of interest that, for whatever reason, NZ's finest wants you to pull over to the side of the road.

You have chosen to ignore their polite request, because fuck it, you got knee down on the track. Once. Dispatching these assholes should be a piece of cake right?


WRONG.


They've decided that your deeds are cartoonishly mischievous enough to warrant calling in a police helicopter. Well, fuck. What's your next move? Is there no running from the eyes in the skies? Or do you have a place to run to where you think they won't see you?

What comes now then, ye heroes of KB?

There's only one failing in attracting the attention of the Police and then trying to avoid them:

It's what they do (and get paid for) whether they are any good at it or not and they have oodles of back up, whereas you are just "you"!

Rust never sleeps it just keeps on keeping on until the arse falls out of whoever you are and suddenly you are the victim of your own bad idea!

Attracting attention and running is about as intelligent as a fly on the window pane.

No matter how hard he tries, or how good he gets at it, he will still be there in the morning! :doh:

[Katman]

Hahahaha, Call Katman, he will talk the Theoretical rider out of riding over the speed limit, that or bore him to death with repetitive whining.

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[jaffaonajappa]

Even the the pilot remarks ''hes going faster that we are''.

....

Damnnnnn that guy took intersection turns Fasssst.
And yeah - plane kept up with him easy as - once corners/traffic became a consideration.

[BMWST?]

WTF? And where did that little tirade come from?

When the fuck did KB get so PC and fun police anyway?

And yeah, I can quite comfortably outrun a Police helicopter on my R1 thanks very much. Check the specs.

wrong,you have to follow the road,they can fly as the crow flys The westpac rescue copter has a max cruising speed of 250 ks(max 278) I would say he would have no trouble keeping up with a r1 trying to get out of the hutt valley

[DrunkenMistake]

wrong,you have to follow the road,they can fly as the crow flys The westpac rescue copter has a max cruising speed of 250 ks(max 278) I would say he would have no trouble keeping up with a r1 trying to get out of the hutt valley

I bet a Harley could do it.

On a straight road.

With no traffic..

or wind..

or gravity..

[ellipsis]

.......I bought an interesting little device from my favourite chinese site...it turns my bike into a bush and whoever is on it into the shadows between the branches of the bush...i haven't had to use it yet...way down our way there is only a red and a black helicopter..i think..and im sure they wouldnt lend it to the police...they must know how they drive things...:yes:

[Dodgy]

Ride into an airport control zone? With all the other aircraft in the vicinity, they may be denied entry in order to spot you. They do need to be carfeul with this as the Auckland police helicopter found a few years ago that flying into a fixed wing is not a good idea.

[White trash]

wrong,you have to follow the road,they can fly as the crow flys The westpac rescue copter has a max cruising speed of 250 ks(max 278) I would say he would have no trouble keeping up with a r1 trying to get out of the hutt valley

My R1 does 298kph mate. And if I needed extra pace, I'd just tuck into my mate Kerry's slipstream!

[Hoon]

Ride into an airport control zone? With all the other aircraft in the vicinity, they may be denied entry in order to spot you.
The Airport escape would maybe only work for busy airports. Even then only a maybe. On Emergency 111, the westpac helicopter was able to fly through Auckland airport airspace at 500ft after requesting clearance.

Tunnels are no good. They'll just wait at either end and then hunt you down as you cower in some dark corner. Likewise with a shopping mall unless you are planning on ditching your ride. If thats the case then fuck that I'd just pull over and take the tickets rather than lose a $xx,000 bike. So if I were fleeing to evade tickets i.e. a moment of stupidy, its hard justify any situation where the reward outweighs the risk and resulting punishment/loss of bike.

However if I were fleeing to escape a premeditated more serious crime say robbing a bank, I would prepare for this beforehand and have a van waiting at a covered location with no witnesses, say the far corner of a shopping mall carpark building and just ride my bike into the back and drive off to the next vehicle swap location. For completeness it would be a day pissing with rain and the bike would be a motard fitted with wets.

[monkey99]

Yeah if they've got you on thermal you're pretty much fucked.

Unless you can find a KB group ride to merge in with! Extra bonus is they'll have to attend to the next person who bins.

Make like a British tank and build some Flare launchers :yes: on the rear tail... I think it might be an optional accessory for most 'Rich guy boats' and Harleys :shutup:

Drive to heavily traffic zones and fire off a couple when they are following behind - Blinds the geezer on the thermal scope and will give you some time to vamoose... maybe :rockon:

[MarkH]

Jaunt to another dimension.

Wow, that brings back memories - it's been a few decades since I saw 'The Tomorrow People'.

[Usarka]

My R1 does 298kph mate.

Hypothetically of course.

[Scouse]

farrrrrkkkkk that's cool, and you just know the youtube aint doing the real life sound justice. How do I make my bike sound like that? :innocent:

Helicopters eh, best way would be to find a bike rally and blend in I reckon. Or have an almighty crash with a big fire that flares their thermal imaging, and while they are blinded, throw all your gear onto the fire, and act like a bystander :whistle:Quite freeky though after he applied full power the thing was still sinking

[Maha]

A cop once said to 27 riders that ''I wont chase any of you for two reasons 1) cant stand the paper work an 2) not interested in scraping you off the road, I'll just call in the police helicopter''...imagine that?..a cop copter on a Maha ride..:facepalm:
Some riders brief that was....thanks Scouse.:corn:


Quite freeky though after he applied full power the thing was still sinking

Remember this day Steve?

[Dschubba]

Find some high tension wires are zig zag a lot underneath them

[schrodingers cat]

Bad day? It's a question, not a tirade.

I never thought I'd see a thread about running from police choppers called "PC and fun police" but I guess there's a first time for everything.

If in doubt - escalate!

[The Pastor]

This is an interesting question, and one that needs serrious debate.

I have often wondered about this myself, as I do partake in the odd runner now and then. In my opinion I think it depends on the situation.

If the bike is registered to you, then you have a hard time.

If its stolen, then i'd try and get into a carparking building, like ateoa square, ditch the bike, then get onto queen street asap.

if you're out in the country, you probably have the best opertunity, as it would take at least 20mins from when the police start chasing to when a chopper could be in the air. If you cant out run a pig in 20mins, you shouldn't be doing runners.

I do like the airport idea, i think it has merit. if you could ditch the bike then jump in a taxi, you might be able to get away.

[jaffaonajappa]

Gawd. Im blaming Hollywood....and James Bond.

[Camshaft]

those things have mean heat sensors and people always go so far away where there the onli person around, hide and get caught. if its at the stage where theyve got the chopper out, ur in big shit. you gotta go somewhere very public and park the pike up thn blend into the crowd. ring the police and report the bike stolen.

[captain_andrey]

I have actually thought about same question.

The conclusion I came up with is, if its your bike you are pretty much screwed, one read of your plate and you might as well give up.

The real fun is considering its not your bike. Here in Wellington I would surely go for the airport. Its in a perfect location to cut off the helicopter due to the large restricted airspace, and any cars on your tail. I would consider using the pedestrian only tunnel from Rongotai then gunning it to the covered car park. Dump all your gear, catch a cab, pray they dont have time to seal off everything.

Alternatively go through for Miramar, heli and cops will be stuck on the other side of the airport as you have just, effectively rode right though it. Dump your gear once you have cover from the heli and catch the bus back to the city.

The other interesting thing I considered is if I had time to prepare for such a scenario, say a bank heist. Keeping a van at the airport car park, riding into the back and driving out :)

I think the key to getting away on a bike in wellington is knowing the area well especially the pedestrian only paths.

[Scouse]

Remember this day Steve?

Yer that was me wasn't it

[Scouse]

My R1 does 298kph mate. And if I needed extra pace, I'd just tuck into my mate Kerry's slipstream!

250kts is way faster than 298kph you fookin cheese nob

[Oblivion]

250kts is way faster than 298kph you fookin cheese nob

The new helichoppers that the Airforce got have a top speed of 154 knots.(285kmph) So even if you do go 298kmph, I dont see you getting away in an awful hurry.

[Hopeful Bastard]

Or you could try this...

http://www.bebo.com/c/video?FlashBoxId=3575278752


Watch right to the end hahaa. Dont need a Bebo account to watch.

[Ricardo S]

I have actually thought about same question.

The conclusion I came up with is, if its your bike you are pretty much screwed, one read of your plate and you might as well give up.

The real fun is considering its not your bike. Here in Wellington I would surely go for the airport. Its in a perfect location to cut off the helicopter due to the large restricted airspace, and any cars on your tail. I would consider using the pedestrian only tunnel from Rongotai then gunning it to the covered car park. Dump all your gear, catch a cab, pray they dont have time to seal off everything.

Alternatively go through for Miramar, heli and cops will be stuck on the other side of the airport as you have just, effectively rode right though it. Dump your gear once you have cover from the heli and catch the bus back to the city.

The other interesting thing I considered is if I had time to prepare for such a scenario, say a bank heist. Keeping a van at the airport car park, riding into the back and driving out :)

I think the key to getting away on a bike in wellington is knowing the area well especially the pedestrian only paths.


you did thought it through huh? what's next bank or jewelery? lol

[Ender EnZed]

I have actually thought about same question.

The conclusion I came up with is, if its your bike you are pretty much screwed, one read of your plate and you might as well give up.

The real fun is considering its not your bike. Here in Wellington I would surely go for the airport. Its in a perfect location to cut off the helicopter due to the large restricted airspace, and any cars on your tail. I would consider using the pedestrian only tunnel from Rongotai then gunning it to the covered car park. Dump all your gear, catch a cab, pray they dont have time to seal off everything.

Alternatively go through for Miramar, heli and cops will be stuck on the other side of the airport as you have just, effectively rode right though it. Dump your gear once you have cover from the heli and catch the bus back to the city.

The other interesting thing I considered is if I had time to prepare for such a scenario, say a bank heist. Keeping a van at the airport car park, riding into the back and driving out :)

I think the key to getting away on a bike in wellington is knowing the area well especially the pedestrian only paths.

And then move to Sweden? I see you have this well planned.

[1billyboy]

Some time waaaaay back in the mid fifties, one of these things flew over our school - at a height that didn't seem, at the time, to be much more than in that footage although I bet it was. The sound as I recall it was similar too. Although it didn't suddenly roll it all on as it passed over.

Heard later that it crashed on landing when it got back home...

Cool aeroplane.

I to saw it when it came over our school:woohoo:

[Ricardo S]

And then move to Sweden? I see you have this well planned.


mmm Swedish girls

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IKAx782HQ9g/RrNX6as1XLI/AAAAAAAABBg/qLgQjEgBHwk/s400/swedish_girls_01.jpg

[captain_andrey]

mmm Swedish girls



Can confirm they are as advertised. :)

[racefactory]

You will fucking know about it when the EAGLE is called in. However the only way out of this situation is to make some ground fast and before eagle tracks down on you, take a detour off the side of the road into some bush out of sight and lay the bike down. Come back to get it another night.

[superman]

No one has stated the most obvious... RPG!

[scumdog]

No one has stated the most obvious... RPG!

You know, in the heat of the moment I forget about that item in my saddle-bag...

[Spearfish]

Have a side car waiting under a bridge at night or in a tunnel..clip it on, go out the way you came in with a different profile......at least the rpg will be easier to let go from a flat platform:facepalm:

[red mermaid]

This thread is trolling for the next Tui poster.

[Beren]

No one has stated the most obvious... RPG!

[mike myers] Nooo, we need... Sharks with frikken lasers man! *Dr Evil Pose* [/mike myers]

Wonder how fast a Helicopter can accelerate - compared to say one of those turbo charged 300+hp Gixxers... would be a vaguely interesting excercise to work out how long from the bike at a standing start and the helicopter hovering it would take to leave a chopper behind - and therefore what speed you would be doing.

[Newo]

Wonder how fast a Helicopter can accelerate - compared to say one of those turbo charged 300+hp Gixxers... would be a vaguely interesting excercise to work out how long from the bike at a standing start and the helicopter hovering it would take to leave a chopper behind - and therefore what speed you would be doing.

That a valid point actually.

If the Helicopter takes quite a while to accelerate, you could potentially outrun the cars and then perform a well timed stoppie and take off in the opposite direction. Maybe that would give you the distance you need.

I don't think you would actually notice your being watched though. What with the noise of your bike and the wind noise, etc. It's not like your going to be looking up all the time either right?

[Beren]

I don't need to... just past my Lazer equiped shark infested lagoon :)

Your point is why in reality I doubt it would ever work, but seriously... ( oh no wait, what thread are we in? - Right back to jet engine powered, weaponised, stealth bikes...) Unless you saw it you would have no way of hearing it so would try specific chopper evasion tactics.

[superman]

Remember guys we are in NZ here. As far as the police website makes me aware the police only have one helicopter and that's based in Auckland. This helicopter in Auckland has a cruising speed of 200kph. Now if you have a bike capable of 300kph and traffic is light you'd be sorted on the motorway. Pretty much a straight line for a good wollop of distance and going anywhere from 80-100kph faster than the helicopter you could make 5km ground from the chopper in under 4 minutes. :yes:

[scumdog]

Now if you have a bike capable of 300kph and traffic is light you'd be sorted on the motorway. Pretty much a straight line for a good wollop of distance and going anywhere from 80-100kph faster than the helicopter you could make 5km ground from the chopper in under 4 minutes. :yes:

And where is this magic motorway that you can do a sustained 300kph for 4 minutes??

If you're going to troll don't go giving the slack-jawed drooling drongo any ideas...

[paulmac]

. Pretty much a straight line for a good wollop of distance and going anywhere from 80-100kph faster than the helicopter you could make 5km ground from the chopper in under 4 minutes. :yes:

Chopper doesn't need to follow the road tho eh !!

[sugilite]

:sherlock:I'd stop, get off my bike and put on a pair of glasses. Worked for superman with Lois Lane every time. :sherlock:

[MaxCannon]

And where is this magic motorway that you can do a sustained 300kph for 4 minutes??



Hypothetically speaking there's a bit that you could 300kph on for some time.
A couple of bends you'd need to slow down to....oh I don't know, 200 or so to go around properly.
Depending on time of day of course.

Of course I'd never go over the speed limit on the Auckland motorway network.
Cameras and speed traps everywhere.

[jaffaonajappa]

Hypothetically speaking there's a bit that you could 300kph on for some time.
A couple of bends you'd need to slow down to....oh I don't know, 200 or so to go around properly.
Depending on time of day of course.

Of course I'd never go over the speed limit on the Auckland motorway network.
Cameras and speed traps everywhere.

Ya know, if Eagle is chasing you down....you might not need to worry about them speed cameras. really.

And at a 5km distance, if Eagle has you locked on, your still screwed. Its going to catch up to you if ya stay on the highways.

[superman]

Ya know, if Eagle is chasing you down....you might not need to worry about them speed cameras. really.

And at a 5km distance, if Eagle has you locked on, your still screwed. Its going to catch up to you if ya stay on the highways.

Just keep stretching out the distance, all you need to do is keep your ground speed above it's straight line 200kph speed to just keep distance and any more you can do you'll be constantly increasing.

Then just whip a left 90 degree corner along a thick line of trees, so he knows what road you're on but from his distance cannot maintain visual contact due to the trees. Dump your bike somewhere, and run away. BEFORE THE DOGS COME!

[scumdog]

J
Then just whip a left 90 degree corner along a thick line of trees, so he knows what road you're on but from his distance cannot maintain visual contact due to the trees. Dump your bike somewhere, and run away. BEFORE THE DOGS COME!

I guess you could programme your GPS to notify you when approaching a convenient 'long thick line of trees' at 90 degrees to your travel direction?:blink:
(So you can start frying your brakes slowing from 300kph in anticipation of the 90 degree turn)

[Usarka]

Guess what the chopper pilot is going to do if you get on the motorway and go 300kph?

Radio a cop car to cut you off. Road Spikes!


EMMMMMM^^^^^^MMMMMM^^^^^^MMMMMM^^^^^^MMMMM^^^^^MMM MM

[superman]

Guess what the chopper pilot is going to do if you get on the motorway and go 300kph?

Radio a cop car to cut you off. Road Spikes!


EMMMMMM^^^^^^MMMMMM^^^^^^MMMMMM^^^^^^MMMMM^^^^^MMM MM

Not a chance in the world of them doing that. Far too dangerous to road spike a motorcycle. :yes:

[superman]

I guess you could programme your GPS to notify you when approaching a convenient 'long thick line of trees' at 90 degrees to your travel direction?:blink:
(So you can start frying your brakes slowing from 300kph in anticipation of the 90 degree turn)

I wasn't being detailed about it was I?

It could be a casual left hand bend, as long as the road lies perpindicular to the direction of helicopter travel and the sooner you can get behind the trees the better.

Eagle ain't got no thermal :woohoo:

[jaffaonajappa]

Eagle ain't got no thermal :woohoo:

Portable thermal imaging gear works well nowadays....and is cheap.
Are you sure?

[Usarka]

Not a chance in the world of them doing that. Far too dangerous to road spike a motorcycle. :yes:

Less dangerous than a squid on a rocket at 300kph on the busiest road in the country being chased by Roy Scheider in blue thunder and rossco P coltraine and enus bringing up the rear on the ground going hell for leather aftter the general Lee?

[unstuck]

Ghostrider does. Dare you to,go on.Heres what you really should do. Up the northen motorway as fast as possible, turn off at lonely track rd, left onto east coast rd,fang it down here until you get to haigh acsess rd over the walkway bridge into the okura reserve,run through the bush to the point, swim across the okura river into okura steal a car and then drive back into town. TOO EASY.:yes:

[jaffaonajappa]

Ghostrider does. Dare you to,go on.Heres what you really should do. Up the northen motorway as fast as possible, turn off at lonely track rd, left onto east coast rd,fang it down here until you get to haigh acsess rd over the walkway bridge into the okura reserve,run through the bush to the point, swim across the okura river into okura steal a car and then drive back into town. TOO EASY.:yes:

Damn. Thats detailed. Youve thought this through!!!!

[scumdog]

IS there anywhere in NZ that 15 kilometres can be covered as a consistant 300kh?

And that 6.6km lead on the chopper would be eaten up p.d.q. as you brake to get at right-angles to original direction of travel.

(being bored and childish here)

[superman]

IS there anywhere in NZ that 15 kilometres can be covered as a consistant 300kh?

And that 6.6km lead on the chopper would be eaten up p.d.q. as you brake to get at right-angles to original direction of travel.

(being bored and childish here)

Well what are your superior ideas in this hypothetical situation then?

[superman]

Portable thermal imaging gear works well nowadays....and is cheap.
Are you sure?

Maybe they do and are just being sneaky, they have night vision. I'm just getting this from the police website so maybe they have rockets on it as well as a machine gun that we know not of.

[unstuck]

Damn. Thats detailed. Youve thought this through!!!!

Tried it,damn choppers are good. Shhhh.:innocent:

[scumdog]

Well what are your superior ideas then in this hypothetical situation then?


Hypothetically I'd weigh the odds for a second or two.

And stop anyway.

My Superglide won't do 300kph.

[Usarka]

Head for the Waikato (never thought I'd ever say that).

Plenty of fog.

[Latte]

Head for the Waikato (never thought I'd ever say that).

Plenty of fog.

So just call time when you need to stop for gas? :chase:

[MarkH]

Into the CBD, into an underground parking building, ditch the bike, ditch the leathers & helmet, casually exit the building before the cops arrive and walk into the midst of the biggest crowd you can find - if the heli does have thermal imaging it won't help them in that situation.

This works best if it's a stolen bike, otherwise you'd better report your bike stolen ASAP.

[unstuck]

And your leathers and helmet too.:yes:

[rustyrobot]

And your leathers and helmet too.:yes:

No no - you just need reversible leathers, with tweed on the inside - viola! instant hipster suit.

The underground carpark is a great idea. I work at the hospital and there are 4 lifts that exit the carpark, which go to 4 different buildings with 3 or 4 public accessible levels each.

[scumdog]

Into the CBD, into an underground parking building, ditch the bike, ditch the leathers & helmet, casually exit the building before the cops arrive and walk into the midst of the biggest crowd you can find - if the heli does have thermal imaging it won't help them in that situation.

This works best if it's a stolen bike, otherwise you'd better report your bike stolen ASAP.


The biggest flaw in THAT plan is the rider.

Most people doing runners aren't that cool, calm and collected - let alone thinking.

[MarkH]

The biggest flaw in THAT plan is the rider.

Most people doing runners aren't that cool, calm and collected - let alone thinking.

Yes, but hypothetically I find myself in that situation and also hypothetically I am as cool as James Bond - so hypothetically, no worries!

[mikeey01]

Tatical advantage, remove this from the heli and your well, you get the picture.

[jamov13]

This tactic might be different. IF you could get help (phone / radio.. however) then I'd have someone attempt to get the chopper redirected/pulled off. There's only one right? So have a good mate call in saying some story. Maybe something like.. "I think I just saw a cop get shot badly and I think the bad guys still hanging around at... [the other end of city]".

Some redirection tactic might work better than 300+kph straight lining it and hoping for cover.

...and if a few mates could be riding at a meet up point then that would help throw off cars too.
I like the idea of ditching the bike in a safe location asap and legging it too (to perhaps a mate in a car).

I'd stay away from car parks and the motorways I think... too many cameras.

...that's all hypothetically, I'd never speed :)

[Tigadee]

Or do you have a place to run to where you think they won't see you?

Find a big bush to stash your bike and kit behind or in, then walk away casually :whistle: . You might find your gear missing next day but bike might still be there...

[jamov13]

Another creative tactic could be to swing by the Mount Roskill / Sandringham areas.

There's a high probably that some new sleeper immigrant will launch an RPG at the thing.

Job done.

[Edbear]

Just out of curiosity, how many have successfully escaped a Police chopper? Surprising how much info they can get about the rider/driver by the time said person stops and tries to leg it...

[Glowerss]

Just out of curiosity, how many have successfully escaped a Police chopper? Surprising how much info they can get about the rider/driver by the time said person stops and tries to leg it...

The original Ghostrider did a few times. Just rode next to the airport. Police can't enter into controlled airspace without heaps of prior arranging.

Helps not to have a number plate on ya bike when yer doin a runna. A turbocharged Busa doesn't hurt either. :devil2:

[Edbear]

The original Ghostrider did a few times. Just rode next to the airport. Police can't enter into controlled airspace without heaps of prior arranging.

Helps not to have a number plate on ya bike when yer doin a runna. A turbocharged Busa doesn't hurt either. :devil2:

Yeah, but he's the exception to just about every rule in the book. And a bit mental as well, which probably helps... :weird:

[Tigadee]

:no: I could never escape the police chopper, especially once it starts dropping the bombs or EMP missile on me... in Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit.

[p.dath]

Apparently small hand held lasers imported from China are dangerous to flying aircraft?

[scumdog]

Apparently small hand held lasers imported from China are dangerous to flying aircraft?

Why?

Were people throwing them at the aircraft?

[Road kill]

Too easy.
First off I stop the mighty Saint,which would only take 200 yards due to the exellent 10" ventilated drum up front,and because I wouldn't want to arrive back at the Enterprise still doing,,,,,90mph.

Then I pull out my trusty communicator and say "beam me up Scotty".

Failing that,,claimming insanity seems to work pretty good now days,,,,an I doubt they'd argue the point once they met me.

[Akzle]

Is there no running from the eyes in the skies? Or do you have a place to run to where you think they won't see you?

What comes now then, ye heroes of KB?

travel past/through restricted airspace - a gliders club, airport, aerodrome, tall buildings etc.

[huff3r]

travel past/through restricted airspace - a gliders club, airport, aerodrome, tall buildings etc.

On the right track I think. Safest bet by far is an active volcano. Especially if Tongariro decided to start spewing a bit of ash.

Or go for a military area, by the time they get through the red tape you could be long gone, if you're lucky.

The other thing choppers don't like is mountainous terrain, at speed.

Or just make sure you have access to an access door in a tunnel, preferably a hidden one :eek:
Even better if it's got some beefy underfloor heating, at least 37 degrees worth or more.

Oh and if the Airforce gets involved you are definitely screwed. The NH-90 does 300kph, and has plenty of eyeballs to spot you with, or the Orion could sit at 10,000' on a clear day and watch you pick your nose.

[tbs]

"Eagle to Scumdog, he's too fast down the motorway. We've lost him. What do we do?"

"Scumdog to Eagle, come on Eagle we've been through this. It's KB scenario 4B. Look for a side street with lots of tree cover. He'll be hiding in there. I call it the Superman".


Nice one boys. Now they know all our possible moves.

[Akzle]

...pretty sure it was in the original gone in 60 seconds... what, like 1960?

[Metal Doctor]

if i was gettin chased by a copter, i would turn the flux capacitor on, wind it up to 88mph and 1955 here i come!

or jump my bike at said copter, throw the pilot out the window and fly to Maccers for a big mac!

or just accept the fact i'll be sleeping in a cell that night.(probably this one)

[p.dath]

Why?

Were people throwing them at the aircraft?

The "TV News" keeps reporting how pilots have been temporarily blinded by them. Someone even got prosecuted for it recently.

[Swoop]

Apparently small hand held lasers imported from China are dangerous to flying aircraft?
Correct (http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/local-news/7713144/Laser-light-wielder-immature). But any type of laser pointer can be used.
Some stupid indian retard was shining one at the cockpit of planes on final approach to land (and there are cases of this happening all around the country, not just one airport) which can temporarily blind the pilot. Luckily Mr Indian was caught.

A mate has had mirrors shining sunlight into his cockpit. Not good when it is an A340...

A stuipd thing to be doing and CAA actively works to find these individuals and prosecute whenever possible.

[nzmikey]

On a serious note, I've personally watched 14 minutes of night footage from eagle of a fairly well known Auckland sportsbike rider unknowingly being tracked by the chopper while he's doing a runner.

The thermal imaging is almost impossible to escape. To the point where the cop car brake heat obscures anything else you can see from the car. It's farkin cooooooool footage too.

Would this fine person you are talking about happen to be Mr Lowe ? :chase:

[Muppet]

What a stupid thread. Get a life.

[nzmikey]

Not a chance in the world of them doing that. Far too dangerous to road spike a motorcycle. :yes:

Yeeeaahhh I dunno aye .... Was talking to a tow truck driver the other night & he seemed to think that they were doing that now ..... I told him to go fuck himself .... he did not seem fazed & kept telling me that they do no .

Cant see it myself .... 150 - 230 kph & hit spikes ? fuck that for a joke

[superman]

Yeeeaahhh I dunno aye .... Was talking to a tow truck driver the other night & he seemed to think that they were doing that now ..... I told him to go fuck himself .... he did not seem fazed & kept telling me that they do no .

Cant see it myself .... 150 - 230 kph & hit spikes ? fuck that for a joke

I wonder if he thought they do pit manoeuvre's on bikes too... :facepalm:

[Marmoot]

If you get chased by a helicopter, dig!
Dig deep, then dig even deeper. Chopper can't follow you there.
Unless you come across a balrog, then you have to go up again or else risk a fiery death.

[madandy]

Use a cloak of invisibility.

[kevfromcoro]

i had a mate being chased by one of those helicopters.. he done a a bit of a job i think
it had a heat sensor in it.
he was on the hoof.. over fences trough gardens,
it was very dark. so he hid in a dog kennel
he got away ok..
just luck Mr doberman wasnt home at the time

[sugilite]

Use a cloak of invisibility.
You mean putting on hi viz fluro gear? Sheer genius!!!

[DEATH_INC.]

Ammatures. You should be long gone before the eagle gets to you. If you can't loose 'em in under a minute you shouldn't be doing runners... :yes:

Would this fine person you are talking about happen to be Mr Lowe ?
Unless you're like this guy and didn't know the chopper was after him... :no:

[madandy]

You mean putting on hi viz fluro gear? Sheer genius!!!

Yep!
Not so effective on the long straights but sure to kep you unssen in heavy traffic and especially at intersections :crazy:

[sugilite]

Yep!
Not so effective on the long straights but sure to kep you unssen in heavy traffic and especially at intersections :crazy:

Woah! where did that come from??? Who said that??? Your wearing it now aren't you ya sneaky buggar! :lol:

[madandy]

Woah! where did that come from??? Who said that??? Your wearing it now aren't you ya sneaky buggar! :lol:

Hmmm, not sure. It works in mirrors too and I cant see myself right now!

[nzmikey]

Ammatures. You should be long gone before the eagle gets to you. If you can't loose 'em in under a minute you shouldn't be doing runners... :yes:

Unless you're like this guy and didn't know the chopper was after him... :no:

lol I called him the other day & was having a laugh with him about it ..... he said the footage showed the choppa join in at Greenlane & follow him to his place in MT Welly, go through the gate & into the house where he got changed, & then came out & put the bike in the garage & then go back in the house ..... & mr plod turn up & knock on the door :lol:

[zique]

Weird I was out riding tonight and the eagle was out tonight flying over whoever,for whatever reason.Rode straight home,garaged the bike and made a nice hot cuppa.

When my bro was lost,the cops told us the eagle can see someone switch on a lighter from about six miles away.

[Berries]

When my bro was lost,the cops told us the eagle can see someone switch on a lighter from about six miles away.
Bit of a bugger if he didn't smoke though.

[zique]

he didnt....he had his flashlight on,pointed up into the sky and the eagle didn't pick that up lol

[Disco Dan]

Head to nearest airport - Whenuapai usually works... no fly zone for the Eagle ;)

[jim.cox]

the cops told us the eagle can see someone switch on a lighter from about six miles away.

That's pretty much right. Those night vision goggles are that good.

But only if there aren't many other heat/light sources around.

So great when searching bush, not so good in the city...

[G4L4XY]

You could ride into an old abandoned warehouse where you have hundreds of fellow bikers waiting....

Then when the factory is surrounded all the doors lift up and you all make a break for it on your bikes Fast and Furious style!!!! :scooter:

[Dave-]

This really isn't a question about speed, it's about stamina

So a bike is only going to sit on 300km/h for half an hour before its tank is empty? so the furthest you can go from any point is only ~150km

A police helicopter can top out at 280km/h, but can do so for much longer (I think it'd be about 4 times longer, but as we're about to see it only needs to be a little bit longer)

Given that you can only out run a police chopper in basically a straight line we'll run with the following:

The police helicopter would get 139km before you ran out of gas at 150km, so it's 11km away, and closing at 278km/h which gives you 2 minutes and 20 seconds to refuel and/or find somewhere to hide.

So I'd only attempt a runner from a helicopter if I was on an adventure bike, I'd hike it into the high country where no cop car could follow, and just work away at the helicopter and hope he ran out of gas first, this would give me at least 40 minutes (they have a 20 minute reserve tank) to refuel and find somewhere else to hide.

How's that for dropping some university knowledge on ya's bitchez?!?!

[Banditbandit]

THREAD HIJACK - NUDES AND HELICOPTERS

http://www.bikeweekmemories.com/images/Copter%201.jpg

[nzmikey]

THREAD HIJACK - NUDES AND HELICOPTERS




Now THAT I would stop for :drool:

[onearmedbandit]

Rather boring video. But for 10 minutes the bike wasn't losing the chopper.

http://bikerpunks.com/media/thumbs/d7fe633830cb.jpg (http://bikerpunks.com/mediaviewer/3964/police-chopper-chasing-a-gsxr1000.html)

[Akzle]

How's that for dropping some university knowledge on ya's bitchez?!?!
[insert incredibly witty comment about the usefulness of tertiary education in NZ and those that aren't smart enough to fuck off to ozzie]

you got that empircal data on the effectiveness of policy enforcement yet?

THREAD HIJACK - NUDES AND HELICOPTERS
Hijack accepted.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--KqOqeCKV5c/UFND2sNnC7I/AAAAAAAABR4/02P7JwzSHrk/s1600/Titshelicopter.jpg

[scumdog]

Rather boring video. But for 10 minutes the bike wasn't losing the chopper.


A couple of screamin' obvious salient points.


The bike HAS to follow the curve of the bend while the chopper cuts across them

ANd the bike has its top speed dictated by traffic volume.

AND it was obvious THAT rider has not read this thread!:lol::killingme

[Akzle]

this site is f*ckin cool:
http://www.geekologie.com/2008/06/these-animal-hairdos-are-turni.php

[bsasuper]

Scoot out to the airport, restricted airspace, chopper will be told to fuck off, of course you have to have a good hiding place out there.

[huff3r]

Scoot out to the airport, restricted airspace, chopper will be told to fuck off, of course you have to have a good hiding place out there.

I very much doubt that. Tower is generally very accommodating of VFR traffic, and the Police would be given priority. If they'll let me in for flight training, they'd let a Police chopper in no worries!

[McWild]

Christ is this thread still going.

Decided that if it comes to it I'm stripping naked and going for a swim (backstroke) in the nearest body of water.

Might not get away but it would make for a cool ep of Police 10/7 (specially with the copter cam).

[rastuscat]

What a stupid thread. Get a life.

If stupidity ruled threads off KB there wouldn't be much to read.

[G4L4XY]

Rather boring video. But for 10 minutes the bike wasn't losing the chopper.



bike wasn't a huyobusa with nos, probably not sitting at 300km/ph either

[Road kill]

No helicopters in the good ole days.

Some time during 1981 one of my step brothers and a mate were asked to leave a Ponsonby party due to being to drunk,loud,uncouth and having to much fun.

The trouble is they were asked by a hired coconut security guard flunky who wasn't very polite so Bro' took offence an knocked the cunt out.

They then decided that maybe they should leave after all an made to do just that,but the coconuts off sider had blocked the drive way with his little Suzuki jeep type thing,,Bro' took offence again and hit it hard pushing it out of the way with his HQ.

No worries,time to go home anyway,,,but then a police car full of the obvious suddenly appeared an they also tried to stop bro' an mate leaving.

All a bit odd because the whole thing started by some snobby suits wanting them to fuck off,,an now every cunt was trying to stop them,,,,people make no sence at times.

So bro' boots it an heads for the bridge down Ponsonby rd,down through point Eren an up the bridge doing the ton while the coppers try to keep up an collect a couple of their mates at the same time.

The coppers tried to pass the bro' heading up the bridge but he swerved over both center lanes just to let them know he doesn't approve,so they quit that shit an go back to playing baby ducks.

Comes to the Toll gates an their all down,,,no worries again,,hit the gate at the ton an it just vanishes,,,,then lands on one of the camp followers.:nya:

Up Onewa rd still traveling fairly well an with a few more fans from the Takapuna branch.

Down Makoia rd to the wharf, out the door a over the edge,,,the mate couldn't swim so hung around for a yarn with the coppers.

He had some good bruisers when I saw him a couple of days later.
Must of been a good yarn that one:laugh:

Mean while bro' who weighs around 150kg "most of it fat" and swims like a fat fish,,,floats out towards Northcote point.

The Diodar was called out an came very close a couple of times but the bro' just kept low an finally made it to the point.

Only in his undies at this stage but he heads out to Bro Ronnie's place at the top of Onewa rd.

He reckoned he just ducked behind a bush every time a car came by but it was 2-3am on a mid week morning in 81 so there was fuck all traffic about anyway,,,,just a few cop cars really.

He gets to Rons place an scares the crap out of Rons mrs by tapping on the bed room window in his undies,,,,big white boy,,big fat white boy,,in his undies at 3am.

Fuck knows what was wrong with knockin' on the front door:wacko:

Next day I'm listening to Hauraki news during Smoko an their reporting some clown has assaulted police,security guard,toll gate,cop cars,an then jumped in the tide an gone missing,,,police are hoping to find a body,,,really hoping.

At work we laugh an make the usual witty comments about dumb fucks who jump in the tide,,,then the phone rings.

Hey bro' can ya' lend me some cash to get to Auzzie ?:facepalm:

[scumdog]

bike wasn't a huyobusa with nos, probably not sitting at 300km/ph either

How many 'busas on the bottle would last any time at a constant 300kph :wacko:

(Like they need 'the bottle' to get to 300kph anyway??)

[FROSTY]

First thing Id be doing is asking what the F$%$ a chopper is doing over a racetrack whilst a race was in progress.
If I was stupid enough to try to run I'd do it for the 5 minutes I have a shit show of outrunning the I cars and their radios. After that Mehh not much show

[rastuscat]

Back in the day, if I was being followed by Eagle, I'd call them on Channel 1, and tell them I was in pursuit of a black Triumph, 2 up, no helmets.

Never did catch that bastard...........:brick:

[davebullet]

I would first consider firing my EMP to take out the electrics.

If I didn't want immediate failure to put the pilot and passengers at risk, I might consider launching the 30 foot wire rope to tangle the rotor and give them chance to bail.

Failing that, the 1giga-lumen torch with self targetting (into the pilot's eyes) would blind and allow a getaway.

Failing that, I would ride to the beehive. No one in their right mind would choose to enter that place

[Dave-]

First thing Id be doing is asking what the F$%$ a chopper is doing over a racetrack whilst a race was in progress.
If I was stupid enough to try to run I'd do it for the 5 minutes I have a shit show of outrunning the I cars and their radios. After that Mehh not much show

Sometimes at Ruapuna I pretend I'm racing the aircraft that fly over.