DIC, of a caravan [Archive] - Kiwi Biker forums

kevfromcoro

25th May 2011, 11:48

Iam in Australia
Was towing my caravan late at night, and the back axle come adrift.
Off it went in the darkness.
scratched my head, pulled over. got in the van, and had afew beers
went to bed, and knock on the door
QLD police.
have you been drinking says the copper
yip.. in here. not driving.
the copper says ok. come down the cop shop
well i dont think thats neccesary i say
i was drinking in the van
with that, he puts me to the ground, and gives me the bash.off we go to the cop shop
booked me for dic. and resisting arrest.
he has been back, constantly harrasing me.going to lock me up. for anything he can think of.
surely they cant make a case out of this
adfvise please

Crasherfromwayback

25th May 2011, 11:52

Bad buzz man. I'm no lawyer, but it would seem to me you've got a fairly good case against them.

Swoop

25th May 2011, 12:15

QLD police.
There's your problem.:yes:

unstuck

25th May 2011, 12:17

...adfvise please

Stay off the piss.:yes:

Paul in NZ

25th May 2011, 12:20

Plead guilty to Van - dalisim

XxKiTtiExX

25th May 2011, 12:30

Wheres DB? He's always good when it comes to legal advice.

jaffaonajappa

25th May 2011, 13:11

1. Take some photos of the caravan axle, and your posiiton relative to the road.
2. Remove your "Bacon hating" tee shirt? lol, jks.

Banditbandit

25th May 2011, 13:22

adfvise please

get out of QLD

Crasherfromwayback

25th May 2011, 13:25

get out of QLD

Best bit of advice yet.

willytheekid

25th May 2011, 13:33

Keys in the ignition?

...if so, your more than likely screwed!

kevfromcoro

25th May 2011, 14:25

Stay off the piss.:yes:

Sorry for bad spelling chaps, but in the crash my pc hit the deck

push a tab, and it prints something else..

thanks for advice...... (see... i can spell)

unstuck

25th May 2011, 15:53

Sorry for bad spelling chaps, but in the crash my pc hit the deck

push a tab, and it prints something else..

thanks for advice...... (see... i can spell)

Yeah, now that your sober.:bleh:

tigertim20

25th May 2011, 16:12

Ender EnZed

25th May 2011, 16:19

Was towing my caravan late at night, and the back axle come adrift.
Off it went in the darkness.

Could you elaborate on this part a bit? What exactly happened?

Laava

25th May 2011, 16:27

tigertim20

25th May 2011, 16:52

The way I read it, he didn't call the cops at all.

thats exactly my point, you have an accident, you call the cops, and see about fixing the issue, or getting a tow, you dont just say meh who cares and go get pissed, leaving potentially dangerous debris littering the area in the dark!

And if he had called the popo anyway, it would have been quite different I imagine. I guess I am just very sceptical of the accuracy of the OP's post.

only reason I can think of for him to have NOT called the popo was that he had been drinking prior to the accident as well

kevfromcoro

25th May 2011, 18:35

Could you elaborate on this part a bit? What exactly happened?
okies,,, brke a sring shackle. and tre the axle ut..
wish this pc wuld wrk
whats pps

Devil

25th May 2011, 18:51

thats exactly my point, you have an accident, you call the cops, and see about fixing the issue, or getting a tow, ....

only reason I can think of for him to have NOT called the popo was that he had been drinking prior to the accident as well

Are you kidding? Why would you waste the cops time with a mechanical failure?
If your chain fell off your bike, would you call the cops?
If your seat came off, would you call the cops?
If you ran out of gas, would you call the cops?

kevfromcoro

25th May 2011, 19:05

Are you kidding? Why would you waste the cops time with a mechanical failure?
If your chain fell off your bike, would you call the cops?
If your seat came off, would you call the cops?
If you ran out of gas, would you call the cops?
gd nya.....i hae just drien 10 hrs... all i wanted t d was g t bed,,,
and this shit hapened... pc is wrking. srt f
i hae been ut here fr a mnth....
gt sme tucker...... and a warm bed. its cld ut here
iam in injune ... ggle it
hrses eerywhere
and n... i cant ride a hrse

unstuck

25th May 2011, 19:10

On the a55?

Virago

25th May 2011, 19:10

jk;hf;n 'avn;nh 'laoh...?

Madness

25th May 2011, 19:19

Wheres DB? He's always good when it comes to legal advice.

He got the bash, dinn-hee?

Kev; If you ever write an autobiography I'll buy a copy. You always farkin crack me up!.

kevfromcoro

25th May 2011, 19:38

He got the bash, dinn-hee?

Kev; If you ever write an autobiography I'll buy a copy. You always farkin crack me up!.

haha.. yeah i write a bk ne day.
gt n0 0...
l0ts f eple tell me that
this was a mnth ag0.
lts has happened since then,,,,
i mean l0ts
fukin stuck ut here with a mb f hillbilles...
een the shelias are dangeru0s
but eeryday is an adenture
h0rse riding t-mrrw
his name is vstrm
brken ribs,
lets g

Indoo

25th May 2011, 19:52

You screwed yourself because you refused to accompany and resisted arrest.

Guilty, and use commonsense next time.

tigertim20

25th May 2011, 19:58

Are you kidding? Why would you waste the cops time with a mechanical failure?
If your chain fell off your bike, would you call the cops?
If your seat came off, would you call the cops?
If you ran out of gas, would you call the cops?

If my bike 'spontaneously disintegrated' in the dark, I wouldnt fuck off and get pissed, without consideration for what carnage the remaining debris strewn around the area might cause for other vehicles in the vicinity.
I would at least, in the circimstance described in the first post call a tow truck.

sounds more like he was pissed, fucked his caravan, and got nailed for being drunk and being a cunt.

Laava

25th May 2011, 22:00

If my bike 'spontaneously disintegrated' in the dark, I wouldnt fuck off and get pissed, without consideration for what carnage the remaining debris strewn around the area might cause for other vehicles in the vicinity.
I would at least, in the circimstance described in the first post call a tow truck.

sounds more like he was pissed, fucked his caravan, and got nailed for being drunk and being a cunt.

Something you wanna tell the class? Were you there?

tigertim20

25th May 2011, 22:12

Something you wanna tell the class? Were you there?

Im not naieve enough to think that there isnt more to the story, that's all

huff3r

25th May 2011, 22:23

Im not naieve enough to think that there isnt more to the story, that's all

Sounds like what he means is it came adrift, i.e something wasnt right, and "off it came" as in he took it off to investigate/fix it.

Couldnt fix it, so got pissed and went to bed.

Not it came off as in the axle went everywhere all over the road. Makes sense if that is the story...

DrunkenMistake

25th May 2011, 23:28

hehe.
if youd had an accident, wouldnt you call the popo first?
I dunno if the first thing I would do in this instance is just sit there and get wobbly-legged.

Sounds as though there is a tad more to the story, seldom are the 'poor little innocent me bullied by a big mean policeman' stories accurately regaled on KB...

good luck either way.

P.S. Wouldnt have happened on the bike!:blink:

Dunno some fucker in Dunedin has caused a shit stir with the cops because last night they outran them doing 200km + ... So all day today bikes have been getting pulled up willy nilly and getting questioned as to their whereabouts, and background checks of the rider and bike.

Besides, Its QLD police, they are probably drunker than you are.

kevfromcoro

25th May 2011, 23:40

Gremlin

26th May 2011, 01:09

A helpful post... hopefully...

1. Document everything. The sequence of events, dates, times, officer badge numbers etc. I wouldn't mind telling them at all why you wanted the information. What was said to you, what you said to them. Use full words, all letters in the words, so it is easy to understand :innocent:

2. Make sure the sequence of events is as accurate as it can be. Do this sooner rather than later, as details disappear with the passing of time.

3. Know your local laws. What qualifies as DIC. Were you in the driving seat? Were keys in the ignition? Different states/countries have different laws. You may have no way out, you may be able to argue it completely successfully. If you know the laws (or rules of the game) then you know where you stand.

4. Ask police for a copy of their case notes or records. You may have to find out if you're even able to do this.

5. Personally, if they asked any questions, I'd make it clear what I was up to. It may make them behave a bit better... it may not. If it doesn't, well, it's only going to look worse for them.

6. Leave passion/emotions out of the equation, and approach everything in a logical manner, calmly explaining things where necessary. You're still dealing with humans. Sugar works far better than salt.

tri boy

26th May 2011, 06:35

Qld cops are arseholes.
Roll with it, and get the fuck outa Dodge asap.
The ghost of Jo Bjelke Petterson still lingers.

scumdog

26th May 2011, 06:50

scumdog

26th May 2011, 06:55

hang 0n..
this is a getting a bit 0ut 0f hand
f0r a start,, there was n carnage 0n the r0ad. AT ALL
WHEN I blew in the machine at the c sh , i was .07.
.05 is the legal limit.
abt half a can 2 muc
n0t pissed

YOU might say you were not pissed (and you did!)
But the reading says legally you were.

And getting up towards as much again as the legal limit isn't just 'half a can'

Unless they're 2 litre cans...:blink:

scumdog

26th May 2011, 06:56

QLD police.
have you been drinking says the copper
yip.. in here. not driving.
the copper says ok. come down the cop shop
well i dont think thats neccesary i say
i was drinking in the van
with that, he puts me to the ground, and gives me the bash.off we go to the cop shop
booked me for dic. and resisting arrest.
he has been back, constantly harrasing me.going to lock me up. for anything he can think of.
surely they cant make a case out of this
adfvise please

Makes you appreciate the Kiwi cops eh??

SPman

26th May 2011, 13:18

Qld cops are arseholes.
Roll with it, and get the fuck outa Dodge asap.
The ghost of Jo Bjelke Petterson still lingers.

It ain't just Qld cops, partner!
Anywhere they carry a gun, the agro level multiplies.......

Ender EnZed

26th May 2011, 15:17

And getting up towards as much again as the legal limit isn't just 'half a can'

0.02 over isn't "towards as much again". It's 40% of the legal limit again.

The Stranger

26th May 2011, 15:58

thats exactly my point, you have an accident, you call the cops,

only reason I can think of for him to have NOT called the popo was that he had been drinking prior to the accident as well

Is it really an accident or a breakdown?
Sure it was an accidental breakdown, but accident implies there was an impact that caused the issue. It appears it was rather a mechanical failure - or breakdown.

Regardless his actions sound pretty normal. I don't think I've ever called the cops for an accident or a breakdown. What the hell for? Haven't they got better shit to be sorting out - like drunk drivers.

I have however been known to drag out the piss and proceed get slaughtered on the side of the road with a few mates so we didn't have to pour beer in the ratiator to get to our destination.

scumdog

26th May 2011, 17:33

0.02 over isn't "towards as much again". It's 40% of the legal limit again.

Oops, had meant to put in "getting towards half as much again" :doh:

jaffaonajappa

26th May 2011, 17:47

Makes you appreciate the Kiwi cops eh??

Nope.
But yes, Aus coppers are even worse.

tigertim20

26th May 2011, 17:57

Is it really an accident or a breakdown?
Sure it was an accidental breakdown, but accident implies there was an impact that caused the issue. It appears it was rather a mechanical failure - or breakdown.

Regardless his actions sound pretty normal. I don't think I've ever called the cops for an accident or a breakdown. What the hell for? Haven't they got better shit to be sorting out - like drunk drivers.

I have however been known to drag out the piss and proceed get slaughtered on the side of the road with a few mates so we didn't have to pour beer in the ratiator to get to our destination.

semantics.
original post sounded like bits flew off, and OP made no effort to look for them. Im just saying it doesnt sound like he did anything about it at all, other than walk off and get boozed up.

Story just doesnt sound quite right to me, that is all

scumdog

26th May 2011, 18:04

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Story just doesnt sound quite right to me, that is all

100% agree, story is as dodgy as a $3 pistol...

The Stranger

26th May 2011, 18:33

Story just doesnt sound quite right to me, that is all

By all means, but point out what it is that doesn't sound quite right, don't make shit up.
That's definately "not quite right" and the very thing you suspect him of.
Sure the cops get calls over all sorts of stupid shit - doesn't mean they're goin to respond. Hell, just try and get them to respond to a real crime and see how you get on.

tigertim20

26th May 2011, 18:41

By all means, but point out what it is that doesn't sound quite right, don't make shit up.
That's definately "not quite right" and the very thing you suspect him of.
Sure the cops get calls over all sorts of stupid shit - doesn't mean they're goin to respond. Hell, just try and get them to respond to a real crime and see how you get on.

I havent 'made stuff up', I have simply interpreted the information provided by the OP. Maybe you interpreted iit differently, thats cool.
since you are so intent on supporting him, perhaps you could represent him in court too?

The Stranger

26th May 2011, 19:45

I havent 'made stuff up', I have simply interpreted the information provided by the OP. Maybe you interpreted iit differently, thats cool.
since you are so intent on supporting him, perhaps you could represent him in court too?

You have a bit of a habit of saying stupid shit don't you.
That's good KB can always use a new DB.

Toaster

26th May 2011, 20:01

Well people DO call them for that kind of shit - even using 111 to call them.:blink:

Example 111 Caller: Can you tell me the weather forecast?

Meanwhile, actual emergency calls wait.....

scumdog

26th May 2011, 20:12

You have a bit of a habit of saying stupid shit don't you.
That's good KB can always use a new DB.

So....., welcome as the new DB Mr "The Stranger"!!:woohoo:

Smifffy

26th May 2011, 21:29

semantics.
original post sounded like bits flew off, and OP made no effort to look for them. Im just saying it doesnt sound like he did anything about it at all, other than walk off and get boozed up.

Story just doesnt sound quite right to me, that is all

It does seem a bit odd, but I certainly didn't interpret the OP as " bits flew off, and OP made no effort to look for them."

I don't think he walked off to get boozed up either, his problem stemmed from the fact that he sat down in his nice cosy caravan lagered up.

Of course never in human history has there ever been an instance where someone has been fitted up by the man.

tigertim20

26th May 2011, 21:59

You have a bit of a habit of saying stupid shit don't you.
That's good KB can always use a new DB.
quick, someone call the wahhhhhmbulance, stranger has dropped his lollipop

So....., welcome as the new DB Mr "The Stranger"!!:woohoo:
+1

It does seem a bit odd, but I certainly didn't interpret the OP as " bits flew off, and OP made no effort to look for them."

I don't think he walked off to get boozed up either, his problem stemmed from the fact that he sat down in his nice cosy caravan lagered up.

Of course never in human history has there ever been an instance where someone has been fitted up by the man.

as I said, it was only the way I interpreted it, I never said that was definitely how it was. the first post was short on details, in my experiemce when someone throws a 'help me' post up regardling legal stuff, and omits large amounts of detail, its fair to assume there is alot more to the story that what they are telling.

Smifffy

26th May 2011, 22:04

as I said, it was only the way I interpreted it, I never said that was definitely how it was. the first post was short on details, in my experiemce when someone throws a 'help me' post up regardling legal stuff, and omits large amounts of detail, its fair to assume there is alot more to the story that what they are telling.

Agreed. I find that often if i think there is detail missing, I am better served by asking for the missing detail, than making it up myself.

The Stranger

26th May 2011, 22:52

in my experiemce when someone throws a 'help me' post up regardling legal stuff, and omits large amounts of detail, its fair to assume there is alot more to the story that what they are telling.

You know what they say "assumption is the mother of all fuck ups".
Well not quite all, they probably haven't met your mother.

The Stranger

26th May 2011, 22:53

Agreed. I find that often if i think there is detail missing, I am better served by asking for the missing detail, than making it up myself.

As I was saying. But don't expect a change anytime soon, tinytim is a slow learner.

tigertim20

26th May 2011, 22:58

LOL! a pathetic mum joke is all you can manage? Youve a long way to go before you can call yourself the new DB buddy!! Keep at it though!!

The Stranger

26th May 2011, 23:03

LOL! a pathetic mum joke is all you can manage? Youve a long way to go before you can call yourself the new DB buddy!! Keep at it though!!

There was a mum joke in there?

unstuck

27th May 2011, 07:05

Now look what you have started kev.:laugh:You should be bloody ashamed of yourself.:facepalm:You better get back in the van and have a brew.:yes: P.S. how was the horsey?:sunny:

kevfromcoro

27th May 2011, 08:57

Yeah bt f a strm n a teacup
dnt e hrseys
n bracs

kevfromcoro

27th May 2011, 08:59

dam
just gt haf a cey bard wurcc

Maha

27th May 2011, 11:49

You need to fix your keyboard and then call 'AA'.

Genie

27th May 2011, 12:00

You need to fix your keyboard and then call 'AA'.

:killingme

Gee Kev, sorry to hear of this woeful tale. Do not despair, the truth shall set you free. Get a lawyer and as others have said...write it all down, in a language that the judge can read.