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Crasherfromwayback

26th May 2011, 11:52

Was gonna stop looking, as was getting sick of all the modified 6 hundies. Glad I kept going! I want the Kawasaki 250 GP bike please. Cyls upside down...very trick.

ac3_snow

26th May 2011, 12:16

http://moto-works.bravejournal.com/ :love:
Brilliant !!!

Was gonna stop looking, as was getting sick of all the modified 6 hundies. Glad I kept going! I want the Kawasaki 250 GP bike please. Cyl upside down...very trick.

Keep looking, some interesting expansion chamber placements bout halfway down too

Crasherfromwayback

26th May 2011, 12:24

Brilliant !!!

Keep looking, some interesting expansion chamber placements bout halfway down too

Yeah I know about the 'upside down' NS500. Plug chop anyone?

Maido

26th May 2011, 13:58

http://moto-works.bravejournal.com/ :love:

one of Baz's many many many emails eh

Cleve

26th May 2011, 19:15

Cheers for that Craig. Love the Japanese (well I would say that I married one!!) - but in the bike sense here we can also see why :yes:

jaffaonajappa

26th May 2011, 20:06

damnnn thats a large web page. But Awesome, ty!

jaffaonajappa

26th May 2011, 20:23

But does this much padding seem a little...........unusual?

http://photos.bravenet.com/169/244/914/0/6C3E1BC2F8.jpg

Kickaha

26th May 2011, 20:29

Yeah I know about the 'upside down' NS500. Plug chop anyone?

I helped a friend build an upside down NSR250 in a Kart several years ago, it was the easiest way to mount it (gearbox was cut off)

jellywrestler

27th May 2011, 07:18

what's with the number 56 about three from the top Craig?
Thought you were a world wide legend and that was your number???

lukemillar

27th May 2011, 11:10

But does this much padding seem a little...........unusual?

http://photos.bravenet.com/169/244/914/0/6C3E1BC2F8.jpg

Doesn't look like padding - seems to have a kevlar weave to it.

eelracing

27th May 2011, 15:14

V cool pic's,always a pleasure to get a look under the skirts of Japanese exotica.

dangerous

27th May 2011, 16:34

Jizzed <tenchars/>ohhh man... same 239696 look at dem dear 'spanies' WT

Crasherfromwayback

27th May 2011, 16:43

ohhh man... same 239696 look at dem dear 'spanies' WT

The thing was a total disaster from day one.

White trash

27th May 2011, 16:44

ohhh man... same 239696 look at dem dear 'spanies' WT

Fucken OATH!

Crasherfromwayback

27th May 2011, 17:01

Fucken OATH!

You want to see proper stiffy inducing 'spannies', go have a proper look at the Honda NS500 twin.

dangerous

27th May 2011, 17:48

You want to see proper stiffy inducing 'spannies', go have a proper look at the Honda NS500 twin.
which one was that?

did ya's spot the 125cc FIVE? and interesting seeing the NR nakid :shit:

The thing was a total disaster from day one. how come... is it not the NSR500 engine?
I always liked the idea of the BB1 Bimoto keep the heavy fuel COG low and big empty light things high.

eelracing

27th May 2011, 18:04

how come... is it not the NSR500 engine?
I always liked the idea of the BB1 Bimoto keep the heavy fuel COG low and big empty light things high.

Unfortunately the underslung fuel tank made for interesting maneuvering when fully fueled, ie; like a pendulum effect only it was as slow as a four stroke to flick over.The full tank below and pipes above took weight too far away from the ideal that mass centralising is about...also as Crasher mentioned the mechanics hated working on it.

dangerous

27th May 2011, 19:34

Unfortunately the underslung fuel tank made for interesting maneuvering when fully fueled, ie; like a pendulum effect only it was as slow as a four stroke to flick over.
interesting cos I'v raced and spent a bit of road time on the BB1 and that bike was a mint handler, never noticed any diferance if the tank was empty or full. (BB1 pipe was central and under seat, air box and storage in tank)

Crasherfromwayback

27th May 2011, 19:42

which one was that?

did ya's spot the 125cc FIVE? and interesting seeing the NR nakid :shit:

This one right here! Yeah...the 125 is cool...the NR though, is one of Honda's biggest piles of shit EVER.239701

eelracing

27th May 2011, 20:07

interesting cos I'v raced and spent a bit of road time on the BB1 and that bike was a mint handler, never noticed any diferance if the tank was empty or full. (BB1 pipe was central and under seat, air box and storage in tank)

That is a puzzler...you should of told Freddie in 84,he could of used it instead of going back to the V3.

Crasherfromwayback

27th May 2011, 20:26

That is a puzzler...you should of told Freddie in 84,he could of used it instead of going back to the V3.

There comes a point you have too much weight low, and you don't get the right amount of pitch, and it's also harder to tip from side to side. Think 'Tommy Tippy'!

dangerous

27th May 2011, 21:13

This one right here! Yeah...the 125 is cool...the NR though, is one of Honda's biggest piles of shit EVER.239701 hell no... that looks like a v2... Im talking about a 4 stroke ----> 239704 239705 239706

That is a puzzler...you should of told Freddie in 84,he could of used it instead of going back to the V3.So... Freddie dident get to ride the V4 till 85? I'm asuming the under tank NS was inbetween the triple and the 85 V4?

There comes a point you have too much weight low, and you don't get the right amount of pitch, and it's also harder to tip from side to side. Think 'Tommy Tippy'!
Makes sence... the BB1's tank was small and plastic.

eelracing

27th May 2011, 21:35

So... Freddie dident get to ride the V4 till 85? I'm asuming the under tank NS was inbetween the triple and the 85 V4?

No and yes. Freddie decided (against Honda)to ride the triple at some 84 rounds and even went as far as having the V3 ready for practise at following rounds because of the handling of the upsidedowner.He could'nt stay with Eddie on high speed tracks.

steveyb

27th May 2011, 23:01

eelracing

27th May 2011, 23:50

Shame it didn't work out as it would have been cool to see Slight get into GPs, irrespective of his faults.

Yeah I know...his haircuts were shocking.

First time i've ever seen pic's of the Kwaka 250 as well.She is a beauty.

Kiwi Graham

28th May 2011, 08:12

Thanks Craig, web page almost as big as the Chow's!!

They certainly have a way of putting some awesome race bikes together. :love:

Crasherfromwayback

28th May 2011, 08:44

First time I have seen pics of the Kawasaki 250GP bike. That was the one Slight tested back in the day. Did Simon C have a test on it too? Can't remember.
Shame it didn't work out as it would have been cool to see Slight get into GPs, irrespective of his faults.

Yeah I know...his haircuts were shocking.

First time i've ever seen pic's of the Kwaka 250 as well.She is a beauty.

Slighty raced it at Daytona, pretty sure Crafar never got anywhere near it. It was THE most secretive Kawasaki ever.

dangerous

28th May 2011, 09:44

Slighty raced it at Daytona, pretty sure Crafar never got anywhere near it. It was THE most secretive Kawasaki ever.
someone post the pic here, cos I have no idea which bike ya talking bout...

Crasherfromwayback

28th May 2011, 09:49

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someone post the pic here, cos I have no idea which bike ya talking bout...

Here ya go mate...

White trash

28th May 2011, 10:11

239711239712

Here ya go mate...

I'd hit it.

Crasherfromwayback

28th May 2011, 10:13

I'd hit it.

I was working at Boyles when that thing surfaced. I was hoping like hell they'd build 'em and sell 'em like TZ's and RS's. Because I would've got my hands on one.

White trash

28th May 2011, 10:27

I was working at Boyles when that thing surfaced. I was hoping like hell they'd build 'em and sell 'em like TZ's and RS's. Because I would've got my hands on one.

Fucken Suzuki and Kawasaki are rookies. If they'd built customer 250s, they may have enjoyed better success from the additional testing and development.

Crasherfromwayback

28th May 2011, 11:07

Fucken Suzuki and Kawasaki are rookies. If they'd built customer 250s, they may have enjoyed better success from the additional testing and development.

Think they both sulked at getting their arses kicked and went to play in a seperate sandpit. Jonny K and Crafar went ok on the Suzuki though, even though it was underpowered. It's also the bike Troy Baliss shot to stardom on though. 4th or 6th wasn't it as a wildcard at the Aus GP way back when...

dangerous

28th May 2011, 17:23

so inlighten me chaps... did Kawa leave the tandom twin idea behind this time? or is it the upside down thing that was mentioned? just that I cant figger out the lay out of that engine...

ac3_snow

28th May 2011, 17:51

gixerracer

28th May 2011, 20:27

Think they both sulked at getting their arses kicked and went to play in a seperate sandpit. Jonny K and Crafar went ok on the Suzuki though, even though it was underpowered. It's also the bike Troy Baliss shot to stardom on though. 4th or 6th wasn't it as a wildcard at the Aus GP way back when...

That ride from Bayliss was one of the all time great rides that thing was 25kph down on speed on the main straight at P Island and he had the thing on pole for a while. I have the 3 days on vcr somewhere it was all live on telly on OZ I remember him trying to ride around the outside of Caparossi at turn 2 and he was staring at him going WTF are you up 2 lol.
Bayliss one of the all time greats

steveyb

28th May 2011, 22:14

so inlighten me chaps... did Kawa leave the tandom twin idea behind this time? or is it the upside down thing that was mentioned? just that I cant figger out the lay out of that engine...

Yep it is an upside down V-twin.
For whatever reason they could not get it to be competitive at the highest levels and pulled the pin.
Real shame.
Shame also that Suzuki pulled the pin on their 250 GP programme so early in the piece. Went well(ish) there for a few years. A lot of top riders went through that programme for short or long periods: Crafar, Barros, Gibernau to name just 3.

Cleve

29th May 2011, 10:07

The female racer on the Ducati at the 8 hour is an interesting case. She is also deaf. http://www.hippopotamus.jp/takasugi/english.htm

CM2005

29th May 2011, 11:02

But does this much padding seem a little...........unusual?

http://photos.bravenet.com/169/244/914/0/6C3E1BC2F8.jpg

i think its to keep the weight distribution right by not letting the rider too far forward, nobu aoki and some other jap riders had them in 500gp's too.

Crasherfromwayback

29th May 2011, 19:39

That ride from Bayliss was one of the all time great rides that thing was 25kph down on speed on the main straight at P Island and he had the thing on pole for a while. I have the 3 days on vcr somewhere it was all live on telly on OZ I remember him trying to ride around the outside of Caparossi at turn 2 and he was staring at him going WTF are you up 2 lol.
Bayliss one of the all time greats

Yeah damn straight. Shows though that Phillip Island (despite what a few people think) isn't a power track. All about maintaining really good corner speed and linking all of the corners together well. Like Jeremy McWilliams setting pole on the KR3 vs the way faster v 4's and the new Thous.

gixerracer

30th May 2011, 09:39

Yeah damn straight. Shows though that Phillip Island (despite what a few people think) isn't a power track. All about maintaining really good corner speed and linking all of the corners together well. Like Jeremy McWilliams setting pole on the KR3 vs the way faster v 4's and the new Thous.

Yip I was lucky enough to be there when McWilliams done that It was pretty Orsum I must say. Still hard to beat the sound of those 500ccGp machines I remember standing in the overpass bridge at the Island and just listening to the 500s was pretty mad and also towards the end of the main straight you could here them coming but couldnt see them that was prettu cool, The suzuki at terminal speed with Kenny Robersts on board sounded very nice
:love:

Crasherfromwayback

30th May 2011, 09:52

Yip I was lucky enough to be there when McWilliams done that It was pretty Orsum I must say. Still hard to beat the sound of those 500ccGp machines I remember standing in the overpass bridge at the Island and just listening to the 500s was pretty mad and also towards the end of the main straight you could here them coming but couldnt see them that was prettu cool, The suzuki at terminal speed with Kenny Robersts on board sounded very nice
:love:

I was there too. Was a great weekend.