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unstuck
28th May 2011, 10:52
Any one walked the routeburn in winter. Was wondering if they leave the gas there for cooking at the huts,or do you take your own. I am getting conflicting information from DOC which is nothing new. Anyone who has done a winter crossing and knows about this i would like to hear from you.Doing the crossing in 2 weeks.Cheers, darren.:woohoo:

unstuck
28th May 2011, 16:21
I guess there are not many trampers on kb then.:corn:

Jantar
28th May 2011, 16:28
I guess I'm one of the few who done a winter crossing, but that was many years ago when there was no gas in the huts and you had to carry everything yourself.

Unless you are experienced in alpine winter conditions then this is about as late in the season as you would want to attempt it. Even now there are likely to be snow drifts in the area of the Harris Saddle and the top of the McKenzie zig zag.

Enjoy your trip and take plenty of pics.

unstuck
28th May 2011, 16:47
I guess I'm one of the few who done a winter crossing, but that was many years ago when there was no gas in the huts and you had to carry everything yourself.

Unless you are experienced in alpine winter conditions then this is about as late in the season as you would want to attempt it. Even now there are likely to be snow drifts in the area of the Harris Saddle and the top of the McKenzie zig zag.

Enjoy your trip and take plenty of pics.
Cheers, this is a bit of a tame trip as we are taking my father who is 68. Usually stay away from the main walks but i think some of the places we usually go may be a bit extreme for the old fella.Some DOC info says they take out the gas from the huts over winter but another couple of people who work for DOC say the could leave them there. Think i will just take everything we need just to be safe,just wanted to be as light as possible for the old fella.:yes:

Okey Dokey
29th May 2011, 09:31
Have a great trip. It will probably be worth a bit of cold weather to go when then aren't a zillion others on the track. Enjoy!

scumdog
29th May 2011, 09:49
Not a good idea if the weather is at all dodgy, not knocking your old man because of his age but given the cold/winds/snow possibility etc it could be hard on him, - however you could take one of those small gas cookers with you if you were determined to do the tramp.

Dadpole
29th May 2011, 10:57
My experience with DOC huts over winter (including many years as a hut warden) is that some people will use the gas cookers to try and heat the hut. Always take your own gas cooker, as the time you don't will be when you find one of these Nimrods was there before you.

No advice for the Routeburn sorry. Still on the 'one day - perhaps' list.

Usarka
29th May 2011, 14:19
Take a locator beacon.

I almost died of hyporthermia on a saddle near arthurs pass in Oct last year. Wind changed to southerly and took my unawares, realised i was hyporthermic when i fell over and hit my head in a stream and just lay there going bibble. Caried on a bit in a daze and finally decided to pitch the tent as the snow started coming in hard.

Ps - prob wasn't as well marked/formed as the routebourne though so she'll be right!

unstuck
29th May 2011, 14:42
Have worked for DOC myself for a few years based out of tapanui so know how unorganized and inconsistent they can be.Will be taking a locator beacon and on advice from some good guys who still work within DOC we will be taking a chopper over the harris saddle if there is too much snow. Dont fancy the chances of fighting an avalanche. Will also be taking our own gas and spreading the weight between myself and my 2 brothers, although my father is probably fitter than any of us even after triple bypass. We did the hollyford out to martins bay ealier this year and he handled that ok.So all going well should be a great trip without all the millions of loopies. Now to talk them into a side trip to the valley of trolls for a spot of real adventure.:yes:

Usarka
29th May 2011, 14:47
I am getting conflicting information from DOC which is nothing new.

Last time they did this to me I cancelled a well planned and exciting crossing because it was "too dangerous" from all the snow and ice. Met people coming over the crossing saying there was no snow or ice at all.

I don't listen to what they tell me now.

unstuck
29th May 2011, 14:55
Last time they did this to me I cancelled a well planned and exciting crossing because it was "too dangerous" from all the snow and ice. Met people coming over the crossing saying there was no snow or ice at all.

I don't listen to what they tell me now.

YEP,after my years of working for them, I tend to shop around for advice now.Got stranded on codfish island for awhile after too many boffins in head office got involved and made a really big fuck up,which left us without anything to eat for quite awhile. Those kakapo were looking mighty good. Luckily the seafood and fishing down there is awesome.:yes:

unstuck
12th June 2011, 21:17
Just a couple of pics from the trip. It was awesome,perfect weather,hardly any people.Bloody good walk.:2thumbsup

Winston001
12th June 2011, 22:19
Well done, that's a great experience to have with your Dad. I'd gues your timing was spot on and very little snow?

unstuck
13th June 2011, 06:19
Yes, was a great experience. He did alright for his age,and considering he has had triple bypass surgery also, he did really well. Would recommend this walk to anyone.Perfect time of year for it.

unstuck
13th June 2011, 20:23
A couple more pics.

Oakie
13th June 2011, 21:05
My daughter's partner organises this for those who would rather get it done in a day.

http://www.goodtimesevents.net/#

unstuck
15th June 2011, 11:38
My daughter's partner organises this for those who would rather get it done in a day.

http://www.goodtimesevents.net/#

Think I will stick to walking thanks.:2thumbsup 20 yrs ago I may of given it a go though. Would be good sitting at the hut and watching them all running past though.:clap:

ynot slow
18th June 2011, 09:21
Our great outdoors,can understand why we don't want mining in pristine areas.
Have walked the Wanganui(no h then)river walk a few times,and canoed it,a mate who did the Matemateonga Walkway(trek from Stratford to river 40km approx)with me in 1978,has done the walk every decade since then,and as his boy got older took him as well.

unstuck
18th June 2011, 10:46
There may be an 11 km tunnel under this walk soon, from the routeburn station to the hollyford valley. Not sure on how I feel about this yet. Will be the death of te anau I feel.:scratch:

FJRider
18th June 2011, 10:59
There may be an 11 km tunnel under this walk soon, from the routeburn station to the hollyford valley. Not sure on how I feel about this yet. Will be the death of te anau I feel.:scratch:

NOT ... if the tunnel is ONE WAY ...

unstuck
18th June 2011, 11:12
True, never heard anything about the tunnel being oneway. Would save te anau though. What about glenorchy, Are they for or against the idea generaly??

FJRider
18th June 2011, 11:35
True, never heard anything about the tunnel being oneway. Would save te anau though. What about glenorchy, Are they for or against the idea generaly??

Considering the Glenorchy road is a sweet motorcycle road .... putting a shitload of busses on it ... each and EVERY day ... :mad:

jim.cox
19th June 2011, 20:32
NOT ... if the tunnel is ONE WAY ...

Homer Tunnel USED to be one way - give way signs and times at both ends

Then they gave it traffic lights

Then they realsied the avalanche hazard was really high sitting at the homer end

So they widdened the tunnel (just a little bit)

So now there is room (just) for two busses to pass

Still damned intimidating having a 40 seater come at you...

( The other tunnel they are proposing was going to be autoguided bus only )

Highlander
19th June 2011, 20:47
My daughter's partner organises this for those who would rather get it done in a day.

http://www.goodtimesevents.net/#

I was going to say last time I did it I ran it. They called it the "Routeburn Rage" then, it was the first and they were talking of making it an annual event. We extended it by doing a there and back loop down the road at the Wakatipu end to qualify it as a marathon.
Would like to go back and walk it again, but would have to be the off season just to avoid the crowds.