View Full Version : Millie needs new shoes
Well one new one anyway.
I have a 5000k old Conti Motion on the front and a completely flogged out Bridgestone Battleaxe on the rear. Funnily enough it was ok last Friday, square but ok. Have managed to do about 1200 kms this week and the tyre is no longer servicable. I need a tyre suitable for a 100km a day commute on the motorway of straightness, that will still allow a gentle lady rider to have a bit of fun on the twisty bits on the weekend. I dont want it to square off too quickly.
Advice welcome.
blackdog
28th May 2011, 19:33
The conti motions I've had have been awesome. Completely confidence inspiring in all conditions on a 1200 bandit.
If you are commuting though, I would definitely recommend a 2CT rear.
slofox
28th May 2011, 19:38
the tyre is no longer servicable.
Does it look like this?
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James Deuce
28th May 2011, 19:40
I found the Conti Motions to be exceptional value for money and they work well in the cold and wet. However, Michelin PR3s are getting rave reviews for wet weather riding without giving anything away in the dry so they would be worth a look too.
http://www.tyrepress.com/News/1/18/21806.html
hayd3n
28th May 2011, 19:51
round black ones
some Michelin Pilot Road 2 will suit your riding perfectly
Grant`
28th May 2011, 20:32
Yeah +1 on the Pilot Road 2's I had a set on my ER6 when I had it and I got 17k out of a set of them :-)
Just got a new set of the Pilot Road 3's for my predator and hoping will see some good miles out of them also!
Toaster
28th May 2011, 20:35
Does it look like this?
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Looks like you need to lean into your corners more.... plently of tread out on the sides mate!
Hitcher
28th May 2011, 20:35
I once had Conti Motions on my Shiver. They are the only tyres I've ever had that I've replaced before they were half worn. Seriously they scared me shitless riding in the wet. Both the front and the rear were ridiculously spontaneous, at the same time on occasion. Yes, they're cheap. There may be a good reason for that.
For your bike and riding needs, I'd recommend Avon Storm 2 Ultras.
Toaster
28th May 2011, 20:44
Advice welcome.
I used Metzler M8 tyres on the Hayabusa.... harder wearing middle, more grippier sides - great for more confident riding in corners but useful for the long daily commute.
Will likely do the same to the Honda if they fit this bike once I wear out the factory rubbers with my 140km daily ride.
Looks like you need to lean into your corners more.... plently of tread out on the sides mate!
Its a gixer man, they can only ride in a straight line (like harleys)
Toaster
28th May 2011, 20:50
A wise chap once told me to always spend good money on the things between you and the ground.
He said a good bed, good shoes and good tyres can make life a lot better.... better sleep, better for your body, better for safety, in that order.
AllanB
28th May 2011, 20:51
Pilot Road 2 (or 3).
Or try a Conti Road Attack 2.
I once had Conti Motions on my Shiver. They are the only tyres I've ever had that I've replaced before they were half worn. Seriously they scared me shitless riding in the wet. Both the front and the rear were ridiculously spontaneous, at the same time on occasion. Yes, they're cheap. There may be a good reason for that.
For your bike and riding needs, I'd recommend Avon Storm 2 Ultras.
The front tyre (Conti) was replaced by the shop I bought Millie from in order to get a new WOF. It has felt ok, though having said that I got a twitch that made me say "SHHHIIITTTT!!!!!!!!!!" not that long ago. Thanks Hitcher I will be aware. Front stability is quite important eh?
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I used Metzler M8 tyres on the Hayabusa.... harder wearing middle, more grippier sides - great for more confident riding in corners but useful for the long daily commute.
Will likely do the same to the Honda if they fit this bike once I wear out the factory rubbers with my 140km daily ride.
The rear on Millie was looking a bit square when I bought her, last Friday I had a good look at the tyre, yes square, but yes ok. 1200 kms and it is a totally different story.
Its a gixer man, they can only ride in a straight line (like harleys)
You working tomorrow?
Urano
28th May 2011, 20:57
Well one new one anyway.
I have a 5000k old Conti Motion on the front and a completely flogged out Bridgestone Battleaxe on the rear.
:shit:
YOU HAVE DIFFERENT TIRES???
i truly believe this is not good...
i can suggest z6 interact.
James Deuce
28th May 2011, 21:02
Hitcher and I had completely different experiences of the Conti Motions and I would suggest hugely different usage. I found them much better than Avon Vipers or Storms in the wet and cold conditions that prevail over the Winter commute. You need to use the manufacturer's recommended tyre pressure and check it weekly or they do feel "off", even at only a couple of psi difference.
Hitcher rode the Zed with the Motions on and had nothing untoward to say about them in that scenario. They didn't suit the Shiver though. I would suggest that a steel framed Bandit is roughly more similar to a steel framed Z750 than an aluminium lattice framed Shiver.
:shit:
YOU HAVE DIFFERENT TIRES???
i truly believe this is not good...
i can suggest z6 interact.
Yes, yes I do have miss matched tyres :yes:
That is what I inherited when I bought Millie. I have to replace the rear, I want one that fits my commute distance and my fun time. I have legs on my front tyre, but am not adverse to replacing that with plenty of tread if it means a safer ride for me. Right now I want a rear.
What is a z6 interact?
tz tony
28th May 2011, 21:11
I am using a pilot sport on the rear and a pilot sport 2ct on the front on our millie and I have no complaints at all.
You working tomorrow?
yep, come over for a coffee
Scouse
28th May 2011, 21:14
Well one new one anyway.
I have a 5000k old Conti Motion on the front and a completely flogged out Bridgestone Battleaxe on the rear. Funnily enough it was ok last Friday, square but ok. Have managed to do about 1200 kms this week and the tyre is no longer servicable. I need a tyre suitable for a 100km a day commute on the motorway of straightness, that will still allow a gentle lady rider to have a bit of fun on the twisty bits on the weekend. I dont want it to square off too quickly.
Advice welcome.Fuck just going on the thread title I thought you were having a crack at Millie Elder, you know poor little rich girl can't afford new shoes. However I was way of target this time.
_STAIN_
28th May 2011, 21:14
Pilot Road 2
What is a z6 interact?
that would be a Metzeller Z6 Interract
...than an aluminium lattice framed Shiver.
OUCH! :killingme
Am I hearing personal preference here?
I never push my luck on purpose, I am far too precious to others that love me. Sometimes that shows me up to be a huge nana. See my finger and rotate on it if I slow you down.
However, sometimes I push my luck by exhuberance, and sheer yeeha!
I want a tyre that will cope with my :yawn: commute, and forgive my yeeha moments...
James Deuce
28th May 2011, 21:29
No not at all, you're reading something into that that isn't there. What I was suggesting, without the ability to quantitatively test my supposition is that the stiffer chassis of the Shiver works its tyres a lot harder than mild steel framed chassis like your Bandit and my old Zed. There's a lot more lateral flex inherent in a steel frame than an over-engineered aluminium frame like that of the Shiver.
The Motions on my Zed were used to the edge and feathered up nicely with no cold tear. I have no idea how hard you ride during your "yehaa" moments, but I had no problem beveling footpegs on Motions.
I have no idea how hard you ride during your "yehaa" moments, but I had no problem beveling footpegs on Motions.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhh...
Question. How well do they hold up nana styles?
James Deuce
28th May 2011, 21:40
Ahhhhhhhhhhhh...
Question. How well do they hold up nana styles?
They wear evenly and never gave me concern on my Nana commute. I had the front squealing in the wet avoiding ham fisted lane changes by drivers of fogged up cars more than once and I never had the feeling that the tyres were my biggest issue in bad weather or just quietly riding to work in light traffic.
They don't square off as noticeably as Metzeler M3s when ridden in a Nana fashion.
some Michelin Pilot Road 2 will suit your riding perfectly
Im up for a rear replacement soon...:blink:
Yeah +1 on the Pilot Road 2's I had a set on my ER6 when I had it and I got 17k out of a set of them :-)
Just got a new set of the Pilot Road 3's for my predator and hoping will see some good miles out of them also!
I might have a look at them also Grant, I like the 2CT's that are currently on the bike but mmmmmmmm I well see how they stack up dollar wise against the 2's.
ynot slow
29th May 2011, 10:39
PR2 on big bandit got me just over 18000kms,needed new tyres a couple of weeks ago,they were ok I thought then just really lost tread depth lol.Chucked on (don't laugh)full bore tyres as per el cheapo,and seem bloody alright for me,no worries in wet or dry,mileage will suffer I believe,but mine were $449 fitted a set,so will do till hopefully after xmas/new year when PR3 will be tried.
riffer
29th May 2011, 17:33
I've used lots of tyres on the RF and the best combos I've found have been these:
Metzeler Z6 front and rear but the rear's shagged well before the front
Avon Viper front/Avon Storm rear
Continental Sport Attack front/Road Attack rear.
YMMV, but generally a softer front allied with a harder rear should give excellent ride with reasonable mileage. With the majority of my riding being fairly spirited commuting (I have no chicken strips whatsoever) I prefer the grip at the front and find I get about 10-11,000 kms out of a set of tyres.
yachtie10
29th May 2011, 20:27
PR2 on big bandit got me just over 18000kms,needed new tyres a couple of weeks ago,they were ok I thought then just really lost tread depth lol.Chucked on (don't laugh)full bore tyres as per el cheapo,and seem bloody alright for me,no worries in wet or dry,mileage will suffer I believe,but mine were $449 fitted a set,so will do till hopefully after xmas/new year when PR3 will be tried.
Tried full bore on my bandit and motions. I would use the motions over the fullbore just had better feel and i suspect better wet performance.
got pr2s on now to see if I get better milage
motions and full bore got 6000 ks each
but best ive ever had is 10,000 out of pilot roads
Ok, so I went and asked, and could not have fitted what I wanted. Time and distance does not allow me the ability to "pop" back in once they source what I want. It will be a full 2 weeks untill I can come back. That will be another 1000k's on a tyre that is only barely there now. Waiting for my first choice is not an option so I took advice from the store. I have new rubber on Millie. It is of PR3 variety. I hope I have been steered in the right direction.
Whatever, Mark and I have the same rubber on the rear, I do a 100k or thereabouts commute daily and he doesn't. I was assured this tyre will cope. We are keeping score :sunny:
p.dath
30th May 2011, 07:29
The conti motions I've had have been awesome. Completely confidence inspiring in all conditions on a 1200 bandit.
If you are commuting though, I would definitely recommend a 2CT rear.
+1. I would also go for a 2CT to improve commuting life.
Gremlin
30th May 2011, 10:19
As always, tyres are hugely subjective. My most obvious comparison is that Death and I used the same tyre, on the same model bike. He loved them, I hated them.
Once the PR3 comes out in the BMW size, both Hornet and BMW will only be shod with PR2 or PR3...
oh... and the Hornet PR2 front has around 18,500km on it... was shocked to realise a short while ago that the front had 18k on it... Never had that much before...
davebullet
30th May 2011, 11:35
We've now run 17,000kms on the SV650 with the PR2s. Absolutely brilliant tyre. Since a PR3 is 50% more in number than a PR2, based on the above numbers, I expect to get at least 29,000km (incl. GST) out of a set of PR3s when I re-shoe the Speed Triple. Especially when you apply the wheelie factor.
As always, tyres are hugely subjective. My most obvious comparison is that Death and I used the same tyre, on the same model bike. He loved them, I hated them.
Once the PR3 comes out in the BMW size, both Hornet and BMW will only be shod with PR2 or PR3...
oh... and the Hornet PR2 front has around 18,500km on it... was shocked to realise a short while ago that the front had 18k on it... Never had that much before...
I wont tell you how much I beleive I got outta of mine then...:blink:
I wont tell you how much I beleive I got outta of mine then...:blink:
Good value for money them tyres :yes:
NZsarge
30th May 2011, 20:56
Reckon PR3's were a good choice, apparently excellent wet weather tyre in particular, bodes well for commuting.
Reckon PR3's were a good choice, apparently excellent wet weather tyre in particular, bodes well for commuting.
Standby for the feed back. 18600kms and counting :yes:
NZsarge
30th May 2011, 21:01
Standby for the feed back. 18600kms and counting :yes:
How many k's now....? That was quick! :D
How many k's now....? That was quick! :D
Fucken hey! You too clever for me :rofl:
I am 240 kms into the wear of my new rear tyre. I posted 18600 so I have a record of where it started from :yes:
NZsarge
30th May 2011, 21:09
Fucken hey! You too clever for me :rofl:
I am 240 kms into the wear of my new rear tyre. I posted 18600 so I have a record of where it started from :yes:
:laugh: I thought you might have done 186km's and added a couple of zero's just to make it interesting so to speak...
vifferman
30th May 2011, 21:17
I'm a bit late to this thread, but I would've recommended the Michelins anyway. Not because I really like France after spending a few weeks there, but because my newish PP/PR2 combo is the best set of tyres I've ridden on, after years of other tyres (mainly Bridgestones and Avons in the last 10 years or so). Given the large amount of communtering on the non-twisty stuff, the Michelins with harder compound centre tread and softer edges should work well, and not square off too much.
I know what Hitcher's on about: I turfed a perfectly good (and newish) Avon Storm front tyre because I'd lost faith in it. First time I've ever chucked a tyre before being told I had a legal obligation to do so.
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