I almost smoked a biker today... [Archive]

D3ALN

1st June 2011, 17:30

Today i was driving home as you do when I was waiting to turn in to a side st I waited for all the cars then just as I started going I saw a biker I missed him by inches? He was riding to the far left. I was told your meant to ride as close to the center line without puttung yourself in harms way. How often do you see this?

Maha

1st June 2011, 17:36

So you were turning right? and the biker was coming towards you but to the far left of the oppsostie lane?

ducatilover

1st June 2011, 17:39

I prefer cigarettes :yes:

Oleg

1st June 2011, 17:42

i drew a mind map, so i get a funny feeling he had more chances to be seen by you in the left side, rather then right. kinda lost and confused here.

D3ALN

1st June 2011, 17:46

So you were turning right? and the biker was coming towards you but to the far left of the oppsostie lane?
yes that is true

Mom

1st June 2011, 18:10

yes that is true

Sounds like a classic SMIDNSY issue. A bike can ride whereever it wants to within a lane. There is no prescribed "proper" place. It really depends what you are doing.

Take your time to REALLY look for bikes, before you turn.

Ender EnZed

1st June 2011, 18:20

He was riding to the far left.

He was probably trying to put more space between himself and your car in case you tried turning in front of him.

jaffaonajappa

1st June 2011, 18:32

I almost smoked a biker today...

Were you gona roll him up first, and nip the ends?

Madness

1st June 2011, 18:44

I was on the bike last weekend and found myself in the same situation as your almost-smoked-biker. It made me realise that I need to be more aware of my surroundings and I should have moved into the right wheel track of my lane to increase my visibility. I don't like riding the centre line for some subconscious reason, may bee too many stains & rainbows?.

scumdog

1st June 2011, 19:01

Today i was driving home as you do when I was waiting to turn in to a side st I waited for all the cars then just as I started going I saw a biker I missed him by inches? He was riding to the far left. I was told your meant to ride as close to the center line without puttung yourself in harms way. How often do you see this?

Harumph, and there's me been thinking all this time that it was only 'cage' drivers and never a biker (even if in a 'cage') that made that mistake, silly old me:gob:...:rolleyes:

Mom

1st June 2011, 19:18

I don't like riding the centre line for some subconscious reason, may bee too many stains & rainbows?.

Apparently you should "technically" ride in the position of the car driver in front of you for maximum visibility. I tend to wander side to side so I am certain they HAVE seen me. I see the benefit of that in a steady stream of traffic, but frankly I am going to put myself in a place where I can see what is going on in front of me, as well as being seen by the blind driver up front. Lets not forget the cars behind you either, you need eyes in the back of your head too.

Oncoming traffic has to be watched with eagle eyes. My commute involves many intersections, with a large flush median for people to use. I use it and people turn in front of me. I see them coming (or observe the cars to my left yeilding to them, so they can turn) and adjust my speed accordingly. I go at a speed that I can stop immediately someone turns accross my path. I am still travelling faster than the stopped traffic alongside me.

unstuck

1st June 2011, 19:23

I almost smoked a 4wheel biker today,stupid prick parked on his quad in front of the D6 dozer and he nearly got squished.Fuck some people got no idea.:facepalm:

Maha

1st June 2011, 20:05

yes that is true

Was the biker obscured at all...by the car/s you were waiting for?

HenryDorsetCase

1st June 2011, 20:08

Harumph, and there's me been thinking all this time that it was only 'cage' drivers and never a biker (even if in a 'cage') that made that mistake, silly old me:gob:...:rolleyes:

I nearly killed myself last week: answered my cell phone while driving, talking away (work call.... stupid work). T intersection, me turning left. I stop, clock the big fucking truck approaching from my right, see the flashy light, and assume (theres that word....) he is turning left. Not so much, as I pull out I notice he has all his flashy lights on, because it is a BIG truck with a large OVERSIZE MOTHERFUCKER GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE WAY SIGN. on it. stopped and he goes in front of me.

turn off phone when driving now. its a bad look.

FJRider

1st June 2011, 20:10

So ... you "forgot" the bit in LAW ... you keep as far to the LEFT as is practical ...

YOUR fuck up ... NOT his ...

Madness

1st June 2011, 20:10

...turn off phone when driving now. its a bad look.

Are you a Policeman?

FJRider

1st June 2011, 20:13

turn off phone when driving now. its a bad look.

Not to mention EXPENSIVE look ...:facepalm:

D3ALN

1st June 2011, 22:52

Was the biker obscured at all...by the car/s you were waiting for?

indeed did not see him untill last minute.

Jantar

1st June 2011, 23:02

Was the biker obscured at all...by the car/s you were waiting for?

That was the impression I got as well. Another reason for riding in the same position on the road as if you were driving a car. (ie pretty close to the right hand wheel track)

Banditbandit

2nd June 2011, 09:54

I prefer cigarettes :yes:

At least with a biker there's some chance of getting a THC hit ...

Banditbandit

2nd June 2011, 10:00

So ... you "forgot" the bit in LAW ... you keep as far to the LEFT as is practical ...

YOUR fuck up ... NOT his ...

It's practical to see and be seen .. so I ride the centre line .. (probably about half a metre to a metre to the left of it and often just the right of the car in front of me) ... and like Mom, drift around to see what is happening and to be seen.

If I'd been the rider that nearly got smoked I would have drift out so the other bike could see me .. classic mistake of riders - hug the left line where you can easily be obscured behind the cars in front ..

(But if you're gonna hang on the centre line like I do, watch it in right hand corners, or you end up leaning OVER the right line and into the lane coming the other way ..)

avgas

2nd June 2011, 10:08

Bikers are stupid people. You need to watch out for them.
As for using the term smoke.
Your a retard.

Flip

2nd June 2011, 10:12

I have to admit that I have taken a biker out. It was many years ago in Wellington. He was passing me on the left while I was turning left into a service station on Adelade Rd. Didn't half fuck his BMW Paris Dakar but he was mostly OK. The shitty old company workshop ute hack had a few more scratches.

steve_t

2nd June 2011, 10:18

Your a retard.

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pzkpfw

2nd June 2011, 10:53

Bikers are stupid people. You need to watch out for them.
As for using the term smoke.
Your a retard.

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Stirts

2nd June 2011, 14:36

I almost smoked a biker today...

I smoked a biker today :shifty:

Were you gona roll him over first, and nip at the end?

Smoking 101 :niceone:

wysper

2nd June 2011, 14:52

My commute involves many intersections, with a large flush median for people to use. I use it

I have been watching riders do this in hammy lately, while on my commute home.

Some of them are fair fanging along, I was wondering what would happen if they met a rider coming along the other way, not a lot of room to miss each other splitting on those medians in some places (I am talking the painted ones, not the gardens :blink:). Especially with the heavy traffic meaning there is not alot of space to duck left and back into the line of traffic either. It would be quite easy to miss the on coming bikes headlight in amongst the oncoming traffics headlights.

TIBLE_90

2nd June 2011, 15:15

You just need to really watch out for bikes, they can be hard to see sometimes. Btw the motorcyclist can ride wherever he wants in the lane... I was hit by a car while riding due to the driver not seeing me, she T-boned right into me. So, just be careful from now on when pulling out from side roads eh

oneofsix

2nd June 2011, 15:16

Nearly got collected by a biker on Sunday. I was riding up the Akatara Hill road, hugging the left around a left hand bend because the four cages coming down the hill left me less than half the road. Next thing, on the tail of the cars comes a bike cutting the corner. In hindsight the image of him standing his bike up to avoid me was quite funny. I think I have worked out why he thought it was safe to cut the corner but it is a typical cager mistake. I suspect he noticed the lines the cages were taking, i.e. over half the road, and therefore assumed there was no on coming traffic :facepalm:

toycollector10

2nd June 2011, 17:20

When I'm on a bike approaching a traffic situation like this, that is, someone waiting to turn right in front of me, I'll flick to high beam and point myself straight at them for a second or so. This makes me the threat so the driver hopefully thinks to himself "Shit, dudes coming right at me, I hope he's seen me!" It just kind of wakes them up a bit.

Anyway, that's my thinking and it's worked so far.

Luckylegs

2nd June 2011, 17:25

When I'm on a bike approaching a traffic situation like this, that is, someone waiting to turn right in front of me, I'll flick to high beam and point myself straight at them for a second or so. This makes me the threat so the driver hopefully thinks to himself "Shit, dudes coming right at me, I hope he's seen me!" It just kind of wakes them up a bit.

Anyway, that's my thinking and it's worked so far.

Yup good plan, I do the exact same thing (albeit the high beam bit).

Ender EnZed

2nd June 2011, 17:47

When I'm on a bike approaching a traffic situation like this, that is, someone waiting to turn right in front of me, I'll flick to high beam and point myself straight at them for a second or so.

The risk with this would be them thinking that you've signalled that you're letting them in.

toycollector10

2nd June 2011, 17:58

The risk with this would be them thinking that you've signalled that you're letting them in.

I'm aware of that so don't use the technique all the time. It's all in the timing of the pass etc. Sometimes I'll give the bike a wiggle and then point right at them. You create movement tangental to/across their line of sight instead of just being a fixed target slowly getting bigger in the back of their eyeballs.

avgas

2nd June 2011, 18:13

Berries

3rd June 2011, 23:24

Today i was driving home as you do when I was waiting to turn in to a side st I waited for all the cars then just as I started going I saw a biker I missed him by inches? He was riding to the far left. I was told your meant to ride as close to the center line without puttung yourself in harms way. How often do you see this?I think they call it SMIDSY. Happens to a lot of cagers.

mulletman

5th June 2011, 00:25

I smoked a biker today :shifty:

Smoking 101 :niceone:

Dang ! :lol::2thumbsup