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craignzcd
1st June 2011, 19:28
hi...was wondering if the amount of km's on a 250 effect the performance very much....would like a new 250 but probably go second hand....have seen some with 15k -20k on the clock...anything in particular to keep an eye out for when checking these?....need to sit my theory first as have BHS before looking for a bike..any info would be helpful...cheers craig
The End
1st June 2011, 19:31
Depends on what condition the bike is in.
If it has been regularly serviced and generally kept in good nick, it should ride fine.
DrunkenMistake
1st June 2011, 19:35
depends on the bike,
If your getting a CBR with low km's then be very awear it has been imported at some point and the K's may have been wound back in Japan or by the dealership, but your going to be on for 2 years so a 20 year old bike with 40,000km is probably a realistic number maybe less, but I wouldnt buy anything over 50,000km if your gonna be a dedicated rider I think I put 10,000km on my 250 within 6 months then your looking at 20,000 - 25,000km over the 2 years your going to own it.
Most of those bikes have a fatality rate at about 75,000 - 100,000km anyways.
IMO.
craignzcd
1st June 2011, 19:47
will probably be looking at a hyosung gt250r around 2008-2009 ish....i know some people dont like but for the bigger guys out there learning its ideal....k's seem to be around 7-20,000k's....any basic things to look for?..ie loose chain,air filters etc....cheers craig
FJRider
1st June 2011, 19:51
CHECK THE REGISTRATION HISTORY (in NZ) ... against the year of manufacture ... 15-20 thou km's ... not really a big issue ... It should be obvious if it's been imported ... (if not stated )
Evidence of a REGULAR service is more important ...
Ignore the pesimest's ... get it looked over by a
a: A MATE you trust
b: A Bike shop/Mechanic you trust
I would go for B ...
YOUR bike ... (maybe) ... YOUR choice ...
Old Steve
1st June 2011, 20:09
I bought a 2005 Hyosung GV250 (the cruiser) with 9,500 km on the clock early in 2010. I'm not sure of it's maintenance history prior to when I purchased it. I had it delivered to a Hyosung dealer and serviced before I rode it away. Best to get any 2nd hand bike checked by an agent before you agree to buy it. Check chain tension (chain should lift only 20 mm) and tyre wear (I didn't like the way the ride felt once the tyres were down to a little over the legal minimum, maybe I replaced the tyres prematurely but I figure my safety depended mainly on the condition of the tyres).
I had the two sprockets and chain replaced at about 12,000 km. At 9,500 km when I got her, she was on her last chain adjustment. When I had the sprockets and chain replaced I got X-chain fitted and had a ScottOiler fitted. In the 14,000 km since I've had to adjust the chain only once.
At about 13,000 km I had a new rear tyre fitted, at 20,000 km I fitted new front brake pads, at 22,000 km I had a new front tyre fitted, at 24,000 km I had new rear brake shoes fitted (a GT250R would have rear disc brakes). The rear tyre isn't showing much wear even after 14,000 more km, maybe the first tyre was drying out and deteriorating - it was five years old after all.
I'm doing my own oil changes at 3,500 km intervals (3,500 km and 7,000 km) and putting it into the shop for a service every 10,000 km. In the last 15 months I've done over 17,000 km. Currently the odometer reads 26,900 km and she's running well.
Best maintenance I did was to take the baffles out of the mufflers - you'd have to fit something like Screaming Demons to a GT250R to get a similar exhaust sound.
tigertim20
1st June 2011, 20:24
hi...was wondering if the amount of km's on a 250 effect the performance very much....would like a new 250 but probably go second hand....have seen some with 15k -20k on the clock...anything in particular to keep an eye out for when checking these?....need to sit my theory first as have BHS before looking for a bike..any info would be helpful...cheers craig
it depends, a 4 year old bike with 10k on the clock? no worries.
a 18 year old bike with 10k on the clock? You need to be wary of other things, like it may have sat in a shed for ten years, which can wear into the headstock bearing etc.
Dont worry about the kms vs performance aspect, its your first bike, its going to make fuckall difference. Get a bike that is tidy, has receipts for work/maintenance done on it, and from someone who can answer questions about it and seems legit, and youll be fine.
The difference between a couple HP at the wheel can be easily made up by learning some skills.
racefactory
13th June 2011, 16:09
it depends, a 4 year old bike with 10k on the clock? no worries.
a 18 year old bike with 10k on the clock? You need to be wary of other things, like it may have sat in a shed for ten years, which can wear into the headstock bearing etc.
Dont worry about the kms vs performance aspect, its your first bike, its going to make fuckall difference. Get a bike that is tidy, has receipts for work/maintenance done on it, and from someone who can answer questions about it and seems legit, and youll be fine.
The difference between a couple HP at the wheel can be easily made up by learning some skills.
The best post on this thread.
That's right, kms don't mean fuck all. It's all about condition. Older bikes with low kms will be problematic as they will have been sat for a long time. High ks on older bikes is fine though. I've had a few older bikes with over 100,000km on the clock and they went just great because they were being used and maintained.
Richard Mc F
20th June 2011, 20:32
hi...was wondering if the amount of km's on a 250 effect the performance very much....would like a new 250 but probably go second hand....have seen some with 15k -20k on the clock...anything in particular to keep an eye out for when checking these?....need to sit my theory first as have BHS before looking for a bike..any info would be helpful...cheers craig
Get it checked over by a bike shop, I seen big km bikes that are just fine (sometimes they are mine:lol:) but a lot of damage can be done in a short time
GrayWolf
20th June 2011, 21:59
will probably be looking at a hyosung gt250r around 2008-2009 ish....i know some people dont like but for the bigger guys out there learning its ideal....k's seem to be around 7-20,000k's....any basic things to look for?..ie loose chain,air filters etc....cheers craig
Craig I'd go along with 90% of the advice given here.
CAUTION... Condition of the bike is a reasonable indicator, BUT so is the condition (attitude/appearance) of the owner. You could buy a bike that looks a little 'worn' but may be owned by a 365 rider (I put about 25-30,000 per year on my bike) So at 3 yrs ownership it will look a little 'worn' but mechanicaly it is serviced regularly, etc. I have seen immaculate looking 250's that are owned by 'street corner racer's' that would be far more suspect IMHO.
An old bike 15-20yrs with genuine low K's? be prepared for seals and bearing replacement... I bought a 17yr old bike with 30,000k... head bearings, rear monoshock (seal blew 2 up) fork seals, and both front caliper full seal replacements. Not the previous owners fault, 'simply hard seals due to lack of 'use'. Mechanicaly? Bloody great bike.
As a counter to my own arguement? I previously bought an FJ1200 with 16,000 on the clock 14 yrs old... only the clutch slave cylinder had to be replaced due to a seal leaking. Thats the lottery of a low K's old bike.
Nothing wrong with the 'hyobuckets'... some trash them, I've ridden distances with them in a group. On the road in 'real term' performance? They are as good as anything else.
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