Service to retrofit a pinlock insert

[chasio]

I'm sold on trying pinlock, but I'm not particularly keen to mis-drill my Shoei visor, nor to spend the crazy amount of money they want for a pinlock-ready one.

I remember a couple of years ago a guy in Wellington was retofitting pinlock inserts to any visor for $50 all inclusive. A bloody good deal, I'd say.

Does anyone know if anywhere around Auckland offers this? TIA.

Edit: or even just sells a kit like this one from the UK (http://www.ridersoffshore.com/shoei-pinlock-diy-kit-cx-1v-c-129_419_434.html)?

[imdying]

I would think any bike shop would do it... I hadn't considered that they wouldn't when I had mine fitted, I just went to my favourite.

[Laava]

Don't they come with a template? If not you just need to carefully work put where the holes are by putting a smallish piece of masking tape on and measuring it out with a sewing tape. I can give you the hole to hole centres if you need?
Also you should use a slighty blunt drill bit wrapped with tape so you can spin it and drill using your fingers.

[chasio]

Thanks for the replies.

I've been asking a few shops since posting. The DIY kits are not available and the insert packs don't include the pins. If they did I could maybe try offering up an insert, marking up the visor and doing the drilling with tape, as you suggest. One of those old-school hand-drills would probably be perfect for the job.

To get the pins here, it seems that I have to buy a replacement visor and I already have three visors. Call me a tight-arse, but I'm a bit strapped for cash at present.

A cynical person might suggest that the importer would rather sell a replacement visor plus insert than the available DIY insert kit for a third of the price. Shame on that cynic.

Meanwhile I might try ordering up the kit from the UK.

[awa355]

A Pinlock insert is $75.80 at one local dealer. I had scratched mine and am tossing up whether to get another. My visor is also marked slightly and at $70, the two soon start adding up.

On the weekend I wore my older helmet and tried the dish washing detergent trick on the inside of the visor. It worked ok, but didn't get enough rain to really test the idea.

[chasio]

Update: I found a cheaper source for the kit at racevisors.co.uk (http://www.racevisors.co.uk/category/accessories-pinlock-shoei#)

Anyone else want one?

[imdying]

Thinking of buying a helmet from there myself (replacement that I can't source in New Zealand).

[nodrog]

Update: I found a cheaper source for the kit at racevisors.co.uk (http://www.racevisors.co.uk/category/accessories-pinlock-shoei#)

Anyone else want one?


Thinking of buying a helmet from there myself (replacement that I can't source in New Zealand).

They are good to deal with, I get all my visors from them. Recently got new lining and checkpads for my Arai, took less than a week to arrive.

[chasio]

They are good to deal with, I get all my visors from them. Recently got new lining and checkpads for my Arai, took less than a week to arrive.

Thanks for the feedback on the vendor. There are now two of us after a DIY kit, so I'll get the ducks in a row and get an order in.

[chasio]

Thanks for the feedback on the vendor. There are now two of us after a DIY kit, so I'll get the ducks in a row and get an order in.

Got the kit yesterday and fitted it this morning. Piece of cake.

The template makes marking up the position for the holes very easy. I marked it with a fine-tipped jewellers' screwdriver, then started the hole just using the bit in my fingers (a tip I read on here somewhere, I think). Once each hole was well established, I finished up with an 18v driver at low speed.

Pins went in nicely and the insert seems to be bang on first time :)

Incidentally, the kit came with three pins with the bit & template and another three with the insert. So I will prep another one of my visors as well, and keep two pins as spares.

So... I now have the template (for a Shoei CX-1V) and supplied bit (any visors). Next time I'll just buy an insert and if anyone around Auckland wants to do the same and pop over to use them, drop me a PM.

[ckai]

Got the kit yesterday and fitted it this morning. Piece of cake.

The template makes marking up the position for the holes very easy. I marked it with a fine-tipped jewellers' screwdriver, then started the hole just using the bit in my fingers (a tip I read on here somewhere, I think). Once each hole was well established, I finished up with an 18v driver at low speed.

Pins went in nicely and the insert seems to be bang on first time :)

Incidentally, the kit came with three pins with the bit & template and another three with the insert. So I will prep another one of my visors as well, and keep two pins as spares.

So... I now have the template (for a Shoei CX-1V) and supplied bit (any visors). Next time I'll just buy an insert and if anyone around Auckland wants to do the same and pop over to use them, drop me a PM.

This is good to know. I was looking at getting a kit from them for the same visor as you funnily enough. It's for my wifes visor and at the moment, since we're short on moolaa, we're trying the anti-fog spray to tie her over.

Eventually we'll get the get knowing now that it's not too scary :)

[Mully]

This is good to know. I was looking at getting a kit from them for the same visor as you funnily enough. It's for my wifes visor and at the moment, since we're short on moolaa, we're trying the anti-fog spray to tie her over.

Motomail and Cyclespot (I presume others too) have non-pinlock inserts (i.e. they just stick on.)

I had one on my old HJC cos I wasn't brave enough to try to drill holes in my visor.

Not as good as Pinlock, but IMHO, work better than the spray.

~$20 IIRC

[Mully]

~$20 IIRC

Whey hey

Not ~$20 - but EXACTLY $20

http://www.motomail.co.nz/estore/style/rjfogflm.aspx

[TOTO]

to be honest - you get what you pay for.
you pay $20 and it will last you a month. You get the proper visor and the pinlock for a little more and it will last you 2 years. your choice.

[chasio]

Motomail and Cyclespot (I presume others too) have non-pinlock inserts (i.e. they just stick on.)

I had one on my old HJC cos I wasn't brave enough to try to drill holes in my visor.

Not as good as Pinlock, but IMHO, work better than the spray.

~$20 IIRC

My experience with that kit was that making the holes was not an issue. The template means you're bang on target and a bit of patience and the right bit was all that was needed to get a good clean hole with no 'oops' scratches.

If you shop around you might get a Pinlock insert (e.g. for Shoei) for $50 here in NZ and I think they come with pins. No template and no drill are provided, but I'd be happy to be contacted about that by any local KB'ers. I know some people have just offered up the insert and drilled it, but I can see that would be harder.

And FWIW, I rode in a monster hailstorm yesterday that would usually have meant fog-up central. The pinlocked visor stayed completely clear. Same going to and from work. I can finally breathe easy at traffic lights in the rain.

I should have gone Pinlock years ago. I certainly wouldn't buy a replacement visor that wasn't Pinlock ready, either.

[Mully]

I should have gone Pinlock years ago. I certainly wouldn't buy a replacement visor that wasn't Pinlock ready, either.

Agreed.

Once you go pinlock, you never go.... umm, bock?

[Berries]

to be honest - you get what you pay for.
you pay $20 and it will last you a month. You get the proper visor and the pinlock for a little more and it will last you 2 years. your choice.
I've got a pinlock smoked visor on my fairly new Shoei. Had to dig the clear visor out a couple of weeks ago for the dark winter commute so got a Fog City insert. Had these on my last lid and they lasted for I don't know how many years, must be at least five, and that was every day riding. Was very impressed the first time I used them, shame I put this one on upside down. Doh. But a very good alternative to pinlock. 35 bucks.

[Highlander]

Thanks for the replies.

I've been asking a few shops since posting. The DIY kits are not available and the insert packs don't include the pins. If they did I could maybe try offering up an insert, marking up the visor and doing the drilling with tape, as you suggest. One of those old-school hand-drills would probably be perfect for the job.

To get the pins here, it seems that I have to buy a replacement visor and I already have three visors. Call me a tight-arse, but I'm a bit strapped for cash at present.

A cynical person might suggest that the importer would rather sell a replacement visor plus insert than the available DIY insert kit for a third of the price. Shame on that cynic.

Meanwhile I might try ordering up the kit from the UK.

The replacement packs I have bought have always contained the pins. Was no problem drilling the holes, job done in about 10 minutes.

[Spukey]

I just recently purchased a Pinlock DIY kit from here http://www.racevisors.co.uk/product/accessories-pinlock-universal-diy

It cost NZ$67 (yikes, I know!) and it came with a drill bit, fog-free insert, and three pinlock 'pins'.

I just spent some time placing the insert on the inside of my visor and marked the holes with a fine tipped permanent marker. I carefully drilled a pilot hole at low speed with a 2.5mm drill bit, then slowly with the drill bit supplied.

The holes I drilled were slightly out, but the 'pins' have an off-centred centre cam arrangement, so by rotating the pins to suit you can get it perfect.

I did two visors no problem, and encourage anyone who can use a battery drill to give it a go.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I agree with that. If I can do it, truly anyone can.