McIntosh BR1 on ebay [Archive]

ktm84mxc

9th June 2011, 09:33

Just found a 1982 McIntosh BR1 Bathurst rep on Ebay ref 200616326412 bikes in Japan its the road version very low miles looks as new.
Some one needs to bring this Home to NZ bidding starts at US$ 10g.
If only I had da readies.

cs363

9th June 2011, 11:14

Link for those interested: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_rdcZ1QQitemZ200616326412QQruZh ttpQ3aQ2fQ2fshopQ2eebayQ2ecomQ3a80Q2fiQ2ehtmlQ3fQ5 ffromQ3dR40Q26Q5ftrksidQ3dp5197Q2em570Q2el1313Q26Q 5fnkwQ3d200616326412Q26Q5fsacatQ3dSeeQ2dAllQ2dCate goriesQ26Q5ffviQ3d1

Looks pretty sharp, and good buying if the price doesn't get jacked up much further...

HenryDorsetCase

9th June 2011, 11:31

Fark! good spotting!

I've asked a client who buys out of Japan for a shipping quote. worth sticking a bit of money on the mortgage for I reckon.

HenryDorsetCase

9th June 2011, 11:33

If nothing else Ive got new desktop wallpaper

Katman

9th June 2011, 13:01

If nothing else Ive got new desktop wallpaper

Probably a bit more within your budget.

Brian d marge

9th June 2011, 13:10

Wasnt one stolen awhile back? was it ever recovered ?

Stephen

HenryDorsetCase

9th June 2011, 14:05

Probably a bit more within your budget.

the price was right.

ktm84mxc

9th June 2011, 14:11

bistard

9th June 2011, 15:13

Wasnt one stolen awhile back? was it ever recovered ?

Stephen

That one that got stolen, was one of Roger Freeths actual race bikes & has never been seen again, damn shame,good piece on NZ racing history gone

tigertim20

9th June 2011, 15:33

cool find!!!

jaffaonajappa

9th June 2011, 15:51

Ahhhh damn. Gota buy two lotto tickets this week :sick:

Wouldnt it be great if it went for under 40k, and a kiwi bought it back home..?

Kickaha

9th June 2011, 18:20

I've asked a client who buys out of Japan for a shipping quote. worth sticking a bit of money on the mortgage for I reckon.

If you did manage to buy that I would quite possibly hate you for the rest of your natural life

I remember talking to a guy at the Castrol 6 hour who was riding one back about 86-87, seriously cool bit of kit

jellywrestler

9th June 2011, 18:57

That one that got stolen, was one of Roger Freeths actual race bikes & has never been seen again, damn shame,good piece on NZ racing history gone

Not so Barry, it has been found, albeit pretty well cut up

Kickaha

9th June 2011, 19:00

Not so Barry, it has been found, albeit pretty well cut up

Did they catch the people that did it? Did they know what they had stolen?

Is it able to be rebuilt?

HenryDorsetCase

9th June 2011, 19:01

Not so Barry, it has been found, albeit pretty well cut up

:( makes me sad

jellywrestler

9th June 2011, 21:34

Is it able to be rebuilt?
anything can be rebuilt...

MIXONE

9th June 2011, 22:05

Great exchange rate at the moment too.

bistard

10th June 2011, 10:35

Not so Barry, it has been found, albeit pretty well cut up

Shit, I had not heard that they got it back,where was it found?? What the hell were they trying to do when cutting it up???

jellywrestler

10th June 2011, 19:27

Shit, I had not heard that they got it back,where was it found?? What the hell were they trying to do when cutting it up???
I'm not one to gossip but...
I did hear that when it was pinched it was in gear, and rather than click it out they pushed it some distance still in gear leaving a tyre mark.
This indicates to me that they were more opportunists than target bike thieves
I know no more than the article you see

HenryDorsetCase

12th June 2011, 13:48

So, the auction has ended early "Because the item is no longer available".

:(

HenryDorsetCase

12th June 2011, 13:53

I had even told the bank manager i might need a bank draft and found out about shipping and stuff.... dont know if I would have had the balls to make it happen, but now I will never know.

it is totally worth checking out their own site (not ebay): check out some of the Kenny Roberts exotica. Get yourself a KR5 if you've got the wallet. It should be eligible for Bears racing here: it was made in Blighty after all

http://rmdmotors.com/

HenryDorsetCase

12th June 2011, 13:57

Holy shit!

they sold one of Spencer's NS500's.

http://rmdmotors.com/freddie-spencers-ns500-nsr250/

Best looking HRC paintjob of all time IMO.

jaffaonajappa

12th June 2011, 17:58

Holy shit!

they sold one of Spencer's NS500's.

http://rmdmotors.com/freddie-spencers-ns500-nsr250/

Best looking HRC paintjob of all time IMO.

Im reading that page as: They are selling them, not already sold...?

wont be under 100k. Could well be three times that much actually.....?

I sent them an email....asking em to keep an eye out for some footpegs for a GN250...

ktm84mxc

12th June 2011, 20:01

Hope the buyer rides it, 2 many sit hidden away.
Betta keep buying those lotto tickets, C some off those RG's ended up in that pommy's collection seen in classic racer.
Gotta b a web site to keep on file, real bikes run pre mix.

nudemetalz

12th June 2011, 21:20

Still can see Dr R Freeth punting 1 around Manukau City circa 1981 doing battle with the Hiscock bros, R Holden, B Toomey, G Williams, V Sharpe etc
The little prat Tony Palmer doing hiz speil on 1 outside Mike Vinsen m/c on beach road before the DR took it 2 Bathurst. Will we ever see those days again?

My old man was the workshop manager at Mike Vinsens in '81-83 and I remember him bringing home a GSX-750 powered one, one of the first road-legal ones made. Apparently people were just staring at it at the lights like it was a spaceship !!
Remember him saying that it just handled incredibly well.

jellywrestler

12th June 2011, 22:24

My old man was the workshop manager at Mike Vinsens in '81-83 and I remember him bringing home a GSX-750 powered one
That was the first road mcintosh made from memeory, and the only 750 version.
It was on trade me a couple of years ago out west auckland, think it ended up in queenstown.
He made very few complete road bikes, simply couldn't afford to buy a lot of the running gear so most left his workshop as kits.

the one in japan is quite a bitsa, late model instruments and aftermarket swingarm etc. pretty well no two were identical but there are more 'standard' ones around
Also rare with a gs1000. around that time he made a handfull of kawasakis before switching to suzuki and almost by then the gsx motors were around so most were gsx/katana powered

ktm84mxc

13th June 2011, 09:36

nudemetalz

13th June 2011, 10:14

Yep those were the days bike shops every where ova a dozen in auk, bought a new bike every yr from vinsens, a real family affair with Mike, David, Ian, Richard.
Cliff , Lester & Mike in the work shop, Clint doing spares/accessories.
Even ended up working for them latter on.

I did too as a bike detailer at 17 years old in 1987 !!!
I remmeber Cliff, he had a GS1000S from memory...damn thats scratching the memory banks !!!
Dad (Clint) got me a brand new 1982 RM80Z from Vinsens which I raced .

Anyway, sorry getting off the subject here.
Let me help with some eye-candy !!!

HenryDorsetCase

13th June 2011, 11:42

geoffm

13th June 2011, 16:14

I remember as a Yuff, seeing a Macintosh for sale in Colemnas - $10k. This would have been very late 80s.
Friend of a friend had one when I was at uni.
Great for the time (especially compared to the original GS) but still a big heavy bugger.

slowpoke

16th June 2011, 05:50

I couldnt have afforded it, got an email from Rick at RMD.

:(

Put it this way, if I was putting myself in hock for a bike I would be more likely to buy an RC30, or RC45 (and yes I know they made a buttload more of those than they did of these)

That RG500 he has is a minter though.

Hmmm, dunno, as collectable as an RC30/45 is on the international market, if I had the choice of a mint RC30 or one of Ken's finest to park in the lounge room (I've already got a spot picked out) I'd rather walk past the McIntosh every day. Different era 'n all but there's just something more emotive about 'em that stirs my guts.

(just whisper in my lug 'ole, how much of my soul would I have to sell?)

jaffaonajappa

16th June 2011, 21:37

Hmmm, dunno, as collectable as an RC30/45 is on the international market, if I had the choice of a mint RC30 or one of Ken's finest to park in the lounge room (I've already got a spot picked out) I'd rather walk past the McIntosh every day. Different era 'n all but there's just something more emotive about 'em that stirs my guts.

(just whisper in my lug 'ole, how much of my soul would I have to sell?)

Must say, I concur. I too would take the BR. probably any of the hand crafted, halk fairing, earlier bikes. The RC30 is still "the bike" that made me think I really had to get a job, after leaving school - it was that nice. But nowadays...well....any of the newer jappa faired race bikes look cooler. And their quality of finnish is usually as good, or better. Whereas an older (aka SB1 or BR1) jappa special is still that. Special, and almost unique - and not copied by the gazillion these days.

ktm84mxc

17th June 2011, 09:33

To me a McIntosh is a kin to the Kiwi spirit off lets build it better & faster an real bloke in hiz shed, we all don't have the skill but we all wished we did have.
A Roberts, Harris, Egli, etc frame kit/build does the same.
RC/RVF, YZF ow01, GSXR le, ZXR rr, VTR sp1, na all the same a mass produced bike, cud you build it ummmm no.
This is why custom choppers are so popular.

jellywrestler

17th June 2011, 10:03

A Roberts, Harris, Egli, etc frame kit/build does the same.
RC/RVF, YZF ow01, GSXR le, ZXR rr, VTR sp1, na all the same a mass produced bike, cud you build it ummmm no.
This is why custom choppers are so popular.
what about a Roberts built Chopper then?240907

ktm84mxc

17th June 2011, 11:42

Well that's the best GS L series I've seen. Certainly a 1 off, beat it wudn't go 2 well around Gracefield or over Rimutaka Hills.

jellywrestler

17th June 2011, 12:22

Well that's the best GS L series I've seen. Certainly a 1 off, beat it wudn't go 2 well around Gracefield or over Rimutaka Hills.
I remember Fonzie from Happy days adjusting his mirrors. He asked Ritchie which looked better Ritchie asked which position he could see best.
He replied I don't want to see where I've been, it's how cool I look getting there...

Word has it that it handled pretty weel.
It has a rising rate rear monoshock, built in 1981. Bimota were the first to use that for their SB1/2 only a couple of years earlier.

HenryDorsetCase

17th June 2011, 12:25

ktm84mxc

17th June 2011, 13:44

You may b correct HenryD on the RC, itz still a mass produced bike aka a Bimota[hand built also] eg large production run to qualify for racing SBK.
A NR 750 now were talking oval pistons, 8 valves per cylinder, but at a $100g nz?
Or a 998 Ducati V4 ,or that V8 machine from europe.
The same for TZ's u'd want an OW works 1st, RG an XR works 1st.
Just my views.

Voltaire

18th June 2011, 19:11

What does hand built mean? Are Japanese bikes assembled by robots?
I went to the BMW factory in Berlin in 1989 and they had just ditched machine built and gone back to hand built. A bevel drive Ducati motor took 8 hours to assemble... I did a Kawasaki 1000 motor in less than that....and I was slow.

jellywrestler

27th June 2011, 21:26

So back to the Mcintosh in question.
Anybody know how many GS1000 bikes he made?
There was the race bike for Keith Turner, that Freeth and Hiscock had a play on, then there was the GS1000R that Colemans funded for Hiscock to go to Europe on and the one that's on the second post in this thread.
Any clues?

Grumph

28th June 2011, 06:16

all the RC30's were hand made by HRC in the HRC shop

Allegedly built by guys seconded from the toolroom who were supposed to have selectively assembled them to closer tolerances than the usual street bikes..
If the one I rebuilt was any indication they should have stuck to the usual assembly staff - the bores weren't parallel to each other - and were tapered too. The finish on the crank where the oil galleries broke out left a lot to be desired as well.
Gearboxes were a bit hit & miss - if you got a good one,great, if not there's not a lot you could do about it.
I'd still have one though - when sorted they're very impressive.

McIntoshes - why not just ask Ken ?

shrub

7th July 2011, 16:31

I've just contacted Satan and asked if he wants my soul, and if so the going price is whatever that BR1 goes for.

jellywrestler

7th July 2011, 16:41

I've just contacted Satan and asked if he wants my soul, and if so the going price is whatever that BR1 goes for.long gone
sold for $19950 AUD

shrub

7th July 2011, 16:55

long gone
sold for $19950 AUD

That's a tragedy and a bargain

matthewt

7th July 2011, 18:10

McIntoshes - why not just ask Ken ?

I asked him several years ago. He's not interested.

Kickaha

7th July 2011, 18:30

I asked him several years ago. He's not interested.

Probably making to much money out of the pretend Manx Nortons to bother with it

matthewt

7th July 2011, 18:32

Probably making to much money out of the pretend Manx Nortons to bother with it

Yeah, he was busy making parts for some other marque to bother. That was early 90's I spoke to him.

slowpoke

7th July 2011, 20:33

I dunno if he just wants to let sleeping dogs lie and preserve the legend, but I reckon there'd be a fair ol' market for his McIntosh "Bathurst" type frames. There is a huge resurgence in classic/post-classic racing. Harris are churning out XR69 frames as fast as they can make 'em, and I reckon Ken would be rushed off his feet too. It's just a question of whether he wants to be.......

Grumph

8th July 2011, 07:00

Ken's like anyone else in business - you make what sells. If there's a dip in the Manx market, he'll make something else.
Some years back I was approached to make a replica BRS frame to use in racing rather than the original the guy owned. After pricing it up I heard no more. I've since been told that Ken made the guy a fresh frame...If you want Ken's time and attention approach him with cash.....

bistard

8th July 2011, 08:05

long gone
sold for $19950 AUD

Any idea who purchased it & where it will end up??????

jellywrestler

8th July 2011, 08:34

Any idea who purchased it & where it will end up??????

nah went out through EBAY. Given that the auction was Aussie wide and they are worth something in Aussie and NZ and pretty well nowhere else my guess is Aussie...

ktm84mxc

8th July 2011, 09:04

As I started this thread here's a few facts.
I found the McIntosh on ebay their US site under suzuki's other. I look at them all you'd be surprised whats 4 sale.
Yes post classic racing is huge in europe with lots of meets & riders both young & old.
The big 4 strokes are making a comeback with rep XR69's & RC1100r's etc
20g Aus $ a steal at that price as you cud either race it or ride it on the road & be the envy of your mates.