Starter rollers

[Mental Trousers]

Been looking for a set of rollers that can be used to start my bike at track and got a hell of a fright when I had a gander at trademe and ebay. While I'm sure the workmanship and quality of the products are fabulous, $1800.00 is just not funny.

Anyone know of any (cheaper) alternatives??

[budda]

Been looking for a set of rollers that can be used to my bike at track and got a hell of a fright when I had a gander at trademe and ebay. While I'm sure the workmanship and quality of the products are fabulous, $1800.00 is just not funny.

Anyone know of any (cheaper) alternatives??

try Ross Ennis in Christchurch - gent of advanced years, makes an excellent set of 12v ones that he sells to other "older chaps" for starting their exotica

Not certain how he got on in the wobbles, but his ph used to be 03 3886168

[sharky]

Been looking for a set of rollers that can be used to my bike at track and got a hell of a fright when I had a gander at trademe and ebay. While I'm sure the workmanship and quality of the products are fabulous, $1800.00 is just not funny.

Anyone know of any (cheaper) alternatives??


Yep - push!

[Tony.OK]

try Ross Ennis in Christchurch - gent of advanced years, makes an excellent set of 12v ones that he sells to other "older chaps" for starting their exotica

Not certain how he got on in the wobbles, but his ph used to be 03 3886168

http://www.roscosrollers.com/apps/webstore/products/show/1525048

See bottom of page for NZ orders.


For New Zealand orders, please feel free to contact Rosco direct in NZ via rlsm@paradise.co.nz or ChCh 03 3886168

[codgyoleracer]

How bout those lawnmower motor driven ones with a go kart wheel driving the tyre, where ? , who ? how $ ?

[Mental Trousers]

How bout those lawnmower motor driven ones with a go kart wheel driving the tyre, where ? , who ? how $ ?

They'd do the job as well.

[Tony.OK]

How bout those lawnmower motor driven ones with a go kart wheel driving the tyre, where ? , who ? how $ ?

http://www.foxleystarters.com/5.html

[k1w160]

Yep, build your own.
I got a 24v mitsubishi starter motor off trademe for $75, picked up some conveyor rollers and side plates, a few sprockets, some chain etc and got it pretty much sorted in a couple of days for under $500.
The 24V is a bit of over kill, but it'll start anything, and isn't too heavy for one person.

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I've added a cover over the chains / starter motor, some non slip rubber on the rollers (would knurl them if I did it again) and a coat of black paint since the photo.

[RobGassit]

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Aussy Postie racers do this with a grinder. Will start anything.

[Mental Trousers]

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Aussy Postie racers do this with a grinder. Will start anything.

I've seen something similar. Looks like a good, cheap way to do it. Especially with a bike that uses tyre warmers cos you're always going to have a 240v power source handy.

[RobGassit]

If you don't mind the odd hospital visit, you could try building one of these. Probably pay to wear a mouthguard too
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[tigertim20]

Been looking for a set of rollers that can be used to start my bike at track and got a hell of a fright when I had a gander at trademe and ebay. While I'm sure the workmanship and quality of the products are fabulous, $1800.00 is just not funny.

Anyone know of any (cheaper) alternatives??

look at making your own!

[jellywrestler]

Anyone know of any (cheaper) alternatives??
try A hill

[Rodger96]

Ive got a set of rossco's rollers Well worth the coin we spent on getting them.

[DEATH_INC.]

I think Ed (gixser) still has his...give him a holler...

[gixerracer]

I think Ed (gixser) still has his...give him a holler...

Except he does not own them so he best not be selling them:mad:

[DEATH_INC.]

Except he does not own them so he best not be selling them:mad:
Righto....I didn't know that. He still had it a few weeks ago when I was there....
(btw, he wasn't trying to sell them...I just know he prolly wouldn't need 'em again...)

[DEATH_INC.]

Ok, maybe I meant ask gixxerracer about the one's ed has.... :p

[Kickaha]

Personally I would look for a set that work off a 12 volt battery and have a foot operated switch, that way you're not reliant on a source of 240v power or someone to help you

[geoffm]

Yep, build your own.
I got a 24v mitsubishi starter motor off trademe for $75, picked up some conveyor rollers and side plates, a few sprockets, some chain etc and got it pretty much sorted in a couple of days for under $500.
The 24V is a bit of over kill, but it'll start anything, and isn't too heavy for one person.

<a href="http://s63.photobucket.com/albums/h135/kiwi60/?action=view&amp;current=startrollers001481x640.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h135/kiwi60/startrollers001481x640.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

I've added a cover over the chains / starter motor, some non slip rubber on the rollers (would knurl them if I did it again) and a coat of black paint since the photo.

Where did you get the gear from to match the starter motor? the car ones I have looked at in the past seem to use some orphan gear.

[Mental Trousers]

Personally I would look for a set that work off a 12 volt battery and have a foot operated switch, that way you're not reliant on a source of 240v power or someone to help you

240v is necessary for the tyre warmers (it's an F3 bike running slicks). Only time the warmers aren't used is when it's wet and then I'm in a pit shed. All 3 of the North Island tracks have sheds with power. Only time I might have a problem is at Paeroa or Wanganui, where I'd have to use a generator for the warmers anyway.

I reckon using a Grinder is much simpler.

[Grumph]

I looked at doing a similar style of 240v rollers - price up the same size buffer vs a grinder - there were some bargains around. Drive via a quill shaft through one roller to absorb shock loads.

BTW for those interested - Ross Ennis - Rosco - is OK, house is in 3 pieces though...

[cowpoos]

How bout those lawnmower motor driven ones with a go kart wheel driving the tyre, where ? , who ? how $ ?

rotary hoe conversion?

[jaffaonajappa]

Interesting home made one here - seems pretty basic?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-382210031.htm

[k1w160]

Where did you get the gear from to match the starter motor? the car ones I have looked at in the past seem to use some orphan gear.

I took the starter motor down to Gear Cutting Services in Ellerslie and had one made to suit - about $120 and one week.

[trustme]

Be gentle , I am a total newb to this game

Winston is being readied for his debut , hopefully at Hampton Downs in 2 months, also the debut of his mug rider

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Will that grinder driven starter have enough guts to start a twin ???

[Mental Trousers]

If you put a decent grinder on it it'll start anything.

[RobGassit]

Be gentle , I am a total newb to this game

Winston is being readied for his debut , hopefully at Hampton Downs in 2 months, also the debut of his mug rider



Will that grinder driven starter have enough guts to start a twin ???

Will do if you buy a grunty one. Check out the specs in the pics on my post #9. 2200w will cold start a high comp twin or 4cyl postie in it's sleep. You have to be quick with the clutch when they catch though. I watched some clown at the Island nearly Phuck his mates starter by reving the engine in gear after it lit. Grinders like to give, not receive, if you know what I mean? Bit like me really.:facepalm:

[trustme]

Thanks for that.:yes::yes:

[tigertim20]

you could make one easily if you look on trademe for a petrol weedeater with a fucked shaft. chop shaft, little fab work, and boom, light, portable starter!!

[DrunkenMistake]

you could make one easily if you look on trademe for a petrol weedeater with a fucked shaft. chop shaft, little fab work, and boom, light, portable starter!!

Oh TT is good at race starters, We attempted to fire up a bucket racer using one of his,

It used an R1 on a race stand and the bucket on a race stand ....:facepalm:

[tigertim20]

and the fuckin honda still wouldnt start!!

we should have dynod the bucket like that . . .

[DrunkenMistake]

and the fuckin honda still wouldnt start!!

we should have dynod the bucket like that . . .

Lolz,

I love how it wore through the tyre on the R1 and still didnt fire,


Then after kicking the shit out of it and hitting it with a hammer, it fired up with a kick.

[sturgis]

Originally Posted by budda



try Ross Ennis in Christchurch - gent of advanced years, makes an excellent set of 12v ones that he sells to other "older chaps" for starting their exotica

Not certain how he got on in the wobbles, but his ph used to be 03 3886168
http://www.roscosrollers.com/apps/we...s/show/1525048

See bottom of page for NZ orders.

For New Zealand orders, please feel free to contact Rosco direct in NZ via rlsm@paradise.co.nz or ChCh 03 3886168
Ph No still the same, but email changed to rlsm@clearnet.co.nz
Rosco's Rollers Pty Ltd (based in Australia) distribute worldwide, including NZ.
However Ross Ennis in ChCh, NZ still takes the occasional order.
Please feel free to contact Ross, or alternately, contact Rosco's Rollers via
www.roscosrollers.com

[gatch]

Be gentle , I am a total newb to this game

Winston is being readied for his debut , hopefully at Hampton Downs in 2 months, also the debut of his mug rider

246189

Will that grinder driven starter have enough guts to start a twin ???

Nice one mate. Are you planning on heading to the nzcmrr round at manfield in november ?

[trustme]

Goal is debut at Hampton Downs, Labour Weekend.

Waiting for an AP master cylinder to arrive. Mate does the wiring over the next couple of weeks. Once it is going I'll probably give it to Shaun Harris for a once over.

November is getting one step ahead of myself but yeah i'd like to.

[speights_bud]

Thread Dredge...

I'm re-visitng the starting rollers I made for Guy Martin's visit to cemetery circuit last year. They were made to start a Manx Norton with a 2000W Grinder and They do that very well :).

I gave them to the bike owner as I have no real use for them these days & over the last year a few things have gotten a bit niggly. The switch blew out, its too heavy and also needs a rubber mat underneath it.

Here's some pics of the second version, soon to be V3.0.

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[Grumph]

Are you driving the roller at the grinder end ? I'd thought of using a quill shaft through the roller to drive on the other end - just to build in a little shock absorbing element to protect the grinder gears.....

[speights_bud]

The grinder just threads directly into the roller shaft. But the shafts go right through. It's an older type of grinder without the soft start. Seems to work fine.
Most important thing is to let the wheel build up momentum before slipping the clutch, dumping it will just skid the tyre. At a little over 14:1 the big single also needs to be cycled backwards to the compression stroke.

A cushion drive certainly wouldn't hurt though

[nodrog]

Starter motors rule!

[trustme]

Not pretty but it works

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee62/trustme_photos/IMG_0160_zps469baf95.jpg (http://s233.photobucket.com/user/trustme_photos/media/IMG_0160_zps469baf95.jpg.html)

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee62/trustme_photos/IMG_0159_zps96a4e94c.jpg (http://s233.photobucket.com/user/trustme_photos/media/IMG_0159_zps96a4e94c.jpg.html)

Pete Lodge starting up his fire breathing ES2

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee62/trustme_photos/IMG_0251_zps8959b8c3.jpg (http://s233.photobucket.com/user/trustme_photos/media/IMG_0251_zps8959b8c3.jpg.html)

[Anmic]

Some good ideas there, think im gonna go with the grinder option.

[chrisc]

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