Haldanes

[kel]

As we all know racing costs money and we all appreciate the support we get from our local bike shop and of course they profit from our obsession.
Ive been dealing with Haldanes since I started out with bikes back in the eighties. Bob always looked after us giving great support and good discounts, the man new how to secure a customer, he was a natural salesman.
Im sad to say my relationship with Haldanes ended today not only did I get over charged ($50 to change tyres without balancing, ultimately being charged $42) but I also copped a whole lot of attitude when I voiced my disapproval, who is that nasty woman?
Im officially taking my business for oils, seals, leavers, helmets, gloves etc somewhere else! Nice move lady, add that to your profit and loss sheet.

:2guns:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Did it occur to you that the 'lady' didn't know you from a bar of soap?

In my experience...a lot of 'racers' expect everything for nothing, and think they are something they're not.

[MIXONE]

And in my experience a lot of bike shop staff forget that we are the customers and treat us with some disdain.
I'm happy to say that this is not the case in most Wellington shops.

[c4.]

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[Voltaire]

I had some tyres swapped over on my bucket a while back...was about $30.... they were going to charge me for leaving the old tyres there but didn't. The guys in the workshop seem ok.....as for the counter bloke.....

[Crasherfromwayback]

And in my experience a lot of bike shop staff forget that we are the customers and treat us with some disdain.
I'm happy to say that this is not the case in most Wellington shops.

Yeah...but most of the shops that hire such plebs are now out of business!

[MIXONE]

Yeah...but most of the shops that hire such plebs are now out of business!

Agreed.Staff make or break a business not matter what the product.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Agreed.Staff make or break a business not matter what the product.

Aye. I wanted a new tv not long ago, and the shop that sold it to me had by far the best staff.

[kel]

Did it occur to you that the 'lady' didn't know you from a bar of soap?

In my experience...a lot of 'racers' expect everything for nothing, and think they are something they're not.

Where did that come from?
Im a bucket racer. I race for fun. I pay the going rate. I expect to be treated as any paying customer should be.
Tony who is usually on the counter is a good guy and has never charged me more than $30 for a tyre change. Think about it 20min work at $85 an hr + gst is $29.33 and I have the audacity and arrogance of a wannabe racer (bar of soap and all) to voice my disapproval at an attempt to charge $50?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Where did that come from?
Im a bucket racer. I race for fun. I pay the going rate. I expect to be treated as any paying customer should be.
Tony who is usually on the counter is a good guy and has never charged me more than $30 for a tyre change. Think about it 20min work at $85 an hr + gst is $29.33 and I have the audacity and arrogance of a wannabe racer (bar of soap and all) to voice my disapproval at an attempt to charge $50?

And so you come on here and slag them off without even trying to get to the bottom of it?? That strikes me as arrogant yes.

[kel]

And so you come on here and slag them off without even trying to get to the bottom of it?? That strikes me as arrogant yes.

I choose to voice my disapproval based on fact, that is my right. You offer judgement based on what, gut feel, thats arrogance. I’d like to think you are simply a Troll and if you are then I applaud you because you have succeeded, but if not then you are simply conceited.

[Kickaha]

So one bad experience since you've been dealing with them since the eighties and you throw your toys?

[Maha]

Where did that come from?
Im a bucket racer. I race for fun. I pay the going rate. I expect to be treated as any paying customer should be.
Tony who is usually on the counter is a good guy and has never charged me more than $30 for a tyre change. Think about it 20min work at $85 an hr + gst is $29.33 and I have the audacity and arrogance of a wannabe racer (bar of soap and all) to voice my disapproval at an attempt to charge $50?

But wasn't the ''lady'' just charging you what was on the job sheet?

[Crasherfromwayback]

As we all know racing costs money and we all appreciate the support we get from our local bike shop and of course they profit from our obsession.

Im sad to say my relationship with Haldanes ended today not only did I get over charged ($50 to change tyres without balancing, ultimately being charged $42) but I also copped a whole lot of attitude when I voiced my disapproval, who is that nasty woman?
Im officially taking my business for oils, seals, leavers, helmets, gloves etc somewhere else! Nice move lady, add that to your profit and loss sheet.

:2guns:


I choose to voice my disapproval based on fact, that is my right. You offer judgement based on what, gut feel, thats arrogance. I’d like to think you are simply a Troll and if you are then I applaud you because you have succeeded, but if not then you are simply conceited.

So after all those years of good service and support, one bad experience with ONE staff member makes you think coming on here and slagging them off is ok, without talking to the owner first? To see if he/she wouldn't rather make things right so you don't have to slag them off here?

You can voice your disapproval anytime, anywhere you like. But in my eyes, it makes you a tossbag for doing so before trying to get a better response from someone other than the one staff member that has done you wrong.

[Crasherfromwayback]

But wasn't the ''lady'' just charging you what was on the job sheet?

More than likely. But it's MUCH better to come on KB and have a hissy fit and slag the dealership off I reckon.

[kel]

1. there was no job sheet
2. Chris had set the price of $50
3. The woman in question made it quite clear that others I had been dealing with were just employees and that she sets the prices.
4. Obviously I should have supplied a verbatim account for the kiwibiker have a says.


But in my eyes, .

As I said, conceited, but you win Im just a cock but a cock with a perfectly affable dealer right around the corner from work.
For those who want to pay $50 for a tyre change see Chris at Haldanes, and if you want to bitch about it then watch out for his mate Crasherfromwayback. Nice hijack by the way.

[Str8 Jacket]

Since when do bucket racers pay for shops to do work on their bikes??????

[gatch]

1. there was no job sheet
2. Chris had set the price of $50
3. The woman in question made it quite clear that others I had been dealing with were just employees and that she sets the prices.
4. Obviously I should have supplied a verbatim account for the kiwibiker have a says.



As I said, conceited, but you win Im just a cock but a cock with a perfectly affable dealer right around the corner from work.
For those who want to pay $50 for a tyre change see Chris at Haldanes, and if you want to bitch about it then watch out for his mate Crasherfromwayback. Nice hijack by the way.

What does this crasher guy know about selling stuff to people anyway..

[DMNTD]

So one bad experience since you've been dealing with them since the eighties and you throw your toys?

Although the lady in question was obviously out of line, the OP's reaction to take in National :dodge: over one fuck up over many years of happy service, certain shows their lack of brain cells.
The financial damage a pathetic thread like this can cause isn't always minimal.

[Crasherfromwayback]

As I said, conceited, but you win Im just a cock but a cock with a perfectly affable dealer right around the corner from work.
For those who want to pay $50 for a tyre change see Chris at Haldanes, and if you want to bitch about it then watch out for his mate Crasherfromwayback. Nice hijack by the way.

I'm conceited, you're a cock. And why is commenting on your bitch thread considered a hijack? Think you need to get over yourself.

[jasonu]

Since when do bucket racers pay for shops to do work on their bikes??????


Gee Kelly, I think you might be on this ice with this one. Haldanes have been around forever and are pretty much 100% respected. I wasn't in the shop at the time of your problem so I can't comment on what happened but to take it straight to this forum is IMO a bit sharp and won't do you any good at all.

[Woodman]

Bloody hell, the shop has been looking after you since the eighties and giving you good discounts, and they get it wrong once and you go postal on here??:weep:

Why can't you wait till next week and go and talk to someone else about it instead of being a jumped up keyboard warrior.
Surely after all the help and not to mention the money they have saved you, you owe them that at least.
Personally if it was my shop I wouldn't move an inch to help you now.

[Madness]

I can't help but think that Saturday mornings must be a bitch of a time for bike workshops - everyone wanting their stuff NOW!! I'd probably price that job to a similar level on a Saturday am.

Cut them some slack dude.

[RobGassit]

Pretty sure the owner deserves a phone call before this goes any further. Our bike shops need all our support these days. Good staff are essential though. Hopefully it was a misunderstanding or she just found out her cat had died.

[Crasherfromwayback]

but watch out they changed my wheel bearings and charged for it without asking :ar15:


And if they didn't, you'd be here moaning that they didn't pick up your bike had fucked wheel brgs, and it could've killed you not replacing them. Hard to win sometimes. Yes they should've called you and asked you if you wanted them replaced.

[Buckets4Me]

And if they didn't, you'd be here moaning that they didn't pick up your bike had fucked wheel brgs, and it could've killed you not replacing them. Hard to win sometimes. Yes they should've called you and asked you if you wanted them replaced.

WELL YE YOU HAVE A POINT!!

now that will be $40 thank you (you can pay it strait into my bank account)

the other problem is i had new bearing to go in sitting on the bench at home (they are still there )

[Crasherfromwayback]

now that will be $40 thank you (you can pay it strait into my bank account)

Haven't got $40.00. I'm a broken arsed bike salesman!

[Buckets4Me]

Haven't got $40.00. I'm a broken arsed bike salesman!

well I'll keep your bike till you do then thanks

ps deleted the post as i dont want to slag them off

[Crasherfromwayback]

well I'll keep your bike till you do then thanks

ps deleted the post as i dont want to slag them off

You couldn't (and probably wouldn't want to anyway) handle my bike(s)!

Ps: Good man. Too much of that shit going on for no real good reason.

[Crasherfromwayback]

the other problem is i had new bearing to go in sitting on the bench at home (they are still there )

If you had your sales docket, any decent shop would've taken them back for a full refund upon hearing your story!

[Mom]

Gee Kelly, I think you might be on this ice with this one.

Very sad reading...

In fact, it is the kind of reading that makes me WANT to go to Haldanes to see what the fuss is all about.

It is rare, ney impossible in my experience, to be so badly ripped by a company, you need to bag them on something so wonderful/dangersous as the www.

We are talking about a tyre fitting gone wrong? After how many years of good experiences? This smells of something personal.

To the OP. Prove me wrong, or did you just sound off, in such a potentially destructive way, because you are a tad pissed off your personal life is not as wonderful as it could be?

Sad reading...

[Mom]

If you had your sales docket, any decent shop would've taken them back for a full refund upon hearing your story!

I have had recent experience of something "failing" when it shouldn't have. Went back, got the part replaced, got a free coffee while I waited (it was better than yours Pete :love:). Lets hope the same thing does not happen again. If is does I have no doubt it will be sorted.

I never considered posting a bagging thread on KB just 'cos I was not impressed about something.

[Mom]

I also copped a whole lot of attitude when I voiced my disapproval, who is that nasty woman?
:2guns:


Gee Kelly, I think you might be on this ice with this one.


To the OP. Prove me wrong, or did you just sound off, in such a potentially destructive way, because you are a tad pissed off your personal life is not as wonderful as it could be?

Sad reading...

Is the nasty woman your ex wife? Just putting it out there you understand :D Seriously dude, you have done yourself no favours here.

[jaffaonajappa]

I never considered posting a bagging thread on KB just 'cos I was not impressed about something.


Its the new age Internet Forums 'thing'. Venting after a bad day, in a foul mood, whatever. But at this level, is completely irresponsible - and potentially damaging to our favourite 'past time' - bikes.

Having said that.....I bag on KB quite often, for no good reason.....Damn Hondas. Im farken unimpressed by them. :lol:

[Mom]

Its the new age Internet Forums 'thing'. Venting after a bad day, in a foul mood, whatever. But at this level, is completely irresponsible - and potentially damaging to our favourite 'past time' - bikes.

Having said that.....I bag on KB quite often, for no good reason.....Damn Hondas. Im farken unimpressed by them. :lol:

Fuck off dude, Hondas are GHEY not dumb :mad: Have you not seen this proof?

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/138460-They-shit-rainbows

[RobGassit]

I'm starting to feel a bit sorry for Kel now. He over reacted and has withdrawn the post.
We all make mistakes.

[Mom]

I'm starting to feel a bit sorry for Kel now. He over reacted and has withdrawn the post.
We all make mistakes.

I have not even gone back to check.

Good, he has withdrawn his post, and dont feel sorry for him, He made a poor choice. His peers have corrected him, he has responded by withdrawing? He may consider himself slapped :yes:

No harm, no danger, lesson learned.

[Mom]

I'm starting to feel a bit sorry for Kel now. He over reacted and has withdrawn the post.
We all make mistakes.

So what is your opinion of Hondas? Be aware, read my earlier post :killingme

[RobGassit]

So what is your opinion of Hondas? Be aware, read my earlier post :killingme
Honda's are excellent at Postal delivery.

[Yow Ling]

who are all these people in the bucket forum?

[Kickaha]

who are all these people in the bucket forum?

Wannabee Bucket racers of course

[Buddha#81]

who are all these people in the bucket forum?

Buzzards hanging around a wounded animal?

[jaffaonajappa]

Buzzards hanging around a wounded animal?


hey, just seen your "Its harder to lose weight than gain horsepower."
Is this true for buckets? Id have thought the opposite was correct....?

[Buddha#81]

hey, just seen your "Its harder to lose weight than gain horsepower."
Is this true for buckets? Id have thought the opposite was correct....?

Off topic, but which side of 40 are you........?

[Kickaha]

Off topic, but which side of 40 are you........?

Probably not the same side as you :bleh: or me

[Buckets4Me]

If you had your sales docket, any decent shop would've taken them back for a full refund upon hearing your story!


they didn't ask for the docket as my wife picked the wheel up :lol:

"HE SPENT HOW MUCH ON A NEW TYRE!!!!" :girlfight:
"whats this about wheel bearing?":mad:
"never said he wanted them":mad:

(I think she thought that was the end of a new pair of shoes for her)

:bs: "I said he could only spend x amount"

first I heard about it was from the wife fumming at me. then from the boss phoning to apologize
(http://nz.search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0oGkmMGFvNN0noA0y7zZgx.?ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-501&p=apologize&SpellState=&fr2=sp-qrw-corr-top)

apologize (http://nz.search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0oGkmMGFvNN0noA0y7zZgx.?ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-501&p=apologize&SpellState=&fr2=sp-qrw-corr-top)

:killingme

[Arronduke]

Kel what have you done.... you might get hate mail for this...:mad::mad::mad:

I nearly fell of my chair with laughter when I read your post...

How dare you insult Haldane's...

But seriously I WOULD never buy a bike from there... it might not be the shop the ruined it for me but the cock salesman with thin face and bond hair. Don't know is name but I have tried to buy two bikes off that man.... ok I'll try and be PC...

The first time was quite some time ago...Anyway I was about 22-24 yrs old.. Had a GSXR750 and sold it. I decided to buy a Duke.. 750SS about 15k and $15,000 and he did not take me seriously.. I left and went to Holeshot and purchased one there. Took it back to Haldnes and ask the same salesman where do I take it to get it serviced....yep and it felt good.

.:brick::brick::brick::brick::brick::brick:

A couple of years later when I wrote the 750 off I went back to Haldanes and my eye caught a 1992 900Superlight.. with carbon fibreand Stainless steel exhaust, single seat, mavic rims, and used to set car alarms off decelerating in to car parks ... It was covered in clear plastic to protect the paint etc.. from memory 9000km on the clock.. can't remember the price in the shop and it was on behalf, but I tried to buy the bike from the same salesman... I have cash (insurance money) and he was arrogant and again did not take me seriously. I found out who owned it and purchased it off him directly for $18,500..and that was a heap of cash then. I was still limping after getting out of hospital after the 750 right off and the dude delivered it my house. I had not ridden it yet.
:Punk::Punk::Punk::Punk:

Now guess where I took it to get serviced...... and guess who I asked where do I take my bike to get serviced.... yep the same salesman.

I dont to like to talk mean about people... (except Henk) haaa but seriously this is a true story.

[Arronduke]

Forgot to add.... I go to Dury Tires ... they are so good.

The man dude running the place is Mike and he used to work a Cycle Treads... and he was the dude there. If you wanted to know about tired he was the one to talk to. He just disapeard from there one time I was there.

Mike turned up at Dury tires... he is great I get all my tires from there and he alway gives me a deal... the last set I stopped in at Cycle Treads to compare prices and it was heaps ceaper... to the point it made cycle treads look bad.

They will change tyres for me for my bucket, dirt bike road bikes etc always for small fee and mostly nothing for mt bucket... $10 a wheel for the rest if I only need labour to chnge tyres I have brougt along.

10/10 for Dury Tures.

[Brian d marge]

Did it occur to you that the 'lady' didn't know you from a bar of soap?

In my experience...a lot of 'racers' expect everything for nothing, and think they are something they're not.

Sod off , Im a friggen leg,end, confirm when I check the mirror ........

Stephen

[Mom]

Sod off , Im a friggen leg,end, confirm when I check the mirror ........

Stephen

I am sorry, I have not seen your leg end... mirrors are over rated :D

[Arronduke]

We bucket racers are a quite polite bunch who like to keep to ourselfs... with all you strangers in our bucket world it is making us uneasy.... our simple life is being upset by these out of towners... talking up large.

Thanks for taking the time to drop in... hope to see you at the track one day...

Do drop in again and say hello... Bye..Bye Bye.... :banana:.

[RobGassit]

We bucket racers are a quite polite bunch who like to keep to ourselfs... with all you strangers in our bucket world it is making us uneasy.... our simple life is being upset by these out of towners... talking up large.

Thanks for taking the time to drop in... hope to see you at the track one day...

Do drop in again and say hello... Bye..Bye Bye.... :banana:.
We are friends of Kel. He put his foot in his mouth and in the absence of his buddies,,we were helping him extract it.

[Arronduke]

haaa what pals.... where do I get a couple... haaa ... with friends like this who needs a wife...

I think the man is aloud to vent... he was upset...

hope the weather hold tomorrow...

[Mom]

Do drop in again and say hello... Bye..Bye Bye.... :banana:.

Thanks for the welcome, and the farewell...

Just so you are all aware, your posts are not in some secret place. I dont frequent the bucket forum, but you might like to consider that your posts do actually appear in the general KB forum too.

All I saw was a thread bagging a dealer for some tyre issue revolving around $50, though reading a bit futher I saw it may have been less than that.

You can be sure that someone will take you to task, for starting a thread like this, no matter the forum you start it in :yes:



We are friends of Kel. He put his foot in his mouth and in the absence of his buddies,,we were helping him extract it.

I am not a friend of Kels? Though I am happy to point out the error of his ways :love:...

[RobGassit]

I am not a friend of Kels? Though I am happy to point out the error of his ways :love:

I don't know him either, but as we all gathered to give him a group kicking I started to feel sorry for him, all curled up in a ball like that. If only his bouquet mates had been there for him. Then they turn up after the ambulance and tell us to phark off. What a bloody cheek!:tugger:

[Hitcher]

Call me old fashioned, but I expect to pay a reasonable price to suppliers, including bike shops, for services rendered. In return I expect competent service delivered by suitably qualified people. I expect transparency, honesty, completion of what I requested, accurate communication and a smile.

If a supplier chooses to offer me a discount, for repeat business, prompt payment or in return for my wit and charm, then that's a bonus for which I'm grateful. I don't expect that to become the norm.

[Dutchee]

It seems unusual to me that people are actually defending a bike shop that has done something to upset someone. Usually everyone then jumps on the bandwagon and throws in a few more punches.

Colemans, Red Baron, et al could obviously learn from Haldanes (sorry, can't remember all the shops that usually get bagged, but those two spring to mind, there are others around the country I've send threads about).

Yes, Kelly was obviously upset and probably should've kept his mouth shut, but needed to vent. I've had crappy dealings with most bike shops in Auckland, but have also had good dealings with a lot of them. There are just some I won't go back to, but that's my business. Oh, some aren't in business any more, some still are.

As to buckets tomorrow, if today was anything to go by, cut slicks will probably be the go. There were the usual standing puddles of water, and when the track was pretty dry, bit intimidating on slicks. The usual suspect went down, but he's got new leathers, so was hoping to be incognito. Couple of other minor falls, a lot of laughs, a bit of rain, and I think a good time had by all that bothered to turn up (not many, which meant we had an early exit lol).

Oops, forgot to add - Arron, if fellow motorcyclists can find reason to slag off buckets, sidecars or motards, they will be in like flin. We're not motorcyclists, we're an annoyance and we really shouldn't have so much fun. It's disgraceful. Don't forget, either, that no F1, F2 or F3 race is ever stopped due to accidents or oil spills (unless buckets or sidecars have been out first). Motards are just boring and why the hell should they be allowed on tracks anywhere, as no one enjoys watching them (we should set up polls as to who's more fun to watch - my vote's for sidecars, motards, 125's and buckets, with F1 often the dullest to watch, but that's just my opinion - get Rosssi out there and I'll change my mind).

[Hitcher]

It seems unusual to me that people are actually defending a bike shop that has done something to upset someone.

Just because somebody is "upset" doesn't mean that they're right or that the blame for their upsetness is somebody else's fault. What we've heard is a onesided account of something that is alleged to have happened at a motorcycle shop. We haven't heard from either the motorcycle shop nor any independent witnesses.

Kiwi Biker members are pretty good at mouthing off about the perceived wrongdoings of other parties, usually in the smug knowledge that those whose reputations they are impugning are unlikely to read what has been written. In most cases they would be unlikely to make those comments within earshot of those alleged to have caused the wrongdoing. Draw your own conclusions.

[Madness]

Oops, forgot to add - Arron, if fellow motorcyclists can find reason to slag off buckets, sidecars or motards, they will be in like flin. We're not motorcyclists, we're an annoyance and we really shouldn't have so much fun. It's disgraceful.

That huge chip on your shoulder must be distracting at times.

[jaffaonajappa]

the blame for their upsetness is somebody else's fault.

Mister Hitcher.
Please explain....upsetness?

[F5 Dave]

Fair enough I think slaging off bike shops is usually one sided.

But if someone tried to charge me $50 to change a freaking tyre I'd go postal. I mean Fuck off that's like $150 an hour, more like $200 p/hr. I've seen a lot of tyres changed. Not even Plumbers charge that. They don't pay the chaps doing that anywhere near that amount so fuk that.

[Hitcher]

Mister Hitcher.
Please explain....upsetness?

The degree or extent of upset. Patent pending.

[koba]

Fair enough I think slaging off bike shops is usually one sided.

But if someone tried to charge me $50 to change a freaking tyre I'd go postal. I mean Fuck off that's like $150 an hour, more like $200 p/hr. I've seen a lot of tyres changed. Not even Plumbers charge that. They don't pay the chaps doing that anywhere near that amount so fuk that.

I'm glad I never got into being a man hoer.
If people extrapolated a standard fee into an hourly rate it would be terrible for business.

[F5 Dave]

After so much time as an apprentice. _what made you walk away from the career?

[jaffaonajappa]

Off topic, but which side of 40 are you........?

Ahhhh, gotcha. Gee, I was asking in a bucket forum, albeit an odd kinda thread in the forum, about weight vs HP.
And all I got was this.
My wieght hasnt changed for the last 20 years. Basic physical activity combines with excessive caffein, moderate doses of Rum, and not Toooo many pies. But HP? My Horse power may have dropped a bit, top speeds slowed down. But my Thrusting power increased, rapid acceleration is the norm.,

Bought a wee bucket, dropped it in the rain today, slippery damn track. Need some better rubber - wider stuff would help. And some brakes. So contemplating doing some jobs on it....and wondering while I am at it, just how far to go. While I want to focus on its handling, more grunt is always cool yes? Just wondering about value for money - decrease the bikes weight while increasing its handling - or.....I thought your signature block was bucket related.....focus some time on increasing HP.

To answer your Question. Im no where Near 40. Stuck at 19 still. Gona be stuck here for a while yet too :)

[Dutchee]

That huge chip on your shoulder must be distracting at times.
Sorry dude, the chip on my shoulder ain't nothing to do with bikes. I accept I'm an old female who started riding in her 30's and will never be fast. I ride because I absolutely love it, and when I'm not having fun, I stop riding and just spectate. The chip on my shoulder goes way back before I even knew what a bike was.

What I do seriously get fucked off about is motorcyclists, of any description, slagging off other motorcyclists because they do not ride the same sort of motorcycles as them. Oh, excluding cruisers, but that's because I don't understand them yet.

Have a look in the racing forum and see how often buckets, sidecars and motards get slagged off. They've commented that none of those three classes should be allowed at race tracks they're at, because sidecars spill oil, buckets crash and motards are just boring to watch. I've been to race events off and on since the 80's (teens), and I've enjoyed watching the sidecars. I've enjoyed watching motards. I used to hate seeing Robert Holden, Roger Freeth and other crowd favourites crashing, but they did. I hated waiting for another ambulance to take the patient to the hospital so the race meet could continue.

My bucket "racing" is a f'ing joke, and I don't consider my riding racing, I consider me a mobile chicane, but so long as I'm having fun, I'll continue to do so. I enjoy watching close racing, and will cheer on whomever I like.

If that constitutes a chip on my shoulder, get a f'ing life. I will pull out of a race because a) I'm hungry b) I'm trying to watch the racing in front c) I need a pee d) I'm bored and not paying enough attention to what I'm doing, so therefore a danger to myself and anyone coming up behind me

Yeah, I enjoy watching super bikes, I enjoy moto gp, but the racing in superbikes is better than gp, I just am a Rossi fan (oh, these days more an anti Stoner and Lorenzo person, but there's life in Rossi so don't rule him out just yet, he still has more character than anyone else in the GP paddock, wherever he finishes).

I seriously am sick of the nz "premier class" riders putting down other classes just because they're out there having fun. Never mind they help to pay for the "premier" class track time. And yeah, I'm passionate about it. No one person is better than the next person, they may have had more luck, been born into a better financial family, blah blah blah, but we've all had choices to make over time, and background can sometimes help with that.

Anyway, the chip on my shoulder is fine thank you. I'm not a race head, will never be one, but enjoy riding whatever bike I'm chosing to ride for the moment. I do road, bucket, these days very limited trials and trail riding and used to love riding my adventure bike. I commute to work on my bike, tour the countryside, spectate where I don't have enough balls to participate (but totally admit to that).

Sorry I don't bow down to racers who think they're god (read previous posts, Rossi is god, get over yourselves, Agostini was god before him, and we don't know who's next but if it's Stoner, he's an Aussie and I'm now atheist).
An old hag, with no real competitive edge, having a lot of fun on the bucket and road bikes.

[koba]

After so much time as an apprentice. _what made you walk away from the career?

Shhh, you will get people talking!


Have we dragged this thread off topic enough yet?

Wait, NO! It's in the bucket forum, off topic is THE topic.

Or maybe the topic is Man Hoering. Or maybe Haldanes. Or maybe Mainstream KB interlopers.

I dunno, I've been drinking, could you tell?

[koba]

I seriously am sick of the nz "premier class" riders putting down other classes just because they're out there having fun. Never mind they help to pay for the "premier" class track time. And yeah, I'm passionate about it. No one person is better than the next person, they may have had more luck, been born into a better financial family, blah blah blah, but we've all had choices to make over time, and background can sometimes help with that.


Don't mind slowpoke, he's been banging that can for years.
Most of the "Premier Class" folk just don't understand, no worries though 'coz they are the ones missing out on all the shits and giggles we have!

[Dutchee]

Shhh, you will get people talking!


Have we dragged this thread off topic enough yet?

Wait, NO! It's in the bucket forum, off topic is THE topic.

Or maybe the topic is Man Hoering. Or maybe Haldanes. Or maybe Mainstream KB interlopers.

I dunno, I've been drinking, could you tell?
Awww, your name came up in discussion today. I had to laugh but we'll tell you about it next weekend. We'll have to find new rumours after that one.

You drinking, nah, can't believe that for a second. But someone's about finished my blardy rum.
Let the rumours begin (continue).

[koba]

Awww, your name came up in discussion today. I had to laugh but we'll tell you about it next weekend. We'll have to find new rumours after that one.

You drinking, nah, can't believe that for a second. But someone's about finished my blardy rum.
Let the rumours begin (continue).

I look forward to hearing distorted rumors about something dastardly I have done!

[jasonu]

They will change tyres for me for my bucket, dirt bike road bikes etc always for small fee and mostly nothing for mt bucket...


The most serious thing I have noticed in this thread is all of this talk about getting shops to change bucket tires!
Get some tire spoons, they don't cost much and have a go yourself. It is not that hard to do. Even dirt bike tires with beadlocks are not that hard. A bit of technique and some elbow grease is all it takes.

[White trash]

usually in the smug knowledge that those whose reputations they are impugning are unlikely to read what has been written.

Got to disagree here mate. I don't know of a single bike shop who doesn't at least monitor KB and what's being said about them. Simply chucking the bikeshop name in the search box brings up the latest threads that shop's been mentioned in. Whether they choose to respond or not is another matter.

[Kickaha]

Bought a wee bucket, dropped it in the rain today, slippery damn track. Need some better rubber - wider stuff would help.

Don't get sucked into that line of thought, plenty of buckets going fast on narrow rubber


They don't pay the chaps doing that anywhere near that amount so fuk that.

That's because if you pay the chaps doing it the same as what you're making you don't make much money :bleh:

They also said tyres so I'm picking it was more than one

$30+ a tyre is the norm for car stuff to fit and balance at the Major national retail chains, so I wouldn't expect bikes to be much different especially as they're quite often more difficult to do

[Maha]

they will be in like flin.

Its Flynn...as in Errol Flynn the actor, he had a massive cock, hence they saying.
''In like Flynn''.

[Buckets4Me]

That huge chip on your shoulder must be distracting at times.

just because we can fill the grid and have leftovers :2thumbsup

[Woodman]

Fair enough I think slaging off bike shops is usually one sided.

But if someone tried to charge me $50 to change a freaking tyre I'd go postal. I mean Fuck off that's like $150 an hour, more like $200 p/hr. I've seen a lot of tyres changed. Not even Plumbers charge that. They don't pay the chaps doing that anywhere near that amount so fuk that.

Why spit the dummy??? Can you just not ask them in a nice friendly reasonable manner? Is going postal something you do on a regular basis when you have an objection? Do you really think getting their back up will help the situation?
I have regular customers that I look after very well, and the main reason is because they are reasonable people who are great to deal with. I also have grumpy pricks that moan and groan and treat my staff like shit no matter how you treat them. The opposition can have them.

[Maha]

Fair enough I think slaging off bike shops is usually one sided.

But if someone tried to charge me $50 to change a freaking tyre I'd go postal. I mean Fuck off that's like $150 an hour, more like $200 p/hr. I've seen a lot of tyres changed. Not even Plumbers charge that. They don't pay the chaps doing that anywhere near that amount so fuk that.

I have a minimum charge of $130 p/hr...it is a set rate that could take anywhere between 20-60 minutes. If I happen to feel generous on the day I may reduce the charge (giving the circumstances) to say...$60-70?

Some people operate under the old mates rates system and thats fine.
I have driven to south auckland before today and did a job for banana cake....:2thumbsup

[Pixie]

Did it occur to you that the 'lady' didn't know you from a bar of soap?

In my experience...a lot of 'racers' expect everything for nothing, and think they are something they're not.
Well that "bar of soap" is no longer a customer.
Who's the loser?

[Pixie]

Sorry dude, the chip on my shoulder ain't nothing to do with bikes. I accept I'm an old female who started riding in her 30's and will never be fast. I ride because I absolutely love it, and when I'm not having fun, I stop riding and just spectate. The chip on my shoulder goes way back before I even knew what a bike was.

What I do seriously get fucked off about is motorcyclists, of any description, slagging off other motorcyclists because they do not ride the same sort of motorcycles as them. Oh, excluding cruisers, but that's because I don't understand them yet.

Have a look in the racing forum and see how often buckets, sidecars and motards get slagged off. They've commented that none of those three classes should be allowed at race tracks they're at, because sidecars spill oil, buckets crash and motards are just boring to watch. I've been to race events off and on since the 80's (teens), and I've enjoyed watching the sidecars. I've enjoyed watching motards. I used to hate seeing Robert Holden, Roger Freeth and other crowd favourites crashing, but they did. I hated waiting for another ambulance to take the patient to the hospital so the race meet could continue.

My bucket "racing" is a f'ing joke, and I don't consider my riding racing, I consider me a mobile chicane, but so long as I'm having fun, I'll continue to do so. I enjoy watching close racing, and will cheer on whomever I like.

If that constitutes a chip on my shoulder, get a f'ing life. I will pull out of a race because a) I'm hungry b) I'm trying to watch the racing in front c) I need a pee d) I'm bored and not paying enough attention to what I'm doing, so therefore a danger to myself and anyone coming up behind me

Yeah, I enjoy watching super bikes, I enjoy moto gp, but the racing in superbikes is better than gp, I just am a Rossi fan (oh, these days more an anti Stoner and Lorenzo person, but there's life in Rossi so don't rule him out just yet, he still has more character than anyone else in the GP paddock, wherever he finishes).

I seriously am sick of the nz "premier class" riders putting down other classes just because they're out there having fun. Never mind they help to pay for the "premier" class track time. And yeah, I'm passionate about it. No one person is better than the next person, they may have had more luck, been born into a better financial family, blah blah blah, but we've all had choices to make over time, and background can sometimes help with that.

Anyway, the chip on my shoulder is fine thank you. I'm not a race head, will never be one, but enjoy riding whatever bike I'm chosing to ride for the moment. I do road, bucket, these days very limited trials and trail riding and used to love riding my adventure bike. I commute to work on my bike, tour the countryside, spectate where I don't have enough balls to participate (but totally admit to that).

Sorry I don't bow down to racers who think they're god (read previous posts, Rossi is god, get over yourselves, Agostini was god before him, and we don't know who's next but if it's Stoner, he's an Aussie and I'm now atheist).
An old hag, with no real competitive edge, having a lot of fun on the bucket and road bikes.
Excellent post :2thumbsup:2thumbsup

you tell'em maw

[Crasherfromwayback]

Well that "bar of soap" is no longer a customer.
Who's the loser?

I think they'll survive.

[koba]

Is going postal something you do on a regular basis when you have an objection?

Totally unrelated to the completely boring and irrelevant topic of this thread; When you say "postal" do you mean it as a witty play on the fact that the rant or whatever is delivered by means of a 'post' on an internet forum?

Or do you refer directly to the common US parlance of 'Going Postal' which stems from workplace shootings in the US Postal Service?

[koba]

Fair enough I think slaging off bike shops is usually one sided.

But if someone tried to charge me $50 to change a freaking tyre I'd go postal. I mean Fuck off that's like $150 an hour, more like $200 p/hr. I've seen a lot of tyres changed. Not even Plumbers charge that. They don't pay the chaps doing that anywhere near that amount so fuk that.

Ah, I now see it was Dave who first used "postal".
Question above now directed at you.

I thought it kind of humorous and far more entertaining than the intended direction of this thread.

EDIT: No It wasn't Dave, it WAS the Woodman.

[gatch]

Just to take this thread further from the OG topic, I'm having pizza and beers for lunch.

Sort of on topic, I took my vfr to AFC motorsickles to get them to change the tires (which I supplied). From memory it cost $90 odd buck. Wheels off, tires off, cleaned, new valve stems, shafts l00bed, tires on, wheels on. Not too bad I thought.

[Ender EnZed]

Today I learned:

Its Flynn...as in Errol Flynn the actor, he had a massive cock, hence they saying.
''In like Flynn''.

[RobGassit]

Sorry dude, the chip on my shoulder ain't nothing to do with bikes. I accept I'm an old female who started riding in her 30's and will never be fast. I ride because I absolutely love it, and when I'm not having fun, I stop riding and just spectate. The chip on my shoulder goes way back before I even knew what a bike was.

What I do seriously get fucked off about is motorcyclists, of any description, slagging off other motorcyclists because they do not ride the same sort of motorcycles as them. Oh, excluding cruisers, but that's because I don't understand them yet.

Have a look in the racing forum and see how often buckets, sidecars and motards get slagged off. They've commented that none of those three classes should be allowed at race tracks they're at, because sidecars spill oil, buckets crash and motards are just boring to watch. I've been to race events off and on since the 80's (teens), and I've enjoyed watching the sidecars. I've enjoyed watching motards. I used to hate seeing Robert Holden, Roger Freeth and other crowd favourites crashing, but they did. I hated waiting for another ambulance to take the patient to the hospital so the race meet could continue.

My bucket "racing" is a f'ing joke, and I don't consider my riding racing, I consider me a mobile chicane, but so long as I'm having fun, I'll continue to do so. I enjoy watching close racing, and will cheer on whomever I like.

If that constitutes a chip on my shoulder, get a f'ing life. I will pull out of a race because a) I'm hungry b) I'm trying to watch the racing in front c) I need a pee d) I'm bored and not paying enough attention to what I'm doing, so therefore a danger to myself and anyone coming up behind me

Yeah, I enjoy watching super bikes, I enjoy moto gp, but the racing in superbikes is better than gp, I just am a Rossi fan (oh, these days more an anti Stoner and Lorenzo person, but there's life in Rossi so don't rule him out just yet, he still has more character than anyone else in the GP paddock, wherever he finishes).

I seriously am sick of the nz "premier class" riders putting down other classes just because they're out there having fun. Never mind they help to pay for the "premier" class track time. And yeah, I'm passionate about it. No one person is better than the next person, they may have had more luck, been born into a better financial family, blah blah blah, but we've all had choices to make over time, and background can sometimes help with that.

Anyway, the chip on my shoulder is fine thank you. I'm not a race head, will never be one, but enjoy riding whatever bike I'm chosing to ride for the moment. I do road, bucket, these days very limited trials and trail riding and used to love riding my adventure bike. I commute to work on my bike, tour the countryside, spectate where I don't have enough balls to participate (but totally admit to that).

Sorry I don't bow down to racers who think they're god (read previous posts, Rossi is god, get over yourselves, Agostini was god before him, and we don't know who's next but if it's Stoner, he's an Aussie and I'm now atheist).
An old hag, with no real competitive edge, having a lot of fun on the bucket and road bikes.

Damn what a great post! Love your attitude and gritty self awareness. Now back to the kitchen with you, 2 sugars please..Just kiddin. Keep rockin it girl..

[kel]

Wow 6 pages of posts in less than 2 days, and some of the slaging, classic!

Truth is now that Ive backed things up I have to admit I WAS OUT OF LINE. Making the assumption that a service provider will charge the same amount each time is foolish. In the future Ill carry out the simple task of asking (each time) how much something will be in advance (and Ill save my grumblings for the wife).

hmm other forums have a red card emotive icon, cant find one here.

[Woodman]

Totally unrelated to the completely boring and irrelevant topic of this thread; When you say "postal" do you mean it as a witty play on the fact that the rant or whatever is delivered by means of a 'post' on an internet forum?

Or do you refer directly to the common US parlance of 'Going Postal' which stems from workplace shootings in the US Postal Service?

No I never meant going postal to mean posting on here, but I like it. Cool play on words:banana:

You are right this thread is no more fun.:ar15:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Truth is now that Ive backed things up I have to admit I WAS OUT OF LINE. Making the assumption that a service provider will charge the same amount each time is foolish. In the future Ill carry out the simple task of asking (each time) how much something will be in advance (and Ill save my grumblings for the wife).

hmm other forums have a red card emotive icon, cant find one here.

Respect right there! I reckon you should get hold of the manager, tell them what went down and why you're unhappy...see what they have to say about it all. You never know...you could have that nice relationship back.

[RobGassit]

Wow 6 pages of posts in less than 2 days, and some of the slaging, classic!

Truth is now that Ive backed things up I have to admit I WAS OUT OF LINE. Making the assumption that a service provider will charge the same amount each time is foolish. In the future Ill carry out the simple task of asking (each time) how much something will be in advance (and Ill save my grumblings for the wife).

hmm other forums have a red card emotive icon, cant find one here.

Big respect buddy. Nicely played. Carry on people. Nothing to see here. Move along people. At last, all we non-bouquet peoples can phaark off out of these fellas thread eh!

[grantnz]

Dutchee; quote........I seriously am sick of the nz "premier class" riders putting down other classes just because they're out there having fun. Never mind they help to pay for the "premier" class track time.




Trouble is, they have not yet reached that point in their lives where they know that the 'Premier Class' is Buckets. That comes with age, and with age comes comes wisdom....:lol:

[Buckets4Me]

Rossi is god, get over yourselves, Agostini was god before him, and we don't know who's next but if it's Stoner, he's an Aussie and I'm now atheist).

:2thumbsup :lol::girlfight:

[Buckets4Me]

'Premier Class' is Buckets.


ten char
:nya:

[F5 Dave]

Why spit the dummy??? Can you just not ask them in a nice friendly reasonable manner? Is going postal something you do on a regular basis when you have an objection? Do you really think getting their back up will help the situation?
I have regular customers that I look after very well, and the main reason is because they are reasonable people who are great to deal with. I also have grumpy pricks that moan and groan and treat my staff like shit no matter how you treat them. The opposition can have them.
Well perhaps written with some medicinal alcohol flowing, but I still think 50 notes is a rip off. I am surprisingly reasonable & if you've seen my other posts on the usual bitchfest that KB can become when people feel they have been ripped off by 'the man' - I usually wonder what the full story is rather than join the feeding frenzy.

But $50 to change a tyre, just one. If that's the extent of the story then I think it speaks volumes on its own.

I am loyal to the good shops, but there are ones that haven't stood by me when I've had a problem with a product & chosen the distributor over the customer to side with. Well I haven't spent a $ in one particular shop in 20 years after 2 instances & I realised my loyalty was misplaced.

[ElCoyote]

So after all those years of good service and support, one bad experience with ONE staff member makes you think coming on here and slagging them off is ok, without talking to the owner first? To see if he/she wouldn't rather make things right so you don't have to slag them off here?

You can voice your disapproval anytime, anywhere you like. But in my eyes, it makes you a tossbag for doing so before trying to get a better response from someone other than the one staff member that has done you wrong.

Wouldn't happen at WMC because you have Dr. Death in the far office

[Crasherfromwayback]

Wouldn't happen at WMC because you have Dr. Death in the far office

He looks more like Colonel Saunders now days..

[grantnz]

Quote: But $50 to change a tyre, just one. If that's the extent of the story then I think it speaks volumes on its own.

The shop I usually use want $35 a wheel if you take in the wheels ( fitting and balancing) and $50 a wheel if you take in the bike.
So have found a friendly Beaurepaires who charge $10 a wheel for my bucket wheels if you take just the wheels ( not balanced tho which is fine for buckets).
Getting wheels for 2 buckets has involved the following;
...buy the rims complete with shit tyres, get BR to remove shit tyres, strip and repaint the rims, BR fit new slicks and valve stems to rims. 10 bucks and I'm happy, no paint missing, can do it over a period of a week or two. So 8 wheels = $80 to fit slicks and wets for 2 bikes.
Would not even consider using spoons to change tyres on my bucket, the penalty for bent spoons in our house is.... well its best not to go there.

Take the Ducati to the shop because I am a lazy f..ker.

[White trash]

He looks more like Colonel Saunders now days..

Guess what? Couple of years ago, I found a promotional photo of Dr Death. I ALMOST stole it off the wall of the pub it's in. It was that good. Angry looking man.

It's in a pub in Drury if anyone's interested.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Guess what? Couple of years ago, I found a promotional photo of Dr Death. I ALMOST stole it off the wall of the pub it's in. It was that good. Angry looking man.

It's in a pub in Drury if anyone's interested.

Get someone to take a snap of it

[White trash]

Get someone to take a snap of it

Roger that. I know just the man.

[Pumba]

Hmm, I am a bit late to the party and I cant be arsed reading the whole thread, but can I ask you one question Kel, why did you not just get Henk to do it like everyone else does?

[Buckets4Me]

why did you not just get Henk to do it like everyone else does?


or JC :killingme:lol:

[BoristheBiter]

I have used Hadanes now for a few years and have found them to be quite reliable.
Like all company's sometimes they get it a bit wrong... but it doesn't seem so in this case.

To me it looks like the OP has got a slap from his misses and is just passing it on.

I for one will continue to use them.

[F5 Dave]

So do they charge you $50 to change a tyre?

[BoristheBiter]

don't know, they don't do my tires.

[F5 Dave]

They wouldn't do my tyres for $50 ea either. Even if I lived in Auckland.

And if I did live in Auckland, they'd have to pay me enough that I could just abandon a bike if the tyres wore out.:lol:

[BoristheBiter]

But that's it there isn't it?

You want some work done, you get a price and if you don't like it you go somewhere else.

[F5 Dave]

Maybe its just time to let this thread die.

[jasonu]

Maybe its just time to let this thread die.

or time to stop fucking about on KB and get back to the work you are being paid to do.

[BoristheBiter]

or time to stop fucking about on KB and get back to the work you are being paid to do.

I pay myself so...............

[gav]

Always a good idea to ask first how much its gonna cost too ... :(
I got a car workshop to replace a slick and fit two new wheel bearings to my FXR rear wheel, cost? nothing :hug:

[Shaun]

Fark I hate Motodynamix, they have a short big eared red headed wanker runnin the show, I asked for a discount once after 3 years of service, and the red headed wanker told me to piss off, he said its money we want, NOT FRIENDS

[gav]

Fark I hate Motodynamix, they have a short big eared red headed wanker runnin the show, I asked for a discount once after 3 years of service, and the red headed wanker told me to piss off, he said its money we want, NOT FRIENDS

:killingme :lol: