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sil3nt
17th June 2011, 20:25
So when are they coming in? A few people around here are now saying August but i can't find any info anywhere. Anybody got a source for this info? I've been hearing all sorts of dates for the last year or so yet its all been bullshit :tugger:
varminter
17th June 2011, 20:33
Is this a new law to prevent people from leaning to far? Don't tell me the buggers are going to make us all ride upright. How we gona go round corners?
sil3nt
17th June 2011, 20:38
Is this a new law to prevent people from leaning to far? Don't tell me the buggers are going to make us all ride upright. How we gona go round corners?
:lol:

Yeah go on point and laugh

:nya:

:stupid:

Title changed!
Oblivion
17th June 2011, 21:19
I always thought that it would be at the end of the year. So it would be just enough time for me to get my full and not have to worry about all this stuff.
Grant`
17th June 2011, 21:23
Only thing i have seen so far is that the learner age is going to 16 from 15 as of August, nothing about changes to anything else. :banana:
Alex Wong
18th June 2011, 14:40
Searched high and low, called NZTA, and everything else. Does anyone know when the laws regarding Power to Weight Ratio's are coming in? Legitimately? I hear the goverment decided on it sometime last year, but have spent the last year doing what they do best, F-all, except bickering on live-online tv like kids about what their favourite colour is and whether May has 29 or 31 days.

I know this seems 'slightly' on the aggressive side but its infuriating as I have my heart set on a MC19 that is very so much within reach, but no point getting it if the new laws come in close. Any and all feedback welcome.
sil3nt
18th June 2011, 14:49
Searched high and low, called NZTA, and everything else. Does anyone know when the laws regarding Power to Weight Ratio's are coming in? Legitimately? I hear the goverment decided on it sometime last year, but have spent the last year doing what they do best, F-all, except bickering on live-online tv like kids about what their favourite colour is and whether May has 29 or 31 days.

I know this seems 'slightly' on the aggressive side but its infuriating as I have my heart set on a MC19 that is very so much within reach, but no point getting it if the new laws come in close. Any and all feedback welcome.What do you mean no point getting it? The new laws won't allow you to ride any decent sports bikes.
White trash
18th June 2011, 14:49
What "new learner laws"? There's been submissions and discussion, but no laws have been passed. I get at least three people a day telling me they're "just going to wait and buy a 650 when the new law starts" but no one can actually point me to where it's been agreed on and when it will come in to place.
superman
18th June 2011, 15:18
They are putting in new "harder" restricted tests from February for the newbies getting learners from August. That's all I've heard so far.
baptist
18th June 2011, 19:16
Seeing is believing...
FJRider
18th June 2011, 19:24
Seeing is believing...

Read and believe ...

http://www.3news.co.nz/Govt-praised-for-new-driving-safety-laws/tabid/419/articleID/209990/Default.aspx
Squiggles
18th June 2011, 19:59
I'd be very surprised if anything was passed before the start of next year...
FJRider
18th June 2011, 22:07
I'd be very surprised if anything was passed before the start of next year...

It already has ..
baptist
18th June 2011, 22:49
Read and believe ...

http://www.3news.co.nz/Govt-praised-for-new-driving-safety-laws/tabid/419/articleID/209990/Default.aspx

I know the learner rules are changing. I was querying the new weight to power ratio law for bikes. Not sure if that will be in place at the same time or not...:confused:
Ricardo S
18th June 2011, 23:22
I know the learner rules are changing. I was querying the new weight to power ratio law for bikes. Not sure if that will be in place at the same time or not...:confused:

i've been searching for some info on the subject as well and i came across to that:

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/consultation/driver-licensing-amendment-2011/q-and-a.html

i first though that it would come in to effect in august together with the raise of minimum age but it seems that the power to weight ratio won't come in to effect before feb next year...

anyway, the power to weight ratio stuff will more likely to be similar to the australia LAMS list. we currently dont have many of the bigger bikes available here on the nz market - usually they are special models, tuned (de-tuned?) to comply with the regulations.

pretty hard to pinpoint when at this stage and i wouldn't be holding my breath.

pretty obvious thou, if you can get your restricted/full do it asap.

cheers,
Ricardo
Squiggles
19th June 2011, 00:28
It already has ..

Really? As far as I can tell the bill covering licensing age (15 to 16) etc passed but the amendment rule that relates to motorcycle license conditions has yet to be signed off...

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/consultation/driver-licensing-amendment-2011/q-and-a.html
FJRider
19th June 2011, 09:48
Really? As far as I can tell the bill covering licensing age (15 to 16) etc passed but the amendment rule that relates to motorcycle license conditions has yet to be signed off...

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/consultation/driver-licensing-amendment-2011/q-and-a.html

AS I understand ...

The changes so far, means the LTSA require NO other law change ... to change the licence conditions ... it is now at their descretion when they do so ...
FJRider
19th June 2011, 10:08
I know the learner rules are changing. I was querying the new weight to power ratio law for bikes. Not sure if that will be in place at the same time or not...:confused:

Read section 27 and 37 regarding motorcycles ...

But the whole lot is interesting ...

http://www.transport.govt.nz/saferjourneys/Documents/SaferJourneyStrategy.pdf

In short ... it has been stated it will be implemented by 2020 ... MY bet is it will be sooner ...
Alex Wong
19th June 2011, 11:09
How soon though...2020 or sooner is a tad vague. I guess theres no telling then :S
Looks like its time to buy that MC19 huh?
FJRider
19th June 2011, 11:14
How soon though...2020 or sooner is a tad vague. I guess theres no telling then :S
Looks like its time to buy that MC19 huh?

This IS New Zealand goverment we are talking about ... Get your FULL licence ... and buy whatever you want ... keep the GN untill then ...
baptist
19th June 2011, 18:37
Read section 27 and 37 regarding motorcycles ...

But the whole lot is interesting ...

http://www.transport.govt.nz/saferjourneys/Documents/SaferJourneyStrategy.pdf

In short ... it has been stated it will be implemented by 2020 ... MY bet is it will be sooner ...

:niceone: Good to know, I was a little worried my Scorpio would end up worthless pretty soon (no comments please!!!) now I can keep it a little longer for my daily commute and keep the bigger one for fun times (or until one of the registrations runs out then the little one is gone!!:bye:).

Hey I just thought 2020, I will be retiring then so don't need a bike 'cos I'll will get my bus pass...:lol:
FJRider
19th June 2011, 18:44
Hey I just thought 2020, I will be retiring then so don't need a bike 'cos I'll will get my bus pass...:lol:

By 2020 ... the goverment .... in an attempt to reduce unemployment ... will have lowered the retirement age to 35 ... :beer: