Aftermarket parts shopping?

[Grant`]

I seem to have this compulsive problem of buying bits and bobs to continue modifying my bike.

I have been shopping on E-Bay and also European websites for differing things for my bike almost to an excessive extent. Normally at least 1-2 new things each week as of late.

Do other people have this problem or is it just a woman thing and that is possibly what I am turning into? :weep:

[The Singing Chef]

If i had a nice bike...and the money..then i would...means you can "accessorize" :banana:

[Grant`]

If i had a nice bike...and the money..then i would...means you can "accessorize" :banana:

Well I have the money, although I could utilise it on other more important things I just don't and spend it on my bike.

[The Singing Chef]

Well I have the money, although I could utilise it on other more important things I just don't and spend it on my bike.

Yea i hear ya, i just spend more and more shit, kinda fun really, till you realise you don't really need it

[bogan]

I seem to have this compulsive problem of buying bits and bobs to continue modifying my bike.

I have been shopping on E-Bay and also European websites for differing things for my bike almost to an excessive extent. Normally at least 1-2 new things each week as of late.

Do other people have this problem or is it just a woman thing and that is possibly what I am turning into? :weep:

I have the same <s>problem</s> solution, currently got 500 bucks worth of stuff on the way :woohoo: What sort of bike/mods you got/doing?

[Grant`]

I have a Honda CB1000R Predator.

Current mods include.

Radiator Guard
2 bros black series exhaust
Carbon Fibre rear hugger
Tail Tidy
Pack Rack (if you can call it a mod)
Light Guard
De-Cat Pipe
Heated Handgrips

Arrived but yet to be installed.

Power Commander V

Ordered and waiting on delivery

Shorty Levers
Integrated rear indicator/tail light unit
Reservoir socks (Waste of fucking money but why not)
Frame Sliders

Thats just what I have brought for the bike off the top of my head, I have also brought gear for me as well.

2 Piece Leathers
Gore Tex Gloves
Rain Suit.

However in all this time spent trawling websites for bargains, I have managed to do13,000k on the bike since I got it mid December so it does a fair amount of travelling around also.

[bogan]

Nice bike that. Trying to think what else you could do, but looks as if you got it covered!

[Grant`]

Nice bike that. Trying to think what else you could do, but looks as if you got it covered!

3 other things I want and I am fairly well sorted. Bar End Mirrors, steering damper and adjustable rearsets.
However the steering damper and rearset have to come out of europe due to being a euro model bike and well the price is putting me off at the moment.

[bogan]

3 other things I want and I am fairly well sorted. Bar End Mirrors, steering damper and adjustable rearsets.
However the steering damper and rearset have to come out of europe due to being a euro model bike and well the price is putting me off at the moment.

There isn't more generic rearset options that will fit? We see many different ones put on RC31 on another forum, I think somebody did some ZX9 pillion pegs even.

[Grant`]

Can't say that I have looked at modifying another type of rearset at all. Could be an option if prices don't improve for euro one.

[Robert Taylor]

I seem to have this compulsive problem of buying bits and bobs to continue modifying my bike.

I have been shopping on E-Bay and also European websites for differing things for my bike almost to an excessive extent. Normally at least 1-2 new things each week as of late.

Do other people have this problem or is it just a woman thing and that is possibly what I am turning into? :weep:

Is the business that you are employed in adversely affected by people bypassing it and buying offshore? Thereby threatening its ability to employ staff or even its survival? Where do all these people go?
I believe that with nearly all consumer products ( not only motorcycle gear ) this has reached epidemic proportions, thats without anyone emotively chiming in that ''goods and services are too expensive in NZ'' The reasons are far more complex and I have no wish to get into a slanging match with any keyboard jockies with a belligerent mentality.
Id just like to hear if anyone actually cares about this negative by-product.

[jaffaonajappa]

Time to buy a 2nd bike Grant...and that van. Trackbike :)
Then you can spend as much as you want...and not worry about reaching the end of the 'must-have' list :P

[jaffaonajappa]

Is the business that you are employed in adversely affected by people bypassing it and buying offshore? Thereby threatening its ability to employ staff or even its survival? Where do all these people go?
I believe that with nearly all consumer products ( not only motorcycle gear ) this has reached epidemic proportions, thats without anyone emotively chiming in that ''goods and services are too expensive in NZ'' The reasons are far more complex and I have no wish to get into a slanging match with any keyboard jockies with a belligerent mentality.
Id just like to hear if anyone actually cares about this negative by-product.

Hi Robert,
Yeah, suspect 90% of us would be concerned about it....and most of us (I think) are aware of it to some extent.
But the current environment - kiwis (like almost all nationalities) think short-term, and think 'me me now now'. I am one of them. I am not willing to take a hit financially in the short and medium term, in order to help sustain the local retailers, unless they offer me something 'extra'. By extra, I mean the shopping experience really...the chance to go in and Look at their gears, hold them, touch them, compare them, and only then will I purchase from them.
Am afraid I would purchase from a US or UK internet supplier, before a kiwi internet supplier, every time the overseas guy offers it cheaper.

Edit. The only option other than local retailers offering something 'extra', would be for some form of government protection to the local industry. Even in industries that export and make money....all recent govt have headed in the opposite direction - kiwis are encouraged to embrace the Free Market philosophy with open arms......stuff the short term consequences. Yeah....sometimes it strikes me as a new age socialism PC Greenie thing. Do you have a solution or recommendation?

[2wheeldrifter]

Do other people have this problem or is it just a woman thing and that is possibly what I am turning into? :weep:

Well not sure as you are turning into a woman, more like a man who cross dresses... which does seem to fit the criteria of owing a Honda.. :)




Anyway post a pic.................. of the bike!

[Gremlin]

Is the business that you are employed in adversely affected by people bypassing it and buying offshore?
For me... no. We're service based, so we're selling our skills to fix problems... IT.

Yes Grant, you're perfectly normal. Try buying the bike, and before you've collected it, you've sent the dealer a care package (gear removed from your last bike) that takes them 8 hours of labour to fit. Then you continue buying more stuff.

First couple of months was like that for me. The accessories weigh in around 5-10kg, but all useful.

And for Robert, the stuff available here, GPS, Baehr etc, has been bought locally, as I sure need the support for wiring and fitting plus extra parts. Numerous accessories courtesy of Touratech, Twisted Throttle and AdvDesigns simply aren't available here.

[gammaguy]

Is the business that you are employed in adversely affected by people bypassing it and buying offshore? Thereby threatening its ability to employ staff or even its survival? Where do all these people go?
I believe that with nearly all consumer products ( not only motorcycle gear ) this has reached epidemic proportions, thats without anyone emotively chiming in that ''goods and services are too expensive in NZ'' The reasons are far more complex and I have no wish to get into a slanging match with any keyboard jockies with a belligerent mentality.
Id just like to hear if anyone actually cares about this negative by-product.

Few care,witness the number of people buying crap quality Chinese scooters and pitbikes because they are cheap

Its a downward spiral,and dont i know it,I left after all didnt I?

Sad but true.Most people can see its a matter of time before retailing motorcycle accessories in the traditional way in NZ goes the way of bottled milk and telegrams,but they are willing to sacrifice it for the short term gain of internet prices and selection.

some call it progress....

[Grant`]

Is the business that you are employed in adversely affected by people bypassing it and buying offshore? Thereby threatening its ability to employ staff or even its survival? Where do all these people go?
I believe that with nearly all consumer products ( not only motorcycle gear ) this has reached epidemic proportions, thats without anyone emotively chiming in that ''goods and services are too expensive in NZ'' The reasons are far more complex and I have no wish to get into a slanging match with any keyboard jockies with a belligerent mentality.
Id just like to hear if anyone actually cares about this negative by-product.

Hi Robert
First off maybe my first post is a bit mis-leading I don't just buy from overseas websites or not support local business' if they have what I want. The bike I own being a european model honestly does not have a lot of parts available here. The ones I have been able to buy through NZ dealerships I have.

The Exhaust, PCV, the hugger and the Leathers and some other stuff all came through NZ companies......

However somethings I have been unable to even source in NZ or it has been so ludicrously priced I am not going to shoot myself in the foot to support a NZ business and pay sometimes twice to three times as much, just to line some persons pocket in NZ.
I have plenty of people that would back me up, if I get good service I will continue to buy and I am a regular spender at a number of local shops for exactly that reason.

The rearseat, I have asked 2 to 3 companies over here already and no one stocks anything for my bike, I have found 1 company that sells a steering damper but its not what I am after.

To answer your other question, I work in a Bank (in the business division) so yes I know quite a bit about the diverse conditions NZ business' are going through and some of the challenges they face. But that still doesn't change my opinion of me going with out so somebody here can make higher mark ups off my hard earned cash.

[Grant`]

Time to buy a 2nd bike Grant...and that van. Trackbike :)
Then you can spend as much as you want...and not worry about reaching the end of the 'must-have' list :P

Mate have you got direct access to my brain...... If i get the promotion I am after well who knows, I could have that van and track bike sitting in the drive very soon!

[Maha]

You ommitted that lovely fitted sheepy...:2thumbsup
I dont understand the expenditure expended on a disposible item thing.
It really pained me to fit a givi screen (the smallest avaliable) to the Honda...:weep:

[Grant`]

You ommitted that lovely fitted sheepy...:2thumbsup
I dont understand the expenditure expended on a disposible item thing.
It really pained me to fit a givi screen (the smallest avaliable) to the Honda...:weep:

Your old and luxuries like screens and heated handgrips are allowed (i know you want some haha)

[Maha]

Your old and luxuries like screens and heated handgrips are allowed (i know you want some haha)

Really needed a screen, looked like I had Parkinsons at anything over 120...:killingme

[diablo]

to the first question YES!
addicted to ebay, especially with the US dollar so good for us at the moment..

[Swoop]

Is the business that you are employed in adversely affected by people bypassing it and buying offshore? Thereby threatening its ability to employ staff or even its survival?

Id just like to hear if anyone actually cares about this negative by-product.
Hi Robert.
I recently went through an exercise just like this. I required an item that is represented in NZ via a wholesaler and retailer network and I deliberately went through a major NZ retailer to "keep the $$'s in NZ hands".

The retailer said "no worries, we can get that for you".
Unfortunately two days later I get a phonecall saying "we are unable to help you". No reasons why, no alternative options suggested.

The result is that a UK company got a sale and 5 days later the product is sitting at home. Purchased at a cheaper price as well.
It cost me an hour tracking the item down, after failing to locate in Japan and the USA.

The attitude and approach of NZ retailers leaves something to be desired.

[bogan]

You ommitted that lovely fitted sheepy...:2thumbsup
I dont understand the expenditure expended on a disposible item thing.
It really pained me to fit a givi screen (the smallest avaliable) to the Honda...:weep:

But if you fit enough stuff, it goes from a disposable item to a personal item, fit even more and it's a work of art! I never understand people who keep buying newer bikes every few years, it's not like they are getting any better are they? :scratch:


Id just like to hear if anyone actually cares about this negative by-product.

From another point of view, it's a positive by-product to force businesses to still be competitive; after all, they are businesses, not charities.

[bogan]

Can't say that I have looked at modifying another type of rearset at all. Could be an option if prices don't improve for euro one.

If you're going from fixed to adjustable rearsets? you will probably need a 'jump plate' anyway, so easy to pick out some rear sets you like, then just get somebody to machine up a jump plate to fit them to the bike with a bunch of holes for adjustment.

[Maha]

But if you fit enough stuff, it goes from a disposable item to a personal item, fit even more and it's a work of art!

Like a pair of eight year old undies?...:lol:

[imdying]

Do other people have this problem or is it just a woman thing and that is possibly what I am turning into? :weep:Naaah, I've spent more on shit for a brand new bike than it cost me to buy in the first place, and I'm still standing up to piss.

[imdying]

Is the business that you are employed in adversely affected by people bypassing it and buying offshore?No, I don't sell luxury item crap, only stuff that actually benefits the country.

[Digitdion]

Is the business that you are employed in adversely affected by people bypassing it and buying offshore? Thereby threatening its ability to employ staff or even its survival? Where do all these people go?
I believe that with nearly all consumer products ( not only motorcycle gear ) this has reached epidemic proportions, thats without anyone emotively chiming in that ''goods and services are too expensive in NZ'' The reasons are far more complex and I have no wish to get into a slanging match with any keyboard jockies with a belligerent mentality.
Id just like to hear if anyone actually cares about this negative by-product.

I certainly care about Businesses in New Zealand. I would love to support them all the time.Problem is, I have to look after myself first. When buying accessories or parts for my bike so many times its the same old thing. We can get that says the bike shop, but its ex japan or whatever, and its gunna cost mega dollars.

When in business I have to keep my costs down. So its not rocket science.I buy from overseas. Once again I would love to spend all my cash at shops here in NZ, But with the current business models out there(way to many links in the chain
taking there cut) I have no choice.

I have one question for all business owners out there. When you buy parts or stock or inventory, where does it come from? And do you buy parts or stock from a supplier with the best deal?(thats if you have a choice)

One thing that I am not sure if its been said, its not all bad someone spending there money overseas.For me a big bonus is saving cash. The money that I save, I can spend here.

I personally feel with free trade and the internet etc etc, things have changed so much that its time to allow businesses to do the same as what I can do. But thats a horrible twisted web.

Until then, I will try to run my personal empire as best I can. Just like a bike shop. Sourcing bits and pieces as cheap and efficient as I can.

[boman]

It has been said before. We all would like to support NZ businesses, and we do. But when you can get a product landed on your front door, in less time and for less money than buying off a NZ agent, then we tend to shop off shore. I myself am waiting for a part to arrive. It has been a month now, and if I had bought the part off E-Bay, then I would already have it. The reason I am waiting, is that the part was apart of the sale, so is "costing" me nothing.

Generally the parts purchased, by me anyway, are parts that are cosmetic. They will not need servicing, so need no warranty.

[Grant`]

I think myself and by the looks of it a lot of other people would love to support NZ business' more but they make it hard for themselves either becuase they are lazy or are hamstringed by something.

There is plenty of aftermarket companies through E-Bay etc that people could always try and work a deal of some sort to become a distributor for them over here. I would happily pay a few dollars more for something but not stupid prices.

[Ram Solutions]

I have one question for all business owners out there. When you buy parts or stock or inventory, where does it come from? And do you buy parts or stock from a supplier with the best deal?(thats if you have a choice)

Until then, I will try to run my personal empire as best I can. Just like a bike shop. Sourcing bits and pieces as cheap and efficient as I can.[/QUOTE]

We buy stock straight from the manufacturer and their best deal is 1% discount if you buy 500 units of the one item. ..... Plus.... you have the privilege of paying up front, and then waiting a mandatory 4 weeks while they sit on the order before sending it out. ......And... raping you for freight. Landing cost of bringing an item into NZ can in some cases cost as much as the item itself..!

[Ram Solutions]

I think myself and by the looks of it a lot of other people would love to support NZ business' more but they make it hard for themselves either becuase they are lazy or are hamstringed by something.

There is plenty of aftermarket companies through E-Bay etc that people could always try and work a deal of some sort to become a distributor for them over here. I would happily pay a few dollars more for something but not stupid prices.



.....try hamstrung...!

Also consider a lot of those ebay retailers operate as agents only and arrange drop shipments without even touching the goods. Anyone considering competing with an ebay retailer by becoming a distributor in NZ doesn't make sense,... as the local expectation (hence this thread) is that YOU carry the goods such that you can service your customer efficiently and CHEAPLY...!!? Bit of an oxymoron isn't it? You now have the same landing and holding costs that every other NZ importer/ distributor has......

I can hear it now......" Gee, that new NZ distributor seems really expensive..... I wonder if I can buy it cheaper overseas...?:lol:

[Grant`]

.....try hamstrung...!

Also consider a lot of those ebay retailers operate as agents only and arrange drop shipments without even touching the goods. Anyone considering competing with an ebay retailer by becoming a distributor in NZ doesn't make sense,... as the local expectation (hence this thread) is that YOU carry the goods such that you can service your customer efficiently and CHEAPLY...!!? Bit of an oxymoron isn't it? You now have the same landing and holding costs that every other NZ importer/ distributor has......

I can hear it now......" Gee, that new NZ distributor seems really expensive..... I wonder if I can buy it cheaper overseas...?:lol:

The thing is, I don't mind paying a little bit more and knowing that I have a NZ based business to deal with I would happily do that. I have no hassle of goods going missing or dodgy dealers (I hope) etc. But when I am paying upwards of $100 more for something I can source from overseas which is quite possibly coming from the same place the NZ distributor is getting it why should I pay that price.

Local Honda dealer for a genuine seat cowl for my bike $700 a genuine seat cowl from honda in the UK shipped and landed to my door will cost me less than $350. Why would anybody in there right mind buy the local one? If that local Honda dealer could do the work and ship in that seat cowl and sell it to me for $375-$400 sure I would buy it as the covenience out ways the slight price increase, when price out weights convenience you lose customers everytime.

People are to concerned about there money and how much they are paying for it and if business' can't adjust with that then others will spring up that can adapt with those times.

That is 1 example there is better examples I am sure and I know Honda already has a bad rep for inflated prices over here but hopefully you can see what I am trying to get at.

[imdying]

Local Honda dealer for a genuine seat cowl for my bike $700 a genuine seat cowl from honda in the UK shipped and landed to my door will cost me less than $350.Shop around, the one on the RR is NZD$630 and USD$163 delivered. Fuck you Blue Wing Honda :sunny:

[nodrog]

The only thing I buy Locally is my petrol, and thats only because I havent figured out how to frieght it here yet.

[The Pastor]

Is the business that you are employed in adversely affected by people bypassing it and buying offshore? Thereby threatening its ability to employ staff or even its survival? Where do all these people go?
I believe that with nearly all consumer products ( not only motorcycle gear ) this has reached epidemic proportions, thats without anyone emotively chiming in that ''goods and services are too expensive in NZ'' The reasons are far more complex and I have no wish to get into a slanging match with any keyboard jockies with a belligerent mentality.
Id just like to hear if anyone actually cares about this negative by-product.

I (generally) don't care about kiwi business and would rather grab a product from overseas than pay higher price in nz.

Probs would still get any susspension parts through you tho, as they require someone with skill (which you undoubtedly have in abundance) to set up and use properly. I don't mind paying for that premium, IF I get good service.

But when it comes to retail products that require no service such as helmets, levers, lights, tyres, parts etc etc, why should i pay more, 9 times out of 10 you get shafted with shit service, shit price, shit product.

[ac3_snow]

I would probably be 30/70, overseas/NZ. I had great service from a bike shop here yesterday, bits I wanted were cheaper than anywhere else , NZ or afar, and turned up less than 24 hrs later!

[Ram Solutions]

The thing is, I don't mind paying a little bit more and knowing that I have a NZ based business to deal with I would happily do that. I have no hassle of goods going missing or dodgy dealers (I hope) etc. But when I am paying upwards of $100 more for something I can source from overseas which is quite possibly coming from the same place the NZ distributor is getting it why should I pay that price.

Local Honda dealer for a genuine seat cowl for my bike $700 a genuine seat cowl from honda in the UK shipped and landed to my door will cost me less than $350. Why would anybody in there right mind buy the local one? If that local Honda dealer could do the work and ship in that seat cowl and sell it to me for $375-$400 sure I would buy it as the covenience out ways the slight price increase, when price out weights convenience you lose customers everytime.

People are to concerned about there money and how much they are paying for it and if business' can't adjust with that then others will spring up that can adapt with those times.

That is 1 example there is better examples I am sure and I know Honda already has a bad rep for inflated prices over here but hopefully you can see what I am trying to get at.

....have no beef with you there! Sometimes one has to look at whether the distribution chain is a bit long.....

also you are the only one who can put a price on service...! It's only natural for customers to shop around and decide what suits their needs.

[White trash]

Id just like to hear if anyone actually cares about this negative by-product.

Hi Robert, yes I care. Greatly. Like you, I rely on people buying motorcycles and their parts off me. Here's a scenario for you from the other side of the coin that has really pissed me off today.

Yamaha have recently released the new R-15 in New Zealand. Sports commuter, low cost, modern styling, fun to ride. In India, this is THE (affordable) bike to own. The accessories market for them is MASSIVE, one of the major players with the best gear being Daytex, a subsidary of Daytona. The range of gear they supply is simply astounding. I have my parts guys enquire into the sort of stuff that the target market of these machines is going to be interested in. Mufflers, rear sets, wave rotors etc etc.

Now. There are two New Zealand distributors for Daytona. Neither have any of the gear available and no references for the stuff, which is understandable. To get a P&A, we need to supply the part numbers, which Daytona will not supply us because we're not the distributor and they're very reluctant to deal with us round eyes. Ask the distributors if they'll do the investigation, not interested.

So, in order for us to hot up our demo or a customers bike, we have no choice but to buy off a dealer, in India or Malaysia because the distributor simply isn't interested in looking at it. This raises two other points.

We'll get the shit far cheaper than if we COULD buy it from the NZ agent.

The second point, and one that's potentially a real fucker, is both of the NZ agents can get their knickers in a twist and cry "You're parallel importing our shit, we're no longer supplying you our other products."

My customers want bling for their bikes, we want to personalise our demo.

What are your suggestions given the above scenario?

[jaffaonajappa]

Hi Robert, ...........
What are your suggestions given the above scenario?

God, I hope he doesnt recommend you move to Mumbai.

[jaffaonajappa]

Mate have you got direct access to my brain...... If i

Yes.




But also....I remembered you talking about wanting to do this at the Newbies ride / Mangawai heads pub a few weeks ago, lol.

Good luck on the promotion front!

[Digitdion]

I have one question for all business owners out there. When you buy parts or stock or inventory, where does it come from? And do you buy parts or stock from a supplier with the best deal?(thats if you have a choice)

Until then, I will try to run my personal empire as best I can. Just like a bike shop. Sourcing bits and pieces as cheap and efficient as I can.

We buy stock straight from the manufacturer and their best deal is 1% discount if you buy 500 units of the one item. ..... Plus.... you have the privilege of paying up front, and then waiting a mandatory 4 weeks while they sit on the order before sending it out. ......And... raping you for freight. Landing cost of bringing an item into NZ can in some cases cost as much as the item itself..![/QUOTE]

I take it the manufacturer is oversea's

[Grant`]

Yes.




But also....I remembered you talking about wanting to do this at the Newbies ride / Mangawai heads pub a few weeks ago, lol.

Good luck on the promotion front!

Oh yeah, should of thought about that!

[cheshirecat]

So does the choice come down to supply the customer or support the importer and is it feasible to parallel import? The NZ dollar is super strong at the mo (london feels almost reasonable!
I mean if you build a strong customer base and keep moving according to exchange rates and suppliers with a good web shop as well that cust base could become very loyal. I was quoted over $200 for one set of front disc pads albiet QEM, they didn't price non QEM, by a dealer and then found on Ebay 35 pounds shipped for both front sets and rear (ceramic carbon 5 star feedback rating) - as much as I like supporting local bike shops there is a limit.


Hi Robert, yes I care. Greatly. Like you, I rely on people buying motorcycles and their parts off me. Here's a scenario for you from the other side of the coin that has really pissed me off today.

What are your suggestions given the above scenario?

[Gremlin]

My customers want bling for their bikes, we want to personalise our demo.

What are your suggestions given the above scenario?
If you want to spend the time (with possibly no benefit), I'd be laying my cards on the table with the distributor, giving them the option. If that has zero response, I'd be taking that response plus the rest of the story to the manufacturer, to demonstrate the distributor is useless.

Depending on what you want, you could be in with a shot at becoming the NZ distributor.

We've dealt with useless distributors in NZ before, and even had the option of becoming distributors, but it's usually a lack of time/energy in order to take it up properly...

[Robert Taylor]

Hi Robert, yes I care. Greatly. Like you, I rely on people buying motorcycles and their parts off me. Here's a scenario for you from the other side of the coin that has really pissed me off today.

Yamaha have recently released the new R-15 in New Zealand. Sports commuter, low cost, modern styling, fun to ride. In India, this is THE (affordable) bike to own. The accessories market for them is MASSIVE, one of the major players with the best gear being Daytex, a subsidary of Daytona. The range of gear they supply is simply astounding. I have my parts guys enquire into the sort of stuff that the target market of these machines is going to be interested in. Mufflers, rear sets, wave rotors etc etc.

Now. There are two New Zealand distributors for Daytona. Neither have any of the gear available and no references for the stuff, which is understandable. To get a P&A, we need to supply the part numbers, which Daytona will not supply us because we're not the distributor and they're very reluctant to deal with us round eyes. Ask the distributors if they'll do the investigation, not interested.

So, in order for us to hot up our demo or a customers bike, we have no choice but to buy off a dealer, in India or Malaysia because the distributor simply isn't interested in looking at it. This raises two other points.

We'll get the shit far cheaper than if we COULD buy it from the NZ agent.

The second point, and one that's potentially a real fucker, is both of the NZ agents can get their knickers in a twist and cry "You're parallel importing our shit, we're no longer supplying you our other products."

My customers want bling for their bikes, we want to personalise our demo.

What are your suggestions given the above scenario?

Part of this in fact is that dealers themselves need to commit to stocking much much more product themselves, rather than relying on the distributor as their parts inventory. Were you prepared to order in huge volume?
Many distributors themselves are too spooked to stock too much as they are being murdered by the internet and US companies falling over themselves to liquidate stock at firesale prices, as their economy is in a HUGE mess.
This in turn is not helping our economy, it may surprise many on here that owning a small business in NZ is NOT a license to print money. As many as 75% of small businesses in NZ made a loss last year. Fortunately I was not one of them and made a modest profit, but only by adapting to new and often unpalatable realities and working my butt off. Those businesses employ people.......................
It is clear that our dollar should be significantly weaker and that we should predominantly be an export based economy. While I have always been a tory Im against the open slather that prevails with the market as in the end it does us ALL no good. Take out the personal gain / ''Im alright Jack'' / selfish mentality. The world is in a mess right now because of one over-riding theme that all sectors of society are not exempt from, PERSONAL GREED.

[98tls]

I seem to have this compulsive problem of buying bits and bobs to continue modifying my bike.


And the problem is?Ive been doing the same for the last 10 years.Think yourself lucky least your complulsions late model,mines an old hag from the past.Aftermarket Rims/sprocket etc,undertray/leds carbon plate holder(sad eh),Hayabusa calipers (there crap)5/8th mater,TLR rear caliper,aftermarket rearsets,Carbon hugger,6 bolt clutch,billet pressure plate,see thru clutch cover.aftermarket rear damper,aftermarket steering damper,Carbon screen,billet top triple,aftermarket bar end mirrors,billet mirror block off plates,V2 ride height adjuster,aftermarket gas tank cap,Yosh box (ecu tuner),full Yosh exhaust (not fitted)Carbon front guard,Gsxr forks and radial calipers......theres more but ive got work so away to zzzzz,as i say "whats the problem,enjoy and post up some pics eh.Final word on the subject would be spend some $ on the suspenders,bloke with the post previous to me could help no doubt.

[Cracker]

The basic motorcycle consumables market being tyres, filters,oil is well seviced with good prices in NZ.

The bling/accessory market is so diverse and fluid by nature. The product is generally developed by small companies in tune with the market who have the nause to market on the internet and we are there customers. I suggest NZ companies do the same, innovation rather than warehouseman.

I like a stronger dollar, makes me feel the country has got a bit guts left in it and the shoppings good. Be grateful the Chinese have not copied the Ohlins brand and made it better for half the price (impossible).

I try to support Haldanes, Drury Tyres, Dave Cole, Robert Taylor CRT because they are good bastards who do the best.

[Owl]

I seem to have this compulsive problem of buying bits and bobs to continue modifying my bike.

No, you only have a problem when you run out of things to modify on your bike and you start buying bits and bobs for a bike you don't even own.:facepalm:

[Grant`]

No, you only have a problem when you run out of things to modify on your bike and you start buying bits and bobs for a bike you don't even own.:facepalm:

Yes well chances of that are slim to nil thank god. :banana:

[imdying]

Part of this in fact is that dealers themselves need to commit to stocking much much more product themselves, rather than relying on the distributor as their parts inventory. Were you prepared to order in huge volume?If that's the case, then either the dealer or the distributor is now superfluous.

[Swoop]

OK, as a slight variation to this theme...

What about "official" brand dealers who refuse to support or stock equipment for bikes that are over X years old?

They are out there, and although they have the badge on their building, they will not play ball with the bike owner of an older machine.

Overseas sourcing is the only option in many cases.

[Shaun]

I am a little confused as to what is write and what is wrong with the Internet shopping. Whilst I understand points made by Robert and others RE the NZ Industry/wholesalers etc ( Many have helped me heaps) I also understand some wanting to spend less because they can!

Now if the purchase is made via Internet, then the money has gone off shore, so NO gain to the NZ Economy at all??? O YES there is, now if the part was gunna cost you $500 here and $300 there, that Now means you the buyers are left with another $200 that you could spend here in NZ Putting back into the economy here.

The Retailers them selves are to blaim for most lost sales, as we are in YEAR 2011 and the internet shopping options here in NZ for motorcycle related product is crap crap crap!!!!

I could set myself up as an agent for a USA parts supplier tomorrow, and do all via Credit cards on line, and the parts would be at your house in around 5 days, and you would have a NZ Agent person to chase if any drama with product, this would Take more Capital than I have to play with though, so why has NO SHOP done this yet?



Maybe a SHOP OWNER/MANAGER will read this, and offer me a job, I am sick of working for myself, so I sacked my arse yesterday

[Motig]

Well my internet buying hasn't gone past NZ's shores yet but after looking at Ebay and overseas sellers stock and prices I can see that it wont be long till I buy off shore. Unfortunately the mark up on NZ stuff compared to the price overseas including shipping is a no brainer. Sorry just need more bang for my buck.

[Banditbandit]

I seem to have this compulsive problem of buying bits and bobs to continue modifying my bike.

I have been shopping on E-Bay and also European websites for differing things for my bike almost to an excessive extent. Normally at least 1-2 new things each week as of late.

Do other people have this problem or is it just a woman thing and that is possibly what I am turning into? :weep:

It's dangerous to look at accessories on the net .. There's a whole list of stuff I WANT .. but I've managed to restain myself ... apart from stuff to keep bikes on the road the only thing I indulged in was a flyscreen from Skidmarks in England for my naked 650 Bandit ... (I don't know about reducing wind .. but it certainly catches flies ...)

But it's a huge temptation .. Yeah ...

[SVboy]

To the OP--Feed your addiction!! NZ/Overseas-whatever works!

[ukusa]

Now if the purchase is made via Internet, then the money has gone off shore, so NO gain to the NZ Economy at all??? O YES there is, now if the part was gunna cost you $500 here and $300 there, that Now means you the buyers are left with another $200 that you could spend here in NZ Putting back into the economy here.

so yeah, the change might get spent here, or then again because I saved so much, I might get an extra piece of bling to the value of that $200 at the same time, so 2 for the price of one.
Last year I had some footpegs sent over (amongst some other bits n pieces) that were the wrong ones (the website had the wrong picture), so the bike shop in Florida got me to send them back, they refunded me the freight cost for this, and then offered me 10% off my next purchase because of their mistake.
So I ended up adding an extra couple of items in with the correct footpegs & got it all here with no freight cost.
The reality is (for me anyway), if the part is $500 here & $300 there, I will buy the $300 there. If restrictions were put in place to stop me from buying bling overseas, the reality is that I probably wouldn't buy the bling at all.

[Grant`]

To the OP--Feed your addiction!! NZ/Overseas-whatever works!

Please don't tell me your work at the Problem Gambling line? :drool:

[Robert Taylor]

OK, as a slight variation to this theme...

What about "official" brand dealers who refuse to support or stock equipment for bikes that are over X years old?

They are out there, and although they have the badge on their building, they will not play ball with the bike owner of an older machine.

Overseas sourcing is the only option in many cases.

Fair comment, customers with older bikes are still customers!

[Robert Taylor]

If that's the case, then either the dealer or the distributor is now superfluous.

Thats pretty much where it is heading, and concedingly given the disinterested staff at many dealers ( but not all ) then you dont wonder at it.

[AllanB]

A interesting post.

One relevant to me as I do Internet shop, but I always try to get the local shop to do a deal first if it is on a stocked item.

BTW I have been waiting 4 weeks for a winter clothing item to be in store. Apparently it is 'on it's way'. I could have had it landed from a English shop for the same price within one week :(

Someone mentioned tyres are well serviced in New Zealand. Yes they may well be stocked but I question the prices we are paying. I suspect it is the middle man in NZ making the $ on these not the retailer.

A search of the NZ Companies Registrar for company owners and directors for motorcycle companies makes interesting reading. Vested interests in all aspects of NZ's motorcycle and parts industries being controlled by a select few.

[pritch]

I buy both from EBay and local sources. Generally if it is available here, I get it here.

Recently Bluewing did away with the Honda Riders Club. There goes my 10% discount, 24 hour breakdown service, insurance scheme, and most of my increasingly tenuous Honda brand loyalty.

That's all small beer though compared to the lady who ran the club and who has presumably lost her job.

Still, that 10% discount being unavailable could tip the scale in favour of importing more expensive items even after GST. Especially if the NZ importer doesn't stock the whole range and would likely take much longer to get the item in.

[Ocean1]

Vested interests in all aspects of NZ's motorcycle and parts industries being controlled by a select few.

Built a house recently? I've noticed similar effects in many other industries. Seems it's become the prefered method of securing forward business: take the whole industry hostage.

If there's no competition at the roots then it doesn't matter how good the rest of the supply chain is, the end user's fucked. And to be honest, in many instances the rest of that supply chain isn't that good either.

[Gremlin]

Someone mentioned tyres are well serviced in New Zealand. Yes they may well be stocked but I question the prices we are paying.
Not completely true actually. When tyres are launched, we get them a few months after other places such as the states.

When the PR3 is finally launched in my size, I'll be having a set fitted in the US in mid August. They should be at the dealer early July. Word currently, for NZ, is that we might see them before the end of the year... :(

[Grant`]

Not completely true actually. When tyres are launched, we get them a few months after other places such as the states.

When the PR3 is finally launched in my size, I'll be having a set fitted in the US in mid August. They should be at the dealer early July. Word currently, for NZ, is that we might see them before the end of the year... :(


I love my PR3's best thing since the PR2's :lol:

[Swoop]

Fair comment, customers with older bikes are still customers!
AMPS and Colemans could learn a thing or two from that post...

[Corse1]

I have the same <s>problem</s> solution, currently got 500 bucks worth of stuff on the way :woohoo:

Big problem,

Have money will spend. Wife reckons the garage is just one big money pit. $500 bucks too in the blink of an eye last week. $250.00 so far this week. And we moan about rego!!:(

[boman]

Big problem,

Have money will spend. Wife reckons the garage is just one big money pit. $500 bucks too in the blink of an eye last week. $250.00 so far this week. And we moan about rego!!:(

Me too. Waiting for some bits from three suppliers now. They had better start turning up soon, or I might buy some more.

[Corse1]

Me too. Waiting for some bits from three suppliers now. They had better start turning up soon, or I might buy some more.

Since this mornings post I have spent another $370.00:facepalm:

[Grant`]

Since this mornings post I have spent another $370.00:facepalm:

I have temporarily given my credit card to my partner so I can try and stop spending oodles of money....

Although I have just realised that Ebay using Paypal doesn't require me to have the credit card to make a purchase :2thumbsup

[Geeen]

Hopefully I will have spent $1100ish on custom pipes for the Speedy by Monday :2thumbsup

[98tls]

Anyone want to buy these?I turned down a set of BSTS before buying them and every time i saw a set i regretted not buying the Carbon,found a set last night for $2100 Aus so bought em.Dont ya just love the web.:weep:Old pics but there in mint condition.

[98tls]

I have temporarily given my credit card to my partner so I can try and stop spending oodles of money....

Although I have just realised that Ebay using Paypal doesn't require me to have the credit card to make a purchase :2thumbsup

:killingme:killingmeThats the beauty of it eh.

[Geeen]

Anyone want to buy these?I turned down a set of BSTS before buying them and every time i saw a set i regretted not buying the Carbon,found a set last night for $2100 Aus so bought em.Dont ya just love the web.:weep:Old pics but there in mint condition.

I'd love 'em, but my bike has a single sided swing arm. They shouldn't be too hard to move on though :drool:

[98tls]

I'd love 'em, but my bike has a single sided swing arm. They shouldn't be too hard to move on though :drool:

Yea there nice eh.Got plans for a Trumpet sssa myself for the TL,an ST one works.:2thumbsup

[Geeen]

Yea there nice eh.Got plans for a Trumpet sssa myself for the TL,an ST one works.:2thumbsup

Thats gonna be mean :2thumbsup OP is not alone then, bike mods are as addictive as the bikes themselves it seems.

[98tls]

Thats gonna be mean :2thumbsup OP is not alone then, bike mods are as addictive as the bikes themselves it seems.

Absolutely.Before that though these GSXR forks/radial calipers are going on it,mutton dressed up as lamb.:2thumbsupIts currently got Busa calipers on TL forks but there rubbish to be honest,tried pads etc but nope......there rubbish,would have been better to keep the TLs oem 4 pots.Nevermind by all accounts the radials are the way to go.:2thumbsup

[AllanB]

A local shop has a set of those light weight wheels. I lifted one up the other day and could not believe how light it was! Now carbon is even lighter! That price you paid for carbon ones is very good.

My latest big spend has gone Mr Taylors way. Fitted today, ready for a test ride tomorrow. :2thumbsup

I've seen a VRF800 single sided swingarm conversion on a Hornet 900. Hmmmm

[98tls]

A local shop has a set of those light weight wheels. I lifted one up the other day and could not believe how light it was! Now carbon is even lighter! That price you paid for carbon ones is very good.

My latest big spend has gone Mr Taylors way. Fitted today, ready for a test ride tomorrow. :2thumbsup

I've seen a VRF800 single sided swingarm conversion on a Hornet 900. Hmmmm

How much they asking for them A?Yea the BSTs were to good to turn down.The Carrozzerias are about 7kg lighter than stock rims,add in the rotating mass thing and yep,they make the bike feel like a new one.

[AllanB]

Before that though these GSXR forks/radial calipers are going on it


I see they have been moved out of the kitched then! :killingme:killingme:killingme


A few of the Hornet chaps in the USA are fitting RC51 front ends. Only thing is they ignore getting them set up correctly - springs etc and end up with a mainly expensive cosmetic change. Look the horn though!

[AllanB]

How much they asking for them A?

Can't remember - I do recall having to sit down after though! I'll check next week and let you know - big bucks, and I suspect you should get good $ for yours.

[98tls]

I see they have been moved out of the kitched then! :killingme:killingme:killingme


A few of the Hornet chaps in the USA are fitting RC51 front ends. Only thing is they ignore getting them set up correctly - springs etc and end up with a mainly expensive cosmetic change. Look the horn though!

:killingmeIndeed,there all boxed up to be sent to Mr Taylor to do his thing with,might add for a bloody resonable price to,was amazed at the figure he came back with to be honest considering what his reputation.

[98tls]

Can't remember - I do recall having to sit down after though! I'll check next week and let you know - big bucks, and I suspect you should get good $ for yours.

Do that mate.I paid $3000 for mine inclusive of Tri metal sprocket/high end chain and post to my door through a mate stateside,that was dealer cost plus 10%

[axdout]

Is the business that you are employed in adversely affected by people bypassing it and buying offshore? Thereby threatening its ability to employ staff or even its survival? Where do all these people go?
I believe that with nearly all consumer products ( not only motorcycle gear ) this has reached epidemic proportions, thats without anyone emotively chiming in that ''goods and services are too expensive in NZ'' The reasons are far more complex and I have no wish to get into a slanging match with any keyboard jockies with a belligerent mentality.
Id just like to hear if anyone actually cares about this negative by-product.

Probably not. If the NZ prices where only $50 more expensive I would support NZ retailers without a doubt but $200-$300, I gotta look out for myself first, and due to shit wages and expensive gas in this country a couple hundred here and there is useful.

[Geeen]

Absolutely.Before that though these GSXR forks/radial calipers are going on it,

According to another forum I'm a member of the K5/6 GSXR calipers are a straight swap onto my Speedy, where'd you get yours?

[98tls]

According to another forum I'm a member of the K5/6 GSXR calipers are a straight swap onto my Speedy, where'd you get yours?

Stralia mate.Whats wrong with the Speedy forks?Possibly if not much someone like Robert Taylor could sort them for you?The attraction of the Gixxer forks for me was being able to fit the radial calipers which no matter what i did with the old TL forks wasnt possible.Ive seen plenty of sets for sale here for decent money.

[98tls]

According to another forum I'm a member of the K5/6 GSXR calipers are a straight swap onto my Speedy, where'd you get yours?

:killingmeShit i completly mis read that,no matter.The calipers i bought are later but fit the forks fine.

[98tls]

Calipers fwiw,and he had just fitted new pads.

[Geeen]

Stralia mate.Whats wrong with the Speedy forks?Possibly if not much someone like Robert Taylor could sort them for you?The attraction of the Gixxer forks for me was being able to fit the radial calipers which no matter what i did with the old TL forks wasnt possible.Ive seen plenty of sets for sale here for decent money.

I'm after the calipers, Stock ones are a bit vague initially, something to do with poor design of the piston seal, also an underpowered master cylinder. Change to the suzi M/C and calipers, make up new brake lines, Job done.

[Geeen]

Oh, and a RT racetech transplant is on the wish list :drool:

[Shaun]

I'm after the calipers, Stock ones are a bit vague initially, something to do with poor design of the piston seal, also an underpowered master cylinder. Change to the suzi M/C and calipers, make up new brake lines, Job done.



I have 4 sets of Tocico callipers if interested, pm me

[Owl]

something to do with poor design of the piston seal, also an underpowered master cylinder.

It's the pistons themselves that are the problem and affected machines prior to Vin: 253302. Newer type were shaped differently (at the back) and coated.

They do actually work well if cleaned and freed up, but lasts less than 4000km, before having to redo.

[Robert Taylor]

Probably not. If the NZ prices where only $50 more expensive I would support NZ retailers without a doubt but $200-$300, I gotta look out for myself first, and due to shit wages and expensive gas in this country a couple hundred here and there is useful.

Yes I can understand that

[Subike]

After a local dealer charged me $430+gst to supply and fit
Fork seals to a set of forks which were already dismantled and cleaned,
I have lost respect for that local dealer.
$74.80 + for the seals
$18 for the fork oil
Labour 4 1/2 hrs !!!!!!!! what?????

I could have done that myself blindfolded in less time,
I was just suppoting a business trying to get back on its feet after the quake...

no wonder bike shops are closing their dors

[AllanB]

After a local dealer charged me $430+gst to supply and fit
Fork seals to a set of forks which were already dismantled and cleaned,
I have lost respect for that local dealer.
$74.80 + for the seals
$18 for the fork oil
Labour 4 1/2 hrs !!!!!!!! what?????

I could have done that myself blindfolded in less time,
I was just suppoting a business trying to get back on its feet after the quake...

no wonder bike shops are closing their dors


Name and shame I say! 4.5 hours!

For that price you probably could have sent them to RT for new seals, new springs and a good clean and gotten an improved front end for the same bucks!

[Robert Taylor]

After a local dealer charged me $430+gst to supply and fit
Fork seals to a set of forks which were already dismantled and cleaned,
I have lost respect for that local dealer.
$74.80 + for the seals
$18 for the fork oil
Labour 4 1/2 hrs !!!!!!!! what?????

I could have done that myself blindfolded in less time,
I was just suppoting a business trying to get back on its feet after the quake...

no wonder bike shops are closing their dors

What else did he do in that 4 and 1/2 hours? Its an hour max if the forks are already out of the bike

[Grant`]

mmmm parts are starting to arrive finally, next best feeling to actually buying them. Seeing the mail man show up with them knowing I can then get them on the bike.

[jaffaonajappa]

mmmm parts are starting to arrive finally, next best feeling to actually buying them. Seeing the mail man show up with them knowing I can then get them on the bike.

Ohhh Noice. Looking good man.
time for some pics of the whole bike soon I guess?

[Grant`]

Still a few parts to arrive yet.