Argh fook another FXR

[Buddha#81]

Other than waiting for a R6 shock to arrive I've finished my new FXR.....Quite easy really brought a TZR that was set up for a FXR converson already done, it was raced a couple of seasons ago and went into hiding untill i brought it off Bren who brought it back. Some bits and pieces had to be tidied and pulled the fxr fairing and tail off my FXR. I just finished the pipe and other than a couple of wee jobs its all done and ready for King Of Levels.

[crazy man]

why would you want to change it they go so good in stock condition

[bucketracer]

Other than waiting for a R6 shock to arrive I've finished my new FXR.....Quite easy really brought a TZR

Its a good looking job. Does the R6 shock fit the TZR? would a R1 shock also fit? I have a reasonable R1 shock, if anyone wants one for their project, PM me.

[Buddha#81]

why would you want to change it they go so good in stock condition

The Best lap time I have done at Ruapuna is a 2.01 on a FXR frame with upgraded suspension and wheels, I knocked out a 1.59 on a TZR/FXR without riding it before....No brainer really!

[crazy man]

The Best lap time I have done at Ruapuna is a 2.01 on a FXR frame with upgraded suspension and wheels, I knocked out a 1.59 on a TZR/FXR without riding it before....No brainer really!6 or so years ago l raced one no one got close to me and l could not fault it so why change it apart from make it go faster! it had been over 5 years sints l had riden a bucket!

[gav]

6 or so years ago l raced one no one got close to me and l could not fault it so why change it apart from make it go faster! it had been over 5 years sints l had riden a bucket!
Cos nothings really changed in the last 6 years, right? :facepalm:

[Kickaha]

6 or so years ago l raced one no one got close to me

Must be a pretty low level of competition up there

[gav]

Buddha, did you by chance weigh the two bikes? Much difference between them?

[Buddha#81]

no i didnt, i'm picking 5-10kg lighter, with the rear shock fitted if its anything like Yow Lings i'll be a happy camper!

[Kickaha]

it was raced a couple of seasons ago and went into hiding

Hiding? don't you mean after it gave you a hiding?


no i didnt, i'm picking 5-10kg lighter,

A few more pies and you'll make that up

[crazy man]

Must be a pretty low level of competition up thereit was all the welly lot out that raced at the gokart track

[crazy man]

Cos nothings really changed in the last 6 years, right? :facepalm:no it has not apart from you lot are like puting a rs125 engine:facepalm: into a 600 frame ie 100 in a 250 four lmao

[Moooools]

no it has not apart from you lot are like puting a rs125 engine:facepalm: into a 600 frame ie 100 in a 250 four lmao

The 250s from that era are the best road frames to use. If you go any bigger they get way heavy. And the smaller capacity bikes are usually steel framed or built as commuters. The 250s have reasonably good geometry and suspension too.

So in terms of price vs weight vs handling vs availability, the 1980s - 1990s aluminum 250 chassis are the best.

[F5 Dave]

Well there we have it from the expert. Not trying to take the piss but NZ is a big place & different ideas in different locations.

Nothing wrong with a steel frame, just can't put my finger on a decent production one to use. The SDR200 looks promising until you lift one up. But you could build a light one that was strong & good handling.

[F5 Dave]

it was all the welly lot out that raced at the gokart track
That must have been the once because I don't remember it. That long ago there weren't any really decent bikes here, things have come along in leaps & bounds. Me Hamish & Jay were clearing up the whole field on our 50s. Prior to that my H100 in bendy frame + 18" wheels was able to win easy enough.

[Moooools]

Hey now dave, just my two cents worth.
My first statement is pretty bold, but if you weigh it all up I think that is why most people end up with the 250 Al frames. Sure there is nothing wrong with a steel frame, but as you say it is a matter of what was developed long enough to now be cheap enough to bucket.

Not the absolute best handling or lightest frames, but there must be a reason so many people do it.

And I am by no means an expert but if I sit behind my keyboard I feel like one.

[F5 Dave]

it has been somewhat of a wgtn phenomena, although there are one or two TZRs popped up in Chch.

[Buddha#81]

They are lighter than the FXR, supension options are not limited to special builds, the frame cost me what I would have paid for a yss shock and 1/2 of the price of a RT Olins special build. I brought a R6 shock out of the USA for $13.95 USD and will bolt straight in. There is one other TZR in chch and I rode it 2 seconds a lap faster than my FXR that already had better wheels and front end. The TZR are a good size for a middle age fat bastard and you would struggle to get a FXR donk into a RS125 frame.

[F5 Dave]

You wouldn't struggle, you just wouldn't fit one. 4 strokes you see, aren't real racing engines, -heck they barely make acceptable lawn mowers. But in the right application like stationary pump or backup generator they can find their niche.

[jasonu]

You wouldn't struggle, you just wouldn't fit one. 4 strokes you see, aren't real racing engines, -heck they barely make acceptable lawn mowers. But in the right application like stationary pump or backup generator they can find their niche.

But Dave, I have been toying with the idea of fitting a CBR150 lump into my 97 RS chassis

[F5 Dave]

Ahh you troll, I don't believe you for a minute Gheymiester.

[Kickaha]

You wouldn't struggle, you just wouldn't fit one.

post 95 with the wider frame rails you will, however when you consider the finest 4 stroke bucket chassis known to man is a GN125 you just wouldn't bother with the RS

[F5 Dave]

well, that goes without saying.

[Kendog]

You wouldn't struggle, you just wouldn't fit one. 4 strokes you see, aren't real racing engines, -heck they barely make acceptable lawn mowers. But in the right application like stationary pump or backup generator they can find their niche.
I would of taken offense to this post last week, but on Monday I spent some quality time on rangi at the track. I discovered the attraction you crazy folk have with the twos.

[gav]

no it has not apart from you lot are like puting a rs125 engine:facepalm: into a 600 frame ie 100 in a 250 four lmao
Actually I don't know of any bike down here that fits that description, but thanks for your input .... :blink:

[Moooools]

They are lighter than the FXR, supension options are not limited to special builds, the frame cost me what I would have paid for a yss shock and 1/2 of the price of a RT Olins special build. I brought a R6 shock out of the USA for $13.95 USD and will bolt straight in. There is one other TZR in chch and I rode it 2 seconds a lap faster than my FXR that already had better wheels and front end. The TZR are a good size for a middle age fat bastard and you would struggle to get a FXR donk into a RS125 frame.

Do you know what the spring rate is like on the r6 shock compared to the TZR?

[Clivoris]

I would of taken offense to this post last week, but on Monday I spent some quality time on rangi at the track. I discovered the attraction you crazy folk have with the twos.

Go Rangi!!!

[koba]

Go Rangi!!!

Rangi scares me...

[jasonu]

not trying to take the piss but nz is a big place



now that is funny!!!!!

[F5 Dave]

yeah ok well taken out of context that is a silly statement, I was just pointing out that wtgn is not representative of all racing in the country.

[Buddha#81]

Well its seen the track in anger. I took Friday off to take the bike out to Ruapuna to test the FXR......Had mixed results but by the end of the Day Brendan had help with some pointers with suspesion mods (to be done later) and some jetting changes. I headed off to Levels with a happy warm glow.

Unfortunatly I had some electrical gremlims in Qualifying and managed to qualify in 4th behind the two Hoogies and Camo Jones.....not bad considering it was running like a bag of shit and a second or so faster than my best levels time.

Race one, with the electrical issues sorted I found some jetting changes I had made at the end of the day before, had stuffed up the good work done. I got a shit start which put me in the perfect position to see some streetstock/bucket carnage, tumbling down the track. It was a fairly unevenful race and rode the bike home in 4th behind the "kids" 2 x Hoogies and Cam jones.

Race two, Had made the jetting change back to the proven size from the day before. In the warm up lap it felt great and was looking forward to the race. grided up on the line and the bike started missing and just as they were going to start the race the bike died, I looked down and saw I was sitting in a puddle of gas! I pushed the bike to the side of the track and had a look it would seem I'm a goober and the carb bowl had fallen off thae carb.

Race three, with the bike sorted I wanted to put a good showing in the last race of the day, Finally the bike was going as it should. I got an average start but settled in to a good pace and the bike felt good, was pretty uneventful but brought it home in 3rd behind Camo and Al hoogie but beat James Hoogie with identical lap times! and knocked off 2 seconds a lap off my qualifying time That three seconds faster than I've been around Levels!!!!

Well done to Camo Jones for beating that pesky CBR of Al Hoogies on a fairly stock FXR.


Things to sort.......the rear spring needs preloading to counter the excessive weight and different linkages the R6 shock is now running in...New tyres are required the rear is 2003 vintage and feels like its the limiting factor. But after its first outing I am bloody happy with the results and can only get better with time on the bike and fine tuning!!!!

[F5 Dave]

. . . and had a look it would seem I'm a goober and the carb bowl had fallen off thae carb.
. . .
yup, that qualifies.

Sounds like you had a good development surge.

Maybe I won't trouble you on the 50 this year.


chances of troubling you on the 100 are even less given my current progress.:corn:

[Buddha#81]

Maybe I won't trouble you on the 50 this year.

Fook I hope you dont.......sucks being chased down by you on a 50!:gob:

[Buddha#81]

KOL rd2 done and dusted with mixed results, new rear slick and the preloaded rear shock all done and was picking up the new front slick at the meeting.

Qualifying: the first few laps were spent scrubbing in the new rear, I decided to leave the old font on incase the fitting turned to poo. i didn't expect too much as i never really got a decent run with the ammount of traffic. managed to qualify in 4th in buckets and 15th overall (40+ bikes)

Race 1: gridded up and got a shit start but soon found myself in a three way battle for third with James and Matt Hoogie (who has stepped up from S/S to buckets.) Al hoogie and Camo Jones were miles ahead. running in third for the final lap I knew the Hoogie boys were going to be there at the line and James piped me on the line by .019 of a second pushing me to 4th. The bike with the lower profile 105 rear was letting me hit the rev limiter 2/3 down the back straight so with no other options i went back to the pits and fitted a tooth bigger front sprocket.

Race 2: Not one of my brightest moments i binned on the warm up lap and with the bike in a bit of a mess i pushed it to the nearest flag point to watch the race. A lap and 1/2 in a S/S rider went down which red flagged the race, i rode the bike back to the pits and ripped what was left of the fairing off and sorted the bars out and made it back for the restart, i lost some mojo and was happy to finish 5th behind the three hoogies and camo.

Race 3: Still a little low on confidence in the rooted front slick i gridded and got a decent start only to see Al Hoogie on the CBR go down, I rode ok and finished 3rd behind Camo and James Hoogie.

The bike is now far from showroom condition but with the new front fitted i'm looking forward to KOR and seeing if i can go sub two minute! Anyone got a FXR fairing?

[timg]

Anyone got a FXR fairing? http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/fairing/auction-399571960.htm

[Kickaha]

Race 2: Not one of my brightest moments i binned on the warm up lap

I thought that bit needed highlighting:laugh:

[F5 Dave]

105 rear slick? New? When, 1995? Or am I missing something?

[Buddha#81]

105 rear slick? New? When, 1995? Or am I missing something?

Brand spanking new '99. was wrapped and stored corectly and is still nice and soft and sticky:shit: