Motorcyclist dies after hitting police car?

[Scuba_Steve]

Fucking over-exaggerated media reporting

"Motorcyclist collides with police car" (http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/5243213/Motorcyclist-collides-with-police-car)
"The scene after a scooter hit the back of a police car today."

It was a fucking scooter!!!:angry2: and obviously the usual sort of retard that rides them... if he can't see a cop car with full flashing lights, he kinda got what he deserved.

[Maha]

........somebody is still waiting for thier pizza...

[bogan]

Pisses me off that any motorist on the roads can miss seeing a stoppped cop car with their lights on. Doesn't worry me that scooter riders are considered motorcyclists, lots of us ride both anyway.

[Bald Eagle]

He's parked on the yellow line so it must be his fault. :violin:

[oneofsix]

He's parked on the yellow line so it must be his fault. :violin:

guess the yellow lines were there for a reason. You don't have to stop immediately it is up to you to chose a safe place to stop but the cops get a bit pissy about it if you don't stop straight away.

The thing about a scooter rider is did he even have a bike license or any bike experience or was he a car driver that had borrowed a scooter? most likely a regular rider sop how the F did he not see the flash bright lights? perhaps he thought it was a disco :shutup:

[mikeey01]

I'm confused.
How would a bike end up in the middle of the road, this is after hitting a car parked / pulled over hard on the left hand side of the road.

I mean apply a little logic / forces involved, wouldn't one end up in a different location than the middle of the road?

[Scuba_Steve]

Doesn't worry me that scooter riders are considered motorcyclists, lots of us ride both anyway.

It bothers me, it'd be like calling car drivers truckies, or pilots astronauts. They are not! but this headline is used to spin the article, people look at it "those bikers are dangerous, they keep hurting/killing themselves" ignoring the fact it was a scooter & probably operated by a car driver not a biker, it is misleading & just more ammo in the Govt's anti bike arsenal

[Scuba_Steve]

I'm confused, how would a bike end up in the middle of the road if it hit a car parked hard on the left hand side of the road?
I mean apply a little logic / forces involved wouldn't one end up in a different location than the middle of the road?

it's hard to see, but I think theres a dent on the drivers rear corner, so I'd say he hit the very edge of the corner & got spat out to the road

[wanpo]

I'm confused.
How would a bike end up in the middle of the road, this is after hitting a car parked / pulled over hard on the left hand side of the road.

I mean apply a little logic / forces involved, wouldn't one end up in a different location than the middle of the road?

I'm guessing caught it with his left leg/left side of the bike, can imagine this happening if he was trying to split between a car and the stopped cop car at the time of the crash.

[bogan]

It bothers me, it'd be like calling car drivers truckies, or pilots astronauts. They are not! but this headline is used to spin the article, people look at it "those bikers are dangerous, they keep hurting/killing themselves" ignoring the fact it was a scooter & probably operated by a car driver not a biker, it is misleading & just more ammo in the Govt's anti bike arsenal

I think it'd be more like calling ute/van drivers car drivers, or helicopterists pilots (and who would do such a thing :shit:). Unfortunately you have a point regarding tptb using scooter riders to mislead the stats, not through accident numbers though, but through the km stats.

[Banditbandit]

Bugga !!! Looks like a classic Honda stepthru' .. that's a sad ending for it - even if it is a scooter .. probably been running for 30 years .. and some dick chucks it into the back of a cop car ... on what looks like a bend with good visiblity .... Fuckwit ...

[chasio]

It bothers me, it'd be like calling car drivers truckies, or pilots astronauts. They are not! but this headline is used to spin the article, people look at it "those bikers are dangerous, they keep hurting/killing themselves" ignoring the fact it was a scooter & probably operated by a car driver not a biker, it is misleading & just more ammo in the Govt's anti bike arsenal

Could it be a Honda Cub? If so, I think they are technically a motorcycle...

[Edbear]

Unfortunately, a vehicle with two wheels inline and powered by an engine is a motorcycle by definition.

Also unfortunate is that, along with car/truck/bus/motorhome/ute/van drivers, those riding them are human and subject to the same human frailties, hence some will be competent and others won't be. Some will be awake and alert and others won't be...

The most unfortunate thing is that motorcyclists are more vulnerable to personal injury in an accident and per person, cost the country a lot more in care.

I doubt the Gummint is anti-bike, but they are certainly concerned at the cost in money, time, resources and pain caused by motorcycle accidents and some of the pollies are despairing at just how to get biker's to ride and act more responsibly. How do you balance personal choice with the fact that the consequences of death and injury directly impact on our already stretched health system?

If anyone has any ideas that are practical, I'm sure TPTB would like to hear them... Isn't that why they set up the bike study team? Whatsit called?

[oneofsix]

Isn't that why they set up the bike study team? Whatsit called?

Its called StoneY isn't it :shutup:

[YellowDog]

Pisses me off that any motorist on the roads can miss seeing a stoppped cop car with their lights on. Doesn't worry me that scooter riders are considered motorcyclists, lots of us ride both anyway.

I used to ride both, but never wore the same gear or took my helmet off anywhere near the scooter so that I couldn't be identified with it.

After an old dear backed over it, whilst it was parked behind her 4x4, she said "lucky it's only a scooter" I just laughed as I couldn't disagree with her sentiment.

How about saying "Scootercyclist" instead :rofl:

[nodrog]

FUCK, I better check if DMNTD is ok!

[maxlev]

The Independent Police Conduct Authority will probably deem that it is only unsafe to park on double yellow lines if vehicle is owned by a peasant.

[scumdog]

The Independent Police Conduct Authority will probably deem that it is only unsafe to park on double yellow lines if vehicle is owned by a peasant.

6 posts and he knows all the facts surrounding this incident, well done!...


(or is a beginner troll....nah)

[mctshirt]

Unfortunately, a vehicle with two wheels inline and powered by an engine is a motorcycle by definition.

Scooters don't count

[Hans]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/5243213/Motorcyclist-dies-after-hitting-police-car

Parked on double yellow lines? Clearly. Did he have the disco lights on? Who knows.

[wysper]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/5243213/Motorcyclist-dies-after-hitting-police-car

Parked on double yellow lines? Clearly. Did he have the disco lights on? Who knows.

Quote from the article you linked

"The officer's red and blue lights were operating at the time of the crash."

[Scuba_Steve]

Oh come-on Mods did you have to??? Can we get the title changed to "scooterist dies after hitting cop car", not motorcyclist...:facepalm: thats my original issue

[Madness]

A more detailed account here. (http://www.sunlive.co.nz/news/14049-...affic.html#vid) It looked like the old bugger was carrying a shit load of stuff in his scooter basket(s). Another negative for motorcycle crash statistics I'm afraid.

RIP old bugger.

[Hans]

Quote from the article you linked

"The officer's red and blue lights were operating at the time of the crash."

A) Threads got merged, cause I didn't think to look for another thread in R'n'R.

B) Says who? And besides, up to the cop to park in a safe place, the same way it is up to the cop to drive safely, even if his red and blue lights are on.

[Madness]

it's hard to see, but I think theres a dent on the drivers rear corner, so I'd say he hit the very edge of the corner & got spat out to the road

Correct. The dent on the drivers side of the rear bumper was clearly visible from the opposite side of the road, along with the smashed tail light. The scooter rider was following a van, who apparently swerved to avoid the patrol car at the last moment, The scooter rider didn't react as quickly, possibly partly due to his age?

There was a blanket strewn amongst the wreckage and at first glance it appeared to be covering a body but this wasn't the case. I was told by a retailer across the road that CPR was administered at the scene.

[scumdog]

A) Threads got merged, cause I didn't think to look for another thread in R'n'R.

B) Says who? And besides, up to the cop to park in a safe place, the same way it is up to the cop to drive safely, even if his red and blue lights are on.

And if he DID have the blue&reds going I wonder why he'd be stopped there with them going??:blink:

[MIXONE]

Everybody jumping to conclusions before the facts are known.How kb like.
RIP old scooter rider.

[Scuba_Steve]

And if he DID have the blue&reds going I wonder why he'd be stopped there with them going??:blink:

pfft to start an impromptu roadside rave party of-course, why else would he have them on??? :innocent:

[matdaymon]

Looks like the cop was pulled over in a cycle lane, hence the dotted yellow lines.
Poor old fella might have been following the alleged van too closely to give himself enough time to react, we all follow too close from one time to another.

Blaming the cop for stopping where he did while pulling over some numpty isn't exactly fair, when pulled over it is YOUR responsibility to pull over in a place that is safe to do so. The cop ain't driving your vehicle for you after all!

[DMNTD]

Everybody jumping to conclusions before the facts are known.How kb like.
RIP old scooter rider.

Pathetic eh? Who gives a fuck what the scooter has been described as. :facepalm:
Some poor old dude f'ed up and killed himself (it appears)...a family is grieving. What pisses me is that chances are I will know the old bloke or his family too.

Nah fuck it...good job eh? He deserved it :blink:

[davereid]

RIP to the elderly gentleman who died, and my sincere condolances to his family.

He came from an age when a motorcyclist was defined by being on two motorised wheels.

Now that appears to have changed, as a motorcyclist now is apparently defined by having a two-wheeler approved by twenty-plonk wankers on knee scraping kamasutras...

He certainly counts as a motorcyclist to me, and unlike most of the blowhards on KB he was still motorcycling at 83 years of age.

I hope to be doing the same.

He deserves a guard of honour from bikers, not a "who cares" its only a scooter thread.

But thats KB.

[Virago]

...if he can't see a cop car with full flashing lights, he kinda got what he deserved.

DB - is that you...?

[Stirts]

Very sad day for this family.

Oh and ....


if he can't see a cop car with full flashing lights, he kinda got what he deserved.

Really? You are kidding right? Pull your farking head in!!

[HenryDorsetCase]

Fucking over-exaggerated media reporting

"Motorcyclist collides with police car" (http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/5243213/Motorcyclist-collides-with-police-car)
"The scene after a scooter hit the back of a police car today."

It was a fucking scooter!!!:angry2: and obviously the usual sort of retard that rides them... if he can't see a cop car with full flashing lights, he kinda got what he deserved.

lighten up asshole.

the rider was 83 years old.

[HenryDorsetCase]

RIP to the elderly gentleman who died, and my sincere condolances to his family.

He came from an age when a motorcyclist was defined by being on two motorised wheels.

Now that appears to have changed, as a motorcyclist now is apparently defined by having a two-wheeler approved by twenty-plonk wankers on knee scraping kamasutras...

He certainly counts as a motorcyclist to me, and unlike most of the blowhards on KB he was still motorcycling at 83 years of age.

I hope to be doing the same.

He deserves a guard of honour from bikers, not a "who cares" its only a scooter thread.

But thats KB.

absolutely, and well put.

[DrunkenMistake]

An 83-year-old
I dont want to seem like a cunt to anyone who may be of significant age,
But I know my grandfather who is 72, should be shot for driving his car on the road, hes blind in one eye and all sorts of shit, anyway that aside, Im kind of glad the guy was on a scooter, imagine if he was in a car? may have been a hell of alot worse, the fact he failed to see the plod just amazes me

[scumdog]

RIP to the elderly gentleman who died, and my sincere condolances to his family.

He came from an age when a motorcyclist was defined by being on two motorised wheels.

Now that appears to have changed, as a motorcyclist now is apparently defined by having a two-wheeler approved by twenty-plonk wankers on knee scraping kamasutras...

He certainly counts as a motorcyclist to me, and unlike most of the blowhards on KB he was still motorcycling at 83 years of age.

I hope to be doing the same.

He deserves a guard of honour from bikers, not a "who cares" its only a scooter thread.

But thats KB.

Sums it up for me too.

I hope the 'he deserved it' types still think like that should a family member (well they wouldn't have friends, will they?) dies as tragically.

[Scuba_Steve]

Very sad day for this family.

Oh and ....

Really? You are kidding right? Pull your farking head in!!

umm no not really, a cop car with a disco going isn't exactly hidden, so while I didn't mean he deserved death, hitting it was punishment for stupidity. So don't get me wrong I'm not at anytime saying he deserved death as I suspect some of you think just if you miss a cop car with disco lights going you deserve to hit it.

[DMNTD]

umm no not really, a cop car with a disco going isn't exactly hidden, so while I didn't mean he deserved death hitting it was punishment for stupidity. So don't get me wrong I'm not at anytime saying he deserved death as I suspect some of you think just if you miss a cop car with disco lights going you deserve to hit it.


if he can't see a cop car with full flashing lights, he kinda got what he deserved.
Meant?

[Scuba_Steve]

if he can't see a cop car with full flashing lights, he kinda got what he deserved.
Meant?

it should be noted to when I started the thread, he was still alive & it was about the intentionally misleading use of the word "motorcycle" rather than "scooter" as it should have been.
As for the davereid followers I have seen no mention of wether he was a "biker" despite the KB assumptions, for all anyone knows he was an 72yr old car driver on cheaper transport.

[Virago]

...As for the davereid followers I have seen no mention of wether he was a "biker" despite the KB assumptions, for all anyone knows he was an 72yr old car driver on cheaper transport.

Fair enough. I can't stand people who make such assumptions...

[scumdog]

for all anyone knows he was a ??yr old car driver on cheaper transport.

Kinda describes a shit-load of KBers, the non-biker bastards, who do they think they are?:rolleyes:

[superman]

I dont want to seem like a cunt to anyone who may be of significant age,
But I know my grandfather who is 72, should be shot for driving his car on the road, hes blind in one eye and all sorts of shit, anyway that aside, Im kind of glad the guy was on a scooter, imagine if he was in a car? may have been a hell of alot worse, the fact he failed to see the plod just amazes me

When you hit 75 you must renew your license every 2-5 years with medical certificates and/or sit a road safety test if recommended by your doctor.

[DrunkenMistake]

When you hit 75 you must renew your license every 2-5 years with medical certificates and/or sit a road safety test if recommended by your doctor.

He wont get it again when he hits 75, but I have had to report him to police for the fact been he almost killed me by crossing into my lane on a blind corner, but they didnt do much about it

[Sable]

He was 83 and on a scooter. He probably pays someone to wipe his asshole, he could have paid for someone to drive him too. And I'm sorry but your average scooter rider is NOT a motorcyclist. "I have a scooter - What sort? - A Red One." Stupid old cunt shouldn't have been on the road. Sad that he died and all that but there's some fucking dumb shit out there.

[maxlev]

Nothing wrong with scooters, they are still motorcyles to me.

Out of the 19 bikes I have owned over 35 yrs, from 50 to 1100cc, the Honda C50 was one I had alot of fun on, certainly got a better look at the scenery.

No, I didn't ride the 50 on a car license, sat car license at age 49, yeah that's right, was a full time biker.

The old fella who died, might have owned bikes that todays riders would not have been able to start, let alone ride. RIP

[Sable]

Or he may have been riding a Chinese scooter which he couldn't name on a car license when he was mentally and physically unfit to drive.

[Virago]

Shame he died - we could have shot the bastard...

[Sable]

Shame he died - we could have shot the bastard...
I'm sure there were plenty of people who got stuck behind him thinking that..

[jaffaonajappa]

RIP to the elderly gentleman who died, and my sincere condolances to his family.

He came from an age when a motorcyclist was defined by being on two motorised wheels.

Now that appears to have changed, as a motorcyclist now is apparently defined by having a two-wheeler approved by twenty-plonk wankers on knee scraping kamasutras...

He certainly counts as a motorcyclist to me, and unlike most of the blowhards on KB he was still motorcycling at 83 years of age.

I hope to be doing the same.

He deserves a guard of honour from bikers, not a "who cares" its only a scooter thread.

But thats KB.


Good post.
Man, If I can still walk at 83, im going to be happy. If I can balance on two wheels - im gona be farken Stoked. Scooter or whatever....its motorised and its not a car. - one of 'us' was killed on the roads today, and a family is in mourning.

RIP Rider.

[DrunkenMistake]

Shame he died - we could have shot the bastard...

How old are you now Virago?




I kid I kid <3

[YellowDog]

Good post.
Man, If I can still walk at 83, im going to be happy. If I can balance on two wheels - im gona be farken Stoked. Scooter or whatever....its motorised and its not a car. - one of 'us' was killed on the roads today, and a family is in mourning.

RIP Rider.

Yep, I also feel for the poor old bugger's friends and family. He may have been a very fit and active 83 year old, but someone should have been helping him avoid making such hazardous journeys. He probably did the same journey regularly.

I am sure that the original post would not have been as damning if it was known that the old duffer was going to snuff it.

RIP

[gammaguy]

He was 83 and on a scooter. He probably pays someone to wipe his asshole, he could have paid for someone to drive him too. And I'm sorry but your average scooter rider is NOT a motorcyclist. "I have a scooter - What sort? - A Red One." Stupid old cunt shouldn't have been on the road. Sad that he died and all that but there's some fucking dumb shit out there.

which is what happens when public transport in many parts of NZ is almost a non option alternative.

its a proven medical fact when old folk lose their independence to get about they go downhill and die.Thats why doctors are reluctant to take away the car/bike/scooter keys.

dont laugh,cos one day it will be you.

[Kickaha]

" Stupid old cunt shouldn't have been on the road

Why not? because he crashed and died? do you apply that reasoning to every motorcycles who crashes and dies in a similar manner?


Sad that he died and all that but there's some fucking dumb shit out there.

A lot of it seems to be inside and posting on here at the moment

[Shaun]

Fucking over-exaggerated media reporting

"Motorcyclist collides with police car" (http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/5243213/Motorcyclist-collides-with-police-car)
"The scene after a scooter hit the back of a police car today."

It was a fucking scooter!!!:angry2: and obviously the usual sort of retard that rides them... if he can't see a cop car with full flashing lights, he kinda got what he deserved.


Hope NO ONE calls you a RETARD when you crash and DIE after making a MISTAKE no matter how dumb that mistake may be

Condollence to the Family of the accident man

[Shaun]

MODS, there is a LOT of very NASTY POSTS in this Thread, I would ask you to please remove it TOTALLY out of respect to the man and his family and human life

[Owl]

Poor old bugger!

I witnessed a similar accident outside work, though it involved a parked flatdeck truck and a GL145 (does that count as a motorcycle?).

Young fella came around the bend looking directly to his left and then slammed into the R/R corner of the flatdeck.:facepalm: It looked as if he'd cleared the rest of the truck, as he flew through the air and landing on the road.

Although he'd fucked up, I couldn't help but feel for him as he lay on the road moaning and with his leg pointing at a weird angle.:sick:

I still cringe when I see a similar vehicle parked in that spot.:blink:

[yungatart]

He was 83 and on a scooter. He probably pays someone to wipe his asshole, he could have paid for someone to drive him too. And I'm sorry but your average scooter rider is NOT a motorcyclist. "I have a scooter - What sort? - A Red One." Stupid old cunt shouldn't have been on the road. Sad that he died and all that but there's some fucking dumb shit out there.

Wow! Do you know this old fella? Or are you just making a shed load of assumptions?
Not every 80 year old is mentally and physicaly deficient.
My father in law (who is in his 80's) still competitively skis and beats the pants off many in their 20's.
We don't know why he hit the cop car, he may have had a heart attack/stroke/TIA or a momentary lapse of concentration.
You, sir, are an arse. I sincerely hope you never live to a ripe old age!

[oneofsix]

Wow! Do you know this old fella? Or are you just making a shed load of assumptions?
Not every 80 year old is mentally and physicaly deficient.
My father in law (who is in his 80's) still competitively skis and beats the pants off many in their 20's.
We don't know why he hit the cop car, he may have had a heart attack/stroke/TIA or a momentary lapse of concentration.
You, sir, are an arse. I sincerely hope you never live to a ripe old age!

:yes: well said. Add to the list of possible medical causes a whole raft of possible physical ones like the yellow lines, possible light conditions etc (refer to owl's post above for an example) and the comments made be people that knew and tried to save him and Sable's troll is just uncouth and rude. :girlfight:

[Maha]

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[scissorhands]

which is what happens when public transport in many parts of NZ is almost a non option alternative.

its a proven medical fact when old folk lose their independence to get about they go downhill and die.Thats why doctors are reluctant to take away the car/bike/scooter keys.

dont laugh,cos one day it will be you.

Meh, a double bind. Keep riding, keeping riding, keep riding, till when?

You are ageing year by year, increasing your risk and then

It all catches up with you and you have a crash.

Sad day for all, including the police officers and speeder getting ticketed.

Didnt look like a C50 cub, but a twist and go

[Str8 Jacket]

Fuck we have some nasty cunts on this site.

I hope that karma bites you back as hard as you attacked, then we can all laugh at you and know that you deserved it.

[allycatz]

So because I own a scooter I deserve to die....what a sad bunch

[Shaun]

The starter of this thread NEEDS TO CONTACT the MODS and get it DELETED -- SHow some respect and do not be a dam key board hero, who know;s, you may even re gain a small amount of respect from fellow bikers if you do this

[Scuba_Steve]

So because I own a scooter I deserve to die....what a sad bunch

Did anyone say that??? I have no problem for your scooter to die :shutup: :innocent:, But not you :no:


The starter of this thread NEEDS TO CONTACT the MODS and get it DELETED -- SHow some respect and do not be a dam key board hero, who know;s, you may even re gain a small amount of respect from fellow bikers if you do this

No offense but I'm glad your not a mod, maybee once we've done that we can see if we can get our Govt to censor the interwebs for us too :facepalm:
If ya don't like the thread, don't visit it!

[Maha]

There one or two comments on here that are callous, and like all previous threads of this nature, the one underlying fact has been ovelooked............yet again..

''Until the crash investigation is complete, it is impossible to comment further or speculate about how it occurred"

[HenryDorsetCase]

Kinda describes a shit-load of KBers, the non-biker bastards, who do they think they are?:rolleyes:

I'm only 69!

[HenryDorsetCase]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/139665-I-wanna-be-like-Reg-Scott.


Just saying

[Scuba_Steve]

I'm only 69!

good age :D


http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/139665-I-wanna-be-like-Reg-Scott.


Just saying

Now that's a biker! :yes:

[Spearfish]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/139665-I-wanna-be-like-Reg-Scott.


Just saying

We have plenty of Reg-Scotts types in NZ, you meet them from time to time and they don't seem to see anything remarkable about what they have done..interesting conversationalists though... once you break the ice.

[Sable]

which is what happens when public transport in many parts of NZ is almost a non option alternative.

its a proven medical fact when old folk lose their independence to get about they go downhill and die.Thats why doctors are reluctant to take away the car/bike/scooter keys.

dont laugh,cos one day it will be you.
So it's better that they're a menace to others and die on the road rather than in bed?


Why not? because he crashed and died? do you apply that reasoning to every motorcycles who crashes and dies in a similar manner?
A lot of it seems to be inside and posting on here at the moment
Your average scooter rider is NOT what I think of when I think of a motorcyclist. I like how the spin that's been put on this has sucked you in. If it said 'scooter rider' rather than motorcyclist I'm sure there'd be half the fuss.

Wow! Do you know this old fella? Or are you just making a shed load of assumptions?
Not every 80 year old is mentally and physicaly deficient.
My father in law (who is in his 80's) still competitively skis and beats the pants off many in their 20's.
We don't know why he hit the cop car, he may have had a heart attack/stroke/TIA or a momentary lapse of concentration.
You, sir, are an arse. I sincerely hope you never live to a ripe old age!
Good for your father in law. He's the exception. If he was liable to have a stroke or couldn't pay attention to a damn police car someone should have stopped him driving and saved his life.


:yes: well said. Add to the list of possible medical causes a whole raft of possible physical ones like the yellow lines, possible light conditions etc (refer to owl's post above for an example) and the comments made be people that knew and tried to save him and Sable's troll is just uncouth and rude. :girlfight:
No troll sunshine.

[yungatart]

So it's better that they're a menace to others and die on the road rather than in bed?
Life is for living...


Your average scooter rider is NOT what I think of when I think of a motorcyclist. I like how the spin that's been put on this has sucked you in. If it said 'scooter rider' rather than motorcyclist I'm sure there'd be half the fuss.

I doubt you think at all...


Good for your father in law. He's the exception. If he was liable to have a stroke or couldn't pay attention to a damn police car someone should have stopped him driving and saved his life.
No, he is not...open your eyes and your mind!
There are plenty around like him...you are just too blind to see.

[scumdog]

Your average scooter rider is NOT what I think of when I think of a motorcyclist. .

Why??:confused::wait:

[Woodman]

Sable you and all the others on here who are being bloody asses to this guy are dickheads.

So the guy isn't a motorcyclist cos he rides a scooter????? How do you know he hasn't had a lifetime on bikes? How do you know he hasn't toured the world on one,raced one, taught his kids and grandkids how to ride one?

Cockheads.

[Sable]

How do you know he has?

[Virago]

How do you know he has?

So he's guilty until proven innocent...?

[tri boy]

I travelled through India in 97 with a 72 yr old called Doug Sunderland. (google his life on bikes).
This year, he is attempting to lap Australia again.
I think that any old dude on two wheels is a fucking legend.

R.I.P old timer.

[scumdog]

How do you know he has?

He doesn't

Do you know he hasn't though?

Troll.:bleh:

[Toaster]

Fuck we have some nasty cunts on this site.

Yeah, I hate it when they don't wash their bits.

[davereid]

Your average scooter rider is NOT what I think of when I think of a motorcyclist

That would appear to be your loss.

Making a judgment based on your opinion of the validity of a motorcyclists bike tells us much more about you, than about the biker.

He was 83, riding a motorcycle in the middle of winter.

Most of those questioning his claim on being a motorcyclist took the bus or the car to work today, as it might rain or get cold.

Tell me Sable.

Do you ride in the rain ? Or do you ride on sunny days, revving your engine at the lights and telling everyone you have trapped in a corner how fast you are ?

[Scuba_Steve]

Why??:confused::wait:

why??? because no one does, if you hear motorcycle you think R, GN, GSX, VFR, etc maybee at a stretch Harley:shutup:. You don't think Vespa, Joker you think them when someone says scooter. Simple as that really.

[Toaster]

And if he DID have the blue&reds going I wonder why he'd be stopped there with them going??:blink:

Good call. I am amazed someone had not tried to bash the police and blame them earlier, as is usually the norm around these parts.

The poster you replied to needs to think a little more as to WHY emergency vehicle have WARNING lights.

[Sable]

That would appear to be your loss.

Making a judgment based on your opinion of the validity of a motorcyclists bike tells us much more about you, than about the biker.

He was 83, riding a motorcycle in the middle of winter.

Most of those questioning his claim on being a motorcyclist took the bus or the car to work today, as it might rain or get cold.

Tell me Sable.

Do you ride in the rain ? Or do you ride on sunny days, revving your engine at the lights and telling everyone you have trapped in a corner how fast you are ?
My motorcycles are my only form of motorized transport :yes:. How about you?

[yungatart]

My motorcycles are my only form of motorized transport :yes:. How about you?

So? It doesn't make you a 'better' person though does it?

[davereid]

My motorcycles are my only form of motorized transport :yes:. How about you?

Well, I have done 48,000 km on my scooter. And its still in daily use.

[Spearfish]

Scooters are just another subgroup with more subgroups within, including the odd groupies like any other motorcycle group with subgroups and including all their groupies.

All linked by risk and expense and a grin full of dead bugs....

[HenryDorsetCase]

Good to know I'm not a motorcyclist any more since I have a scooter as well.

Scooters are a blast, all you haters should get one. they're hilarious.

Bit of mental re-calibration required riding my scooter home on Wednesday after test riding a new Speed Triple.........

[Madness]

Last week I thought Sable was a cock and told him so. This week I'm afraid that the term cock is actually complimentary to him and to be honest if I came across him strewn across the road engulfed in fire I doubt I'd bother to piss on him to put it out.

You are a supreme fucktard Sable. Time to grow up a little & show some respect to others; motorcyclists, sccoter riders & other human beings in general.

[shafty]

On "Stuff" today.....

*An elderly man also died in a scooter crash in Tauranga this week, however, indications suggest the accident may have been caused by medical reasons, and the crash has not been added to the official road toll.

[Str8 Jacket]

On "Stuff" today.....

*An elderly man also died in a scooter crash in Tauranga this week, however, indications suggest the accident may have been caused by medical reasons, and the crash has not been added to the official road toll.

Oh look, some 'facts'. Looks like it could've happened to anyone one of us.

[Sable]

On "Stuff" today.....

*An elderly man also died in a scooter crash in Tauranga this week, however, indications suggest the accident may have been caused by medical reasons, and the crash has not been added to the official road toll.
Kind of proves my point aye

Oh look, some 'facts'. Looks like it could've happened to anyone one of us.
If you're more unhealthy because of your advanced age, sure

[fokky]

RIP to the elderly gentleman who died, and my sincere condolances to his family.

He came from an age when a motorcyclist was defined by being on two motorised wheels.

He certainly counts as a motorcyclist to me, and unlike most of the blowhards on KB he was still motorcycling at 83 years of age.

I hope to be doing the same.

He deserves a guard of honour from bikers, not a "who cares" its only a scooter thread.

But thats KB.

Well said.Fk some of you guys are arseholes to the core.A man died and you use it as a tool to be "right'' one more time,well done cock boys.

[Genie]

Fucking over-exaggerated media reporting

"Motorcyclist collides with police car" (http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/5243213/Motorcyclist-collides-with-police-car)
"The scene after a scooter hit the back of a police car today."

It was a fucking scooter!!!:angry2: and obviously the usual sort of retard that rides them... if he can't see a cop car with full flashing lights, he kinda got what he deserved.

How dare you?

Who are you to make this kind of comment?

A husband/father/brother/son/uncle/friend died and this is how you respond?

[TOTO]

FUCK, I better check if DMNTD is ok!

he is fine.
Article said the rider was 83, DMNTD is in his 90s