MotoGP Sachsenring [Archive] - Kiwi Biker forums

DidJit

15th July 2011, 11:07

Motomatters' roundup (http://motomatters.com/analysis/2011/07/14/2011_sachsenring_motogp_thursday_roundup.html) for those interested.

I hope Rossi is able to make some real progress on the tempestuous Ducati beast. It sounds as if he is getting a tad weary solving one issue and discovering three more every time he hops on. Watching Stoner drift (http://youtu.be/0Y6PT33SMHQ) the thing makes me wonder if Valentino could perhaps try a similar technique in the short term until Filippo Preziosi drops that carbon fibre front end. I'm sure it's not as simple as that — I would surmise there must be quite a bit involved in adjusting one's riding style — and that still wouldn't solve the apparent lack of feeling from the front. In any case, I hope Rossi is able to get some satisfying results for himself this race.

In stark contrast, the Honda camp sound positively ebullient.

racefactory

15th July 2011, 13:02

I think Rossi might take this one!

Crasherfromwayback

15th July 2011, 13:11

I think Rossi might take this one.

THAT is fucking funny!

White trash

15th July 2011, 13:20

I think Rossi might take this one.

Bwahahahahaha, excellent!

nodrog

15th July 2011, 13:21

I think Rossi might take this one.

I think Rossi has taken more than one.

Wingnut

15th July 2011, 13:59

Yip - And Elias will podium..............:shutup:

saul

15th July 2011, 14:00

I think Rossi has taken more than one.

Now that is funny:yes::love:

Crasherfromwayback

15th July 2011, 15:08

1: Stoner

2: Lorenzo

3: Spies

4: Simo

5: Dovi

codgyoleracer

15th July 2011, 15:14

1: Stoner

2: Lorenzo

3: Spies

4: Simo

5: Dovi

I see my pick for Lorenzo overall - still has a shot ?

Crasherfromwayback

15th July 2011, 15:18

I see my pick for Lorenzo overall - still has a shot ?

I reckon he's the only guy capable of taking it to Stoner week in week out for sure.

cmoore

15th July 2011, 19:44

Lorenzo is super confident after the last race...and maybe they have found something for the yamaha....Seems the Honda and Yamaha suit different tracks....Im hoping Lorenzo keeps taking points and he crashes less then Stoner....

Crasherfromwayback

15th July 2011, 20:00

Shaun

15th July 2011, 20:05

I reckon he's the only guy capable of taking it to Stoner week in week out for sure.

Your own post awnsers your question realy

Shaun

15th July 2011, 20:06

How many races has Stoner Crashed out of this season?

see post 13

cmoore

15th July 2011, 20:33

true...but i guess history is not on his side....2006, 2008, 2009, 2010....all titles lost(i.e he could have won?) mostly due to crashes.....

Shaun

15th July 2011, 20:39

true...but i guess history is not on his side....2006, 2008, 2009, 2010....all titles lost(i.e he could have won?) mostly due to crashes.....

Just proves SHIT HAPENS EH, some say that ( Arseholes cause it):shit:

cmoore

15th July 2011, 20:46

anyway....lets hope we get a dry race, at least the championship is still wide open, which can only create good racing.

Shaun

15th July 2011, 20:50

anyway....lets hope we get a dry race, at least the championship is still wide open, which can only create good racing.

for sure, it,s bloody healthy and a long way from over

BMWST?

15th July 2011, 21:08

i dont know what the weather or other factors were in play but at one time with about 20 minutes to go stoner was down in 7th,and Hayden And Abraham were way up there,right a the last minute Stoner and Dovi did some quick Laps.Lorenzo was in 2nd for most of the session

1SIMONCELLI M.San Carlo Honda Gresini1:22.823
2STONER C.Repsol Honda Team+0.181
3LORENZO J.Yamaha Factory Racing+0.223
4HAYDEN N.Ducati Team+0.382
5DOVIZIOSO A.Repsol Honda Team+0.532
6ABRAHAM K.Cardion AB Motoracing+0.593
7BARBERA H.Mapfre Aspar Team MotoGP+0.610
8DE PUNIET R.Pramac Racing Team+0.711
9SPIES B.Yamaha Factory Racing+0.735
10EDWARDS C.Monster Yamaha Tech 3+0.771
11PEDROSA D.Repsol Honda Team+0.781
12BAUTISTA A.Rizla Suzuki MotoGP+1.166
13CRUTCHLOW C.Monster Yamaha Tech 3+1.339

i think Rossi has crashed,and Stoner had a big higside on an out lap

**edit lots of crashers...its quite cold air temp 16 track 21**

BMWST?

15th July 2011, 21:13

true...but i guess history is not on his side....2006, 2008, 2009, 2010....all titles lost(i.e he could have won?) mostly due to crashes.....

probably true but he was riding on the limit,on a bike that has proved to be very difficult to ride.

Shaun

15th July 2011, 21:20

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/171240/1/crash-packed_start_to_sachsenring.html

The Aus will will winge about pain

BMWST?

15th July 2011, 21:35

The Aus will be fast and probably whinge about something

fixt for ya there Shaun

Shaun

15th July 2011, 21:47

fixt for ya there Shaun

cheers buddy, but sit back and weight for the AUSSIE GOBBLER Crasher to get here:facepalm:

ecko_nzed

15th July 2011, 22:43

1) Stoner
2) Dovi
3)Marco (get a perm) Simoncelli

Shaun

16th July 2011, 08:33

Stoner will be a bit slower at all the remaining tracks I reckon, one to many crashes now, Lorenzo to WIN the champs again, and SIMO to finish the season in 3rd

Crasherfromwayback

16th July 2011, 09:14

Stoner will be a bit slower at all the remaining tracks I reckon, one to many crashes now, Lorenzo to WIN the champs again, and SIMO to finish the season in 3rd

Yeah...Stoner never goes well at fast tracks like Phillip Island eh! And Simo 3rd in the championship? WTF have you been smoking? His cock?

Shaun

16th July 2011, 09:40

Yeah...Stoner never goes well at fast tracks like Phillip Island eh! And Simo 3rd in the championship? WTF have you been smoking? His cock?

haha love the way you respond dude

Crasherfromwayback

16th July 2011, 10:04

haha love the way you respond dude

Thought you might! Gotta keep myself amused somehow mate!

Shaun

16th July 2011, 10:09

Thought you might! Gotta keep myself amused somehow mate!

simo is only 50 points behind 3rd at the moment. A couple of wins out of the remaining 9 rounds and a couple of 5th places for Dovi takes care of my predictions dude! And I reckon Simo has learned now

Crasherfromwayback

16th July 2011, 10:17

simo is only 50 points behind 3rd at the moment. A couple of wins out of the remaining 9 rounds and a couple of 5th places for Dovi takes care of my predictions dude! And I reckon Simo has learned now

While that might be the case...the guys in front of him are far more consistant than he is.

BMWST?

16th July 2011, 10:20

simo is only 50 points behind 3rd at the moment. A couple of wins out of the remaining 9 rounds and a couple of 5th places for Dovi takes care of my predictions dude! And I reckon Simo has learned now

i think your enthusiam is overcoming reality a win is worth 25 points whilst 5th gets 11,so there is only 28 points gain over that scenario

Shaun

16th July 2011, 10:24

i think your enthusiam is overcoming reality a win is worth 25 points whilst 5th gets 11,so there is only 28 points gain over that scenario

mmmm so 9x 11= Dovi is a steady racer, SIMO is gunna take over Rossi's old roll

Crasherfromwayback

16th July 2011, 10:26

mmmm so 9x 11= Dovi is a steady racer, SIMO is gunna take over Rossi's old roll

Rossi's position points wise is extremely flattering.

Shaun

16th July 2011, 10:26

While that might be the case...the guys in front of him are far more consistant than he is.

you of all people Know that it's easy to teach a Fast rider not to crash, look how he responded last round, safe, fast and finished well

Shaun

16th July 2011, 10:28

Rossi's position points wise is extremely flattering.

That it IS

To finish 1st, 1st you must finish eh

eelracing

16th July 2011, 10:35

cheers buddy, but sit back and weight for the AUSSIE GOBBLER Crasher to get here:facepalm:

I'ts not sporting to go fishing with handgrenades Shaun.

But it sure adds spice to a hearty feed.

BMWST?

16th July 2011, 10:36

mmmm so 9x 11= Dovi is a steady racer, SIMO is gunna take over Rossi's old roll

simo is nearly 70 POINTS behind third 119 vs 50

Shaun

16th July 2011, 10:41

I'ts not sporting to go fishing with handgrenades Shaun.

But it sure adds spice to a hearty feed.

anything to get Pete going man:woohoo:

Shaun

16th July 2011, 10:42

simo is nearly 70 POINTS behind third 119 vs 50

YES, but still possible as you can obviously do maths better than me haha

DidJit

16th July 2011, 10:59

Bridgestones (http://superbikeplanet.com/2011/Jul/110715ryderbotes.htm) + cold weather (http://motomatters.com/analysis/2011/07/15/2011_sachsenring_motogp_friday_roundup_t.html) = crashes (http://www.gpone.com/index.php/en/201107154309/Sic-1-scivolano-Stoner-Rossi-e-Pedrosa.html) in MotoGP this year.

Crasherfromwayback

16th July 2011, 11:01

BMWST?

16th July 2011, 11:26

YES, but still possible as you can obviously do maths better than me haha

its possible i guess but i would put money on Dovi at this point

eelracing

16th July 2011, 11:36

Yeah...goes to show you that modern electronics aren't really the be all and end all eh?

Can't agree Pete,all electronics are doing is making these bikes easier to ride for lesser talents.

No electrical help is going to save a front-end washout.(except for an outrigger of somesort)god help us if that day ever comes about.

The real culprit is the one tyre rule...in one of Didjits links is mention of the fact that Bridgestone brought along tyres from malaysian tests in sepang???WTF tropical heat V's european conditions.Surely thay are taking the piss.

Bet you this shit would'nt be happening if another tyre supplier was present.

It's just another cost saving in the name of "progress" along with moto2/3 that is resulting in Dorna and it's minions turning the name of "GP's" into a joke.

Crasherfromwayback

16th July 2011, 12:04

Can't agree Pete,all electronics are doing is making these bikes easier to ride for lesser talents.

No electrical help is going to save a front-end washout.(except for an outrigger of somesort)god help us if that day ever comes about.

.

Think you missed my point.

That's exactly my point...electronics have made racing boring, and the riders can still very easily fuck themselves up on cold tyres etc.

BMWST?

16th July 2011, 12:15

Think you missed my point.

That's exactly my point...electronics have made racing boring, and the riders can still very easily fuck themselves up on cold tyres etc.

i think the electronic even things out a bit,but its the same as other times,only the top 1 2 or 3 riders can actually ride on the edge.If you rely on the elctronics totally they seem to be slower than the guys who can ride right at the edge of where the electronics take over...

Crasherfromwayback

16th July 2011, 12:21

Shaun

16th July 2011, 12:42

i think the electronic even things out a bit,but its the same as other times,only the top 1 2 or 3 riders can actually ride on the edge.If you rely on the elctronics totally they seem to be slower than the guys who can ride right at the edge of where the electronics take over...

Sorry to disagree, but the electronics are built by different companies, and the teams have Factory and privateer level units so they are not a leveling tool at all.

Agree with part 2 though

BMWST?

16th July 2011, 14:01

Sorry to disagree, but the electronics are built by different companies, and the teams have Factory and privateer level units so they are not a leveling tool at all.

Agree with part 2 though

bullshit you aint sorry!The elctronics may be made by different people but they trying to do the same thing...

eelracing

16th July 2011, 15:08

Think you missed my point.

That's exactly my point...electronics have made racing boring..

Hurhur come now Crasher,for a purist thats a pretty poor effort.This season has had everything you could ask for and the promise of better to come.

Cold tyres have been an issue since Noah wore shorts.Freddie was a master and Stoner aint no slouch either on them,but when top guys are crashing then there's a rat in the hen house.And the smell is coming from the corpse that Dorna are selling us.

Oh yeah and the Sachenring is a crap track anyway.

Shaun

16th July 2011, 15:11

bullshit you aint sorry!The elctronics may be made by different people but they trying to do the same thing...

haha The KEY word in this post from you is "TRYING" they are not the same on all bikes

PS Me trying to be polite just does NOT work eh

Crasherfromwayback

16th July 2011, 15:18

Hurhur come now Crasher,for a purist thats a pretty poor effort.This season has had everything you could ask for and the promise of better to come.

Cold tyres have been an issue since Noah wore shorts.Freddie was a master and Stoner aint no slouch either on them,but when top guys are crashing then there's a rat in the hen house.And the smell is coming from the corpse that Dorna are selling us.

Oh yeah and the Sachenring is a crap track anyway.

Yeah sorry, I was hell busy at work today. Last time I saw them having tyre temp issues like this, was the last year Michelin were involved! Someone will get REAL hurt soon if they don't sort it out.

Shaun

16th July 2011, 16:57

Yeah sorry, I was hell busy at work today. Last time I saw them having tyre temp issues like this, was the last year Michelin were involved! Someone will get REAL hurt soon if they don't sort it out.

Bout time you earned your salary:facepalm:

eelracing

16th July 2011, 17:01

Bout time you earned your salary:facepalm:

Aaaaahaaahaaahahahahahahahah...you could say that about most KB posters.

White trash

17th July 2011, 08:14

Rossi's really coming good......

racefactory

17th July 2011, 08:54

I think Rossi might take this one!

I think he still might have a chance.

Robert Taylor

17th July 2011, 09:07

White trash

17th July 2011, 09:09

Simoncelli to take Stoner out.

And ruin any hope he ever has of ever sitting on a factory Honda.......

Rcktfsh

17th July 2011, 09:20

And ruin any hope he ever has of ever sitting on a factory Honda.......

???? He's already sitting on a factory Honda.

Shaun

17th July 2011, 09:32

???? He's already sitting on a factory Honda.

BINGO, Just not getting the Factory salary and HE WILL

gav

17th July 2011, 09:53

Rossi's really coming good......
Interesting that Stoner was P2 in QP last year on a bike that had none of the Rossi input and changes, and was 1.5 secs faster ... :blink:

BMWST?

17th July 2011, 10:39

simo of the fornt row,much warmer than earlier sessions

1 27 Casey STONER AUS Repsol Honda Team Honda 283.4 1'21.681
2 26 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 283.8 1'21.933 0.252 / 0.252
3 1 Jorge LORENZO SPA Yamaha Factory Racing Yamaha 279.2 1'21.944 0.263 / 0.011
4 58 Marco SIMONCELLI ITA San Carlo Honda Gresini Honda 279.2 1'21.954 0.273 / 0.010
5 11 Ben SPIES USA Yamaha Factory Racing Yamaha 275.6 1'22.056 0.375 / 0.102
6 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO ITA Repsol Honda Team Honda 283.1 1'22.157 0.476 / 0.101
7 5 Colin EDWARDS USA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 276.6 1'22.368 0.687 / 0.211
8 69 Nicky HAYDEN USA Ducati Team Ducati 277.6 1'22.388 0.707 / 0.020
9 14 Randy DE PUNIET FRA Pramac Racing Team Ducati 274.8 1'22.503 0.822 / 0.115
10 19 Alvaro BAUTISTA SPA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP Suzuki 279.9 1'22.604 0.923 / 0.101
11 8 Hector BARBERA SPA Mapfre Aspar Team MotoGP Ducati 279.5 1'22.676 0.995 / 0.072
12 35 Cal CRUTCHLOW GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 274.5 1'22.676 0.995
13 17 Karel ABRAHAM CZE Cardion AB Motoracing Ducati 273.7 1'23.164 1.483 / 0.488
14 24 Toni ELIAS SPA LCR Honda MotoGP Honda 280.2 1'23.201 1.520 / 0.037
15 7 Hiroshi AOYAMA JPN San Carlo Honda Gresini Honda 280.2 1'23.248 1.567 / 0.047
16 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Ducati Team Ducati 279.1 1'23.320 1.639 / 0.072
17 50 Sylvain GUINTOLI FRA Pramac Racing Team Ducati 273.8 1'24.707 3.026 / 1.387
Weather Conditions:
| Track Condition: Dry| Air: 25º| Humidity: 25%| Ground: 42º

Robert Taylor

17th July 2011, 10:51

And ruin any hope he ever has of ever sitting on a factory Honda.......

Simoncelli is 3 things, very fast, very entertaining, also stupid. Also easy to spot in a group photo shoot!!

Crasherfromwayback

17th July 2011, 11:12

Simoncelli is 3 things, very fast, very entertaining, also stupid. Also easy to spot in a group photo shoot!!

That's four things!:p

pritch

17th July 2011, 15:54

That's four things!:p

And that's right!

He's got me worried now, but I guess if he adds my next bill like that I'll be happy? :whistle:

Robert Taylor

17th July 2011, 15:57

And that's right!

He's got me worried now, but I guess if he adds my next bill like that I'll be happy? :whistle:

No the addition will be correct plus a surcharge if you dont like Lorenzo! But Ill let you off seeing as you're a Vietnam vet and likely killed a few commies....

Shaun

17th July 2011, 17:36

That's four things!:p

you always add the tax last, fact of life

cmoore

17th July 2011, 18:03

Honda 1,2 3???......I don't think so......Pedrosa is much better but does he have the strength to go the whole race?.....Simplechilli?.....always a chance......Spies.....always a chance......so....Lorenzo will be first to the first corner.....stoner second.....the rest will fight after that...with Lorenzo wining from Stoner and then Spies/Chilli.....well here is hoping anyway.....go Yamaha!!

gav

18th July 2011, 00:46

WOW!! What a race! Best of the year so far? Great dicing everywhere!

DidJit

18th July 2011, 00:49

'Twas indeed a great race. :yes:

LBD

18th July 2011, 01:04

And Simoncelli actually finished!!!!!!

Crasherfromwayback

18th July 2011, 01:19

WOW!! What a race! Best of the year so far? Great dicing everywhere!

Fuck yeah!

Shaun

18th July 2011, 07:56

Even the Suzuki had a good finish, miles away yea, but good

carbonhed

18th July 2011, 09:53

Fuck! What a wonderful race. Hats off to Dani and all of the podium guys and also Bautista... what a terrific effort.

Crasherfromwayback

18th July 2011, 10:04

Fuck! What a wonderful race. Hats off to Dani and all of the podium guys and also Bautista... what a terrific effort.

Bautista is my pic for ride of the day!

carbonhed

18th July 2011, 10:30

Bautista is my pic for ride of the day!

I'll have a smile on my face all day thinking about how he fought with and beat Hayden and Rossi... that's got to be good for your confidence. He was being terribly polite with Rossi at the beginning of the scrap... not so much at the end.

Crasherfromwayback

18th July 2011, 10:33

Hopefully we'll see more of him towards the pointy end now

discodan

18th July 2011, 12:06

awwwww what the hell happened?!

How did that little softy Pedrosa beat everyone? I just don't understand how some little (injured) wuss who keeps panicking and running into people when they pass him on brakes could possibly beat all those top riders in a real scrap when none of them crashed and were all on the pace!

:killingme

Crasherfromwayback

18th July 2011, 12:20

RobGassit

18th July 2011, 13:33

Jeez! Rossi nearly beat Hayden. Phaarkin Legend!:facepalm:

Crasherfromwayback

18th July 2011, 13:52

I just don't understand how some little (injured) wuss who keeps panicking and running into people when they pass him on brakes could possibly beat all those top riders in a real scrap when none of them crashed and were all on the pace!

:killingme

While I'm at it...makes you ask why he didn't try and ride for points when he was beaten up really. Could've still kept himself in the hunt for the title. That's right...he is a bit of a wuss.

rachprice

18th July 2011, 14:55

Such a good race!!!

Lorenzo deserved that second, played his cards right and pounced on stoner

Hats off to pedrosa....pity he is so inconsistent
How bout spies coming from way back all of a sudden near the end?

But yeah definitely awesome for bautista....

carbonhed

18th July 2011, 15:05

How bout spies coming from way back all of a sudden near the end?

I checked the lap times to see what had been happening there and it was more that Dovi and Simoncelli were going backwards whilst beating each other up. Spies lap times were super consistent 1:22:4 to 1:22:5 but the comedy duo started bloating out. The front three were still disappearing into the distance.

Crasherfromwayback

18th July 2011, 15:06

Bring on Laguna Seca I say!!!

discodan

18th July 2011, 15:12

While I'm at it...makes you ask why he didn't try and ride for points when he was beaten up really. Could've still kept himself in the hunt for the title. That's right...he is a bit of a wuss.

Haha, I knew you wouldn't be able to resist a jab at him.

Crasherfromwayback

18th July 2011, 15:16

Haha, I knew you wouldn't be able to resist a jab at him.

Was only to wind you up! I actually wish he had ridden to get a few points, as his season could've been so very different. Becusae when he's on...he's pretty to watch!

Robert Taylor

18th July 2011, 21:00

When the stars are aligned, he's near impossible to beat!

Correct, and hes got more talent than all those who take the p..s out of him combined. If a Hondas going to win anyone but Stoner. Lorenzo showed why he is the champ!

Crasherfromwayback

18th July 2011, 22:37

Correct, and hes got more talent than all those who take the p..s out of him combined. If a Hondas going to win anyone but Stoner. Lorenzo showed why he is the champ!

Yep. Lorenzo did to Stoner what Stoner did to Rossi at the track last year!

bogan

18th July 2011, 22:39

Yep. Lorenzo did to Stoner what Stoner did to Rossi at the track last year!

Bloody good racing that was, no bastard fell off, and big battles for the top spots. Hope it's as good at laguna :yes:

NZsarge

19th July 2011, 15:28

Bring on Laguna Seca I say!!!

Yeah got my finger's crossed for Spies..

Crasherfromwayback

19th July 2011, 15:31

Yeah got my finger's crossed for Spies..

Yeah be great to see him win there. Hell, he may even smile!

NZsarge

19th July 2011, 15:42

Yeah be great to see him win there. Hell, he may even smile!

He's a bit like Stoner and Pedrosa in that respect but somehow he comes off a lot less self important...

Hoping for good results for Edwards and Hayden too.

Crasherfromwayback

19th July 2011, 15:54

He's a bit like Stoner and Pedrosa in that respect but somehow he comes off a lot less self important...

Hoping for good results for Edwards and Hayden too.

Stoner has actually been smiling this season...

Shaun

19th July 2011, 17:08

Stoner has actually been smiling this season...

Thats only because he is a STONER:sunny:

Crasherfromwayback

19th July 2011, 17:12

Laguna Seca.

1= Stoner

2= Spies

3= Lorenzo

4 = Simo

5= Hayden

It's too tough a circuit for Pedro's shoulder with the corkscrew etc...

carbonhed

19th July 2011, 17:36

He's a bit like Stoner and Pedrosa in that respect but somehow he comes off a lot less self important...

Hoping for good results for Edwards and Hayden too.

Pedro's in a class waaaay all of his own though. In the press conference after winning on Sunday he looked like somebody had just shot his dog... how the interviewer resisted the temptation to grab him by the throat and slap him a time or two beats me.

Crasherfromwayback

19th July 2011, 17:45

Pedro's in a class waaaay all of his own though. In the press conference after winning on Sunday he looked like somebody had just shot his dog... how the interviewer resisted the temptation to grab him by the throat and slap him a time or two beats me.

For me...the refusal to shake Simo's hand was gayer than gay. So Spies has now won a GP...it's your boys turn!!

carbonhed

19th July 2011, 19:18

So Spies has now won a GP...it's your boys turn!!

I was actually away on holiday in France when that happened and then Racing Underground was kaput for a while so I've missed a chunk of the season.

From what I've read a whole solar system of planets lined up for him that day but a win is a win is a win and good on him too. He'll be really hyped for Laguna and if he gets between Stoner and Lorenzo then he'll have made another huge step up.

I had Simoncelli on the podium behind Stoner and Lorenzo at the Sachsenring and he'd have been fucking close but for that Spanish midget :angry: One can only imagine the carnage he'd have caused at the last corner if there'd been a podium at stake :laugh:

Shaun

19th July 2011, 21:05

Pedro's in a class waaaay all of his own though. In the press conference after winning on Sunday he looked like somebody had just shot his dog... how the interviewer resisted the temptation to grab him by the throat and slap him a time or two beats me.

The comedy of it all is great eh:yes: and even the LOOSER is blindingly fast BARSTEWARDS

slowpoke

19th July 2011, 21:53

While I'm at it...makes you ask why he didn't try and ride for points when he was beaten up really. Could've still kept himself in the hunt for the title. That's right...he is a bit of a wuss.

Is now a good time to bring up Stoner's lil' tummy bug holiday mid-season.....? :whistle:

Crasherfromwayback

19th July 2011, 22:01

Is now a good time to bring up Stoner's lil' tummy bug holiday mid-season.....? :whistle:

Been a whole lot written about that. But I reckon anyone that saw him comming in after those races would've seen he was a fucking ill man. He claimed he was that weak riding that he was a danger to the other riders (have you ever suffered arm pump etc yourself), that it was better he pull out.

He came back healthier and won...what...three out of the last 5 races? But you're abviously forgetting that he's also raced with a wrist that was still fucked, and kept riding.

Besides...Stoner has won a championship...Pedrosa never has. How's that sit with you?

Kevin S thinks Stoner was wrong to sit out a few races when he was crook...yet quit a few races into a season. So who is the biggest pussy out of those two?

eelracing

19th July 2011, 22:14

You still bite like a bitch Crasher haha...will you guys stop picking on him:corn:

eelracing

19th July 2011, 22:21

Laguna Seca.

1= Pedrosa

2= lorenzo

3= Spies

4 = Simo

5= Stoner

It's too tough a circuit for Caseys wobbly lower lip with the corkscrew & Lorenzo etc...

Fixed that for ya man.

Shaun

19th July 2011, 22:35

imdying

20th July 2011, 12:40

How about the 125s?! Now that was a race!

Crasherfromwayback

20th July 2011, 12:45

You still bite like a bitch Crasher haha...will you guys stop picking on him:corn:

I enjoy it. It sharpens my teeth!

Cleve

20th July 2011, 21:08

I was actually away on holiday in France when that happened and then Racing Underground was kaput for a while so I've missed a chunk of the season.

Racing Underground has gone for good but some of that team have set up a new site. https://www.racingfor.me

While I am not a Pedrosa fan - he is a talent and I think not getting enough credit for how tough he is. On numerous occasions he has ridden hurt and injured. The not shaking Simo's hand was a bit naff - but in his opinion Simo had ruined Pedrosa's best chance for a MotoGP World Championship. Look at his results prior to Le Mans.
Qatar 3rd, Jerez 2nd, Portugal 1st, Le Mans taken out and broken collar bone.
Then first race back nearly fully fit (he did come back a bit too early and ride for points in Mugello) Germany 1st again...I'd be pretty fucked off.

carbonhed

21st July 2011, 17:29

Racing Underground has gone for good but some of that team have set up a new site. https://www.racingfor.me

While I am not a Pedrosa fan - he is a talent and I think not getting enough credit for how tough he is. On numerous occasions he has ridden hurt and injured. The not shaking Simo's hand was a bit naff - but in his opinion Simo had ruined Pedrosa's best chance for a MotoGP World Championship. Look at his results prior to Le Mans.
Qatar 3rd, Jerez 2nd, Portugal 1st, Le Mans taken out and broken collar bone.
Then first race back nearly fully fit (he did come back a bit too early and ride for points in Mugello) Germany 1st again...I'd be pretty fucked off.

Thanks for that. I got the email about racingforme.

I completely agree about Pedrosa, he was my pick for champ this year, and while he may have glass collarbones... he's still a tough little prick.

RobGassit

21st July 2011, 18:04

Pedrosa has had WORKS Hondas and Repsol money for how long? And at the risk of upsetting you fans on here, he has phucked around with what should have been the open cheque to a Championship. Both he and Dovi have squandered their golden opportunity and they need to move on. Don't even start me on Capirossi! Bring on the hungry young riders who are begging for a ride.

BMWST?

21st July 2011, 19:47

discodan

22nd July 2011, 13:21

Dovi....sheesh he has only been on a factory ride for one season

I think this is Dovi's third season on the factory bike but let's face it, who is gonna do a better job than Dani and Dovi? Only one person can win the championship each year so that doesn't mean that everyone else should be replaced.

Crasherfromwayback

22nd July 2011, 13:24

I think this is Dovi's third season on the factory bike but let's face it, who is gonna do a better job than Dani and Dovi? Only one person can win the championship each year so that doesn't mean that everyone else should be replaced.

I can understand someone like Dovi being kept on as a second rider to the so called 'top' rider in Repsol etc...but when Pedrosa or now Stoner are hired to actually WIN the championship, and repeatedly fail to do so, I think it's reasonably fair to expect you may loose your job.

slowpoke

22nd July 2011, 19:49

Been a whole lot written about that. But I reckon anyone that saw him comming in after those races would've seen he was a fucking ill man. He claimed he was that weak riding that he was a danger to the other riders (have you ever suffered arm pump etc yourself), that it was better he pull out.

He came back healthier and won...what...three out of the last 5 races? But you're abviously forgetting that he's also raced with a wrist that was still fucked, and kept riding.

Besides...Stoner has won a championship...Pedrosa never has. How's that sit with you?

Kevin S thinks Stoner was wrong to sit out a few races when he was crook...yet quit a few races into a season. So who is the biggest pussy out of those two?

Haha, just winding you up mate, I saw Stoner after climbing off a bike and it he looked like death warmed up. How the fuck do ya race when you are puking into your helmet? But he did, and still beat most of the field.

Pedrosa is a bit of conundrum. The Honda's haven't looked this strong since....since....since Rossi left really. Hence I reckon Pedrosa is so bitter about Simo's lil' effort. Yamaha and Ducati have had the wood on 'em for what, the past 5 or 6 seasons? And now Pedrosa should have been in the box seat, but for that farkin' Aussie newcomer. And to re-break an already broken and plated collar bone just makes it doubly hard. How do ya race with a collar bone crunching away like a bowl of cornflakes?

Crasherfromwayback

22nd July 2011, 20:12

Haha, just winding you up mate, I saw Stoner after climbing off a bike and it he looked like death warmed up. How the fuck do ya race when you are puking into your helmet? But he did, and still beat most of the field.

Pedrosa is a bit of conundrum. The Honda's haven't looked this strong since....since....since Rossi left really. Hence I reckon Pedrosa is so bitter about Simo's lil' effort. Yamaha and Ducati have had the wood on 'em for what, the past 5 or 6 seasons? And now Pedrosa should have been in the box seat, but for that farkin' Aussie newcomer. And to re-break an already broken and plated collar bone just makes it doubly hard. How do ya race with a collar bone crunching away like a bowl of cornflakes?

I know. We all wind each other up, as do fans of all sports. Part of the fun I reckon.

I actually do REALLY feel for Pedrosa. He's one of THE fastest racers I've ever seen when he's on, but in my opinion he's in the past just not been 'on' often enough. And this year...well it was looking like he'd finally got it all sorted then got hurt again. So man...a real bad buzz for him.

I'm starting to wonder though, what will happen if Stoner doesn't start winning races? Mathematically Pedro could still win it, but let's face it...it's a hell of a long shot. If Lorenzo keeps peeling Stoner back...how long do you think it'll take HRC to ask Pedro to stop beating Stoner? And I'm sure we all know just how desperate HRC must be to win a Moto GP title in the 800CC era right?

So this could get REALLY interesting!!! Personally...I hate team orders, and so far, it's been great to see Dovi beat Stoner fair and square head to head, and Pedro too.

I wanna see if Stoner can keep it together and beat every cunt for the title through his own riding, not through team orders. It would be a real shame in my eyes though, if the race he dnf'd due to no fault of his own cost him the championship. I hope that's not playing with his head already.

All in all...so far? One of the best seasons I've been privy too in ages. Loving it. Got a few cheeky bucks on Spies to sneek the Laguna win, even though I don't think it'll happen due to how fast the Lorenzo/Pedro/Stoner show are going.

Bet there are a few good scraps right throughout the field again too.

Go Bautista too!!!

denill

23rd July 2011, 08:20

Pedro's in a class waaaay all of his own though. In the press conference after winning on Sunday he looked like somebody had just shot his dog... how the interviewer resisted the temptation to grab him by the throat and slap him a time or two beats me.

WTF Riders are there to do a job. And that job is not to entertain...................

Pedrosa and Stoner are often criticised for being dour and that wouldn't worry them in the least. They do the business where it counts.

In my experience the most successful competitors are those that say little of their exploits. Like Ben Spies. Whereas the loquacious types are little more than Pit Posers.

carbonhed

23rd July 2011, 19:12

WTF Riders are there to do a job. And that job is not to entertain...................

Pedrosa and Stoner are often criticised for being dour and that wouldn't worry them in the least. They do the business where it counts.

In my experience the most successful competitors are those that say little of their exploits. Like Ben Spies. Whereas the loquacious types are little more than Pit Posers.

Well it takes all sorts and you're welcome to sit in a dark corner staring morosely into your half empty glass of warm piss with your dull buddies Ben and Danny talking about how fucking hardcore you all are.

I'd rather have a laugh and a few beers with Rossi, Simoncelli, Edwards, Hayden, Capirossi and Lorenzo... de Puniet can bring the chicks. :woohoo:

racefactory

23rd July 2011, 19:35

Well it takes all sorts but your welcome to sit in a dark corner staring morosely into your half empty glass of warm piss with your dull buddies Ben and Danny talking about how fucking hardcore you all are.

I'd rather have a laugh and a few beers with Rossi, Simoncelli, Edwards, Hayden, Capirossi and Lorenzo... de Puniet can bring the chicks. :woohoo:

Agreed.

Like it or not, spectators watch this for entertainment. Who wants to cheer for a wet blanket?

steveyb

23rd July 2011, 19:37

... de Puniet can bring the chicks. :woohoo:

K'n oath!!!!!!!!!!

NZsarge

24th July 2011, 07:46

I'd rather have a laugh and a few beers with Rossi, Simoncelli, Edwards, Hayden, Capirossi and Lorenzo... de Puniet can bring the chicks. :woohoo:

If i was havin' a beer with Simo I think i'd end up giving him a hair cut, it'd drive me nuts..

denill

25th July 2011, 10:21

See what I mean? That's where the talking (and the acting) counts. We have watched some fucking great racers performing at LS. :yes:

Crasherfromwayback

25th July 2011, 10:59

Fixed that for ya man.

Didn't fix that too good mate!

eelracing

25th July 2011, 21:55

Didn't fix that too good mate!

Fair call Pete,but it was more wishfull thinking on my part.

While this season has been all we could ask for so far, I want to see Stoner and Lorenzo go toe to toe for the rest of it but without the points advantage that Casey is currently enjoying.Not that he does'nt deserve it mind you.

Eight rounds to go and she's still all on so just think of me as the flouride protecting those (increasingly)worn down stumps you call teeth.