Shitty rock and a hard place

[placidfemme]

Long story short my cousin knocked up his girlfriend... found out she was knocked up and dumped her (tosser :angry:). She is hardcore Christian and so won't abort the baby.

My cousin and his immediate family, which happen to be my only family in NZ want nothing to do with the mother or the baby.

I'm super excited to have a little niece/nephew as I missed out on the first 8 years of my other niece & nephews lives. So this is so cool for me, and I don't mind the mother, she's pretty cool.

So I want to be a part of this kids life, but if I do I will effectivley be taking sides and my family will cut me out like they are cutting her out.

I know they don't sound like they (my family) are worth the effort giving this situation as an example, but they are still my family none the less...

What you reckon?

[Deano]

Do what you feel is right. I think your family could show some more compassion.....(that's me being extremely polite about it !)

[Maha]

Family's can be not fun at times Tammy.
Its a tough one really...gotta go with your what head says...dont let emotions cloud what you heart is telling you.
If you are mates with the girl involved and continue to be mates then that matters alot too.

[HenryDorsetCase]

WWOP

I thought that Christians didnt fuck before marriage?

is she hot?

and do what you think is right, but you're right your cousin who duffed her then fucked off needs a kick in the slats. Presumably this is yet another baby I will have to support through my taxes.

[Indiana_Jones]

Yay, another fatherless child in the world :facepalm:

Do what you think is right, dear.

-Indy

[placidfemme]

Do what you feel is right. I think your family could show some more compassion.....(that's me being extremely polite about it !)

you did well... my politness is nowhere near that nice in this situation!

Its a long complicated story why my aunt & cousin are being like this... all at the fault of them-selves. The mother is the innocent party in this, and her only fault is loving my tosser of a cousin. Which I tried to tell her months ago, but love is deaf (and dumb) and this is where it has ended up.

I want more-so to be in this baby's life then to back down to my familys whims of selfishness. Just can't seem to wrap my head around not having family here...

[BAY CITY MOTORCYCLES]

So I want to be a part of this kids life, but if I do I will effectivley be taking sides and my family will cut me out like they are cutting her out.

I know they don't sound like they (my family) are worth the effort giving this situation as an example, but they are still my family none the less...

What you reckon?

Hell...maybe it's you're family that should be 'flushed'

[Indiana_Jones]

Sounds like your cousin is a drop kick of a cunt muscle....

-Indy

[placidfemme]

WWOP

I thought that Christians didnt fuck before marriage?

is she hot?

and do what you think is right, but you're right your cousin who duffed her then fucked off needs a kick in the slats. Presumably this is yet another baby I will have to support through my taxes.

WWOP?

Is she hot? Um... Sort of. I havn't looked at her like that, but yeah I guess so.

Nah you won't support this baby, her family is made and they will support her no matter what!

[ellipsis]

...blood is not always thicker than water...you will always regret not doing what your intuition and heart says...there are many out there who did what they did, at the time and live to regret it...(poor kid, poor girl, ya cuz is an arsehole)...

[placidfemme]

Sounds like your cousin is a drop kick of a cunt muscle....

-Indy

I'd call him a cunt... but he lacks the depth and the warmth :shutup:

[placidfemme]

Hell...maybe it's you're family that should be 'flushed'

agreed... you meet the gay little bastard

[Scuba_Steve]

First things first, smack your cousin upside da head & get him fixed, he obviously cannot handle the responsibility that comes with having them.
Is the mother ok with you wanting to hang out with the baby? if so then do what you want, don't let other peoples emotions/issues get in your way, family or not.

[BAY CITY MOTORCYCLES]

agreed... you meet the gay little bastard

Did I bum him? Didn't I meat ya Aunty? :corn:

[Indiana_Jones]

Nah you won't support this baby, her family is made and they will support her no matter what!

Baby sounds like a lotto ticket for your cousin..... :woohoo:

-Indy

[Ronin]

Hard one indeed. Were it me... I would be the 'better' person. If you get on with the mother and you want to be in the child's life then do it. Whatever your family do is their choice and any problem they have is also their own.

[HenryDorsetCase]

you did well... my politness is nowhere near that nice in this situation!

Its a long complicated story why my aunt & cousin are being like this... all at the fault of them-selves. The mother is the innocent party in this, and her only fault is loving my tosser of a cousin. Which I tried to tell her months ago, but love is deaf (and dumb) and this is where it has ended up.

I want more-so to be in this baby's life then to back down to my familys whims of selfishness. Just can't seem to wrap my head around not having family here...

answered your own question. And family? fuck them. From my perspective, I have a brother I havent spoken to in over 20 years, and likely never will again, and the other brother I email all the time (mostly smutty jokes but whatever) and talk to and generally get on with. If your family cant or wont accept your decision then fuck them.

[Ronin]

Hard one indeed. Were it me... I would be the 'better' person. If you get on with the mother and you want to be in the child's life then do it. Whatever your family do is their choice and any problem they have is also their own.

Oh, and kick your cousin in the nuts for me next time you see him will you?

[placidfemme]

Is the mother ok with you wanting to hang out with the baby?

Yup she even cried when I asked if that was ok and said she thought she would never hear from me again. She is happy as with me being there

[placidfemme]

Did I bum him? Didn't I meat ya Aunty? :corn:

oh you poor bastard you have had the misfortune of meeting them both havnt you... I would pay for your counselling but it would cost too much cause of your pre-existing issues :innocent:

[HenryDorsetCase]

Yup she even cried when I asked if that was ok and said she thought she would never hear from me again. She is happy as with me being there

there you go. polish up that halo you're doing the right thing.

WWOP means worthless without pictures. basically me being crass. (Who'd have thought?)

[imdying]

my cousin knocked up his girlfriend... found out she was knocked up and dumped her

My cousin and his immediate family, which happen to be my only family in NZ want nothing to do with the mother or the baby.

So I want to be a part of this kids life, but if I do I will effectivley be taking sides and my family will cut me out like they are cutting her out.

What you reckon?No loss.... fuck em. David Bain will have tips on how to deal with a family that are cunts.

[Ferkletastic]

nthing your cousin needing a smack up the brakett.

Be an awesome Aunty. I'm an awesome Uncle and it's pretty great.

[yungatart]

You know what to do Tammy. Sometimes family ain't worth a flying fuck...your little niece or nephew needs to know that their paternal family aren't all losers....

[Scuba_Steve]

Yup she even cried when I asked if that was ok and said she thought she would never hear from me again. She is happy as with me being there

Then do it :yes:. But 1st fix your cousin
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Tb6c_uvCu6I/SayM26A3Z7I/AAAAAAAAAB0/MxZ1iygos8E/S220/Sign-PleaseNeuterYourPets%26Relatives.jpg

[Indiana_Jones]

So when are the pictures coming?

I need some new stuff for the wank bank...:whistle:

-Indy

[placidfemme]

lol Indy I think your wank bank keeps declining due to insufficent funds :woohoo:

Got plenty of pics of her from my last holiday in Tauranga, but ain't putting them up here :blink:

Thanks all you've made me feel better (and right) in my choice! I will have a cute new little family member and loose two big shits in the trade!

[racefactory]

Hang on I thought Christians didn't have anything to do with cock until after popping the ring?

[mashman]

Do your parents ask you who they can be friends with? irrespective of wether you'll like them or not? Tis your life to do with what you wish.

[george formby]

Be truthful, stick to your guns & do what is truly right. Stuff the people who do not have the balls to act that way. They will drag you down.
I grew a set of clangers in broadly similar circumstances & my future improved immeasurably as a consequence.

The view is pretty good from the moral high ground with an easy conscience.

[Mental Trousers]

Thanks all you've made me feel better (and right) in my choice! I will have a cute new little family member and loose two big shits in the trade!

Good choice. She's going to need all the support she can get, especially as your cousin seems to be a useless shit who created the situation that he doesn't want to take responsibility for.

You can now guilt trip your useless prick of a cousin. That alone is worth any hassles with the rest of your family.

[BAY CITY MOTORCYCLES]

Thanks all you've made me feel better (and right) in my choice! I will have a cute new little family member and loose two big shits in the trade!

Oooh....can I be Uncle DMNTD? :corn:

[meteor]

Long story short my cousin knocked up his girlfriend... found out she was knocked up and dumped her... What you reckon?

Your cousin's not a nice man! His family who won't support her and give him the advice he needs about being an adult are negligent and irresponsible. You are right to offer her support and friendship and if you can keep the connection going for the kid... great. Maybe in time he'll figure it out, maybe he's just in shock? Good on you to do the right thing regardless of family pressure.

[Oblivion]

It takes balls to knock up a chick.

It takes even bigger balls to own up and say that you want to be apart of the childs life.

Obviously this cousin of yours gets led around by his sexual desires and is not willing to pay the price.

But as long as you do what you think is right no-one else will think the better of you :whocares:

I have an uncle who I have not seen or heard from since our Grandads passing in 07'. All he wanted to do was to take everything of value for himself. All the leather furniture, cabinets, Overseas trinkets. He didn't care that his brother had a family and could use all the stuff that he wanted so badly. Not to mention that he has a job where he pays himself to sit at a computer all day. (Not to mention the XXXXXXL Keg he has strapped to his body)

Hell, Last year he sucked up and asked the person who he was staying with to marry him. (She is a wonderful and frivolous person, Get along with her just fine) And guess who didn't get and invite to that wedding? :oi-grr:

Even after the earthquakes in Ch-ch, Dad gladly offered them a place to stay, if he was willing to put all the shit behind them. And what does he do? Bugger off to Queenstown for 3 weeks.....:angry:

Family are sometimes the biggest arseholes that you can come across. Don't let them stop you from doing what you think is right. By the sounds of things, they are the ones that need to get the clip up the backside. (Any takers? :devil2:)

[flyingcrocodile46]

I know they don't sound like they (my family) are worth the effort giving this situation as an example, but they are still my family none the less...

What you reckon?

Does she swallow?.. perhaps not! It's an important consideration

[nodrog]

So when are the pictures coming?

I need some new stuff for the wank bank...:whistle:

-Indy

You impatient bastard, it hasnt even been born yet!

[avgas]

Befriend the breeder. Your cousin sounds like a worse fellow to be associated with.

[placidfemme]

Well the "side taking" accusations have already started... Oh well. No loss there

[imdying]

It's not an accusation, it's a statement of fact.

Your reaction should be, "So what?".

He's being a cunt and you're a big girl who is entitled to take sides if you want. Own your actions, tell them to eat shit.

[Banditbandit]

Hang on I thought Christians didn't have anything to do with cock until after popping the ring?

That's why they invented confession ...

[placidfemme]

That's why they invented confession ...

And forgiveness

[Ratti]

Family are the ones who care for you not matter what, not necessarily the ones who share your genetic heritage.

You're not choosing sides, you're choosing to make decisions about your own life

[ynot slow]

Can't choose your friends,sounds like dictatorship to me,or idle threats to be disowned,but guess what,choose family and they may still crap on ya,choose her and you have a friend and smaller friend for life,and the family may come round as well. Man am lucky to have good family,all the cousins get along,my brother(s)as well,same on kids mums side they all get on together.

[scumdog]

What the hell wrong with your 'family' - do they hate the girl for not keeping her legs crossed or something?

Sheesh, some people are even more judgemental than KB and as shallow as a hokker.

Be supportive to her - she'll need all the friends she can have at the moment...

[Number One]

Do what you feel is right. I think your family could show some more compassion.....(that's me being extremely polite about it !)

Yeah that is EXTREMEMLY polite....I won't be so.

HOW RUDE - he spreads his seed far and wide and isn't man enough to deal with the consequences...stupid little boy she is better off without him and if family can't see it that way...stuff them!

Typical - the woman gets left dealing with the shit and he gets supported by family to fuck off and leave her too it...raise a man not a mouse! ARRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHH

BTW that feels heaps better thanks :) and good luck!

PS: I'm a totally biased as the child of an irresponsible dog of a sperm donor who never made an effort and fucked around on my mum once I was born.

[Brett]

If she is a hard core Christian, she is probably getting a whole heap of stick from her family and church friends. It is entirely possible that she feels very alone in this, and really she shouldn't have to.
If she is going through this largely on her own, I am bloody sure that she would appreciate a friend around who shows an interest in her and expresses a desire to be part of her life and who shows her that having the kid, while perhaps a stupid move now given the situation, will ultimately be a blessing. Your support may be exactly what she needs to hold her chin up. if your family can't see this, then their hearts are in the wrong place.

Also, it is not the childs fault, I am sure that growing up they will be immensely appreciative of having another family role model around.

One last thing, please kick your cousin in the nut sack for me for being a big tosspot and walking out on a girl he knocked up and should be supporting now. Asshole.

[Berries]

Hang on I thought Christians didn't have anything to do with cock until after popping the ring?

That's why they invented confession ...
And anal beads apparently.

[placidfemme]

Yeah that is EXTREMEMLY polite....I won't be so.

HOW RUDE - he spreads his seed far and wide and isn't man enough to deal with the consequences...stupid little boy she is better off without him and if family can't see it that way...stuff them!

Typical - the woman gets left dealing with the shit and he gets supported by family to fuck off and leave her too it...raise a man not a mouse! ARRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHH

BTW that feels heaps better thanks :) and good luck!

PS: I'm a totally biased as the child of an irresponsible dog of a sperm donor who never made an effort and fucked around on my mum once I was born.

Agreed. I havn't heard from them since last week and don't think I will for a while. Just before I found out about the baby they mentioned moving to Aussie. Running away always helps huh :facepalm:

Oh well. Not too much of a consolation for the little bubble (cause it looks like a bubble on the scan picture.... so cute! :woohoo: ) But I will still be there for it... I'm gonna teach it to ride! When it's old enough of course!

[fuknKIWI]

Agreed. I havn't heard from them since last week and don't think I will for a while. Just before I found out about the baby they mentioned moving to Aussie. Running away always helps huh :facepalm:

Oh well. Not too much of a consolation for the little bubble (cause it looks like a bubble on the scan picture.... so cute! :woohoo: ) But I will still be there for it... I'm gonna teach it to ride! When it's old enough of course!
Yep that should be good for our reputation here:angry::tugger:

[placidfemme]

Yep that should be good for our reputation here:angry::tugger:

Don't worry they are not kiwi's

[Number One]

Moving to Oz funny that's where my sperm donor went after I popped out lol


Yep that should be good for our reputation here:angry::tugger:

too late!

[Mental Trousers]

Well the "side taking" accusations have already started... Oh well. No loss there

Those who aren't morally good hate it and will attack you when you make a moral stand. Accusations of taking sides are rather mild.


What the hell wrong with your 'family' - do they hate the girl for not keeping her legs crossed or something?

Usually the family of the dickhead see it as that bitch is trying to trap him by tying him down with a baby or something along those lines. They know what the words personal responsibility mean separately but don't have the faintest idea what they mean when you stick them together.

Losers. pf, You're better off without them. After all, you can't choose your family, but you can chose your friends and it looks like you have.

[placidfemme]

Usually the family of the dickhead see it as that bitch is trying to trap him by tying him down with a baby

that's exactly what they think. I think its really shallow of them to think so highly of themselves. She knows having a baby is the last thing that will make him want to be with her, and if she could turn back time she would, but now that its happened she will go through with it. Big ups to her

[Mental Trousers]

that's exactly what they think. I think its really shallow of them to think so highly of themselves. She knows having a baby is the last thing that will make him want to be with her, and if she could turn back time she would, but now that its happened she will go through with it. Big ups to her

Damn straight. She's willing to accept the responsibility and live with the consequences of her actions. The arsehole dad and his family could learn a thing or two.

[placidfemme]

Damn straight. She's willing to accept the responsibility and live with the consequences of her actions. The arsehole dad and his family could learn a thing or two.

Eh, time will tell. If he takes his current path he will essentially be becoming his father. Apparantly "I'm going to give my kid everything I never had" has small print excluding the father/kid relationship

[Geeen]

Um, Since your cousin is the spooge donor doesnt the make the impending sprog family, and by extension the Mother as well? I think you have done the right thing, by being there for her, when my wife got pregnant with our first she was 19 and not married :gob: Even though she had left the church by then she still got the dissaproving 'God shalt smite thee' bullshit. We were in Tauranga at the time and my Wifes family is religious as well. As it turns out we got married and reproduced again :facepalm:. So bubs's Mum is most likely over the moon someone is thinking of HER.

Man I ramble