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Jamesnicholasnz
30th July 2011, 17:19
Hey guys James here I'm new to scootling.

I've got a couple of questions about learners licence and scooting.
So anyway I'll get into it.
I'm a student 15 years of age, have had learners licence for a couple of weeks and am thinking about getting a scooter, a 50cc one.
So what do you think should I get one.
Baotian is a brand I am looking at. Is it a good brand?, haven't seen much about NZ ones. And other brand that are good.
I've been thinking about getting a scooter for some time now and would like some information from some people that know stuff about it.
Any brands I could choose would be great also

Cheers and thanks for and replys. I'll reply to your ones:)

DMNTD
30th July 2011, 17:36
In all honesty I have never heard of the brand and I sell bikes for a living.
Ok...if you're going to go down this path ensure that there is Dealer/supplier back up with servicing and parts.
Generally if a decent Dealer is selling them then the back up SHOULD be good.
Good luck :yes:

baptist
30th July 2011, 17:45
I have a friend who uses one for work, he has a Suzuki, it's his second one (the first one was collected by a speeding motorist who hit him on a roundabout - so be careful while having fun aye), so he must like them. As DMNTD said make sure you have a dealer local who can keep you going :yes::scooter::scooter::scooter:

Sable
30th July 2011, 17:52
They go hard but the quality is absolutely awful.

Spearfish
30th July 2011, 18:04
Don't get a 4 stroke

Oblivion
30th July 2011, 19:19
For gods sake try to avoid some of the Chinese ones. Not being racist or anything but the build quality on some of those machines is absolutely horrible. :shutup:

Jamesnicholasnz
31st July 2011, 02:26
Ok thanks guys. What brands would be a good way to go with. Living in Christchurch? Cheers

Jamesnicholasnz
31st July 2011, 02:32
For gods sake try to avoid some of the Chinese ones. Not being racist or anything but the build quality on some of those machines is absolutely horrible. :shutup:

Yeah I was thinking the same thing... Which brand would be a good one to go with. Suzuki, yamaha, Honda etc.

Jamesnicholasnz
31st July 2011, 02:33
In all honesty I have never heard of the brand and I sell bikes for a living.
Ok...if you're going to go down this path ensure that there is Dealer/supplier back up with servicing and parts.
Generally if a decent Dealer is selling them then the back up SHOULD be good.
Good luck :yes:

Which bike brands do you sell, and do you sell scooters?
Cheers

Jamesnicholasnz
31st July 2011, 02:36
Don't get a 4 stroke

This may seem like a dumb question but what is the difference between 4 and 2 stroke. Which one would be better to go with and why?
Cheers James

Spearfish
31st July 2011, 09:07
This may seem like a dumb question but what is the difference between 4 and 2 stroke. Which one would be better to go with and why?
Cheers James

The four strokes in a 50cc moped just dont have enough sting.
Cheap as chips on fuel but they just don't go.

Is it worth considering getting your basic handling skills done and go for something a we bit bigger? The basic handling skills or BHS is a fun few hours with a test you will be well ready for at the end. If you enjoy the 50 you will want to move on up anyway, there is nothing wrong with a moped in the right aplication but a scooter like an AN125 (almost the same price as a good 50) will give you more freedom to explore different riding and with any luck you will get hooked.

pritch
31st July 2011, 09:20
I bought a second hand Suzuki two stroke, made in china but to Suzuki standards.
it has done a lot of work with no major problems. Currently the speedo has gone on strike, but that's no big deal.

The Yamaha jog is another good choice and has a disk brake. I'd pass on the Chinese brands yet. I'm sure they'll be good one day but that day may still be some way off?

davereid
31st July 2011, 09:53
Any Japanese Brand
Any European Brand
(but be careful you dont get a chinese bike with a european sounding name, so look for good names like Peugeot, Vespa, Aprilia etc)

Many of the Taiwanese brands ie PGO and TGB.

I have a TGB, now up to 48000 trouble free km, and it has just been a stunning little bike..

Get a two stroke.

DangerMice
31st July 2011, 10:59
Is it worth considering getting your basic handling skills done

Even if you only plan to ride a scooter, it still might be worth getting your 6L, because soon you're either going to have to get that or a 6M.


Also, check out the scooter section (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/forumdisplay.php/31-Scooters) on this forum for plenty of reading. Threads like this (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/135599-True-cost-of-running-a-50cc-scooter) might be useful to you, as well as the "What scooter should I get" type.

Jamesnicholasnz
31st July 2011, 11:59
The four strokes in a 50cc moped just dont have enough sting.
Cheap as chips on fuel but they just don't go.

Is it worth considering getting your basic handling skills done and go for something a we bit bigger? The basic handling skills or BHS is a fun few hours with a test you will be well ready for at the end. If you enjoy the 50 you will want to move on up anyway, there is nothing wrong with a moped in the right aplication but a scooter like an AN125 (almost the same price as a good 50) will give you more freedom to explore different riding and with any luck you will get hooked.

Ok thanks for the reply with lots of details.
Cheers James.

Jamesnicholasnz
31st July 2011, 12:10
Even if you only plan to ride a scooter, it still might be worth getting your 6L, because soon you're either going to have to get that or a 6M.


Also, check out the scooter section (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/forumdisplay.php/31-Scooters) on this forum for plenty of reading. Threads like this (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/135599-True-cost-of-running-a-50cc-scooter) might be useful to you, as well as the "What scooter should I get" type.

Can i get my 6L on my 1L? And as they are changing the law as of Monday up to sixteen. Does that include motorcycle licence? Thanks James

Jamesnicholasnz
31st July 2011, 12:16
Even if you only plan to ride a scooter, it still might be worth getting your 6L, because soon you're either going to have to get that or a 6M.


Also, check out the scooter section (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/forumdisplay.php/31-Scooters) on this forum for plenty of reading. Threads like this (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/135599-True-cost-of-running-a-50cc-scooter) might be useful to you, as well as the "What scooter should I get" type.

Can I get a 6L when in my 1L? And as they are changing the law on Monday. Does that include motorcycle licence? Cheers James

davereid
31st July 2011, 12:18
Even for a Moped you will need a class 6 licence soon. Its a class 6M I think. You wont be able to legally ride on a car licence.

So do the motorcycle learners. Same cost, no harder, and may open a new world.

16 is the age now.

Jamesnicholasnz
31st July 2011, 12:19
Can I get a 6L when in my 1L? And as they are changing the law on Monday. Does that include motorcycle licence? Cheers James

Thanks man I was just trying to figure out how to use this site. First time on here ya see. Wasn't expecting to get so many replys. So anyway thanks guys. Cheers James.

Jamesnicholasnz
31st July 2011, 13:07
Even if you only plan to ride a scooter, it still might be worth getting your 6L, because soon you're either going to have to get that or a 6M.


Also, check out the scooter section (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/forumdisplay.php/31-Scooters) on this forum for plenty of reading. Threads like this (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/135599-True-cost-of-running-a-50cc-scooter) might be useful to you, as well as the "What scooter should I get" type.

Can i get my 6L on my 1L? And as they are changing the law as of Monday up to sixteen. Does that include motorcycle licence? Thanks James

Spearfish
31st July 2011, 13:30
Can i get my 6L on my 1L? And as they are changing the law as of Monday up to sixteen. Does that include motorcycle licence? Thanks James

You can get a 6L without a 1L its only the HT classes that graduate up the classes.
You could be out of luck.

Jamesnicholasnz
31st July 2011, 17:59
You can get a 6L without a 1L its only the HT classes that graduate up the classes.
You could be out of luck.

Ok thanks for that. Appreciate it guys.

DangerMice
31st July 2011, 22:53
I can't remember what conditions are on the 6M, such as hours you can ride like on a 6L. Anyone else remember?

Jamesnicholasnz
1st August 2011, 21:23
I can't remember what conditions are on the 6M, such as hours you can ride like on a 6L. Anyone else remember?

What is this 6M is there a licence for a moped now. If you apply for a 6L do you get a 6M. Have never heard of a 6M before or is that a completely different licence.
Cheers James.

DangerMice
1st August 2011, 22:07
It's a bike license specifically for mopeds (scooters). Comes into effect 2012

from: http://www.nzta.govt.nz/consultation/driver-licensing-amendment-2011/docs/draft-driver-licensing-amendment-2011.pdf


15 New heading and clauses 19A and 19B inserted
The following heading and clauses are inserted after clause 19:
“Moped licences
“19A Obtaining moped licence
“(1) A person is entitled to be issued with a Class 6M licence if the person—
“(a) is 15 years of age or over at the date of application for the licence: and
“(b) has made an application in accordance with clause 9 and complied with the requirements of clauses 10 to 14; and
“(c) passes the theory test under clause 45; and “(d) produces a certificate of successful completion of the basic handling skills test under clause 48; and
“(e) produces a medical certificate in accordance with clause 44, in the case of person who is 75 years of age or over at the date of application for the licence.
“(2) To avoid doubt, a moped licence entitles the holder to drive a moped only and does not entitle the holder to drive any other motor vehicle.
“19B Conditions of Class 6M licence
“(1) A Class 6M licence authorises the holder to drive a moped only.
“(2) The holder of a Class 6M licence must not carry another person on the moped or in a sidecar attached to the moped.

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50 Transitional provisions
(1) A photographic driver licence issued by the Agency before the commencement of this rule remains valid until the licence is renewed even if that format of the licence does not comply with the requirements of these rules.
(2) In order to obtain a Class 6M licence, a moped only rider must, within 3 years after the commencement of this rule, complete the moped-specific basic handling skills test and pass the motorcycle theory test.
(3) To avoid doubt, subclause (2) does not apply to the holder of a Class 6, 6L, or 6R licence.

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Explanatory note
This note is not part of the rule, but is intended to indicate its general effect.
This rule, which comes into force on [1 July 2011], amends the Land Transport (Driver Licensing) Rule 1999.
The rule is an ordinary rule made under the Land Transport Act 1998.
The objective of the rule is set out in Schedule 1. A statement of the consultation undertaken in relation to the rule is set out in Schedule 2.

DangerMice
1st August 2011, 22:15
And the AA's take on it, calling us all dirty filthy liars..

http://www.aa.co.nz/assets/about/events/government-submissions/2006/driver-licensing-amendment-rule-28-02-2006.pdf

Proposal 19
The AA supported the proposal to introduce the dedicated moped licence (or Class 6 requirement) for moped riders in our submission on the Safer Journeys strategy. We consider that relatively inexperienced moped riders who only have a Class 1 (be it L, R or F) licence do not have sufficient competency to handle a powered-two-wheeler, or understand the different hazard perception skills required for using such a vehicle in the shared road space, and that this is contributing to moped accidents. We endorse this proposal on evidence in the Rule overview that specific moped licensing and testing will reduce moped accidents by up to 13%.

For similar reasons outlined in Proposal 16, many mopeds, despite meeting the definition of a moped, are in fact capable of higher speeds and may be ridden as such. Indeed, we suspect many scooters that meet the definition of a motorcycle are incorrectly registered as a moped and illegally ridden by someone on a Class 1 licence, and so this proposal will also ensure that, regardless of vehicle compliance, the rider has the appropriate skills to handle a powered-twowheeler.

Nevertheless, we recognise this proposal may be unpopular with many moped riders who do not have a Class 6 licence, particularly those who have been riding for some time and have gained the appropriate skills. This will impose costs on them which may not be justified in terms of safety benefits for those people. The NZTA should consider some way of accommodating and transitioning these experienced riders.

We are also concerned that these proposals, in conjunction with increasing licensing costs for young drivers, a rise in the minimum Learner licence age, and higher ACC levies, are all contributing to higher mobility costs for young people which could lead to an increase in unlicensed drivers or riders and vehicle non-compliance. We would be interested to understand any modelling and cost:benefit analysis that has been undertaken to measure these negative factors.

The proposed Class 6M licence will need to be managed carefully to ensure the BHST is widely available throughout NZ and at minimum cost to address these issues.

However, the AA does support the three year transitional period to give people time to obtain the minimum Class 6M licence.

We also recognise that users of pedal-powered mopeds that are in effect bicycles with a supplementary motor (the original definition of a moped) will also be required to obtain a Class 6M licence. Give these mopeds are more akin to bicycles than scooters, and that bicyclists need no licence, we suggest it may be equitable to consider exempting users of such pedalpowered vehicles from obtaining a moped licence. Therefore we suggest the definition of a moped be reviewed to distinguish between a scooter with a power output up to 2kW and maximum speed of 50km/h and a pedal-powered bicycle.

Jamesnicholasnz
1st August 2011, 22:53
So with this new 6M coming in. You don't have to be 16 years of age to apply for it, you only need to be 15. As the new age for car drivers is 16. And it is quite alot to read so next year when I'm 16 I can get a 6L or can I go for it now seeing I've got the 1L. SO WHAT SHOULD I DO ABOUT WANTING TO GET THE SCOOTER WITHEN A COUPLE OF WEEKS WOULD IT BE A GOOD IDEA OR NOT?
Thanks for the law thing you sent me I was trying to find something like that but couldn't seem to find one.
Cheers James

DangerMice
1st August 2011, 23:39
Get the scoot, have a blast riding it on your 1L. You'll have 3 years to sort out the 6 license.

Get a Jog (http://www.thescooterreview.com/component/content/article/289-yamaha-jog-cv50?showall=1) :2thumbsup and some good riding gear

Jamesnicholasnz
1st August 2011, 23:48
Get the scoot, have a blast riding it on your 1L. You'll have 3 years to sort out the 6 license.

Get a Jog (http://www.thescooterreview.com/component/content/article/289-yamaha-jog-cv50?showall=1) :2thumbsup and some good riding gear

Cheers Mate. I think that's what I might do. Thanks for all the help. And I'll def go with the Yamaha. Thanks man, James

Spearfish
2nd August 2011, 07:36
I have to laugh at the AA who think weaving around some cones in a deserted car park at 20kph will suddenly empower a new rider with all the skills they need to avoid contributing to the crash statistics especially someone new to any form of transport let alone two wheeled.
Rider handling is just an integral part of road-craft.


By weaving around cones I don't mean the advanced skill training like a NASS night or the equivalent meets around the country.

Indiana_Jones
2nd August 2011, 08:10
For gods sake try to avoid some of the Chinese ones. Not being racist or anything but the build quality on some of those machines is absolutely horrible. :shutup:

+1

-Indy

DangerMice
2nd August 2011, 08:51
I have to laugh at the AA who think weaving around some cones in a deserted car park at 20kph will suddenly empower a new rider with all the skills they need to avoid contributing to the crash statistics especially someone new to any form of transport let alone two wheeled.
Rider handling is just an integral part of road-craft.

Especially given they think we're all riding around high powered machines dressed in scooter drag... ahem... :shutup::shifty:

move along, nothing to see here

Grasshopperus
2nd August 2011, 08:58
James,

I seriously recommend that you get a suzuki gsxr1000, it's the best scooter you can get and not too pricey.

You won't get any attention from the police and if you do, you just give 'em the finger and then ride off faster than their damn cop cars will allow.

I think this one would be appropriate http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-394961305.htm

No need to thank me

Spearfish
2nd August 2011, 09:04
Especially given they think we're all riding around high powered machines dressed in scooter drag... ahem... :shutup::shifty:

move along, nothing to see here



Yeah about as much power as a starter motor on some bikes.

In fact there must be a bike out there that still couldn't be classed as a moped even if is was ridden on its starter motor with all the plugs out..

The AA don't think pedal bikes with engines should be included.
It could go back to the days of semi redundant pedals just to dodge the higher rego and licence restrictions.

And this is safer? http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/other/auction-393837289.htm

allycatz
2nd August 2011, 10:36
Borrow a 50cc and learn to ride it then get ya licence and get a 125cc scooter. 50cc is a waste of time and you will be relegated to the side of the road whether you want to be there or not.

not2slow
2nd August 2011, 11:59
Mate, I rode a scooter for 2.5 years. I had TGB R50X (good looking beast, the scooter not me :yes:). It was fast and there were only a few 50cc scooters that could out run this one. The Daelim 5 was one of them. Not sure if you have a TGB or Daelim dealer down Chch. Otherwise stick with the Yamaha jog, those are proven workhorses and all these names above will do 60km (dependant on how fat you are!). Also check out thescooterreview.com, they have some good reviews of most scooter brands. Also lurk around on the scooter page (as mention in another post). some of the boys that run the scooter review page post on there as well. Go for your 6R as soon as you can so you get a 250 when you have the experince and the $$. Get good riding gear as well!! $300 for a jacket may be a bit, but how much do you value your arms, legs, fingers, toes and dong? ALso you can always get a 70cc up grade kit and expansion chamber for the 50cc and really annoy the neighbours :blink:

Jamesnicholasnz
2nd August 2011, 14:52
Mate, I rode a scooter for 2.5 years. I had TGB R50X (good looking beast, the scooter not me :yes:). It was fast and there were only a few 50cc scooters that could out run this one. The Daelim 5 was one of them. Not sure if you have a TGB or Daelim dealer down Chch. Otherwise stick with the Yamaha jog, those are proven workhorses and all these names above will do 60km (dependant on how fat you are!). Also check out thescooterreview.com, they have some good reviews of most scooter brands. Also lurk around on the scooter page (as mention in another post). some of the boys that run the scooter review page post on there as well. Go for your 6R as soon as you can so you get a 250 when you have the experince and the $$. Get good riding gear as well!! $300 for a jacket may be a bit, but how much do you value your
arms, legs, fingers, toes and dong? ALso you can always get a 70cc up grade kit and expansion chamber for the 50cc and really annoy the neighbours :blink:

I'll have a look at that website posted. I'm not sure really what to do now. To buy the scooter or not. People are saying not to and people are saying to buy it. So really guys is it a good idea to get the scooter or not. Can anyone reply and tell me it is a good idea.
Cheers James.

Spearfish
2nd August 2011, 15:26
You cant go bigger until your 16 so the 50 is kinda where you are for now. DangerMice has been riding a jog for a few years I've been riding one since 2008 so as long as you don't have to travel down a motorway or areas over 70kph then it will do the job.

Full face helmets fit under the seat with your gloves inside.

The rear wheel locks with the ignition key so insurance Co'S give you a small discount for having an immobiliser.

Remember you need a full face helmet, bike jacket and gloves at a min if you have the money get some pants as well.

Some people you talk to could suggest that if you cant afford bike pants straight away then two pairs of jeans.

Then talk someone into shouting a scooter course for an early birthday present and/or any gear you don't have.


then you can do the charity run next year from bluff to Queenstown.
http://www.southernchallenge.co.nz/

DangerMice
2nd August 2011, 16:10
+1 on everything Spearfish said.

I've been riding my Jog since 2008 as well, 40kms a day, every weekday from west to central auckland and it has never missed a beat. And if you're travelling in rush hour you'll probably be going faster than most of the other traffic anyway if you decide to lane split. (Get some experience first though).

The reason I ride my Jog is because it does exactly what I need, is quick for a scoot, can carry a boot load of stuff and I have fun. (Plus I don't have the increased license, rego and WOF costs of a bigger bike).

Chuck in your $10 of petrol, top up the oil every 1000kms or so and you're away laughing.

Jamesnicholasnz
2nd August 2011, 17:12
+1 on everything Spearfish said.

I've been riding my Jog since 2008 as well, 40kms a day, every weekday from west to central auckland and it has never missed a beat. And if you're travelling in rush hour you'll probably be going faster than most of the other traffic anyway if you decide to lane split. (Get some experience first though).

The reason I ride my Jog is because it does exactly what I need, is quick for a scoot, can carry a boot load of stuff and I have fun. (Plus I don't have the increased license, rego and WOF costs of a bigger bike).
Chuck in your $10 of petrol, top up the oil every 1000kms or so and you're away laughing.

How many kms can you do on $10 of fuel. Or more if the tank can fit it. And how do you do the two stroke. With the oil. Do you just full up the petrel and that's it until you need oil. About lane splitting are you allowed to do that. I see scooters and motorcycles doing it all the time. Would you please tell me the pros and cons of the jog scooter. Thanks man. James

DangerMice
2nd August 2011, 18:53
How many kms can you do on $10 of fuel. Or more if the tank can fit it. And how do you do the two stroke. With the oil. Do you just full up the petrel and that's it until you need oil. About lane splitting are you allowed to do that. I see scooters and motorcycles doing it all the time. Would you please tell me the pros and cons of the jog scooter. Thanks man. James

It's $10 - $11 to fill the tank at the moment. The tank is approx. 5 litres. If your rollers and drive belt are in good nick, you should get about 160km. As they wear your range reduces slightly.

Oil is easy, there's a separate tank on the Jog (& on most scooters) next to the petrol filler that you fill up with 2T oil. Cost depends on the quality you use. The oil is added to the fuel automatically and you just keep filling it when it tells you, or just keep it topped off, up to you.

I won't rehash the legalities of lane splitting, there are so many threads on here about it, just have a search.

DangerMice
2nd August 2011, 19:05
Borrow a 50cc and learn to ride it then get ya licence and get a 125cc scooter. 50cc is a waste of time and you will be relegated to the side of the road whether you want to be there or not.

Bollocks, any decent stock 2T scoot will do 65kph, plenty to keep up with traffic, and will usually get away from the lights quicker as well. If you're only doing 50kph roads, why pay, what is it now, $420? rego for 125cc, plus WOF, plus license costs when 50cc is $180 rego and that's it. Doesn't make sense in my book.

If you do need to use a motorway etc, then yes I agree with you re a bigger engine.

not2slow
2nd August 2011, 20:01
Dangermice has summed it up well in terms of costs. That's why i got a 50cc (i'm 6foot and weight 90kgs) and i only went up in size due to work moving and needing to use the motorways. Scooter is the way to go :woohoo: especially when you master lane splitting, save $$, time and get to have a bit of fun getting from A to B.

DangerMice
2nd August 2011, 20:20
I split continuously for about 7km of my 20km commute along great north road (kelston-ish to pt. chev). Elsewhere I don't need to, and I just filter up to the red lights and use bus lanes where available. As you say, saves heaps of time

Jamesnicholasnz
2nd August 2011, 20:23
Dangermice has summed it up well in terms of costs. That's why i got a 50cc (i'm 6foot and weight 90kgs) and i only went up in size due to work moving and needing to use the motorways. Scooter is the way to go :woohoo: especially when you master lane splitting, save $$, time and get to have a bit of fun getting from A to B.

How did the scooter with your size, speed wise, so it went all well.
I'm 70kgs and 5foot8.

Jamesnicholasnz
2nd August 2011, 20:26
It's $10 - $11 to fill the tank at the moment. The tank is approx. 5 litres. If your rollers and drive belt are in good nick, you should get about 160km. As they wear your range reduces slightly.

Oil is easy, there's a separate tank on the Jog (& on most scooters) next to the petrol filler that you fill up with 2T oil. Cost depends on the quality you use. The oil is added to the fuel automatically and you just keep filling it when it tells you, or just keep it topped off, up to you.

I won't rehash the legalities of lane splitting, there are so many threads on here about it, just have a search.

That is pretty good. Better then the price to full your car up. Would it be best to use quality oil

DangerMice
2nd August 2011, 21:18
That is pretty good. Better then the price to full your car up. Would it be best to use quality oil

LOL, :yes: & :yes:

In reference to your other question about speed, I'm 6'1" & 100kg and I can easily get the speedo needle around far enough that I don't know what speed I'm going anymore because I ran out of numbers. You won't need full throttle to keep up with traffic.

Spearfish
2nd August 2011, 21:23
A few of us did a run from West Auckland to Waihi for a look a the mine, back to Karangahake Gorge for the night then the long run back to West Auckland. (the distance probably won't mean much to you in chch unless you gogle maps it)
The little scoot carried me at 6ft 2 and 90kg, two man tent, fart sack, spare clothes, small amount of food and to many tools we never used and had it pinned the whole way there and back. That little 50cc engine just kept going and still is, at that time the odo was 13,000ks.

The Jog engine is a Minarelli engine copied the world over (Adly engines are a clone)
http://www.minarelli.com/indexeng.html

They are so de-tuned to comply with the moped class regs there is no fear of killing the thing unless you run it out of oil or drown it.

Jamesnicholasnz
2nd August 2011, 21:26
LOL, :yes: & :yes:

In reference to your other question about speed, I'm 6'1" & 100kg and I can easily get the speedo needle around far enough that I don't know what speed I'm going anymore because I ran out of numbers. You won't need full throttle to keep up with traffic.

Ok this has pretty much sold me.
Is there anything else I should know about scooters. Lol:yes:

Jamesnicholasnz
2nd August 2011, 21:32
A few of us did a run from West Auckland to Waihi for a look a the mine, back to Karangahake Gorge for the night then the long run back to West Auckland. (the distance probably won't mean much to you in chch unless you gogle maps it)
The little scoot carried me at 6ft 2 and 90kg, two man tent, fart sack, spare clothes, small amount of food and to many tools we never used and had it pinned the whole way there and back. That little 50cc engine just kept going and still is, at that time the odo was 13,000ks.
The Jog engine is a Minarelli engine copied the world over (Adly engines are a clone)
http://www.minarelli.com/indexeng.html
They are so de-tuned to comply with the moped class regs there is no fear of killing the thing unless you run it out of oil or drown it.

Yeah not sure on the distance, but from what you say it's a long way.
So the scooter is a pretty cool little machine. What other travels have you done on it.

DangerMice
2nd August 2011, 22:05
Is there anything else I should know about scooters. Lol:yes:

Make sure the exhaust has been derestricted.

There are also a heap of performance parts you can get if you want to start tuning it.

places like
scootling.co.nz (http://shop.scootling.co.nz/index.php?act=viewCat&catId=2)
sip-scootershop.com (http://www.sip-scootershop.com)
will happily take your dollar as you chase that extra kph or 3 :scooter:

Jamesnicholasnz
2nd August 2011, 22:38
Make sure the exhaust has been derestricted.

There are also a heap of performance parts you can get if you want to start tuning it.

places like
scootling.co.nz (http://shop.scootling.co.nz/index.php?act=viewCat&catId=2)
sip-scootershop.com (http://www.sip-scootershop.com)
will happily take your dollar as you chase that extra kph or 3 :scooter:

Would the Yamaha dealer be able to do that for me when I buy the scooter. Just asking... Anything to make a sale? Lol

Spearfish
3rd August 2011, 07:49
Yeah not sure on the distance, but from what you say it's a long way.
So the scooter is a pretty cool little machine. What other travels have you done on it.

Unless you google maps it you wont know Awhitu lighthouse is. Done that one twice.
Very close to making it to Hamilton, that one went bad.
Volcano loop around auckland.
Mt Wellington and watched a bucket racing meeting.
Rode down to Ardmore Aerodrome to meet up with the crew of the coastguard plane.
West auck to Whangaparaoa for a pizza at army bay.

Nothing spectacular to someone riding a bike though. lol. :yawn:

Others have gone way further , one went from Hamilton to Cape Reinga- that would have been tedious.
I think one has done the full length of the country.
Early this year a 50cc Zip scoot (completely unassisted) rode from Auckland to Wanganui completed the central plateau scooter challenge then rode home from Taupo, unfortunately I missed that one - 4 days of an awful lot of countryside passing very very slowly.

All under the radar.

DangerMice
3rd August 2011, 08:16
Would the Yamaha dealer be able to do that for me when I buy the scooter. Just asking... Anything to make a sale? Lol

Derestrict the exhaust? Probably

Jamesnicholasnz
3rd August 2011, 13:29
Derestrict the exhaust? Probably

How much does it cost any ideas

DangerMice
3rd August 2011, 16:15
How much does it cost any ideas

Mine was free. The restriction is like a washer in the exhaust (restricts gas flow), they just didn't put it in, hence free.

D3ALN
3rd August 2011, 16:18
me and my mates ran exhaustless on our scooters never had any problems with police

Jamesnicholasnz
3rd August 2011, 17:08
Mine was free. The restriction is like a washer in the exhaust (restricts gas flow), they just didn't put it in, hence free.

Ok seems pretty simple...(not that I could do it lol).

DMNTD
3rd August 2011, 18:53
Ok seems pretty simple...(not that I could do it lol).

Simply ask the Dealer to remove it after it has been registered....shouldn't cost anything extra either.
Or....ride it up to Tauranga and I'll have a go! :facepalm:

BTW....I'm 6ft and 110kgs and my wee Jog is bang on for what I use it for

Jamesnicholasnz
3rd August 2011, 21:34
Simply ask the Dealer to remove it after it has been registered....shouldn't cost anything extra either.
Or....ride it up to Tauranga and I'll have a go! :facepalm:

BTW....I'm 6ft and 110kgs and my wee Jog is bang on for what I use it for

Lol to riding it up Tauranga. When in go to get one I'll just ask the dealer.
Cheers james