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sharp2183
3rd August 2011, 13:24
I'm considering the unthinkable - selling my Ducati 996 and moving on to something else.
BUT there are very few advertised around New Zealand and I don't know what people are after nowadays. Anyone willing to put forward some values?
The bike is basically mint. I've seen good and bad ones over the last few years. Mine has been the best I've seen. Meticulously maintained etc. Carbon Termignonis, Marchesini lightweight wheels, Ohlins shock/spring, SPS tail, authentic Ducati Performance carbon airbox (big $$), carbon guards, aftermarket triple clamp, rear sets etc. Big service done, basically new tyres blah blah blah.
What do you guys think? Oh and this is not in the for sale section because it is NOT for sale (just in case the moderators get on my case :innocent:). Just want some thoughts.
nodrog
3rd August 2011, 13:46
Around 10k.
Winston001
3rd August 2011, 14:00
Yeah I was thinking $11k with the extras and in great condition. But if I wanted one...probably closer to $10k
imdying
3rd August 2011, 14:42
Non standard 996... gotta be worth 10k?
cs363
3rd August 2011, 15:07
There's two on Trademe, an '00 & '01 - both are asking $12500...
One private one dealer.
I think the other guys are about right, $10K +/- would be a good selling price. Maybe $11K if it's really, really mint.
I think most guys looking at spending more would be looking for an R or SPS, for $11 - $16K you can pick up a tidy 998 or 999 depending on your tastes.
Phreak
3rd August 2011, 15:42
Any chance we can see pics of the bike? I'd love to see it! Have always liked Ducati's, and yours sounds like an amazing machine!
DrunkenMistake
3rd August 2011, 16:08
I think they are valued less than a VFR 400 NC30..
Funnily enough I have one of those, Ill swap you, my loss your gain :shutup::innocent:
Piss take, but I want one :[
sharp2183
3rd August 2011, 18:48
I think they are valued less than a VFR 400 NC30..
Funnily enough I have one of those, Ill swap you, my loss your gain :shutup::innocent:
Piss take, but I want one :[
Haha had one of those. Liked it, but it was too powerful and scary. Actually it was really good, but been there done that.
Wouldn't say the bike is 'non-standard' The bits and pieces that are on it mostly came on it out of a dealership, even though they are not the standard items. E.g. carbon bits, rearsets, termis, triple clamp etc. No flames down the tank or any of that crap. Ducati guys that see it love it. But I take your point.
Will get a pic up soon. Looking to replace with a race bike of some kind (in the 600 or above category) so if anyone has one of them and is interested in a trade then PM me. Ideally I'd like to be able to keep up with an RSV1000R power-wise.
Thanks for all the responses guys!
DMNTD
3rd August 2011, 19:29
Haha had one of those. Liked it, but it was too powerful and scary. Actually it was really good, but been there done that.
Wouldn't say the bike is 'non-standard' The bits and pieces that are on it mostly came on it out of a dealership, even though they are not the standard items. E.g. carbon bits, rearsets, termis, triple clamp etc. No flames down the tank or any of that crap. Ducati guys that see it love it. But I take your point.
Will get a pic up soon. Looking to replace with a race bike of some kind (in the 600 or above category) so if anyone has one of them and is interested in a trade then PM me. Ideally I'd like to be able to keep up with an RSV1000R power-wise.
Thanks for all the responses guys!
How many kms? Generally the "extras" make it easier to sell as opposed to making it worth more....sadly.
I'd pitch it closer to $11k...your extras are the point of difference therefore someone is more likely to choose yours over the others
sharp2183
3rd August 2011, 19:34
How many kms? Generally the "extras" make it easier to sell as opposed to making it worth more....sadly.
I'd pitch it closer to $11k...your extras are the point of difference therefore someone is more likely to choose yours over the others
Oh totally! I'm definately not a 'I just put 5k into my bike therefore it is worth that much more' kind of guy. That loss is just part of owning the bike you love.
24,000 kms, big service done at right time, oil/filter/belt check etc done 500km ago. The 'ready to ride' type of bike.
DMNTD
3rd August 2011, 19:47
24,000 kms, big service done at right time, oil/filter/belt check etc done 500km ago. The 'ready to ride' type of bike.
Advertise it that way, it'll help big time.
Have sold a fair few Duc's and one of the main questions people ask is when the belts/shim/etc were done last. Ensure you have the paperwork and ideally the bike's history too.
Good luck :woohoo:
slowpoke
3rd August 2011, 23:11
Haha had one of those. Liked it, but it was too powerful and scary. Actually it was really good, but been there done that.
Wouldn't say the bike is 'non-standard' The bits and pieces that are on it mostly came on it out of a dealership, even though they are not the standard items. E.g. carbon bits, rearsets, termis, triple clamp etc. No flames down the tank or any of that crap. Ducati guys that see it love it. But I take your point.
Will get a pic up soon. Looking to replace with a race bike of some kind (in the 600 or above category) so if anyone has one of them and is interested in a trade then PM me. Ideally I'd like to be able to keep up with an RSV1000R power-wise.
Thanks for all the responses guys!
Why not just race/track the 996? Parts for the desmoquattro's are cheap nowadays and it's what the things were built for. Clubman's, F1, BEARS/Sound of Thunder etc you'd get a shitload of racing opportunities. It's done bugger all mileage, and already has some good race bits on it so is a great (and cheap!) candidate for a race bike. Gotta be better than taking the hit on purchase vs resale price?
sharp2183
4th August 2011, 08:47
Why not just race/track the 996? Parts for the desmoquattro's are cheap nowadays and it's what the things were built for. Clubman's, F1, BEARS/Sound of Thunder etc you'd get a shitload of racing opportunities. It's done bugger all mileage, and already has some good race bits on it so is a great (and cheap!) candidate for a race bike. Gotta be better than taking the hit on purchase vs resale price?
You're probably right, and I have thought a bit about it. Some of the main reasons I wouldn't is the initial setup cost of fairings/paint, warmers, suspension upgrade tuning etc. There are bikes that come and go for sale that have all of this already done. Then theres just the thought of dumping a mint bike and doing lots of damage.
But I'm open to pursuasion!
748south
4th August 2011, 09:52
Id be happy to swap your 996 for my mint 748! i know, i'm just a really helpfull guy Lol
HenryDorsetCase
4th August 2011, 11:58
I could probably sort out five grand in $100's in an envelope if pressed. quick sale, motivated seller, that sort of thing.
also, dont sell it.
Voltaire
4th August 2011, 13:14
I just moved on from a 900ss ie that I had on Tm for over 6 months.... three offers of swaps that's it. It was dripping with Carbon Fibre and aftemarket goodies too.
Not too many cashed up buyers out there and over 240 Ducatis on TM last time I looked.....which is a few weeks ago as another guy on TM and me did a trade/cash deal. Worked out good for both...he has a modern( ish) sports bike and I have Triumph Thruxton that I'm enjoying a lot.
I can't see myself spending lots on a modern bike again as I'm used to classics that don't depreciate as much.
Good luck with your sale.
johan
4th August 2011, 16:00
You're probably right, and I have thought a bit about it. Some of the main reasons I wouldn't is the initial setup cost of fairings/paint, warmers, suspension upgrade tuning etc. There are bikes that come and go for sale that have all of this already done. Then theres just the thought of dumping a mint bike and doing lots of damage.
But I'm open to pursuasion!
I've got a 996 side fairings, made by 'Just Fairings' if you're after a set?
Also got a box of worn rockers :shutup:
sharp2183
4th August 2011, 18:12
I've got a 996 side fairings, made by 'Just Fairings' if you're after a set?
Also got a box of worn rockers :shutup:
How did you do that??
Is it just the two side sections? 996 or 998 style?
johan
5th August 2011, 15:04
How did you do that??
Is it just the two side sections? 996 or 998 style?
Hi,
they are 996 style side fairings.
I've got the rest but am using them for the 998.
I could use the 996 faring on the 998, but first I would need to relocate the coils or cut away some of the air ducts.
cheers
sharp2183
8th August 2011, 08:42
Hi,
they are 996 style side fairings.
I've got the rest but am using them for the 998.
I could use the 996 faring on the 998, but first I would need to relocate the coils or cut away some of the air ducts.
cheers
I'll have a think. Would prefer to get the whole set if I was to do that, but I may find the other pieces easily.
On another note, anyone know of any good race bikes going at the moment? Tardme has fuck all on it this time of year.
sharp2183
12th August 2011, 09:54
Here's another question guys. Do you think an R6 would be faster around a track than my 996, or an RSVR? Have been looking at pre-built race 600s but dont know if I would like the downgrade in power.
I wont be racing it yet (got the 250 for that) so will just be doing track days for now. Will I find it easier to go fast on than the 996?
Or would it be better to aim towards an 848 or 1098? (not too costly if bringing them in from the US).
nodrog
12th August 2011, 10:08
Here's another question guys. Do you think an R6 would be faster around a track than my 996, or an RSVR? Have been looking at pre-built race 600s but dont know if I would like the downgrade in power.
I wont be racing it yet (got the 250 for that) so will just be doing track days for now. Will I find it easier to go fast on than the 996?
Or would it be better to aim towards an 848 or 1098? (not too costly if bringing them in from the US).
My ZX6r would rip my old 996 and RSVR, you just have to ring its neck instead of relying on the torque of the big twins.
sharp2183
12th August 2011, 10:11
My ZX6r would rip my old 996 and RSVR, you just have to ring its neck instead of relying on the torque of the big twins.
I think I could do that :shifty:. So it was faster everywhere or just the corners?
nodrog
12th August 2011, 10:23
I think I could do that :shifty:. So it was faster everywhere or just the corners?
Faster everywhere, the top end speed is about the same (the RSVR would have had abit more), but I found it takes longer to get there on the twins.
There is little horsepower difference between the 6 and the 996 and rsvr, but there is a huge weight difference.
sharp2183
12th August 2011, 10:31
Faster everywhere, the top end speed is about the same (the RSVR would have had abit more), but I found it takes longer to get there on the twins.
There is little horsepower difference between the 6 and the 996 and rsvr, but there is a huge weight difference.
Thats what I had expected. The R6 appeals to me as a good change as it seems if you keep them way up in the revvs then the speed you can keep is huge.
How about the torque though? Or is that redundant if you ride the 600 full on full time?
nodrog
12th August 2011, 11:40
Thats what I had expected. The R6 appeals to me as a good change as it seems if you keep them way up in the revvs then the speed you can keep is huge.
How about the torque though? Or is that redundant if you ride the 600 full on full time?
Your best bet is to go and test ride a 600, some people like the torque, I do miss it abit on the road (its good for lazy roll on overtaking etc). But I get my jollies from hearing the 600 scream at the redline, and changing gears keeps my left foot nice and skinny.
slowpoke
13th August 2011, 04:42
My ZX6r would rip my old 996 and RSVR, you just have to ring its neck instead of relying on the torque of the big twins.
I dunno, the arse dyno is notoriously unreliable. I had an old VTR1000F that was kitted out with HRC cams, HRC carb kit, opened up airbox, full zorst, yada yada and took it in for a dyno tune. The thing felt slower afterwards than before! WTF?! Looking at the dyno curves and "before" had a huge flat spot in the mid range and kicked like a mothefucker once it cleared it's lungs at about the 7krpm mark. Fill that in and give it a much flatter delivery and it lost the feeling of the "kick" although it actually had more power everywhere.
The twins are also normally geared for the moon stock, which doesn't help. I seriously doubt my 916SP could have actually pulled redline in 6th. Shorten up the gearing and it was different story, transforming the bike. A Nichols flywheel, and 50mm full system just made a good thing even gooderer.
The old brembo's are still good enough with decent pads so you're stuck comparing peaky light weight vs grunty heavy weight.
But realistically, if you are starting out the actual bike is a much smaller part of the equation than the rider is. You could do like I did and pick up a high spec superbike and you will still get your arse handed to you on a plate (like I have, lol) by guys on far inferior machines. Just ride what you like and get stuck in regardless.
sharp2183
18th August 2011, 08:45
I dunno, the arse dyno is notoriously unreliable. I had an old VTR1000F that was kitted out with HRC cams, HRC carb kit, opened up airbox, full zorst, yada yada and took it in for a dyno tune. The thing felt slower afterwards than before! WTF?! Looking at the dyno curves and "before" had a huge flat spot in the mid range and kicked like a mothefucker once it cleared it's lungs at about the 7krpm mark. Fill that in and give it a much flatter delivery and it lost the feeling of the "kick" although it actually had more power everywhere.
The twins are also normally geared for the moon stock, which doesn't help. I seriously doubt my 916SP could have actually pulled redline in 6th. Shorten up the gearing and it was different story, transforming the bike. A Nichols flywheel, and 50mm full system just made a good thing even gooderer.
The old brembo's are still good enough with decent pads so you're stuck comparing peaky light weight vs grunty heavy weight.
But realistically, if you are starting out the actual bike is a much smaller part of the equation than the rider is. You could do like I did and pick up a high spec superbike and you will still get your arse handed to you on a plate (like I have, lol) by guys on far inferior machines. Just ride what you like and get stuck in regardless.
Well I do like the Ducati more. But for a track only bike to race in the future? I would need to spend about 5k on it to get it up to speed. Or a 600 prebuilt with everything for the selling price of the Duke....
Plus I guess at the end of the day I would prefer to go faster easier on a 600, if it were possible to do so.
Straight line speed I do like the twins and have not normally struggled to stick with 600s on track days etc. But I havn't really played around with any modified race ones so who knows.
sharp2183
29th August 2011, 15:18
Well it looks like it might be that time. The bike will probably be superseeded in a week or so and will be up for sale then. Anyone want a mint 996?
245781
nodrog
29th August 2011, 16:18
Anyone want a mint 996?
is it free?
sharp2183
29th August 2011, 16:45
If it comes with a big tip?
nodrog
29th August 2011, 16:51
If it comes with a big tip?
Stink, I've only got a little tip.
sharp2183
29th August 2011, 17:37
Stink, I've only got a little tip.
Kiwi little or Europe little?
Dodgy_Matt
29th August 2011, 18:10
Kiwi little or Europe little?
Asian Little?
sharp2183
29th August 2011, 22:44
Asian Little?
We all know that Asian little just isn't going to satisfy anyone.
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