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HenryDorsetCase
4th August 2011, 11:55
.............until you leave them on and the bike unattended, flatten your battery, fail at bump starting, and have to call the cavalry.
Might change the wiring so that the fucking things are through a relay and will only go when the ignition is on.
Or I could, you know, get a clue.
slofox
4th August 2011, 11:58
.............until you leave them on and the bike unattended, flatten your battery, fail at bump starting, and have to call the cavalry.
Might change the wiring so that the fucking things are through a relay and will only go when the ignition is on.
Or I could, you know, get a clue.
The relay is more reliable than getting a clue - if you are anything like me anyway...:weird:
Big Dave
4th August 2011, 11:59
You just have to be smarter than the switch.
Some Harley ones are switched on/in the bar end. They switch off with the power - but are very easy to inadvertently turn on while riding on a hot day. Talk about sweaty palms.
p.dath
4th August 2011, 12:10
Get the relay, or wait for it to happen again ...
willytheekid
4th August 2011, 12:25
.............until you leave them on and the bike unattended, flatten your battery, fail at bump starting, and have to call the cavalry.
Might change the wiring so that the fucking things are through a relay and will only go when the ignition is on.
Or I could, you know, get a clue.
:facepalm:...bugger!
Ive been thinking about getting some of those "old man" grips as well :yes:....but a bit worried about the italian electrics holding up to the added drain, and like you, the correct way to wire them up is a concern (with out getting flat batteries or damaging the loom)
...Might just have to pay someone to do it for me properly :shit: ....I hate paying people to do shit I "should" be able to do myself...but when it comes to the sparky bits, best I leave it to the pros.
ukusa
4th August 2011, 13:08
.............until you leave them on and the bike unattended, flatten your battery, fail at bump starting, and have to call the cavalry.
Might change the wiring so that the fucking things are through a relay and will only go when the ignition is on.
Or I could, you know, get a clue.
mine are wired through the headlight, so only go when key is on
Maha
4th August 2011, 13:43
.............until you leave them on and the bike unattended, flatten your battery, fail at bump starting, and have to call the cavalry.
Might change the wiring so that the fucking things are through a relay and will only go when the ignition is on.
..:blink:......:facepalm:
Why the hell were they not installed that way in the first place?
HenryDorsetCase
4th August 2011, 13:49
..:blink:......:facepalm:
Why the hell were they not installed that way in the first place?
no idea. bought the bike with them on. but yeah.
Maha
4th August 2011, 13:54
no idea. bought the bike with them on. but yeah.
A recent purchase?...
If so your insurance company needs to add that to your policy (if it hasn't been done already) its a modification that has damage potential.
HenryDorsetCase
4th August 2011, 14:20
A recent purchase?...
If so your insurance company needs to add that to your policy (if it hasn't been done already) its a modification that has damage potential.
especially once I get busy with the soldering iron!!
(nah, I'll get my mate the electrician to do it, in exchange for beer. mmmm beeeer)
Owl
4th August 2011, 17:22
..:blink:......:facepalm:
Why the hell were they not installed that way in the first place?
Cause the instructions say otherwise. I had mine connected directly to the battery and never had an issue. I only wired them through a relay because I wanted to hard-wire my GPS.
neels
4th August 2011, 17:48
Just wire them from the headlight circuit, only goes when the ignition is on.
banditrider
4th August 2011, 18:24
Another suggestion is to visit a forum specific to your bike type as someone will have come up with an easy solution.
To run all the electrical doo-dads on my V-Strom (GPS, grips, accessory socket) I fitted a fuse-box which was essentially plug and play. No splicing of wires was necessary and I've got both switched and unswitched power available from the fuse-box.
Mully
4th August 2011, 18:33
If so your insurance company needs to add that to your policy (if it hasn't been done already) its a modification that has damage potential.
Eh?
That's news to me. Mind you, I got the mechanic to install them when the bike was being serviced.
Arrowolf
4th August 2011, 19:15
Yea,the old man grips are very good at this time of the year. if they work properly.
My Bike is at the shop right now,because of a flat battery, because of a faulty control unit.Was not possible to switch them off.All time heating in highest position. Almost impossible to ride the bike, backed hands haha. But Queenstown Motorcycles fixed it, and i can pick up my baby tomorrow. Hope it is still warranty,because Oxford knows about that fault in the control unit.
Stay warm and on the road.
Wolfgang
Maha
4th August 2011, 20:42
Eh?
That's news to me. Mind you, I got the mechanic to install them when the bike was being serviced.
I bought Anne some for her birthday and had them installed by a mechanic also.
She rang her insurance company to let them know of the modification to her bike (just so that it was on record, you know how insurance company's are) and they said it was an excepted modification but thanks for letting them know...
Just a case of covering ones rectum one might say.
malfunconz
4th August 2011, 21:03
yeh they are bloody awesome . An old mate of mine used to blah blah blah on them . That was till i got a pair and id never go back without em . Heres to you cloggy
Mom
4th August 2011, 21:19
Might change the wiring so that the fucking things are through a relay and will only go when the ignition is on.
Or I could, you know, get a clue.
Easy mistake to make, with a DYO job...
No hope for 2nd owner to know unless told.
Talk about sweaty palms.
Maha bought me heated grips for my birthday, weird things! Easy to be too hot, and be really horrible to ride with, BUT..
The most wonderful things in the dead of foggy, cold, wet commute for me. I actually find them too hot sometimes, and am entertained finding the exact temperature. Set out at this temp, adjust them up a notch in this patch of road, TURN THEM DOWN here! Best of all, I arrive at work with hands that function, and dont have the burning sensation from hell as they warm up, I dont have chill blains either, thanks darling :love:
Eh? That's news to me. Mind you, I got the mechanic to install them when the bike was being serviced.
So did I, good money spent.
riffer
4th August 2011, 21:44
The RF has hotgrips, and so does the Bandit.
Living in Upper Hutt you really need them.
I loves them!
baffa
5th August 2011, 10:07
I'm a recent convert too. I was considering wiring them into the ignition via relay, but after noticing the amount of strain they put on a poor 250cc bike's charging circuit, I've developed the habit of only turning them on when I've been riding for a few minutes and turning them off when im 5 mins away from my destination.
Dont wire them straight into your headlight or ignition use a relay, spesh if you have a smaller bike. I can imagine that amount of current drain could easily blow a fuse and leave you stranded.
hellokitty
5th August 2011, 12:27
I love mine and have had them installed at the bike shop and they turn off with the ignition as I would never remember to turn them off. The control is tucked away down the side of the bike as it would have looked so tacky on the top, so I can't change the temperature control while I am riding which is a pain but the bonus is that I am not looking at it all the time thinking how gross it looks as I used to with the Honda.
I even use them on a low heat in Spring and Autumn - stops my sad little left hand seizing up.
HenryDorsetCase
5th August 2011, 14:25
the little box is fugly agreed.
Ive been thinking I might buy some bar risers rather than new bars. that would give me the lift I need (I have stupid T Rex Arms: the dinosaur, not Mard Bolan) and I wouldnt have to fuck with anything else (as long as theres enough slack in the cables.
anyone got any recommendations?
ckai
17th August 2011, 10:47
So anyone want to draw a diagram and give a special person instructions on the type of relay to acquire and how to install?
It'll be nest to tell a 4 year old what to draw and the instructions so I can understand them :)
I've always caught myself leaving my grips on in time so haven't had any problems. Either that or the nice chap at the bike shop has turned them off for me...
I thought I might look at throwing in a relay instead of taping into an existing circuit since I ride a Trumpy. And everyone knows Brits are unsure of themselves when it comes to things that spark.
I've tried finding some info but some people make it sound like rocket science.
dogsnbikes
17th August 2011, 11:45
So anyone want to draw a diagram and give a special person instructions on the type of relay to acquire and how to install?
It'll be nest to tell a 4 year old what to draw and the instructions so I can understand them :)
I've always caught myself leaving my grips on in time so haven't had any problems. Either that or the nice chap at the bike shop has turned them off for me...
I thought I might look at throwing in a relay instead of taping into an existing circuit since I ride a Trumpy. And everyone knows Brits are unsure of themselves when it comes to things that spark.
I've tried finding some info but some people make it sound like rocket science.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/141029-Anyone-had-a-cigarette-socket-put-on-there-bike-how-and-how-much?
Slofox has posted a link to a diagram
ckai
17th August 2011, 13:43
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/141029-Anyone-had-a-cigarette-socket-put-on-there-bike-how-and-how-much?
Slofox has posted a link to a diagram
haha, cheers, I actually stumbled across that 5 mins ago. Might try and work out how to do it without the distribution block though...maybe...if I can be assed...which I generally can't.
Thanks muchly
baffa
17th August 2011, 15:00
Bike now has a relay in place, courtesy of a mate.
Thought it was buggered when we fully wired it up, because the control unit just flashed at us. So with a fair bit of cursing and googling and pulling bits apart we discovered the system was just warning us there wasnt enough voltage in the battery to run the grips. Fired up the bike and she was sweet.
Spoke to someone who works at a Suzuki and Triumph shop and he says they always wire straight into the headlights. So a relay is probably overkill, but either way works.
Berg
17th August 2011, 16:36
Have fitted four sets for folks in the last few months. Always wire in with a relay when I do them. Mrs Berg's ER6n also has Barkbuster "storm" guards which allow the heated grips to work even better. They keep the wind off the back of the hands and away from the fingertips.
All I have to do is find a way to make them look better on the "Z". Might just chuck them on for the cold months and remove for summer.
And, as for "bar raisers" Mr Henrydorsetcase, I put them on the ER as Mrs Berg also suffers from short arm syndrome. Worked a treat bringing the bars up and back
Corse1
17th August 2011, 17:20
Ive just put them on the bike that doesnt have any rego til summer:confused:
Mom
17th August 2011, 18:29
Or I could, you know, get a clue.
:doh: I LOVE mine :love: I even have to turn them down :violin: It takes some getting used to having warm hands when you are used to them being cold. Norf-girls blouse-cold of course :laugh:
Eh?
That's news to me. Mind you, I got the mechanic to install them when the bike was being serviced.
The fine print says you need to notify of any modification from standard. Dont give the pricks any excuse to turn down a claim.
I notified mine, the chick noted it, thanked me, and then informed me the premium was unchanged :shit: FFS!
ynot slow
17th August 2011, 19:00
Typical get a set for xmas,got them fitted via front brake switch,then traded bike in,so new bike just has to have them lol,bloody good they are.:Punk:
dogsnbikes
17th August 2011, 19:15
Installed some on the XT the other day( for the sole purpose off testing them too see if they would be ok on Melissa's bike:innocent:)
So riding too Wgtn today was a good test and they seem too work rather well considering the weather conditions.....now I have too test them again in two weeks time when I ride back too Wanganui as it will be a night ride
Berg
17th August 2011, 20:30
Installed some on the XT the other day( for the sole purpose off testing them too see if they would be ok on Melissa's bike:innocent:)
So riding too Wgtn today was a good test and they seem too work rather well considering the weather conditions.....now I have too test them again in two weeks time when I ride back too Wanganui as it will be a night ride
Respect to ya for riding into Wellington today:not:. The weather was bloody awful:cold: so I take my hat off to ya
MD
17th August 2011, 22:54
I've recently discovered that hand guards are a better investment than heated grips. The number of bikes I've fitted grips to over the years and then the next owner reaps the benefit!
I intended to fit grips to the Tiger when winter arrived but haven't bothered. No need when the guards deflect the wind and rain so well. The guards didn't require any wiring either. Maybe they are battery powered?
banditrider
18th August 2011, 17:43
I've recently discovered that hand guards are a better investment than heated grips. The number of bikes I've fitted grips to over the years and then the next owner reaps the benefit!
I intended to fit grips to the Tiger when winter arrived but haven't bothered. No need when the guards deflect the wind and rain so well. The guards didn't require any wiring either. Maybe they are battery powered?
I have both on the DL - sheer luxury!
PrincessBandit
20th August 2011, 09:30
I've recently discovered that hand guards are a better investment than heated grips. The number of bikes I've fitted grips to over the years and then the next owner reaps
Yeah, I've been meaning to get in touch with Pixie again after contacting him some time ago regarding guards. I have heated grips and have left them on once after getting off the bike - went back later in the day thinking Oh crap, but bike started fine. Maybe my bandit is just a tough wee thing, or maybe it just loves me so wouldn't leave me stranded like that...<_<
Anyways, I think I'd go for both grips and guards. My palms are lovely and warm but the upperside of my fingers still get fwozened.
Blackshear
20th August 2011, 10:32
They work really well if your battery is fucked. Bike running or not :mellow:
MarkH
20th August 2011, 14:49
..:blink:......:facepalm:
Why the hell were they not installed that way in the first place?
Yeah, I wonder about anyone fitting Hot Grips and not using a relay. If they can be accidentally left on then at some point they WILL be accidentally left on.
Another problem is that lead acid batteries don't like being completely discharged, it shortens their life by quite a bit every time you do it - so leaving the grips on and flattening your battery means you will find yourself up for the cost of a new battery much sooner than you would have otherwise been. I think that the relay would pay for itself pretty darn quickly when you consider how dear the batteries are and how cheap the relays are.
Blackshear
20th August 2011, 16:16
Running them flat etc
Yeah, battery was already a bit fuckerd on my bandit, accidentally left them on one night and now when I try starting my bike I just get the click of a relay now :laugh:
Push-starting for 4 weeks now fussin russin...
Old Steve
20th August 2011, 20:02
Just had hot grips fitted to GLORIA, which has been good for her. I used to just hop on, fire her up and ride off. Now I start her up on the sidestand, turn the hot grips on, leave her running while I put on my jacket, helmet and gloves, then when her engine and the hot grips are nice and hot I ride away. I've got into the habit of turning them off before I turn the engine off.
I've got the Oxford ones with the couloured light display. I usually run with them on the lowest setting - the blue light. Though I did crank them up to the second setting - the orange light - for part of the Ulysses Club Rememberance Ride to Taupo last weekend.
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