Bomb range ride today 6.08.11 [Archive]

Ktmboy

6th August 2011, 17:12

Ha ha. Good luck on the powerful KDX I'm sure it will be heaps of fun for you.

Lets get one thing straight. We don't promote or encourage beach and Bomber riding as technically it is against the law and all it does for us is open up a big can of worms ("oh we only came back thru the forestry on your tracks because the tide was in, and, we had to cut the fence...can you come and pick up our bikes we've broken down...").
And that is the main reason! They end up riding illegally and we keep having head ons in forest tracks were they shouldn't be.

If they want to get a ticket for $800 from the cops or get blown up then good on ya.

We had a request to help two guys on Monday. They had been to the Range and got caught by the tide on the way back.
They walked back and by the time they got back to their bikes they were gone. Either stolen or the tide got them.

Result 20k down the gurgler and no insurance as they weren't registered etc etc.

Funny thing was they asked us to help. Get fucked, ask the cops:shutup:

If you parked in a beach car park today either Muriwai, Rimmer Rd or anywhere else chances are that the law will have got your rego and you will get a warning letter. Next time they (the Police, not us) trespass.

barty5

6th August 2011, 17:31

Ha ha. Good luck on the powerful KDX I'm sure it will be heaps of fun for you.

Lets get one thing straight. We don't promote or encourage beach and Bomber riding as technically it is against the law and all it does for us is open up a big can of worms ("oh we only came back thru the forestry on your tracks because the tide was in, and, we had to cut the fence...can you come and pick up our bikes we've broken down...").
And that is the main reason! They end up riding illegally and we keep having head ons in forest tracks were they shouldn't be.

If they want to get a ticket for $800 from the cops or get blown up then good on
ya.

We had a request to help two guys on Monday. They had been to the Range and got caught by the tide on the way back.
They walked back and by the time they got back to their bikes they were gone. Either stolen or the tide got them.

Result 20k down the gurgler and no insurance as they weren't registered etc etc.

Funny thing was they asked us to help. Get fucked, ask the cops:shutup:

If you parked in a beach car park today either Muriwai, Rimmer Rd or anywhere else chances are that the law will have got your rego and you will get a warning letter. Next time they (the Police, not us) trespass.

Wow mint sound like a great place to go sign me up lol bunch a losers that go up there oh look at me up a dune then down amazing skill require to ride there. (as long as your arse dont get handed to you from a left over live round )

Ktmboy

6th August 2011, 17:37

Your car rego and name has just been passed to us from the law.
Alicher, you and Ryan may be able to do this in South Africa but not in NZ. Obey the freakin law of the land!

Best you sort your act out!

Honda136

6th August 2011, 18:45

Congratulations glukasil, you are a fuckwit. I have limited ability and I'll be the first to admit that. Yet, I'm still not stupid enough to go to the bombing range. Only knob heads and bashers go up there.

I hope you get fined.

buffstar

6th August 2011, 23:52

IIIRII

7th August 2011, 11:02

C'mon
Is this "darwin award" territory or what .....

I laughed ...........

Taz

7th August 2011, 15:06

I've been to the bombing range once. But it was legally on a Kiwi Rider adventure ride, was windy as hell that day and the XT600 struggled a little. Could easily see how two bikes could come together over a crest there. Stick to designated riding areas guys.

telliman

8th August 2011, 18:02

tough crowd!!, there is some cool stuff up there, its a shame ya cant ride there anymore!

racefactory

8th August 2011, 22:22

Deary me- what's the big deal here exactly? Never had a problem there. Went there the other day actually- yes my bike is registered and wof'd but all the guys I ride with aren't and they couldn't care less. Life's too short.

Rupe

8th August 2011, 22:33

What's the big deal here exactly? Just go if you've got the chance and fuck the law. Went there the other day- yes my bike is registered and wof'd but all the guys I ride with aren't and we couldn't care less.

It's an area that has drawn unwanted attention from authorities. If it becomes an area that is getting used far too much and drawing too much attention the whole of woodhill could become a no go zone (includes bike park). The local authority would police the whole area strongly and fuck Aucklands best riding resource and local businesses relying on it.

Posting on a public website forum, to encourage others to ride illegally up there is not the brightest thing ever done.

racefactory

8th August 2011, 22:40

Yes well guys cutting back through the bike park, causing accidents and then expecting pick up is a whole different issue- and that's pretty fucking unscrupulous if you ask me. We'd never do such a thing.

Jay GTI

9th August 2011, 08:30

Pretty fucking unscruplious to ride in an area that is well known to be illegal, is closely monitored by the cops and which is giving dirt bikers a bad name by people riding there with a big 'fuck you' attitude.

But yeah life is too short to care about the rest of the dirt biking community that might have some interest in keeping a good positive public image of the off-road riding scene in NZ. I'ts not like anyone would want to develop the industry or anything, it's far more fun to have to fight to keep what we have, against councils and members of the public who just think we're a bunch of reckless wank stains that ride where ever the hell we want and fuck anyone who disagrees.

racefactory

9th August 2011, 11:31

That's why I ride there with a wof and reg. If other people want to risk the fines then that's their decision to make. If anything it's a decent source of revenue for the popo?

BoristheBiter

9th August 2011, 14:28

That's why I ride there with a wof and reg. If other people want to risk the fines then that's their decision to make. If anything it's a decent source of revenue for the popo.

Its still illegal to ride there with a wof and reg.

It just like when we are on the hunting blocks and some fuckhead rides though the middle of them. Fuck i wish we could use them as target practice.

del-solider

9th August 2011, 16:04

Its still illegal to ride there with a wof and reg.

It just like when we are on the hunting blocks and some fuckhead rides though the middle of them. Fuck i wish we could use them as target practice.

:clap: Amen!!

oldskool

9th August 2011, 19:08

C'mon guys whats with all the anger and angst? I'd like to think we're not all red necks in Auckland?

racefactory

9th August 2011, 19:19

BoristheBiter

9th August 2011, 19:55

Since when?

Gee let me think.........

Since it is not public land, so like any private land you need permission to be there.

The whole of woodhill forest is private land and the land owners let the public cross it so to access the beach or at times let others hire it out for recreational activities.

buffstar

9th August 2011, 20:14

It's an area that has drawn unwanted attention from authorities. If it becomes an area that is getting used far too much and drawing too much attention the whole of woodhill could become a no go zone (includes bike park). The local authority would police the whole area strongly and fuck Aucklands best riding resource and local businesses relying on it.

Posting on a public website forum, to encourage others to ride illegally up there is not the brightest thing ever done.

I thought this was all common knowledge? WTF? I mean yeah if you are new to dirtbiking you may need to be informed - as I was via KB :facepalm:
But the majority of peeps who I know of who ride the bomber just dont give a fuck and are therefore dickheads - apart from the ones who are cocksmokers.

This is in no way directed at you racefactory - just a generalisation.

random rider

9th August 2011, 20:28

Since when?

The big Yellow Signs at the start of the road and then all the way inside saying DEFENCE FORCE LAND :facepalm:- if you stop to read the sign anyone from the NZDF can stop and ask you for ID and reason for being there. If you have no permission you can be arrested and fined ....heavily.

One of my closest friends is a "bomb person" (can't remember the technical term) and there are unexploded bombs in the area and grenades. NO JOKE. They find the old one's regularly and have to deal to them.:shit: If someone is in there and they hit one of those things what do you think the PC brigade will do then????

That area is private land - please don't ruin our reputation in the area or risk us losing the bike park cos you want to ride up and down a sand dune.......

I don't care what your reason is don't do it......

nathanwhite

9th August 2011, 20:59

there are unexploded bombs in the area and grenades. NO JOKE. They find the old one's regularly and have to deal to them.:shit: If someone is in there and they hit one of those things what do you think the PC brigade will do then????

My dad was in the air force and was regularly there blowing stuff up. He says they used to tell people there was unexploded ordinance lying around, but that was seldom the case. If they were expecting something to go bang and it didn't, they dug it up again and made it go bang. He has a photo of guys standing in/around a 30ft crater dug to get an unexploded bomb back. Had it had gone off then, the funnel shape of the ground would have wiped them all out. :shit:
It does seem uncharacteristically irresponsible for the military to leave live ordinance lying around.

That area is private land - please don't ruin our reputation in the area or risk us losing the bike park cos you want to ride up and down a sand dune.......

However I totally agree here, it is defense force land, stay away.

random rider

9th August 2011, 21:50

It does seem uncharacteristically irresponsible for the military to leave live ordinance lying around.

However I totally agree here, it is defense force land, stay away.

There is a sky hawke bomb that got dropped in the 70's that is missing. They never recovered. Most things now are found and then blown up.
However the Americans stored old stuff up there and just covered it up with sand....not sure I really like that sort of roulette :innocent:

But agree with the Stay Away part

takitimu

9th August 2011, 23:13

M
It does seem uncharacteristically irresponsible for the military to leave live ordinance lying around.

That would be a military that has members who drive tanks into officers mess's & other assorted chaotic things :), whilst I actually agree they are responsible nowadays, 30+ years ago I'm be alot less convinced.

It just seems to me riding somewhere that bombs have been dropped for a very long time is one day not going to work out well for somebody.

L Rider

10th August 2011, 10:58

Alot of the people who ride there are military. If the DF want to crack down on it then perhaps they should look a little closer to home

oldskool

10th August 2011, 13:20

One of the Key Issues identified by RDC and it's recommendation: To address a code of behaviour to individuals who use the resources.

If you care to read the attached document it talks about the bomb range, off-road recreational vehicles, bomb-range activity notification, who has management rights on what part of crown land, public access rights on which roads and more.

Key Issues/Opportunity
Access through forest is often closed due to forestry operations need
for formal agreement in place between Rodney District and CHH which
guides management of public access in line with the easement.

Ecological values and conflicts
Papakanui Spit and in the bombing range area where 4WD access is
impacting on native birdlife including threatened species.

Poor signage/ interpretation, lack of clear direction for users

High community priority for better public access

Bombing range use likely to continue

Toilets recently removed due to vandalism but need for facilities due
to high usage

Increasing motorised recreation use need for formal agreements
code of behaviour to be developed with clubs includes fishing clubs South Head Forest.
244339244338

BoristheBiter

10th August 2011, 14:06

the owner of the Crown Forest Licence are Hancock Forest Management Limited not CHH.

Jay GTI

10th August 2011, 14:26

Increasing motorised recreation use need for formal agreements
code of behaviour to be developed with clubs includes fishing clubs South Head Forest.

I would assume this is reference to legitimate, legal motorised recreational use, not a bunch of scrotes on dirt bikes.

oldskool

10th August 2011, 15:33

I would assume this is reference to legitimate, legal motorised recreational use, not a bunch of scrotes on dirt bikes.

I see it as encouraging and educating all fellow enthusiasts as to where they can ride in order to preserve our ecologically delicate backyard.

Jay GTI

10th August 2011, 16:40

I see it as encouraging and educating all fellow enthusiasts as to where they can ride in order to preserve our ecologically delicate backyard.

Yep, just I'd assume this encouragment and engagement applies to the fellow enthusiats with WOF'd and reg'd bikes and educating them to their responsibilities when using legal access roads to ride legally on the beach and surrounding areas. And not that they will politely inform some knuckle-dragger on a clapped out old RM250 that he shouldn't be wheelying through some tussock area because of nesting birds, who will instead be encouraged and educated through warnings, fines and tresspass notices...

BoristheBiter

10th August 2011, 19:39

Yep, just I'd assume this encouragment and engagement applies to the fellow enthusiats with WOF'd and reg'd bikes and educating them to their responsibilities when using legal access roads to ride legally on the beach and surrounding areas. And not that they will politely inform some knuckle-dragger on a clapped out old RM250 that he shouldn't be wheelying through some tussock area because of nesting birds, who will instead be encouraged and educated through warnings, fines and tresspass notices...

And the occasional warning shot from hunters:innocent:

racefactory

10th August 2011, 21:20

I see. The times I've been there we didn't take the beach car park or Rimmer road, but some other way with a hidden away little house and lake? The people were sweet about it though. I've also never seen scary signs or anything of the like...

Creeps, anyone know what the fines are then?

EXCDirt

11th August 2011, 10:52

I assume you would get fines for being an unregistered unwarranted vehicle which is about $200 a piece. I'm sure the military can do a bit more like impounding your bike and arresting you.
Then Hancock forest management can trespass notice you which means you can't go to the bike park for 2 years or do any events at woodhill fullstop.

I have noticed the 4wds really cain the crap out of the whole place and that's probably not really good for the environment.
Plus add some redneck hunters with trigger happy fingers and it's quite the recipe for disaster.

I would think it's well policed on the weekends otherwise the Armed forces would be using it during the weekdays.

It would be good to have the odd trailride that went up that far. Jolly Rooster is an awesome ride up in that area.
I think there is a ride coming up at the end of October 2 days up at south head with overnight camping etc. Sounds fun.

BoristheBiter

11th August 2011, 12:06

Plus add some redneck hunters with trigger happy fingers and it's quite the recipe for disaster.

I think you find they are called poachers and they are just as bad. The hunting up there is all balloted. It still does not stop riders entering the hunting blocks.

I had just shot a deer and some fucktard comes flying around the corner see's us and fucks off real quick. My bullets go straight through a little deer like that and he wood have been very close to the firing line but it would have still been my fault if he got hit.

Mind you he was by himself and it easy to dig a bullet out and the pigs would clean it up PDQ.

barty5

11th August 2011, 13:36

I think you find they are called poachers and they are just as bad. The hunting up there is all balloted. It still does not stop riders entering the hunting blocks.

I had just shot a deer and some fucktard comes flying around the corner see's us and fucks off real quick. My bullets go straight through a little deer like that and he wood have been very close to the firing line but it would have still been my fault if he got hit.

Mind you he was by himself and it easy to dig a bullet out and the pigs would clean it up PDQ.

Extra bonus would have been a spare bike lol

BoristheBiter

11th August 2011, 14:34

Extra bonus would have been a spare bike lol

Yer, would have saved having to carry it back to the car.

fastoyz

11th August 2011, 21:24

Ive had some of my best rides up at the bombing range if the wind/weather has been good, if you no were the right spots are there are some pretty decent jumps to be found its not all riding up & down a sand dune. Even the army boys we have occasionally run across have never cared just ask that we stay away from the areas they are practising there drills.

Its a hell of a lot more fun in the right conditions than riding some gay trails at the sandpit!