Buying a helmet in NZ, then taking back home to Aus...

[shonofear]

hey,
been searching net for last few hours about the safety standards with motorcycle helmets in both NZ/AUS.
currently working in Auckland and about to buy a 250cc bike and wanted to get a helmet that i could take home and use quiet easily.
so i really need a helmet thats already got the AS/NZ 1698 sticker, but seems lots of the helmets in NZ are UN/ECE Regulation No. 22. way more easy on standards over here which is great, but a hassle to take back home to Oz.

Any tips, ideas if some shops get their helmets from Australia already with the AS/NZS stickers?

cheers

[YellowDog]

What does the VTAU say?

VTNZ is happy with NZ/AU/US/EU/JPN standards.

OR just get onto eBay.com.au to buy an Aussie one :yes:

[steve_t]

ECE 22-05 is approved for use in NZ and AU AFAIK

[shonofear]

ECE 22-05 is approved for use in NZ and AU AFAIK

mmm having trouble finding info on that for Aus.
may just buy 1 online in Oz and get it shipped over.

cheers

[FJRider]

I have never heard of ANYBODY ever getting their helmet checked for standards complience ... just buy a quality helmet that FITS you ..

[steve_t]

mmm having trouble finding info on that for Aus.
may just buy 1 online in Oz and get it shipped over.

cheers

Might be cheaper that way anyway. Funny cos I just checked my Shoei and I can't see an compliance sticker on it. My old FFM from a NZ retailer has an E4 symbol saying it's certified to meet ECE 22-05 standards in Luxemburg :sunny:

[pritch]

I have never heard of ANYBODY ever getting their helmet checked for standards complience ...

Well here you are...

Happened to me a few months back when the :Police: were doing their little blitz on bikes. The :Police: asked me to take my helmet off and rummaged around inside it with obviously no idea what he was doing.

If my helmet had looked like something left over from WWII I could have understood, but it was a Shoei in nice condition. I'd have been extremely reluctant to hand him one of my expensive hats.

[FJRider]

Well here you are...

Happened to me a few months back when the :Police: were doing their little blitz on bikes. The :Police: asked me to take my helmet off and rummaged around inside it with obviously no idea what he was doing.

If my helmet had looked like something left over from WWII I could have understood, but it was a Shoei in nice condition. I'd have been extremely reluctant to hand him one of my expensive hats.

Maybe it was your FACE he wanted to check out ...

[Madness]

My old Shark helmet came with the AU standards label. Good helmets too - provided it fits your noggin well, of course.

[shonofear]

yea they do check ya helmets more in Oz, heard Melbourne is the worst case though. quiet a few threads on Netriders about the whole standards thing and how Aus is probably the more serious about it. Guys a=were actually just buying the stickers and wacking them on imported helmets, think also needs to be sewn into insides as well.
yea, those Sharks def are the goods. any medium helmet should fit my head. found a few good websites with hald decent sales going on.
http://www.bikebiz.com.au/products/Shark-RSR2-V%252b-Carbon-Dual-Matt-Helmet.html
chow

[Hitcher]

You're going to Australia. The standards compliance rating for helmets isn't the issue. Nor is the reality that you can buy exactly the same helmets here as you can there.

The issue is the Australian Standards compliance sticker. If your helmet hasn't got one of those affixed, then potentially you're in big trouble if the constabulary apprehending you is feeling a bit sniffy or besotted with compliance. It's unlikely you would get stopped for a helmet check but not beyond the realms of possibility that once stopped for some other reason your Kiwi-bought helmet gets checked and failed because it hasn't got a little chrome sticker on it.

Argue until you're blue that your lid meets exactly the same standards as its Australian counterpart. If it hasn't got that sticker, you're shut out of luck.

[Owl]

you're shut out of luck.

Is that a typo Hitcher?:shit:

[Hitcher]

Is that a typo Hitcher?

Not this side of the dutch.

[Pussy]

You're going to Australia. The standards compliance rating for helmets isn't the issue. Nor is the reality that you can buy exactly the same helmets here as you can there.

The issue is the Australian Standards compliance sticker. If your helmet hasn't got one of those affixed, then potentially you're in big trouble if the constabulary apprehending you is feeling a bit sniffy or besotted with compliance. It's unlikely you would get stopped for a helmet check but not beyond the realms of possibility that once stopped for some other reason your Kiwi-bought helmet gets checked and failed because it hasn't got a little chrome sticker on it.

Argue until you're blue that your lid meets exactly the same standards as its Australian counterpart. If it hasn't got that sticker, you're shut out of luck.

Hutcher is dead right! No chrome compliance sticker... no legal in Oz

[pritch]

Maybe it was your FACE he wanted to check out ...

Nah - Fat bastard on a moped?

When I took the hat off the sgt saw who it was and came over for a chat. They were checking standards but had no idea what they were looking for.

Guess someone had thought checking standard stickers was a good idea at some meeting of the underemployed?

[grbaker]

Bang on. Oz standards are tight. They ignore all other standards like ECE or TUV or DOT.

You can only buy a AS/NZ 1968 certified helmet in Oz and the cops can order you off the road if you do not have one.

That also cover visors too (I have a helmet purchased in Oz with the Red/Silver sticker on the visor as well).

There are a few helmet brands you can buy here with the Ozzy sticker if you want (Nolan jump to mind)

[shonofear]

There are a few helmet brands you can buy here with the Ozzy sticker if you want (Nolan jump to mind)
yea, where abouts?
got a quote for $65- bucks to ship a helmet over from Oz (not sure if that was AU dollar or NZ)
may just buy an el'cheapo to get me by over here then give it away with the bike when it comes to sell...

[SPman]

If you are wearing a helmet that is identical to those sold elsewhere in the world and has an Oz sticker when sold in Oz, then you're OK. (this has been done to death on the local forums)
I wear helmets with US stickers and have never had a hassle - the insurance paid out on an Arai that got munted, even though it was bought in NZ and didn't have an Aus sticker.

The only trouble you'll have is, as Mr H says, if you get a copper having a down on bikes (that happens a lot, over here) and he probably won't know what he's talking about, anyway. Few of them over here seem to.........

[steve_t]

Could you just say the chrome sticker lost its stickiness due to your sweat and with washing the lining and then eventually fell out? :shifty:

[rphenix]

You're going to Australia. The standards compliance rating for helmets isn't the issue. Nor is the reality that you can buy exactly the same helmets here as you can there.

The issue is the Australian Standards compliance sticker. If your helmet hasn't got one of those affixed, then potentially you're in big trouble if the constabulary apprehending you is feeling a bit sniffy or besotted with compliance. It's unlikely you would get stopped for a helmet check but not beyond the realms of possibility that once stopped for some other reason your Kiwi-bought helmet gets checked and failed because it hasn't got a little chrome sticker on it.

Argue until you're blue that your lid meets exactly the same standards as its Australian counterpart. If it hasn't got that sticker, you're shut out of luck.

Surely those stickers wear off all the time on older helmets, what do they do in that case?

[Hitcher]

Surely those stickers wear off all the time on older helmets, what do they do in that case?

They're high class stickers. Laminated foil. Great adhesive. They'd take a fair bit to get them off once affixed.

[SPman]

They're high class stickers. Laminated foil. Great adhesive. They'd take a fair bit to get them off once affixed.
True. I tried taking the one of my Shark!
Proverbial shit to blanket.

[grbaker]

I bit more info on the Ozzy helmet safety standards 'if you like'..

Thanks to me mate Geoff in Melbourne for the copy of the article (attached)
244876 244877

Summary
So the Cops are trained to look for the Silver/Red sticker AS/NZS 1698 and nick you if you don't have it.
But........
a) Due to the TTRMA agreement between AU & NZ any helmet sold legally in NZ is legal in Oz...
b) except in NSW where recently they have handed out Safety certifications to a private company and knocked some local hick laws to enforce it... except the cops don't and the rest of the country doesn't care.

About as clear a mud really.

[Big Dave]

>>Due to the TTRMA agreement between AU & NZ any helmet sold legally in NZ is legal in Oz<<

You got a link for that please?

[shonofear]

WOW
that should be the case, and hope that its true. got meself a Shoei Raid 2 and look to bring it back to Oz at end of year.
I also read on Netriders that a fella went to court against the laws and standards for helmets in QLD and was said that he may of won but someone asked for a link but forgot to check back tbh.
cheers for the info though

[grbaker]

No I don't have a link to it... It is mentioned in the article but as the article also mentioned the cops there only look for the sticker.. and just like cops here they aren't smart enough to argue with.





>>Due to the TTRMA agreement between AU & NZ any helmet sold legally in NZ is legal in Oz<<

You got a link for that please?