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cave weta
7th August 2011, 10:45
Ive just been on Trude Me looking at all the unbelievebly cheap video cameras!
what kind of software will I get to edit footage and make some You Tubeable productions. Im running windows 7

Video Gurus answer here............

george formby
7th August 2011, 10:59
If the camera is MP4 you need to use (buy) something like Sony Vegas. If it's AVI / AVIx then you can edit with windows movie maker for free.

I have a Go Pro which is MP4 & I have to convert it to AVI to edit in WMM, losing quality in the process.

Simplest way is to buy a camera which allows you to do basic editing without a computer, you can do it on the run. Then it's just a case of waiting for it to upload.

Go HD too, the picture quality is mint.

cave weta
7th August 2011, 11:04
If the camera is MP4 you need to use (buy) something like Sony Vegas. If it's AVI / AVIx then you can edit with windows movie maker for free.

I have a Go Pro which is MP4 & I have to convert it to AVI to edit in WMM, losing quality in the process.

Simplest way is to buy a camera which allows you to do basic editing without a computer, you can do it on the run. Then it's just a case of waiting for it to upload.

Go HD too, the picture quality is mint.

can yopu read the specs on this camera for me and se if its what you recommend- I aint too clever on this....
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Video-cameras/Video-cameras/auction-396977355.htm

cave weta
7th August 2011, 11:16
<img src="http://img.movieberry.com/static/photos/4601/poster.jpg">

-Indy

You are a bad man-

george formby
7th August 2011, 11:50
It looks like it has the whistles & bells but only 4 x digital zoom & it is MP4, designed for Apple quick time or at least adopted by Apple. No indication of battery life & you would need to stick a bigger memory card in it.

3m waterproof is basically water resistant IMHO. You can put a lot of extra pressure on housings etc underwater just by moving them fast or banging them.

I think those cameras have been discussed here in recent months but I cannot remember the outcome.

Hang fire until a guru comes along, I'm very much a noob.

cave weta
7th August 2011, 11:54
It looks like it has the whistles & bells but only 4 x digital zoom & it is MP4, designed for Apple quick time or at least adopted by Apple. No indication of battery life & you would need to stick a bigger memory card in it.

3m waterproof is basically water resistant IMHO. You can put a lot of extra pressure on housings etc underwater just by moving them fast or banging them.

I think those cameras have been discussed here in recent months but I cannot remember the outcome.

Hang fire until a guru comes along, I'm very much a noob.
shit- you know way more than me!- the format thing is a huge thing to know. Thanks for your help

george formby
7th August 2011, 12:02
shit- you know way more than me!- the format thing is a huge thing to know. Thanks for your help

What kind of movies you wanna make?

Their are some very good & cheap POV cameras available ( point of view ) which you can stick almost anywhere.

For me editing is the biggest thing, I'm still trying to get my head around it. 3 hours of video becomes very intimidating when your trying to get 3 minutes of highlights. I watch TV with a whole new appreciation now.

If you have a digital camera that shoots a bit of video, do so, and see if you can edit it with Windows 7, Movie maker should be on their if not download it from Microsoft or www.downloads.com. Also check to see if your version will do MP4 aka (H.264).

The Lone Rider
7th August 2011, 12:11
How in depth do you want to edit? If you're just wanting to take some shots, and piece it together in a chronological order with the odd transition and a title, Movie Maker will do that.

Higher up on the scale something like Pinnacle Studios adds in a few more functions such as basic sound control mapping (you can "draw" the volume levels through the movie), and extra functions such as jitter correction, gamma and color correction etc. Also basic green screen stuff.

Higher up there still would be something like Final Cut Pro (do they still make that?) It would allow you to do multi layered video & audio, dubbed down into surround sound. You'd have full control over the audio panning, with audio filters. Video wise you can do overlays, motion paths, and more advanced green screen stuff.

I've got an old sony handycam that will film in widescreen - 720 x 6-- something odd, in uncompressed AVI. x10 zoom with paris hilton grade night vision. Records onto a digital tape and I capture onto a computer using a Pinnacle capture card (Firewire system). The camera is not small though, and the file format works out 250-300mb a minute of video. High enough quality though it looks alright when projected onto a screen.

george formby
7th August 2011, 12:15
How in depth do you want to edit? If you're just wanting to take some shots, and piece it together in a chronological order with the odd transition and a title, Movie Maker will do that.

Higher up on the scale something like Pinnacle Studios adds in a few more functions such as basic sound control mapping (you can "draw" the volume levels through the movie), and extra functions such as jitter correction, gamma and color correction etc. Also basic green screen stuff.

Higher up there still would be something like Final Cut Pro (do they still make that?) It would allow you to do multi layered video & audio, dubbed down into surround sound. You'd have full control over the audio panning, with audio filters. Video wise you can do overlays, motion paths, and more advanced green screen stuff.

I've got an old sony handycam that will film in widescreen - 720 x 6-- something odd, in uncompressed AVI. x10 zoom with paris hilton grade night vision. Records onto a digital tape and I capture onto a computer using a Pinnacle capture card (Firewire system). The camera is not small though, and the file format works out 250-300mb a minute of video. High enough quality though it looks alright when projected onto a screen.

This is what drives me to drink. Parlez vous DVD?

The Lone Rider
7th August 2011, 12:21
This is what drives me to drink. Parlez vous DVD?

I dub my edits into single uncompressed .avi files, then load them into Ulead DVD Factory, which allows you to make custom menus and multiple paged titles. It'll then render it down to a file size that will fit a single layer burnable DVD. Or dual layer DVD if you have a dual layer burner and want to pay for those expensive dual layer blanks.

You loose quality burning onto single layer though - since it has to reduce the video quality to fit it on a 4gb disk.

For you tube, you won't need to worry as a small file size is all thats needed.

cave weta
7th August 2011, 12:58
I have just clicked Programs> Accesories> Movie maker.
in my computer and what do you know? I have a simple easy program that does all I need. Im in there now adding titles and making slow mo and dubbing in a sound track
Im Peter Jackson!:woohoo::woohoo:

george formby
7th August 2011, 13:08
I have just clicked Programs> Accesories> Movie maker.
in my computer and what do you know? I have a simple easy program that does all I need. Im in there now adding titles and making slow mo and dubbing in a sound track
Im Peter Jackson!:woohoo::woohoo:

Tickety boo:yes: Now get back in the garage & give us an up date on your Postie bike.

The Lone Rider
7th August 2011, 14:07
I have just clicked Programs> Accesories> Movie maker.
in my computer and what do you know? I have a simple easy program that does all I need. Im in there now adding titles and making slow mo and dubbing in a sound track
Im Peter Jackson!:woohoo::woohoo:

Don't forget, if you are uploading to Youtube you need music that is available for free usage.

Websites like Soundclick.com and Garageband.com have many free to use mp3s that Youtube will allow.

cave weta
7th August 2011, 14:14
Don't forget, if you are uploading to Youtube you need music that is available for free usage.

Websites like Soundclick.com and Garageband.com have many free to use mp3s that Youtube will allow.

Thats it- its official- you two are good mates!
and lone Rider..... we have a freind in common I just realised! Rayne stayed at my place while visiting NZ. lovely lady.

The Lone Rider
7th August 2011, 14:36
Thats it- its official- you two are good mates!
and lone Rider..... we have a freind in common I just realised! Rayne stayed at my place while visiting NZ. lovely lady.

Ah you either read the magazine... or you should be!

Laava
7th August 2011, 22:42
For an extra couple of grand you could get Lisa Loosis for the weekend, and a willing volunteer from the KB ranks, and there you go! Movie!
I know she's not very nice looking but no-one will feel guilty watching it!

cave weta
3rd October 2011, 19:06
:woohoo::woohoo:FIGJAM!:woohoo::woohoo:

<iframe width="640" height="480" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/sZ63HrkwOZg?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
I made a movie with a cellphone and stuck it on YouTube. Has that ever been done before?....

Madmax
4th October 2011, 13:57
here you go

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=412434082

imdying
4th October 2011, 14:29
Start with the pdf version: http://isohunt.com/torrents/?ihq=Direct+Your+Own+Damn+Movie

cave weta
4th October 2011, 22:35
Start with the pdf version: http://isohunt.com/torrents/?ihq=Direct+Your+Own+Damn+Movie


here you go

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=412434082

Thanks both! two top links! -:yes:

Juzz976
7th October 2011, 21:26
I'd prefer to use WVGA (800 x 480) @ 60FPS than 720P @ 30fps.

Anything 30fps is just unbearable to watch unless your filming grass grow.

Good price though for 50 and 60fps now.

cave weta
11th October 2011, 20:26
Wahoo- I gone dun it agin!:woohoo:

This time I used a tiny spy camera - $45 from trade-me
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=413026390

It is smaller than my thumb and is just velcro'd to the lining of my helmet right next to my eye...
This was first test and was shaky -Ive firmed it up now and this Sunday Im taking 17 Auckland Gravel Riders members up to the goldmines. so lets see what that one looks like...
<iframe width="640" height="480" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/G94BghoONvo?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

BigAl
11th October 2011, 21:13
Ha ha was chick that a newbie or what:facepalm:

Not bad for a $45 camera, i had something similar but it only lasted a couple of months.

Would like a go pro but can't justify $300 and don't really like mp4s, interested to see what others use.

cave weta
11th October 2011, 21:14
here is the camera setup..


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