Something's missing, in my life, maybe it's...

[brett7777]

...a NZ internet forum to discuss & circulate news, pics, & info about...BOBBERS. News just in: the 'Rattlers' forum, which catered to several hundred members who like to modify their bikes into this kind of style, has just been shut down.
This leaves a huge hole for people like us to meet online & communicate. There's a whole heap of us!
So Im asking Kiwibiker here on this thread: will you start a section specifically for 'Bobbers' where we can meet online & communicate? If you dont wanna be so specific, maybe make it for 'Modified bikes' incl Cafe Racers, Bobbers, & Choppers.
I see you have a cruiser section but that's not really it.
If you do it, I'll encourage everyone to meet here, now that it's RIP Rattlers forum.
Whadda you think?

[DrunkenMistake]

A customs section would be pretty cool,
Great idea actually.
I Love cafe racers and bobbers.

[Laava]

Gonna build me a Bobber.
Gonna call it Lorena

[Renegade]

i was a member of rattlers, how come its been shut down?

[brett7777]

this is what one of the Rattlers riders group said on facebook:
"...because the forum has the same name as the riders group, the group has been getting unfairly painted."
I gather that the Rattlers riders group, which is a small group of guys who originally formed an 'invite only' group, & also set up the website & forum, didnt like the way the forum reflected on them, in some way. They always made it very clear that the forum didnt necessarily reflect their views or tastes or even bike styles.
This is not the kind of narrow sort of section that Im asking the Kiwibiker forum to provide. Under the banner of 'customs' or 'modified' there is also, besides cafe racers, bobbers & choppers, the genres of streetfighters, trackers, & bratstyle.
There is a lot of this custom modifying going on around the place; heaps of people seem to want to convert a bike into a bobber or one of these other styles, so how about it Kiwibiker? How about a section for this?

[Virago]

Site Admin are always willing to consider new forum sections - provided that there is a confirmed need for it. If there's a steady increase in Modified Bikes threads and forum traffic, then I'm sure it will be looked at. :yes:

[brett7777]

Site Admin are always willing to consider new forum sections - provided that there is a confirmed need for it. If there's a steady increase in Modified Bikes threads and forum traffic, then I'm sure it will be looked at. :yes:

well here's hoping then.
At the moment there's no section for modified bikes tho.
I cant refer people to a section that doesn't exist, & they will always gather somewhere, so I guess there's an opportunity here if site admin are into it.
all those guys who were posting up their bike's mods will be wanting to post somewhere...

[FJRider]

Modifications to your motorcycle is common as ... seats, fairing-blades, paint, brakes, exausts, tyres/wheels, engine components are popular mods to suit the individual owner/rider ... only the extent that varies ...

Often the selling point of a bike is the amount of aftermarket parts available to customise it ...

[brett7777]

Modifications to your motorcycle is common as ... seats, fairing-blades, paint, brakes, exausts, tyres/wheels, engine components are popular mods to suit the individual owner/rider ... only the extent that varies ...

Often the selling point of a bike is the amount of aftermarket parts available to customise it ...

yep.
In this case Im talking specifically about the growing popularity of certain types of mods, & mods that make the bike into a certain category of bike, that doesn't necessarily fit into sport bike, tourer, cruiser, etc.

[Virago]

well here's hoping then.
At the moment there's no section for modified bikes tho.
I cant refer people to a section that doesn't exist, & they will always gather somewhere, so I guess there's an opportunity here if site admin are into it.
all those guys who were posting up their bike's mods will be wanting to post somewhere...

If they're the anti-social types who don't like to mix with those other dirty common bikers, then there's always the Social Group option in the interim...:innocent:

The BFTP (Blast from the Past) Group get together in their space - they're probably the most active Social Group.

From there, if there's a demonstrated need for another forum section, I guess it will be looked at.

In the meantime, I'll have a word with Admin.

[brett7777]

If they're the anti-social types who don't like to mix with those other dirty common bikers, then there's always the Social Group option in the interim...:innocent:

The BFTP (Blast from the Past) Group get together in their space - they're probably the most active Social Group.

From there, if there's a demonstrated need for another forum section, I guess it will be looked at.

I think it would need it's own category, for it to work.
My suggestion would be in the motorcycle subtypes. It's certainly missing from there.

[brett7777]

In the meantime, I'll have a word with Admin.

.............Thanks.

[bogan]

I think it would need it's own category, for it to work.
My suggestion would be in the motorcycle subtypes. It's certainly missing from there.

I agree, I've seen a few threads worth reading (I mean proper modding with custom parts, rather than a slip-on muffler or two). But fuck trying to find where they got too now, I could find two of mine though ;)

+1 to the modded section idea.

[HenryDorsetCase]

http://www.bikeexif.com/1982-yamaha-virago

this the sort of thing you mean? cos it gives me the horn.

I have a VFR400 swingarm I have kept specially for a project like this.

[brett7777]

http://www.bikeexif.com/1982-yamaha-virago

this the sort of thing you mean? cos it gives me the horn.

I have a VFR400 swingarm I have kept specially for a project like this.

Yeah that's exactly what I mean.
And as you can see it's not a tourer, sport bike, pocket bike, classic etc...see what I mean...something's missing

[fokky]

Good on ya Brett,fantastic idea.
Its a shame to have a site like Rattlers vanish....possibly awake up call to start using and supporting some of the other brilliant NZ specialist custom bike sites before its to late:yes:

[brett7777]

yeah it tis a shame about the Rattlers forum, when you think that there were literally year's worth of build threads & pics & info on there, plus they had several hundred members with new ones joining all the time.
to me that does already show that there's a need for this category here on KB.

I certainly need somewhere to go online each day now, to get what was previously my Rattlers fix.

[brett7777]

realized i probably shouldnt be holding my breath waiting for KB admin to add another subsection (altho I hope they do)
so is started a forum for all the displaced people who used to frequent the Rattlers forum
http://custombikesnz.forumotion.co.nz/

[cave weta]

http://www.bikeexif.com/1982-yamaha-virago

this the sort of thing you mean? cos it gives me the horn.

That is Porn! - I would post in there. my Worlds Fastest Postie Bike (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/139464-The-World-s-Fastest-Postie-Bike)should be in there. and my Dinnington project needs to be written up.There are two CB350/400 cafe racer projects going on that I keep losing. they would be tidier to find in there. plus its a great way to keep wierd and interesting parts circulating in the right circles.

[Mental Trousers]

realized i probably shouldnt be holding my breath waiting for KB admin to add another subsection (altho I hope they do)
so is started a forum for all the displaced people who used to frequent the Rattlers forum
http://custombikesnz.forumotion.co.nz/

Way to shoot your own cause in the foot :facepalm:

At the very least you just made it really difficult for those who support the idea to get a Modified Bikes sub-forum set up.

Build it and they will come fails 9/10 times (that's a proven fact). Proven demand drives change on this site. So lots of people posting about Modified Bikes gets a sub-forum for Modified Bikes. People going to a different site for Modified Bikes doesn't.

It's that simple.

[DrunkenMistake]

Way to shoot your own cause in the foot :facepalm:

At the very least you just made it really difficult for those who support the idea to get a Modified Bikes sub-forum set up.

Build it and they will come fails 9/10 times (that's a proven fact). Proven demand drives change on this site. So lots of people posting about Modified Bikes gets a sub-forum for Modified Bikes. People going to a different site for Modified Bikes doesn't.

It's that simple.
+1 but I think a Mods section would still be a great idea,
could range from the basic slip on muffler to a full on built from the ground up custom bobber.
There are alot of people who do little extras to their bike and would probably post them in a section like that, I personally havnt done too much to my own bike, I have only swapped the entire stock exhaust for a race one, added some LED accent lights, some air horns and that really about it in the way of customising cosmedicly, but I would post up photos and videos etc in a modifications section.
But as said before, it would need to have a high number of threads made and posts before a section could be considered.

[brett7777]

Way to shoot your own cause in the foot :facepalm:

At the very least you just made it really difficult for those who support the idea to get a Modified Bikes sub-forum set up.

Build it and they will come fails 9/10 times (that's a proven fact). Proven demand drives change on this site. So lots of people posting about Modified Bikes gets a sub-forum for Modified Bikes. People going to a different site for Modified Bikes doesn't.

It's that simple.

I guess it isnt so much a cause as just a simple need; a group of people who used to have a forum & now dont. (or didnt). So just filling a need really.

[Mental Trousers]

+1 but I think a Mods section would still be a great idea,
could range from the basic slip on muffler to a full on built from the ground up custom bobber.
There are alot of people who do little extras to their bike and would probably post them in a section like that, I personally havnt done too much to my own bike, I have only swapped the entire stock exhaust for a race one, added some LED accent lights, some air horns and that really about it in the way of customising cosmedicly, but I would post up photos and videos etc in a modifications section.
But as said before, it would need to have a high number of threads made and posts before a section could be considered.

I'm happy to set up a sub-forum for Modified Bikes but I need to see there is definite support, and I don't mean lots of people who say yeah that's a great idea and then don't post anything or take any further part.

If you (or someone else) really want this to happen then drum up support. Start a thread or two, get people behind setting it up and if enough people take an interest and keep on being interested (it's really important people stay interested in it) it'll happen.

Popular support does actually get some things done around here (not many but then this isn't a democracy).

[HenryDorsetCase]

Popular support does actually get some things done around (not many but then this isn't a democracy).

Well it appears I have been greivously misinformed

[bogan]

I'm happy to set up a sub-forum for Modified Bikes but I need to see there is definite support, and I don't mean lots of people who say yeah that's a great idea and then don't post anything or take any further part.

If you (or someone else) really want this to happen then drum up support. Start a thread or two, get people behind setting it up and if enough people take an interest and keep on being interested (it's really important people stay interested in it) it'll happen.

Popular support does actually get some things done around (not many but then this isn't a democracy).

Here are links to my two custom bike threads anyway, KRE (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/132349-KR-E-...lectric) and Cylonbros (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/136114-The-Johnda-(custom-bike-sneak-peek)?highlight=bros). So thats two, plus Cave Weta's and the two cafe racers, plus a few brett brings in, enough?

[fokky]

Way to shoot your own cause in the foot :facepalm:

At the very least you just made it really difficult for those who support the idea to get a Modified Bikes sub-forum set up.

People going to a different site for Modified Bikes doesn't.

It's that simple.
EVER looked at the old rattlers site?Or greasemonkeys.co.nz or NZstreetfighters?It appears to me that there is plenty of interest in modified bikes and discussion of said bikes...

[Mental Trousers]

EVER looked at the old rattlers site?Or greasemonkeys.co.nz or NZstreetfighters?It appears to me that there is plenty of interest in modified bikes and discussion of said bikes...

Are they on here?? Don't see them (yet).

[bogan]

Are they on here?? Don't see them (yet).

Why would they come here? there is no mod sub-forum (yet). :bleh:

[Mental Trousers]

Why would they come here? there is no mod sub-forum (yet). :bleh:

... and there won't be until they turn up!!

There's been plenty of sub-forums that have died after a couple of months. So these days the people have to be there before the sub-forums.

[fokky]

Are they on here?? Don't see them (yet).
notheyarenotherethereforetheydontexist....jesus been out side recently?

[imdying]

There's already 7 mechanical sub forums.

Having said that, the modified sub forums are always the ones I visit first when visiting a new forum.

[bogan]

... and there won't be until they turn up!!

There's been plenty of sub-forums that have died after a couple of months. So these days the people have to be there before the sub-forums.

They're only sub-forums, is it really the end of the world if there are a few dead ones lying around?

[imdying]

They're only sub-forums, is it really the end of the world if there are a few dead ones lying around?How many is a few? Two? Ten? Fifty? How far should he let the rot set in before doing something about it?

[bogan]

How many is a few? Two? Ten? Fifty? How far should he let the rot set in before doing something about it?

Six, then you have to sweep them up into a big pile and feed em to the pigs, they go through bone like butter.

[Mental Trousers]

notheyarenotherethereforetheydontexist....jesus been out side recently?

Way to encourage someone to do something you want :facepalm:

[lowrider]

ive been a lurker for a while, time to post.

I was registered on rattlers forum, but now that rattlers forum is no more it would be cool if there were a section on here to cater for the modified/custom stuff :cool:

Im a car guy but looking at pics and reading build threads on other internet forums about modified/custom road bikes (bobbers inparticular) is what got me interested in road bikes.

[brett7777]

ive been a lurker for a while, time to post.

I was registered on rattlers forum, but now that rattlers forum is no more it would be cool if there were a section on here to cater for the modified/custom stuff :cool:

Im a car guy but looking at pics and reading build threads on other internet forums about modified/custom road bikes (bobbers inparticular) is what got me interested in road bikes.

welcome friend :-) http://custombikesnz.forumotion.co.nz/

[bogan]

So anyway, what is the magic number? How many mod-type threads need to have been active in the last month, for a subforum to be worth it?

[brett7777]

I think the thing is done & dusted :-)
If Kiwibiker had wanted to start a sub forum I would've directed the group over here but they didnt so we carried on with a new forum. I thought it was worthwhile asking, & I guess it always is, even if the opportunity isn't taken.
Never mind. Let the modding continue!

[imdying]

So anyway, what is the magic number? How many mod-type threads need to have been active in the last month, for a subforum to be worth it?Surely no less than 2 a day, so 60 a month?


Let the modding continue!It never stopped.

[brett7777]

...............Yep.

[bogan]

Surely no less than 2 a day, so 60 a month?

Thats heaps! The hawkforum only has about a dozen active ones, but they are generally updated ever few days.

[imdying]

Maybe not too bad... it would syphon off some custom related posts in the generic technical forums for a start.