View Full Version : 1Tonne vs Qmoto?
XV8Crisis
14th August 2011, 20:41
I know I'm at high risk of starting a flame war between Quasi and 1Tonne, but I can't think over anywhere else to ask this. Just behave, you two :Police:
I'm in Welly and have just started getting into bikes. I got started with a motorbike jacket that is just plain old (30 years old!), but has been great for low-speed practice. It's well built and has been very cared for. I've got a helmet, boots and gloves as well, no worries, just missing the pants so far. Been wearing thermals and 2 pairs of jeans, but I know that's not enough.
So i'm now looking at getting some decent starting leather protection for my top and legs. I''ve been looking at a first set of 2-piece leathers for the road, not the track (obviously). Mostly commuting and eventually getting out of town for a trip or 3. I don't have a huge budget (I'd like to keep it under $700, ideally...) so I've tried to shave off some coin by looking online and have narrowed it down to these two 1Tonne and Qmoto 2-piece suits:
1Tonne's 2-piece Panther Suit:
http://www.1tonne.co.nz/index.php?page=listingDetails&prodid=76&sco=&categoryid=4
and Qmoto's Black Rock (under their QStreet line) 2-piece suit:
Jacket:
http://www.qmoto.co.nz/gear-shop/qmoto/qstreet-jackets?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=38&category_id=7
and Pants:
http://www.qmoto.co.nz/gear-shop/qmoto/qstreet-pants?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=50&category_id=8
But I'm torn over which one will be better for me, or which is the better value, or which features are really worth having. Can you guys please give me some advice?
1Tonne
Pros
Lower price by about $35
Has some hip padding
Cons
No hard armor on the shins
Unknown leather thickness (just states "Grade A+")
Are the foam protectors those two strips on the back? Is he wearing armor under?
What does 'multiple stitching' mean? Where is it stitched and how many times there?
Qmoto
Pros
Tripple Nylon Stitching
Padding on sides of arms
Padding on lower neck/upper shoulder
Hard armor on shins
Reflective piping (I do plan on night riding some)
Collar looks comfy
Cons
Doesn't look to have any tailbone padding
Not specified what armor is in the back of jacket (but did note two strips of additional padding)
No hip padding?
As far as I can tell, both have had great feedback and happy customers.
I won't be using the knee sliders, of course. Not that kind of rider, and I hear 1Tonne's wear out in one day anyway.
Can anyone vouch for comfort/fit?
How they hold up in a crash/multiple crashes? (I'm under the slight impression that Qmoto's stuff holds up a little better in a crash, most likely from the stitching.)
I'm ever, ever so slightly leaning towards Qmoto's suit at the moment, but I'm really tight on $ at the moment, and at the same time want good protection from a decent pair of leathers.
Help?
DrunkenMistake
14th August 2011, 20:47
Qmoto hands down man,
not to mention if you hit up Bret, (QMoto) he would happily give you a run down of his gear,
I currently have one of his Jackets, and its been the best thing since sliced bread for me,
and im in the process of getting some pants off him too.
I havnt had any of 1tonnes leather stuff ill be honest, but I have felt let down with a couple of their products I have had. Dont want to run anything down so ill leave it at that.
ducatilover
14th August 2011, 20:49
I have owned both.
I will recommend Qmoto to anyone, I can take pics of the gear after an 80-90kph crash if need be. It's excellent. :Punk:
tigertim20
14th August 2011, 20:56
I have a qausimoto viper jacket, and 1tonne panther pants. im currently sitting in a room with a friend who is wearing his Qmoto edge jacket and qmoto estremos pants.
As I just bought my 1 tonne pants about 3 days ago, I wanted to compare qaulity, and we have both agreed after a good inspection, that both the 1tonne panther pants, and the qmoto estremos are of equal qaulity in terms of materials and construction.
The friend has had a bin or two in qausi stuff, and it stood up well.
The comment I will make about the qausi stuff, is that the stitching on the velcro areas is problematic. On my viper jacket which Ive had approx 8 months, the stitching holding the velcro tags to the leather has come adrift. The guy sitting next to me has had his estremos pants for almost a year, and the velcro for the sliders has come almost completely off on one leg - for the record, he does not use sliders, ever, so this is not from hard riding/knee dragging, but he is an every day rider.
I will also say that over all the both of us are very happy with our qausi gear, and they have been great to deal with, and my friend has had excellent after sales service from qmoto when sending items back for repairs, and they are very friendly and easy to deal with, and the postage is very quick.
As for the 1 tonne stuff, I found them very easy, I purchased on their online shop, and the pants arrived very fast, and they provided very efficient communication when I asked for a track and trace number for the sent item, I have no complaints at all.
I cannotcomment on the longevity of 1tonne leather having only had the pants a few days now, but they arecomfortable, and as i said, we have just this evening done a side by side comparison to the qausi pants, and we agreed they are of equal qaulity in our opinions.
So based on our experiences, bot shops offer good leather, at good prices, were easy to deal with, offered fast service and response times. Im very happy with both my qmoto and my 1tonne stuff thus far.
Hopefully this helps coming from someone with both the companies gear right here!!,If you have any other questions, Ill help out if I can.
Mom
14th August 2011, 21:01
I know I'm at high risk of starting a flame war... Help?
Then dont ask the question on here.
You have no idea about flame wars either, my people broke KB last time we had a decent Flame Warrior fight :rofl:
Gear is gear, is gear. Some is better than others, some is fucken wonderful.Some is over sold by fans of the product, while others that have purchased the same gear think it sucks!
Do your own research. Best advice I can give you, try the gear on BEFORE parting with coin.
Nice troll, I nibbled a little bit...
geoffc
14th August 2011, 21:02
Have 1Tonne pants & Qmoto jacket. Got both at a good deal. Like both. Quality looks similar to be honest. Both good businesses to deal with. Your choice. I am sure you would be happy whatever. :-)
steve_t
14th August 2011, 21:17
I have a qausimoto viper jacket, and 1tonne panther pants. im currently sitting in a room with a friend who is wearing his Qmoto edge jacket and qmoto estremos pants.
Are you guys riding around in the snow? :shit:
tigertim20
14th August 2011, 21:23
Are you guys riding around in the snow? :shit:
sometimes yeah. he rode most of the way here but had to leave the bike atop a very steep, very snow covered hill. its only water (really really cold water, but water nonetheless!)
DrunkenMistake
14th August 2011, 21:24
Are you guys riding around in the snow? :shit:
Pffftttttttttttt TT has probably only just got out of bed, and his friend probably rode..
I wouldn't recommend anyone ride in this shit weather, my poor little old honda was covered in snow at 4pm and it took me 5 attempts to get it fired into life, and then came the challenge of seeing in a white blizzard of snow and hail lmao
tigertim20
14th August 2011, 21:43
LOL what a thread.
a few things
1/ Stitching, how many rows and type of thread
2/ Armour KNOX or not
3/ leather thickness and type
4/ Back pads are not back protectors
5/ My specification not someone elses.
6/ no B.S rrp and No, wanky GP professional race suits for $350 here.
personally not interested in 1 tonne never have been we aim quality at a higher level and always will.
have a nice discussion
it is that attitude right there that puts alot of people off buying your products qausi. I have got some of your gear, and I overall like it, I am overall happy with it, and I happily recommend it to others BUT, your gear isnt perfect either, I can upload a photo right now of velcro coming apart on jackets, and velcro knee slider patches (that have never been used) coming adrift both of these items are less than a year old from you, - your products also have faults.
Im sitting here with qausi pants in one hand, and 1tonne in the other, stitching lines, leather thickness etc, are about equal to each other. of course you are going to promote your product, but at the end of the day, if YOU can make good gear for a good price, why do you imply that nobody else in the world could possibly do it too?
nzspokes
14th August 2011, 21:45
LOL what a thread.
a few things
1/ Stitching, how many rows and type of thread
2/ Armour KNOX or not
3/ leather thickness and type
4/ Back pads are not back protectors
5/ My specification not someone elses.
6/ no B.S rrp and No, wanky GP professional race suits for $350 here.
personally not interested in 1 tonne never have been we aim quality at a higher level and always will.
have a nice discussion
When you say armour, can you get different levels/types of armour that go into jackets?
DrunkenMistake
14th August 2011, 21:49
When you say armour, can you get different levels/types of armour that go into jackets?
I know the answer but I cant figure out how to word it,
Have a read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorcycle_armor
Quasievil
14th August 2011, 21:52
When you say armour, can you get different levels/types of armour that go into jackets?
Yes you can
Knox armour is about the best, most of the stuff that comes out in cheap stuff is either fake CE or Satra certified which is crap.
Elbow, Shoulder should be certified, we dont risk it and specify KNOX as its the best.
Trademe sellers have been B.S ing about the foam pad being a back Protector for ages and its a load of crap, hence I sell proper KNOX back Protectors.
Tiger Tim if you dont like the attitude you imply I dont give a poo buddy, facts are Facts mate.
Any Velcro product will eventually fail, usually if we are notified we fix it, never a problem
nzspokes
14th August 2011, 21:55
I know the answer but I cant figure out how to word it,
Have a read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorcycle_armor
Cool, think mine is that level. But back protector is the lower one.
DrunkenMistake
14th August 2011, 21:58
Cool, think mine is that level. But back protector is the lower one.
If you have that little piece of foam in the back of your jacket, its not a back protector, its just a piece of pad haha
nzspokes
14th August 2011, 21:58
Yes you can
Knox armour is about the best, most of the stuff that comes out in cheap stuff is either fake CE or Satra certified which is crap.
Elbow, Shoulder should be certified, we dont risk it and specify KNOX as its the best.
Trademe sellers have been B.S ing about the foam pad being a back Protector for ages and its a load of crap, hence I sell proper KNOX back Protectors.
Tiger Tim if you dont like the attitude you imply I dont give a poo buddy, facts are Facts mate.
Any Velcro product will eventually fail, usually if we are notified we fix it, never a problem
How do you tell if its fake? Should they have codes our something on them? Couldnt find the back ones on your site. Im buying a summer jacket that has the pocket but no protector.
YellowDog
14th August 2011, 21:59
IMO - People buy from people. The price is a factor however if you get bad service, the price is often a lot higher than you actually paid and possibly more than the competitive product.
I guess it all depends upon what you are buying and the location of the supplier. If you need something to fit you properly, then online buying is not the way to go :no:
ducatilover
14th August 2011, 22:00
If you have that little piece of foam in the back of your jacket, its not a back protector, its just a piece of pad haha
Might as well slap some libra fanny pads in there. Soak up the blood real well in a crash
tigertim20
14th August 2011, 22:03
these two qmoto items are less than a year old.
The jacket with the 3 tabs is about 8 months old, used about twice a week
the pants are about 11 months old, worn most days, but have never used sliders/done trackdays etc, so the velcro coming apart is not due to hard use.
My point is that Not even qausi's products are perfect. I have personally purchased qausi products, and am quite happy with them overall, I have also recommended his gear to others who have purchased from him solely on my recommendation (one of those people has posted in here already) but frankly, seeing this kind of 'Im the only person in the whole world who can make good gear at a good price and everyone elses gear is just fucking cheap shit' attitude puts me off wanting to continue purchasing from you.
If you have a good product, it will sell itself, its not your job to go running around telling people what they should, or should not spend their money on, people will do their own research, and purchase according to their needs and budget.
That aside, the only reason I can think of for your displaying constant animosity towards other sellers is that they are taking a chunk of the market, and its hurting you in terms of sales lost to other sellers.
To the person that started the thread i will say this. IGNORE EVERYTHING that qausi, or 1 tonne, or any other seller tells you, they will only tell you that their product is the best. ask people who have actually purchased the products you are interested in, and who have used them and can give an informed opinion. Do your OWN research,and make sure youtry the item on before buying, or at least have an assurance of money back if the item does notfit/you dont like it etc.
I have purchased both of their products recently, and I have already given my personal opinion on both.
DrunkenMistake
14th August 2011, 22:04
Might as well slap some libra fanny pads in there. Soak up the blood real well in a crash
That or shut that fucking annoying noise behind you when you over take a series of cars on one wheel..
Or was that the misses..
hayd3n
14th August 2011, 22:19
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mmm cookies
steve_t
14th August 2011, 22:19
Might as well slap some libra fanny pads in there. Soak up the blood real well in a crash
Twing twing twing
tigertim20
14th August 2011, 22:20
Tiger Tim if you dont like the attitude you imply I dont give a poo buddy, facts are Facts mate.
Any Velcro product will eventually fail, usually if we are notified we fix it, never a problem
I frankly dont give a fuck about your opinion either qausi, because you are a businessman, youre making a product to make a living, that alone makes your opinion worth fuckall, because your interest is in selling products and making money, people dont buy your product because of what you tell them, they buy it on their own terms, and based on their own opinions.
So, you come in, piss on a competitors product, then when shown your OWN product failing and falling apart within a few months, your response is ''well yeah, that just happens",(I point out again that the knee slider patches HAVE NEVER BEEN USED) seems like something of a double standard. Id have sent the item back for a repair, but i dont want to be without a jacket for a week or more while its sent back and forth getting fixed, ill just get it done locally at some point.
You make a product, some poeple buy it, some people go elsewhere, why cant you simply accept that as a 'fact' - seeing as you like to make such a point of 'facts'?.
Your gear is NOT the only decent gear available at a decent price, and coming out in the open and pissing on other products all the time makes you look unprofessional, and shows only that your business is threatened by the existence of competing products that people might (and do) choose over yours.
As i mentioned earlier, I have in the past actively promoted your product not because it was the 'best' but because I enjoyed dealing with you, that tendency to promote you fades with every childish bagging of competitor products, and I think you fail to recognize the impact of such an attitude on your own sales.
DrunkenMistake
14th August 2011, 22:31
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(I point out again that the knee slider patches HAVE NEVER BEEN USED) seems like something of a double standard. Id have sent the item back for a repair, but i dont want to be without a jacket for a week or more while its sent back and forth getting fixed, ill just get it done locally at some point.
To be fair, sliders probably have a single stitch its only a piece of fabric and those pants are worn daily for every occasion you said yourself earlier they are not made for that, for them to stay there for a year with that kind use is pretty good IMO, as for the velcro part on your jacket, Its kinda random, Iv used my jacket for about 130 days over 5 months and it hasvnt even shown any ware, and I abuse my gear,
Also, I can get it fixed for next to nothing for you,
Everything is going to have some kind of flaw or problem, show me one product that is perfect,
I think the OP should have changed the name of the thread to, "Best recommendation for leather gear" probably wouldnt have started the pantey liner tossing competition.
Besides before the Fun:Police: shift this shit to PD,
Go to some of the local bike shops and try some gear on first, a bike shop isnt going to sell you shit gear lets be honest, its just a matter of picking the right shop and not listening to the salesmen trying to sell you his wife.
Quasievil
14th August 2011, 22:32
these two qmoto items are less than a year old.
The jacket with the 3 tabs is about 8 months old, used about twice a week
the pants are about 11 months old, worn most days, but have never used sliders/done trackdays etc, so the velcro coming apart is not due to hard use.
My point is that Not even qausi's products are perfect. I have personally purchased qausi products, and am quite happy with them overall, I have also recommended his gear to others who have purchased from him solely on my recommendation (one of those people has posted in here already) but frankly, seeing this kind of 'Im the only person in the whole world who can make good gear at a good price and everyone elses gear is just fucking cheap shit' attitude puts me off wanting to continue purchasing from you.
If you have a good product, it will sell itself, its not your job to go running around telling people what they should, or should not spend their money on, people will do their own research, and purchase according to their needs and budget.
That aside, the only reason I can think of for your displaying constant animosity towards other sellers is that they are taking a chunk of the market, and its hurting you in terms of sales lost to other sellers.
To the person that started the thread i will say this. IGNORE EVERYTHING that qausi, or 1 tonne, or any other seller tells you, they will only tell you that their product is the best. ask people who have actually purchased the products you are interested in, and who have used them and can give an informed opinion. Do your OWN research,and make sure youtry the item on before buying, or at least have an assurance of money back if the item does notfit/you dont like it etc.
I have purchased both of their products recently, and I have already given my personal opinion on both.
Happy to get them fixed for you if you like, velcro is a bitch, I wish I could invent something better !
hayd3n
14th August 2011, 22:32
mmmmmmmmmmm cookies
Quasievil
14th August 2011, 22:37
I frankly dont give a fuck about your opinion either qausi, because you are a businessman, youre making a product to make a living, that alone makes your opinion worth fuckall, because your interest is in selling products and making money, people dont buy your product because of what you tell them, they buy it on their own terms, and based on their own opinions.
So, you come in, piss on a competitors product, then when shown your OWN product failing and falling apart within a few months, your response is ''well yeah, that just happens",(I point out again that the knee slider patches HAVE NEVER BEEN USED) seems like something of a double standard. Id have sent the item back for a repair, but i dont want to be without a jacket for a week or more while its sent back and forth getting fixed, ill just get it done locally at some point.
You make a product, some poeple buy it, some people go elsewhere, why cant you simply accept that as a 'fact' - seeing as you like to make such a point of 'facts'?.
Your gear is NOT the only decent gear available at a decent price, and coming out in the open and pissing on other products all the time makes you look unprofessional, and shows only that your business is threatened by the existence of competing products that people might (and do) choose over yours.
As i mentioned earlier, I have in the past actively promoted your product not because it was the 'best' but because I enjoyed dealing with you, that tendency to promote you fades with every childish bagging of competitor products, and I think you fail to recognize the impact of such an attitude on your own sales.
Im not pissing on anyones products actually those facts arent of my creation.
Also I dont make a living of it, I dont even need it, its a hobbie, I work for a corporate.
You need to get a blowjob very quickly I feel as you seem to have some tension build up.
That velcro scenario seems odd, if you never used the velcro for the knee sliders what force is being applied to enable the velcro to pull away one wonders ?
If you want me to fix that velcro no problems whip em back and I will have them back in a flash.
Meantime try and get a blowy before you go to bed:laugh:
tigertim20
14th August 2011, 22:40
Everything is going to have some kind of flaw or problem, show me one product that is perfect,
.
this in essence is the point i was trying to make in my typical over the top ranting raging way, - no product is perfect, 1 tonne willhave faults, qausi gear has faults, and so too do alpinestar and berik. its a fact of life, you make a choice based on need and budget, and accept that sacrifices will be a fact of life.
anyway, I have strayed off topic, OP wanted opinions, and i gave mine:Punk:
Now, hayd3n, tell me more about these cookies?:laugh:
skinman
14th August 2011, 22:48
I believe we are now at cookies & blowjobs.
In the end it all descends to sex cause sex sells
ducatilover
14th August 2011, 22:55
That or shut that fucking annoying noise behind you when you over take a series of cars on one wheel..
Or was that the misses.. Nah mate, that was me hitting the ground :laugh::wings::Punk:
Twing twing twing
Repped!!!!!
tigertim20
14th August 2011, 23:00
That velcro scenario seems odd, if you never used the velcro for the knee sliders what force is being applied to enable the velcro to pull away one wonders ?:
No idea, he only uses them to commute, and his commute is about 6km each way, and theres never been aything attached to them.
Meantime try and get a blowy before you go to bed:laugh:
tried that once, didnt like the taste :no:
Quasievil
14th August 2011, 23:15
No idea, he only uses them to commute, and his commute is about 6km each way, and theres never been aything attached to them.
Wow weird huh, maybe some magical forces pulled the stitchin off in the night
another thing thats weird is there is only one row of stitching on the velcro when we use two.
Not to mention the weirdness of you happening to have some pics at the ready of your mates apparent Qmoto gear.
As I say tho, we usually get notified of any issues, thats because we are probably the most accessible retailer in this game in NZ, and with this in mind we fix what we fuck up, if we ever do that is, that offer goes out to the mystery freind also so let him know ok, tho im going to charge him for the fix as he shouldnt have left it so long eh ! did the whole slider velcro fall of on one day did it ?
PS, I have been wearing crashing and modifying this stuff since 2004 and that hasn't happened to any of my gear, however I tend to look after it.
tigertim20
14th August 2011, 23:29
Wow weird huh, maybe some magical forces pulled the stitchin off in the night
another thing thats weird is there is only one row of stitching on the velcro when we use two.
Not to mention the weirdness of you happening to have some pics at the ready of your mates apparent Qmoto gear.
.
I didnt have the pics at the ready, if you go back to the very start of the thread, youll notice in my first post that he was over here at the time, having been out riding. I took the photos after the start of the thread. Would you like more detailed photos to prove it? I can flick him a message and get more if you really want.
Funny how your sarcasm seems to distance yourself from responsibility for the failings of your product.
funny how much you love facts except when those facts are proof of a shortcoming in your product.
tigertim20
14th August 2011, 23:38
Wow weird huh, maybe some magical forces pulled the stitchin off in the night
Or your product has a weakness,shock, horror, scandal!!!another thing thats weird is there is only one row of stitching on the velcro when we use two.
well that photo is a pair of YOUR estremos, less than a year old, so you tell me.
Not to mention the weirdness of you happening to have some pics at the ready of your mates apparent Qmoto gear.
go reread the threadAs I say tho, we usually get notified of any issues, thats because we are probably the most accessible retailer in this game in NZ, and with this in mind we fix what we fuck up, if we ever do that is, that offer goes out to the mystery freind also so let him know ok, tho im going to charge him for the fix as he shouldnt have left it so long eh ! did the whole slider velcro fall of on one day did it ?
Again, read the thread again, he uses these daily for commuting, he doesnt want to be without them for a week to ten days while theyre are sent back and forth to be repaired, that aside, because he has never used the sliders, it isnt a big problem that they started to come adrift, so he left it. Im simply pointing out that your product is not perfectPS, I have been wearing crashing and modifying this stuff since 2004 and that hasn't happened to any of my gear, however I tend to look after it. - Oh I get it, you're perfect, your gear could never be at fault, no, youre perfect, we're all just rough cunts eh?
:laugh::laugh::laugh:
yod
14th August 2011, 23:39
another what's-the-best-leather-gear thread!?
entertainment plus!
:corn:
\m/
14th August 2011, 23:58
Damn this thread was a good laugh. :laugh:
TOTO
15th August 2011, 00:06
its been said before and its still very true - "You get what you pay for"
In the case of 1tonne and Qmoto, you pay pretty similar money and pretty much will get very similar stuff.
tigertim20
15th August 2011, 00:15
its been said before and its still very true - "You get what you pay for"
In the case of 1tonne and Qmoto, you pay pretty similar money and pretty much will get very similar stuff.
+1 10 chars
phaedrus
15th August 2011, 00:43
Wow weird huh, maybe some magical forces pulled the stitchin off in the night
another thing thats weird is there is only one row of stitching on the velcro when we use two.
yea, you use two.... now..
you'll have to settle for a phone camera photo.. that's the only camera i have to hand at the moment.
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Not to mention the weirdness of you happening to have some pics at the ready of your mates apparent Qmoto gear.
what's wierd about being round at a mates place when he's on kiwibiker?
As I say tho, we usually get notified of any issues, thats because we are probably the most accessible retailer in this game in NZ, and with this in mind we fix what we fuck up, if we ever do that is, that offer goes out to the mystery freind also so let him know ok, tho im going to charge him for the fix as he shouldnt have left it so long eh ! did the whole slider velcro fall of on one day did it ?
mystery fucking solved, i don't give a flying fuck about the sliders.. that's not why i bought the pants.. they were the only model with that type of armour that was in your range at the time.. having recently crashed that was kind of important to me.
from the frayed apperance of the velcro flap i suggest you look into the idea that is employed in ripstop (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripstop) nylon
PS, I have been wearing crashing and modifying this stuff since 2004 and that hasn't happened to any of my gear, however I tend to look after it.
+1 to TOTO (and +1 to 1tonne for making sure quasi's not the only game in town)
tigertim20
15th August 2011, 00:54
+1 to TOTO (and +1 to 1tonne for making sure quasi's not the only game in town)
thank god you're real man! i was starting to think Id made the whole thing up!! :shit:
Mort
15th August 2011, 01:17
thats because we are probably the most accessible retailer in this game in NZ, and with this in mind we fix what we fuck up, if we ever do that is
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Fuck me. I nearly fell off my chair at that one.
gsxr
15th August 2011, 01:42
If anyone needs leather repairs in Christchurch at a good price PM me .Bring bourbon or if your a cheap arse beer will do.
tigertim20
15th August 2011, 01:43
fuckit, next time ill just get me a set of these...:laugh:
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&drKey=42&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.r1-forum.com%2Fforums%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D320813&v=1&libid=1313329139628&out=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.udreplicas.com%2Findex.php%3F option%3Dcom_content%26view%3Darticle%26id%3D28&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.r1-forum.com%2F%3Fpage%3Dactive_topics&title=Bogies%20New%20Leathers...%20%3A%20Yamaha%20 R1%20Forum&txt=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.udreplicas.com%2Findex.php%3F ...%3Darticle%26amp%3Bid%3D28&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13133293744603
mulletman
15th August 2011, 02:42
I know I'm at high risk of starting a flame war between Quasi and 1Tonne, but I can't think over anywhere else to ask this. Just behave, you two :Police:
I'm in Welly and have just started getting into bikes. I got started with a motorbike jacket that is just plain old (30 years old!), but has been great for low-speed practice. It's well built and has been very cared for. I've got a helmet, boots and gloves as well, no worries, just missing the pants so far. Been wearing thermals and 2 pairs of jeans, but I know that's not enough.
So i'm now looking at getting some decent starting leather protection for my top and legs. I''ve been looking at a first set of 2-piece leathers for the road, not the track (obviously). Mostly commuting and eventually getting out of town for a trip or 3. I don't have a huge budget (I'd like to keep it under $700, ideally...) so I've tried to shave off some coin by looking online and have narrowed it down to these two 1Tonne and Qmoto 2-piece suits:
1Tonne's 2-piece Panther Suit:
http://www.1tonne.co.nz/index.php?page=listingDetails&prodid=76&sco=&categoryid=4
and Qmoto's Black Rock (under their QStreet line) 2-piece suit:
Jacket:
http://www.qmoto.co.nz/gear-shop/qmoto/qstreet-jackets?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=38&category_id=7
and Pants:
http://www.qmoto.co.nz/gear-shop/qmoto/qstreet-pants?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=50&category_id=8
But I'm torn over which one will be better for me, or which is the better value, or which features are really worth having. Can you guys please give me some advice?
1Tonne
Pros
Lower price by about $35
Has some hip padding
Cons
No hard armor on the shins
Unknown leather thickness (just states "Grade A+")
Are the foam protectors those two strips on the back? Is he wearing armor under?
What does 'multiple stitching' mean? Where is it stitched and how many times there?
Qmoto
Pros
Tripple Nylon Stitching
Padding on sides of arms
Padding on lower neck/upper shoulder
Hard armor on shins
Reflective piping (I do plan on night riding some)
Collar looks comfy
Cons
Doesn't look to have any tailbone padding
Not specified what armor is in the back of jacket (but did note two strips of additional padding)
No hip padding?
As far as I can tell, both have had great feedback and happy customers.
I won't be using the knee sliders, of course. Not that kind of rider, and I hear 1Tonne's wear out in one day anyway.
Can anyone vouch for comfort/fit?
How they hold up in a crash/multiple crashes? (I'm under the slight impression that Qmoto's stuff holds up a little better in a crash, most likely from the stitching.)
I'm ever, ever so slightly leaning towards Qmoto's suit at the moment, but I'm really tight on $ at the moment, and at the same time want good protection from a decent pair of leathers.
Help?
Whatever you get make sure you get a FULL zip sewn in to join pants and jacket, handy this time of year and if you have a wee fall your jacket wont ride up and expose your back (skin) to the ground, dont settle for a short (usually 8 to 10inches) zip.
sinfull
15th August 2011, 07:17
Was online window shopping yesterday and I do like the look of this one, double breasted is important to me as i do feel the cold on the chest a bit !
And By god it's endorsed by a TT racer
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/helmets-clothing-footwear/jackets/auction-398957689.htm
ynot slow
15th August 2011, 07:23
Ok have quasi set and is top knotch for me,have also seen 1 tonne pants a guy had on(and jacket)Iasked him how he found 1Tonne,his reply bloody good gear for the price,he used his 1Tonne to ride on road and trackdays on his road bike,but for race days had a 1 piece suit from sponsors etc.
Maha
15th August 2011, 07:45
1Tonne ''Endorsed by Shaun Harris''..for someone like Shaun to have his name used against a product, it must rate?
Maha
15th August 2011, 08:27
Also I dont make a living of it, I dont even need it, its a hobbie, I work for a corporate.
Probably not your best response Quasi to be honest..
Building a model railway or trimming bonzai tress is a hobby.
Supplying protective gear to the motorcycling public should be taken a bit more seriously than.....a hobby.
And I know you do take it seriously.
There is gear better than and lesser than QMoto, even you would agree with that.
QMoto gear can been seen everywhere and most QM gear owner/wearers swear by it.
Thats something you should be proud of.
Scuba_Steve
15th August 2011, 08:49
1Tonne ''Endorsed by Shaun Harris''..for someone like Shaun to have his name used against a product, it must rate?
nope, just means he got paid. Not saying that makes the gear bad or good just don't rely on "celebrity endorsements".
Maha
15th August 2011, 08:56
nope, just means he got paid. Not saying that makes the gear bad or good just don't rely on "celebrity endorsements".
Was kind of my point..
Nothing can come back at Mr Harris if the gear fails so....would he in fact wear it? own it?
I may have missed any post he has made about how fantastic 1Tonne gear is in the past, but I doubt it.
Like I said ...there is gear better and lesser than what you eventually end up with.
Vacquer0
15th August 2011, 09:05
Sorry about the hijack but I was lurking about the thread and thought I would ask. Been unable to get a reply so far. Are there reputable Kiwi manufacturers that would be interested in exporting biker related items to the states? What kind of shipping or other issues are we facing? Please contact me if you have any info.
Thanks again, KB.
Maha
15th August 2011, 09:11
Sorry about the hijack but I was lurking about the thread and thought I would ask. Been unable to get a reply so far. Are there reputable Kiwi manufacturers that would be interested in exporting biker related items to the states? What kind of shipping or other issues are we facing? Please contact me if you have any info.
Thanks again, KB.
Keep trying, someone hungry enough will answer your call.
Some Kiwi Businesses are to relaxed around replying to an enquiry about excepting money off the buying public.
Quasievil
15th August 2011, 09:13
Someone should copy and paste the specs from each of the brands top sports jackets and do the comparision spec for spec?
Say the Qrace vengeance against the 1 tonne Race suit black hawk jacket ??
here are a few differences to kick it off
Qmoto has KNOX armour ............1 Tonne has a Satra CE
Qmoto has a Full Circumference Zip..............1 tonne dont
Qmoto is Triple stitched with kevlar............1 tonne is double with nylon
you can keep going.
:laugh:
Vacquer0
15th August 2011, 09:17
Been coming to KB for a few years for help and info I couldn't find anywhere else. Your overall kindness to each other and sense of humor is impressive. That and you guys are nuts about your riding. We are not that different.
White trash
15th August 2011, 09:43
From personal experience right here. (No longer a Q-Moto sponsored rider)
I have had two QMoto Race suits, one of the old 2nd gen Titaniums and a later one and I ride daily in a five year old Quasimoto Vengence jacket.
My first race suit I will have crashed over 10 times in. Two of those crashes at spectacular pace. Zero injuries, suit still perfectly servicable when I passed it on to a broken arse rider when I got my next suit. Second suit I never crashed in but the fit and comfort was like nothing I've been lucky enough to wear since. Bloody beautiful piece of work.
My Vengence jacket I've crashed twice in. First was 4 years ago when I wrote off my partners SV650 at about 60kph on a diesel slick on a motorway on ramp. (Onehunga heading south if you're familiar). Zero injury. More recently, 10 months back when I highsided an R1 at fairly good pace. Concussed myself pretty well but I can hardly blame the jacket. What's really interesting, is I've crashed bikes alot, I mean ALOT, over the past 20 years of road riding. Whith every single crash I've ever had prior to the ones outliend above, because I'm a boney bastard, I suffer nasty impact grazes on my knees, hips and elbows. Even if the gear is largely unscaithed, I'm missing big chunks of skin and flesh in these areas after a crash.
Over the past five years, I've not suffered a single impact graze on a QMoto protected area of my body. Not one.
I work in a bike shop, I have access to better than wholesale prices on any gear I wish to purchase. Now that my Vengence is starting to pull the seams apart on the back panel, I will be replacing it with QMoto gear.
There ya go, personal experience.
sugilite
15th August 2011, 11:14
When I 1st saw this thread, I thought, it would be nice for the two dealers to keep out of it all together and let peoples own personal experiences speak for themselves. Own foot -aim -load- fire :facepalm:
Owl
15th August 2011, 12:12
I may have missed any post he has made about how fantastic 1Tonne gear is in the past, but I doubt it.
He has, but then Continental tyres were fantastic too.:shutup:
Scoobydoo
15th August 2011, 16:32
When I 1st saw this thread, I thought, it would be nice for the two dealers to keep out of it all together and let peoples own personal experiences speak for themselves. Own foot -aim -load- fire :facepalm:
+1
I just spent 1K on gear. I did a bit of research on KB beforehand and because of a particular persons posts on here i didnt even consider them or check their website before buying elsewhere.
If the gear is good enough then it will speak for itself and people will vouch for it when required without the vendor having to get involved in the discussion.
Maha
15th August 2011, 16:43
The ongoing need to justify a brand is laughable and then to come out and say it just a hobby is ridiculous.
...By all means do the hard sell if thats what it takes but using a little maturity and tact will go a long way to ensure your business a success.
Quasievil
15th August 2011, 16:51
The ongoing need to justify a brand is laughable and then to come out and say it just a hobby is ridiculous.
...By all means do the hard sell if thats what it takes but using a little maturity and tact will go a long way to ensure your business a success.
Oh dear Maha Maha Maha, I been going for 8 years and still going thanks, whats wrong with having a little business on the side, is the word a "hobby" not ideal ?
whats the negative in the word Hobby ?
Shall I call it a home based business, would that make you happier?
Hard Sell wtf, I dont need to buddy specs and performance speak for them selves dude.
it would surprise alot of people that the world is a fuck load bigger than KB
tigertim20
15th August 2011, 16:52
Nothing can come back at Mr Harris if the gear fails so....would he in fact wear it? own it?
.
he has been quoted as saying he would happily wear 1tonne gear if he were to race again
When I 1st saw this thread, I thought, it would be nice for the two dealers to keep out of it all together and let peoples own personal experiences speak for themselves. Own foot -aim -load- fire :facepalm:
agree, obviously they are going to back their own product!!
The ongoing need to justify a brand is laughable and then to come out and say it just a hobby is ridiculous.
...By all means do the hard sell if thats what it takes but using a little maturity and tact will go a long way to ensure your business a success.
+1.
JMemonic
15th August 2011, 17:57
fuckit, next time ill just get me a set of these...:laugh:
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&drKey=42&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.r1-forum.com%2Fforums%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D320813&v=1&libid=1313329139628&out=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.udreplicas.com%2Findex.php%3F option%3Dcom_content%26view%3Darticle%26id%3D28&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.r1-forum.com%2F%3Fpage%3Dactive_topics&title=Bogies%20New%20Leathers...%20%3A%20Yamaha%20 R1%20Forum&txt=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.udreplicas.com%2Findex.php%3F ...%3Darticle%26amp%3Bid%3D28&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13133293744603
You would, I can just see you at the next rally, and I already hear the grief from the pink pursed one :laugh:
Maha
15th August 2011, 17:59
Oh dear Maha Maha Maha, I been going for 8 years and still going thanks, whats wrong with having a little business on the side, is the word a "hobby" not ideal ?
whats the negative in the word Hobby ?
Shall I call it a home based business, would that make you happier?
Hard Sell wtf, I dont need to buddy specs and performance speak for them selves dude.
it would surprise alot of people that the world is a fuck load bigger than KB
So why are you all too quick to climb up all over a competitors gear?
Is KB your domain?
Are others not allowed to pedal their gear on here?
If QMoto ''specs and performance speak for them selves'' ..why would you even feel the need to justify this very point time after time?
Do the buying public need reassuring?
I recall not so long ago yourself and Mr 1Tonne coming to some agreement over the issue of gear slapping online?
steve_t
15th August 2011, 18:01
fuckit, next time ill just get me a set of these...:laugh:
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&drKey=42&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.r1-forum.com%2Fforums%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D320813&v=1&libid=1313329139628&out=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.udreplicas.com%2Findex.php%3F option%3Dcom_content%26view%3Darticle%26id%3D28&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.r1-forum.com%2F%3Fpage%3Dactive_topics&title=Bogies%20New%20Leathers...%20%3A%20Yamaha%20 R1%20Forum&txt=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.udreplicas.com%2Findex.php%3F ...%3Darticle%26amp%3Bid%3D28&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13133293744603
How will you decide whether to wear these or your Batman Dark Knight leathers? :ride:
Quasievil
15th August 2011, 18:16
So why are you all too quick to climb up all over a competitors gear?
1tonne arent a competitor, Alpinestar and Revit and similair are our competitors
why would I set my sights so low, anyone can import gear cheap, I dont do that.
Is KB your domain?
No its Spanks, he owns it not me
Are others not allowed to pedal their gear on here?
not many bother no, KB isnt the world you know
If QMoto ''specs and performance speak for them selves'' ..why would you even feel the need to justify this very point time after time?
because I was invited to as a member like anyone else
Do the buying public need reassuring?
Yes, many dont read specs they just read price tag and many get ripped off
I recall not so long ago yourself and Mr 1Tonne coming to some agreement over the issue of gear slapping online?
Who is slapping ? Im not even concerned about 1tonne, if I was I would have imported a heap of low priced stuff and dumped it on the market for a low price like 1 tonne and Moshin and the other trademe sellers have done or do, Im not interested in that market, not even remotely...........its theirs they can have it good luck
Can someone start a thread Qmoto vs Alpinestar so I can take on someone worthy ?:shit:
Mom
15th August 2011, 18:39
FFS! When will a gear discussion be just that, a discussion.
tigertim20
15th August 2011, 18:42
You would, I can just see you at the next rally, and I already hear the grief from the pink pursed one :laugh:
Ill sei fthey can do him a pink one to match his purse.
OK, so explain this to me, an alpinestars suit is about $899
or I could buy a qausi viper and estremos, giving me a 2 piece, for a total of what $765? - actually i believe i was offered estremos for $50 off when i got my jacket as a package, so that could be as low as $715
So your prices are over a hundred bucks difference to alpine stars for the same qaulity.
So If you can provide the same qaulity for a lesser price than a competitor, why is it an impossible task that someone elsemight be able to make over-all equivalent qaulity stuff for the same, or a fraction less?
Are you an international giant with greater buying power thus giving you better purchase price than alpinestar, hence your lower prices? - no, its 'just a hobby'
You arent doing yourself any favours qausi, and frankly you lose potential customers every time you post on gear threads.
After all the 'my gear is awesome and we dont make fuckups' comments you made last night, I posted pictures of TWO of your products that are only months old that were deteriorating, and you basically accused me of a) making it up b) tried to say the gear in the photos wasnt your gear at all and c) accused me of fabricating the existence of another customer with damaged qausi gear.
Youve lost me as a repeat customer, and you have definitely lost me as someone who, up untill yesterday, had actively gone out and recommended your gear to others.
If you are asconfident in your gear as you say, then there would be no need to come on here, it would sell itself.
Oh, and for what its worth, I dont consider qausi gear to be as good as alpinestar, its good gear, but not that good.
alpinestar http://www.alpinestars.com/shop/categories/moto/suits/2-pc-suits/monza-2pc-leather-suit/
qausi http://qmoto.co.nz/gear-shop/qmoto/qrace-jackets?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=33&category_id=5
and http://qmoto.co.nz/gear-shop/qmoto/qrace-pants?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=43&category_id=6
wysper
15th August 2011, 18:44
I wear Qmoto gear. Jacket and pants.
I am happy with the quality, can't speak for crashing in them, haven't tried that yet.
When I come to replace my gear I will check out Qmoto's range. However I will probably end up with something else because I am now riding a cruiser and don't feel as comfortable with the armour where it is in the gear I have now.
If quasi has a more cruiser oriented range I would look at that. The next set of leather for me would be more based around comfort than protection.
So possibly a more supple leather with a nicer liner, a more relaxed cut. But that isn't what Qmoto is about so expecting that from the gear wouldn't be right.
I have had the odd issue with my gear and Quasi fixed it up no worries, even went beyond what I would expect him to do on an old jacket on the most recent of occasions.
So what I am saying to the OP is consider your riding style and what you are wanting from your gear too. Maybe that will point you in one direction or the other.
Sure he can come across a little prickly some times and even a tad aggressive, but I have definitely got what I paid for from his gear.
steve_t
15th August 2011, 18:55
OK, so explain this to me, an alpinestars suit is about $899
Is that US$ or NZ$?
nzspokes
15th August 2011, 19:05
Moshin and the other trademe sellers have done or do, Im not interested in that market, not even remotely...........its theirs they can have it good luck
Can someone start a thread Qmoto vs Alpinestar so I can take on someone worthy ?:shit:
I have a Moshin jacket which I really like and am about to buy a Shift summer one. I guess im scum and not worthy to in the same country. <_<
Quasievil
15th August 2011, 19:20
You arent doing yourself any favours qausi, and frankly you lose potential customers every time you post on gear threads.
Not true actually I got two sales today related to this:Punk:
and further not true when I post in gear threads and give stuff away for free or for next to nothing, the amount of people I have helped out on this site is significant.
I cant help it if my specs are better than 1tonne, its not made up its a fact, as requested by this thread name which was Qmoto vs 1 tonne
I rose to the challenge and Qmoto is the clear winner unless someone can post up a better spec for like products???? no ..............no one ???
carver
15th August 2011, 19:27
i find all that cheap shit is too bulky and heavy, like being a fat chic for a day
Quasievil
15th August 2011, 19:37
After all the 'my gear is awesome and we dont make fuckups' comments you made last night, I posted pictures of TWO of your products that are only months old that were deteriorating
Youre such a shit stirrer whoever you are behind youre screen name.
And frankly posting up pictures and complaining without even making us aware of your issue is nothing but wanky
Last night I even offered to fix your unusual velcro issue.
Youve lost me as a repeat customer, and you have definitely lost me as someone who, up untill yesterday, had actively gone out and recommended your gear to others.
This is good news as wanky customers are not required or wanted.
If you are asconfident in your gear as you say, then there would be no need to come on here, it would sell itself.
Im a member of 8 years who the fuck are you ?
carver
15th August 2011, 19:43
Ill sei fthey can do him a pink one to match his purse.
OK, so explain this to me, an alpinestars suit is about $899
or I could buy a qausi viper and estremos, giving me a 2 piece, for a total of what $765? - actually i believe i was offered estremos for $50 off when i got my jacket as a package, so that could be as low as $715
So your prices are over a hundred bucks difference to alpine stars for the same qaulity.
So If you can provide the same qaulity for a lesser price than a competitor, why is it an impossible task that someone elsemight be able to make over-all equivalent qaulity stuff for the same, or a fraction less?
Are you an international giant with greater buying power thus giving you better purchase price than alpinestar, hence your lower prices? - no, its 'just a hobby'
You arent doing yourself any favours qausi, and frankly you lose potential customers every time you post on gear threads.
After all the 'my gear is awesome and we dont make fuckups' comments you made last night, I posted pictures of TWO of your products that are only months old that were deteriorating, and you basically accused me of a) making it up b) tried to say the gear in the photos wasnt your gear at all and c) accused me of fabricating the existence of another customer with damaged qausi gear.
Youve lost me as a repeat customer, and you have definitely lost me as someone who, up untill yesterday, had actively gone out and recommended your gear to others.
If you are asconfident in your gear as you say, then there would be no need to come on here, it would sell itself.
Oh, and for what its worth, I dont consider qausi gear to be as good as alpinestar, its good gear, but not that good.
alpinestar http://www.alpinestars.com/shop/categories/moto/suits/2-pc-suits/monza-2pc-leather-suit/
qausi http://qmoto.co.nz/gear-shop/qmoto/qrace-jackets?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=33&category_id=5
and http://qmoto.co.nz/gear-shop/qmoto/qrace-pants?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=43&category_id=6
fuck you homo, i want to be the one slagging quasi!
stop stealing my thunder!
Hitcher
15th August 2011, 20:07
First step: R&R. Any more of this nonsense and it's bound for PD.
MIXONE
15th August 2011, 20:10
fuck you homo, i want to be the one slagging quasi!
stop stealing my thunder!
Welcome to the thread pillow biter.It's been a bit quiet lately...
tigertim20
15th August 2011, 20:20
Is that US$ or NZ$?
good question, i dunno, link is at the bottom of that post, in case qausi accused me of telling lies again.
Youre such a shit stirrer whoever you are behind youre screen name.
Well actually My name is tim, I live in dunedin and ride a blue R1. Since I purchased from you in the last few months, if you go through your emails, you will see that you ALREADY know my name, (first and last), my address, my phone number, and you know my waist size (peow peow - you said it was to measure the jacket.... right?) - clearly im not hiding
And frankly posting up pictures and complaining without even making us aware of your issue is nothing but wanky
Last night I even offered to fix your unusual velcro issue.
Take a remedial reading class dooooode! I already explained that having you repair my gear means me being without it for like, a week, and who knows what you do with other dude's leather bits...
This is good news as wanky customers are not required or wanted.
thats not what you said when i bought a jacket, do I get my money back now?
Im a member of 8 years who the fuck are you ?
My name is tim, and Im an alcoholic...
fuck you homo, i want to be the one slagging quasi!
stop stealing my thunder!
its a team sport, here, Ill tag you in...
Dodgy_Matt
15th August 2011, 20:55
Well I for one won’t be buying any Qmoto gear, nor will I recommending it to any one is interested in getting any bike gear.
I have found that with the input from the seller of this "stuff" to come across as a bit, of a for lack of a better word, knob and someone who’s aftersales service would be less than attractive with "oh you must have fucked up coz My gear doesn’t do that... what did you do wear it?"
And having asked a question about a size of an item they were selling and got the short shift.... (Edit: I notice that the response to my question has now been changed??)
You have an awesome manner about you Mr Qmoto... great way to sell your product.
Maha
15th August 2011, 21:07
Also I dont make a living of it, I dont even need it, its a hobbie, I work for a corporate.
What make of Truck do you drive again?:confused:
avgas
15th August 2011, 21:15
Last time I checked 1tonne and Qmoto are in 2 different markets.
1tonne are targeting the lower mass market where as Qmoto are more product leaders.
Marketing Jargon aside. Whats your budget?
Cheap - 1tonne have fantastic gear
Expensive - Qmoto gear is better but you pay for it.
Quasievil
15th August 2011, 21:33
Well I for one won’t be buying any Qmoto gear, nor will I recommending it to any one is interested in getting any bike gear.
Thats ok random persona on KB
I have found that with the input from the seller of this "stuff" to come across as a bit, of a for lack of a better word, knob and someone who’s aftersales service would be less than attractive with "oh you must have fucked up coz My gear doesn’t do that... what did you do wear it?"
Which part of, "send it back and I will fix it" didnt you understand?
And having asked a question about a size of an item they were selling and got the short shift....
??????????????????
You have an awesome manner about you Mr Qmoto... great way to sell your product.
Thank you, after 8 odd years in this game its certainly helps. We do our best
Mom
15th August 2011, 21:33
i find all that cheap shit is too bulky and heavy, like being a fat chic for a day
Dont you diss fat chicks! Wanker!
First step: R&R. Any more of this nonsense and it's bound for PD.
Please leave it out here, we have not had fun in ages :innocent:
Quasievil
15th August 2011, 21:37
What make of Truck do you drive again?:confused:
Wow you really behind the 8 ball Maha, I havent done that for years dude.
I sell Chinese imported Lino and Carpet now and import Chinese and or Thai labourers to install the high quality products into larger construction sites.
Works well Ive been doing it for about 4 years, most of the business is in the Auckland region.
avgas
15th August 2011, 21:47
1Tonne ''Endorsed by Shaun Harris''..for someone like Shaun to have his name used against a product, it must rate?
It does. Its not shit.
Does not always mean its the best.
Some famous people endorsed Bridgecorp. Thank goodness Shaun was smarter than them.
Mom
15th August 2011, 21:48
Wow you really behind the 8 ball Maha, I havent done that for years dude.
I sell Chinese imported Lino and Carpet now and import Chinese and or Thai labourers to install the high quality products into larger construction sites.
Works well Ive been doing it for about 4 years, most of the business is in the Auckland region.
Give me strength! Do you not know when to STFU!
Quasievil
15th August 2011, 21:52
Give me strength! Do you not know when to STFU!
lol I know I was really really trying to bait the Maha the bugger to, lol
STFU is probably about now I shit stirred enough I guess
was fun tho Mom:laugh:
flyingcrocodile46
15th August 2011, 22:07
When I 1st saw this thread, I thought, it would be nice for the two dealers to keep out of it all together and let peoples own personal experiences speak for themselves. Own foot -aim -load- fire :facepalm:
Yes! Pretty sus how the OP hasn't been back since conveniently supplying Quasi the shotgun and cartridge. Pretty clever though.
Makes me look more favorably at 1Tonnes gear without even looking at price and quality issues.
DrunkenMistake
15th August 2011, 22:20
This entire thread reminds me of when I was at highschool,
You could lock a bunch of snotty teenage bitches into a room and toss in one tampon, shit the door and listen to the whiny bitchy pointless sound come from within.
The OP's question was which is better,
Long Answer.
They both have ups and they both have downs,
Example:
As pointed out by Quasi
All his gear has Knox Armour support and tripple stitching etc etc, But is considerably harder on the wallet.
1Tonne has cheap C.E approved Armour in its stuff and some other points that were made, cant remember off the top of my head atm, but is alot cheaper,
Short Answer.
Depends on your Budget, both brands are good, both brands have positive feed back.
Now can everyone get off their Rags?
flyingcrocodile46
15th August 2011, 22:23
I rose to the challenge and Qmoto is the clear winner unless someone can post up a better spec for like products???? no ..............no one ???
Sounds like a gold medal winners speech after taking out the the win in the Wank Cracker race at the 'Extra' Special Olympics.
Go you good thing :laugh:
Quasievil
15th August 2011, 22:55
Sounds like a gold medal winners speech after taking out the the win in the Wank Cracker race at the 'Extra' Special Olympics.
Go you good thing :laugh:
WOW so much hate there fella, let me think ............oh thats right you hated me from the leaky building thread thats right, ok as you where
KB is so much about the love:laugh:
Mort
15th August 2011, 23:08
Yes! Pretty sus how the OP hasn't been back since conveniently supplying Quasi the shotgun and cartridge. Pretty clever though.
Makes me look more favorably at 1Tonnes gear without even looking at price and quality issues.
Yeah , something stinks in Denmark as they say.
jazfender
15th August 2011, 23:22
Distinct lack of babes on the qmoto site...
DrunkenMistake
15th August 2011, 23:28
Distinct lack of babes on the qmoto site...
+1, could help advertising Quasi..
flyingcrocodile46
15th August 2011, 23:48
WOW so much hate there fella, let me think ............oh thats right you hated me from the leaky building thread thats right, ok as you where
KB is so much about the love:laugh:
Pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft The only emotion you stimulate is eyegasms and that is only a result of the severe eye rolling that your posts cause.
Katman
16th August 2011, 00:23
Alpinestar and similair are our competitors
:killingme
tigertim20
16th August 2011, 00:25
, anyone can import gear cheap, I dont do that.
Im not even concerned about 1tonne, if I was I would have imported a heap of low priced stuff and dumped it on the market for a low price :
I sell Chinese imported Lino and Carpet now and import Chinese and or Thai labourers to install .
WHOAH!! THE TRUTH COMES OUT
so, you rip out 1tonne, because they import stuff for a living,and then, Lo and BEHOLD!!
QAUSI ADMITS THAT HE MAKES HIS LIVING BY IMPORTING CHEAP CHINESE SHIT!!!!! fuckin hell man! clearly you have some explaining to do qausi, How come its all fine and dandy for you to import cheap shit from china to make a living, but its not OK for 1tonne to import stuff and sell it for a living?
fuck it really sounds like hypocrisy to me
can you explain this qausi? :no::no:
is itbecause your shit doesnt stink?:no::laugh:
or maybe youre full of shit?:shifty:<_<:shit::laugh:
answers to the above please qausi, I dont think I can sleep without answers!!!
Katman
16th August 2011, 00:26
Im a member of 8 years who the fuck are you ?
More like, you're an 8 year old's member.
Urano
16th August 2011, 05:08
I know I'm at high risk of starting a flame war
don't like the way the topic begin, so, i'll keep it straight and focused.
1st- take a look around, use the search here and google everywhere else. u lack basics and need to understand what is really to look for and what is, simply, useless.
2nd- try both. you can read for days but if there's a stitch in the middle of your "low back" and you don't find it comfy, well, u'd find out too late...
3rd- i strongly disagree with the use of integrated bp. back protectors have to be "stand alone". no replies on that...
then:
1Tonne
Qmoto
Help?
35$ is nothing. simply not a factor. if you're concerned about 35 dollars i'd have to warn you that motorcycling is an expensive hobby, and anyway while you're scratching on the ground you will regret any cent not spent on your gear.
quickly:
hip protectors ARE important, sliders are not.
reflective inserts are smart, but i truly suggest you not to buy black gear, at least not on the upper half.
collar and wrist lining are critical, but you have to decide the use u'll do of your bike, and you have told us nothing about that.
last but not least, as i always say, consider to buy certified gear. it well worth it.
Quasievil
16th August 2011, 07:43
WHOAH!! THE TRUTH COMES OUT
so, you rip out 1tonne, because they import stuff for a living,and then, Lo and BEHOLD!!
QAUSI ADMITS THAT HE MAKES HIS LIVING BY IMPORTING CHEAP CHINESE SHIT!!!!! fuckin hell man! clearly you have some explaining to do qausi, How come its all fine and dandy for you to import cheap shit from china to make a living, but its not OK for 1tonne to import stuff and sell it for a living?
fuck it really sounds like hypocrisy to me
can you explain this qausi? :no::no:
is itbecause your shit doesnt stink?:no::laugh:
or maybe youre full of shit?:shifty:<_<:shit::laugh:
answers to the above please qausi, I dont think I can sleep without answers!!!
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
You guys dont even know when youre being played lol
Quasievil
16th August 2011, 07:55
:killingme
Oh yeah this is New Zealand forgot.
anyway introducing 1 tonne
take it away 1 tonne
nzspokes
16th August 2011, 07:58
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
You guys dont even know when youre being played lol
Guess you've never had any business training about customer service and professionalism. :no:
Way to kill your business. :brick:
Paul in NZ
16th August 2011, 08:06
I know fuck all about leathers etc other than it looks better on hot chicks than it does on cows. HOWEVER I know a bit about sales and marketing and if I was looking for a guy to employ to sell / promote MY product or company I'd employ MrQuasi.
He is passionate about it and is 100% committed to his brand - bravo I say. You cannot possibly knock a guy for promoting his stuff and defending his reputation and I'd rather my stuff came from someone with a bit of character!
I do have a pair of his wonderful trousers and they really are wonderful and being on sale, much cheaper than buying a cow and doing it myself (which is important). They would be perfect but alas are missing a codpiece of gigantic proportions - something my generation considers essential and frankly a shocking omission but I forgive him that - hes young and probably doesnt need one (yet)...
PirateJafa
16th August 2011, 08:07
Well I for one won’t be buying any Qmoto gear, nor will I recommending it to any one is interested in getting any bike gear.
I have found that with the input from the seller of this "stuff" to come across as a bit, of a for lack of a better word, knob and someone who’s aftersales service would be less than attractive with "oh you must have fucked up coz My gear doesn’t do that... what did you do wear it?"
Hah, sounds like pretty much the same "service" I received. "Oh you must've spilt acid on them"... wait what? Apparently his gear isn't designed to withstand rain.
And then let's not get into his "top end race-spec" gloves falling apart a couple of months after purchase too. Still, that was my bad, I'd been convinced to give the rubbish a second shot by a friend. No biggie though, they were dirt cheap though, clearly for a reason (feel sorry for the guys that bought them at full price though).
Love supporting local businesses, but not when they're taking ya for a ride.
Quasievil
16th August 2011, 08:07
Guess you've never had any business training about customer service and professionalism. :no:
Way to kill your business. :brick:
only a few would get it, your not one of them
sorry about the lack of tits also, here are some now to satisfy your cravings
Quasievil
16th August 2011, 08:21
Hah, sounds like pretty much the same "service" I received. "Oh you must've spilt acid on them"... wait what? Apparently his gear isn't designed to withstand rain.
They where Jeans actually, jeans dont withstand rain, and yes you spilt Acid on them as verified by your freind, I wasnt born yesterday mate, any legitimate claim is no problem at all to sort out.
And then let's not get into his "top end race-spec" gloves falling apart a couple of months after purchase too. Still, that was my bad, I'd been convinced to give the rubbish a second shot by a friend. No biggie though, they were dirt cheap though, clearly for a reason (feel sorry for the guys that bought them at full price though).
We dont know about the gloves you mention, I can say however that we sold many mnay gloves without issue.
if you had an issue you would of just had to return them, we havent seen them.
Love supporting local businesses, but not when they're taking ya for a ride.
We havent organised a ride for a while, perhaps we can do this in the summer
Businesses all have issues arise, we try to sort them as fast as possible, sadly many customers are experts at taking businesses for a ride and sadly your one of them.
good luck to you however
curly
16th August 2011, 08:58
:corn::corn::corn::corn::corn::corn::corn::corn::c orn::corn::corn::corn:
Biggles08
16th August 2011, 09:29
WHOAH!! THE TRUTH COMES OUT
so, you rip out 1tonne, because they import stuff for a living,and then, Lo and BEHOLD!!
QAUSI ADMITS THAT HE MAKES HIS LIVING BY IMPORTING CHEAP CHINESE SHIT!!!!! fuckin hell man! clearly you have some explaining to do qausi, How come its all fine and dandy for you to import cheap shit from china to make a living, but its not OK for 1tonne to import stuff and sell it for a living?
fuck it really sounds like hypocrisy to me
can you explain this qausi? :no::no:
is itbecause your shit doesnt stink?:no::laugh:
or maybe youre full of shit?:shifty:<_<:shit::laugh:
answers to the above please qausi, I dont think I can sleep without answers!!!
hahaha...that's some funny bait biting right there!
For the OP, check out this pic
244787
I landed square on my left shoulder and not even a bruise on it the next day.
Armour IS EVERYTHING in a crash. $35?!?! WTF are you even asking for, protect your bones and skin with product you trust.
I personally have no problem with 1tonne gear as I have never tried it...heard some dodgy stuff but then I guess people have heard the same about other brands too. I have tried some of the bigger brands like REV-IT and Technics etc. I rate my Qmoto race suit higher than these two brands (based on my experience with them only) by its ability to crash well and its fit. Personally Quasi is a wanker but hey...there are only wankers and liers eh...at least we know Quasi doesn't lie!:tugger:
yod
16th August 2011, 09:43
and on and on it merrily rolls.....
:corn:
ckai
16th August 2011, 10:04
WHOAH!! THE TRUTH COMES OUT
so, you rip out 1tonne, because they import stuff for a living,and then, Lo and BEHOLD!!
QAUSI ADMITS THAT HE MAKES HIS LIVING BY IMPORTING CHEAP CHINESE SHIT!!!!! fuckin hell man! clearly you have some explaining to do qausi, How come its all fine and dandy for you to import cheap shit from china to make a living, but its not OK for 1tonne to import stuff and sell it for a living?
fuck it really sounds like hypocrisy to me
can you explain this qausi? :no::no:
is itbecause your shit doesnt stink?:no::laugh:
or maybe youre full of shit?:shifty:<_<:shit::laugh:
answers to the above please qausi, I dont think I can sleep without answers!!!
Wooohooo ya's got a big one. I thought this was quite funny actually. Personally I thought it was pretty obvious sarcasm from Mr Q, I mean it was rather contradictory. Then again, this could be sarcasm...shit I'm confused now:mellow:
Just a question though, what's with the "qausi"? Honest mistake or deliberate "stick it to him"?
don't like the way the topic begin, so, i'll keep it straight and focused.
1st- take a look around, use the search here and google everywhere else. u lack basics and need to understand what is really to look for and what is, simply, useless.
2nd- try both. you can read for days but if there's a stitch in the middle of your "low back" and you don't find it comfy, well, u'd find out too late...
3rd- i strongly disagree with the use of integrated bp. back protectors have to be "stand alone". no replies on that...
then:
35$ is nothing. simply not a factor. if you're concerned about 35 dollars i'd have to warn you that motorcycling is an expensive hobby, and anyway while you're scratching on the ground you will regret any cent not spent on your gear.
quickly:
hip protectors ARE important, sliders are not.
reflective inserts are smart, but i truly suggest you not to buy black gear, at least not on the upper half.
collar and wrist lining are critical, but you have to decide the use u'll do of your bike, and you have told us nothing about that.
last but not least, as i always say, consider to buy certified gear. it well worth it.
Totally agree, HIP PROTECTION IS VERY IMPORTANT (experience), and with everything else that was said. You will be hard pressed to find decent hip armour in any gear gear built in though. It really restricts movement, but protection shorts are a good compromise.
ARMOUR IS VERY IMPORTANT (experience). Unless you slide you WILL break bones where you don't have armour.
The only issue I have with my jacket, and it is actually irrelevant what it is, is that the arms are too short meaning it's not as comfy as it could be. You gotta be comfy in your gear.
Armour IS EVERYTHING in a crash. $35?!?! WTF are you even asking for, protect your bones and skin with product you trust.
I personally have no problem with 1tonne gear as I have never tried it...heard some dodgy stuff but then I guess people have heard the same about other brands too. I have tried some of the bigger brands like REV-IT and Technics etc. I rate my Qmoto race suit higher than these two brands (based on my experience with them only) by its ability to crash well and its fit. Personally Quasi is a wanker but hey...there are only wankers and liers eh...at least we know Quasi doesn't lie!:tugger:
Yip $35 is such a small amount it's even kinda weird mentioning it. You could almost negotiate to get that knocked off whatever you chose.
Quasievil
16th August 2011, 10:29
Yes Hip protection is important, no question, however if it was a standard addition to a suit it would not be a good seller as many are concerned about "the look" wide hips are not what people want (especially females) , we can put in foam, but foam isnt a protector, foam is foam and foam isnt CE approved in the hip or in the back.
If a customer has a concern about hips we up spec to include these, proper KNOX CE approved hip armour these will actually protect you properly.
http://qmoto.co.nz/gear-shop/knox/lower-body?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=46&category_id=13
The Pastor
16th August 2011, 11:34
im going to regret this.
I do not have any experience of 1tonne.
Quasi gear is good for the price. (not the best gear out)
I'm not sure if shin armour is a hugely important, knee armour is where its at.
The foam padding dosen't do shit.
The most important thing is the fit, get the gear that fits the best.
Edit, one bad thing about qmoto, is the muppet who sells them.
Quasievil
16th August 2011, 11:40
Edit, one bad thing about qmoto, is the muppet who sells them.
:laugh:how come it took you so long to turn up
kiwifruit
16th August 2011, 11:52
<iframe width="560" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/LtfQg4KkR88" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
DrunkenMistake
16th August 2011, 11:57
WHOAH!! THE TRUTH COMES OUT
so, you rip out 1tonne, because they import stuff for a living,and then, Lo and BEHOLD!!
QAUSI ADMITS THAT HE MAKES HIS LIVING BY IMPORTING CHEAP CHINESE SHIT!!!!! fuckin hell man! clearly you have some explaining to do qausi, How come its all fine and dandy for you to import cheap shit from china to make a living, but its not OK for 1tonne to import stuff and sell it for a living?
fuck it really sounds like hypocrisy to me
can you explain this qausi? :no::no:
is itbecause your shit doesnt stink?:no::laugh:
or maybe youre full of shit?:shifty:<_<:shit::laugh:
answers to the above please qausi, I dont think I can sleep without answers!!!
I think you bit the bate there TT, his Chinese import thing, I though was a clear inside joke dig at Maha ..
:laugh::laugh:
ducatilover
16th August 2011, 12:04
Who's up for a reach around? :love:
DrunkenMistake
16th August 2011, 12:05
Who's up for a reach around? :love:
Great thing about a reach around is, if feels like you'v gone all the way through :Punk:
yod
16th August 2011, 12:15
Great thing about a reach around is, if feels like you'v gone all the way through :Punk:
:sick:
i knew i shouldn't have eaten all that popcorn
ducatilover
16th August 2011, 12:22
Great thing about a reach around is, if feels like you'v gone all the way through :Punk:
:laugh: It's great isn't it? Like splitting a dead rat with your mate.
JMemonic
16th August 2011, 12:30
Quasi, I think you might need to take a step back and realise whist I am sure you make you gear to specifications you say are the best your gear does not suit everyone, its more race orientated than I personally want, (or would look appropriate wearing), some of the 1tonne gear would suit me better in appearance and functionality.
So far you have not yet sold me on the gear you provide, the only thing you have done is let me know how passionate you are about yours being the "best" but for what I am yet to determine, some folks have come to your defence and said things like my Quasi gear has survived x number of crashes, hmm yeap I want gear that lasts but not gear that attracts the mentality its cool to crash on the road, perhaps if you fan club would have said it last well on the racetrack.
I want gear for touring and everyday use, I ride the bike in all sorts of conditions, even occasionally snow, (bastard stuff), I want gear that is vented for summer and warm in winter, that has some degree of waterproof ability as you never know when you might get caught out in bad conditions, preferably repairable should the worst happen, and will last. What have you got?
DrunkenMistake
16th August 2011, 13:03
I want gear for touring and everyday use, I ride the bike in all sorts of conditions, even occasionally snow, (bastard stuff), I want gear that is vented for summer and warm in winter, that has some degree of waterproof ability as you never know when you might get caught out in bad conditions, preferably repairable should the worst happen, and will last. What have you got?
I ride daily as its my only form of transport and on Sunday I was lucky enough to ride during a minor snow blizzard, I have a QRace Edge, I dont wear the thermal liner, and I have yet to get wet under it, I got a tad damn where the stretch panels are but I think this is to be expected from any supplier as its just the way things are, but I would tick off water proof, tick off warm, tick off comfort, Im yet to ride with it in Summer, so I cant comment on that side of things.
wysper
16th August 2011, 13:04
:laugh: It's great isn't it? Like splitting a dead rat with your mate.
Depends what you are using to split the dead rat.
DrunkenMistake
16th August 2011, 13:30
Depends what you are using to split the dead rat.
Ya dick of coarse.
ducatilover
16th August 2011, 13:36
Depends what you are using to split the dead rat.
Ya dick of coarse.
+1
JMemonic: My Quasi gear is good in all weathers and very comfy, it's great in the wind and rain too. I haven't been wet or cold in it.
Comparing it to the 1tonne pants I had, I think the Quasi gear is of higher quality. The 1tonne stitching wasn't very good, not straight and no triple stitching. Some of the stitching looked like it would pull apart in a crash.
The 1tonne pants were extremely warm also, about the same as the Quasi pants.
The Quasi pants are (for me) more comfortable in any situation. Look better too.
So there we go, I have had both and I favour the Quasi gear. Mine is "only" a black rock two piece suit, but, I love it.
Quasievil
16th August 2011, 13:41
I want gear for touring and everyday use, I ride the bike in all sorts of conditions, even occasionally snow, (bastard stuff), I want gear that is vented for summer and warm in winter, that has some degree of waterproof ability as you never know when you might get caught out in bad conditions, preferably repairable should the worst happen, and will last. What have you got?
Nice post, thanks
For wet weather we dont have an offer, and youre right we focus on the sports bike and race end of the market, at this point.
When this dreaded recession is over if ever I will push some buttons on some work I have already done to satisfy the tourer.
JMemonic
16th August 2011, 14:20
I ride daily as its my only form of transport and on Sunday I was lucky enough to ride during a minor snow blizzard, I have a QRace Edge, I dont wear the thermal liner, and I have yet to get wet under it, I got a tad damn where the stretch panels are but I think this is to be expected from any supplier as its just the way things are, but I would tick off water proof, tick off warm, tick off comfort, Im yet to ride with it in Summer, so I cant comment on that side of things.
Ah DM you missed a point, I have seen you, you would fit Quasi's gear ok, I am more umm Cookie's shape. Plus Quasi's gear is more race orientated than I really want it to be, I require touring gear, ideally I would like the Teknic freeway (http://www.whites.co.nz/products/teknic/1227.aspx), in leather more than what Quasi has on the available. I know that jacket suits me, I have worn one for a few years but they dont have the longevity I am after, (in other words mine is stuffed).
JMemonic
16th August 2011, 14:25
Nice post, thanks
For wet weather we dont have an offer, and youre right we focus on the sports bike and race end of the market, at this point.
When this dreaded recession is over if ever I will push some buttons on some work I have already done to satisfy the tourer.
Ok you can PM me if you like, if you have something in the pipeline, what? And I know you say when the recession is over but seriously how long away, I want new gear if you see my post to DM above you see what I want, but its not available, without breaching copyrights etc can you make something similar with your armour etc?
huff3r
16th August 2011, 14:53
More like, you're an 8 year old's member.
You must spread some around before.... etc
Quasievil
16th August 2011, 15:00
You must spread some around before.... etc
its ok, he accepts Blow jobs as well, can you gag?
huff3r
16th August 2011, 15:02
its ok, he accepts Blow jobs as well, can you gag?
Sounds like youd be best for that, if you can fit your whole foot in your mouth his 2.5 inches should be easy.
Quasievil
16th August 2011, 15:08
Sounds like youd be best for that, if you can fit your whole foot in your mouth his 2.5 inches should be easy.
Im curious to understand how you know his penis size ?
Katman
16th August 2011, 15:12
Im curious to understand how you know his penis size ?
Kiwifruit told him.
Quasievil
16th August 2011, 15:14
Kiwifruit told him.
I will leave your gay sex life private kat, not an appropriate medium here you have that other forum you frequent for that.
:laugh:
huff3r
16th August 2011, 15:15
Im curious to understand how you know his penis size ?
Kiwifruit told him.
I was told just larger than yours, wasnt too tricky to work out.. :shit: :no:
tigertim20
16th August 2011, 15:33
Wooohooo ya's got a big one. I thought this was quite funny actually. Personally I thought it was pretty obvious sarcasm from Mr Q, I mean it was rather contradictory. Then again, this could be sarcasm...shit I'm confused now:mellow:
.
Ive got you thinking now havent I?
I think you bit the bate there TT, his Chinese import thing, I though was a clear inside joke dig at Maha ..
:laugh::laugh:
not at all,I got it, sarcasm and I have been best friends since aaaaages ago.
p.s. its 'bait.'
Great thing about a reach around is, if feels like you'v gone all the way through :Punk:
is that what solly told you?
Quasievil
16th August 2011, 16:17
Anyone want the last pair of Qstreet black rock leather Pants in size 30 ?
$190 pm me if keen:Punk:, other wise dont
Maha
16th August 2011, 16:39
I will leave your gay sex life private kat, not an appropriate medium here you have that other forum you frequent for that.
:laugh:
Isn't Katana Japanese for 'Love Prong'?
bogan
16th August 2011, 16:43
Isn't Katana Japanese for 'Love Prong'?
<img src="http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcREK82SsK2QrXpWcg6sqtv4ayy5nhD3d aQcN_JLjf1-4vyGG_4uBQ" />
Quasievil
16th August 2011, 16:43
Isn't Katana Japanese for 'Love Prong'?
yes it is, In Katmanese it means "love prong in hand long time"
subtle difference but more Apt
tigertim20
16th August 2011, 18:25
Anyone want the last pair of Qstreet black rock leather Pants in size 30 ?
$190 pm me if keen:Punk:, other wise dont
thats cheap.
I thought all cheap leather was shit?
Quasievil
16th August 2011, 18:28
thats cheap.
I thought all cheap leather was shit?
Discounted Smart arse, last of the range.
want them ?
Owl
16th August 2011, 18:33
Smart arse
Think he's bad, you missed my "Qmoto vs Alpinestars" thread. It got PD'd within about 5 minutes:laugh:
Quasievil
16th August 2011, 18:37
Think he's bad, you missed my "Qmoto vs Alpinestars" thread. It got PD'd within about 5 minutes:laugh:
Damn missed it, that would have been a laugh !
DR650gary
16th August 2011, 19:41
http://www.fc-moto.de/epages/fcm.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/10207048/Categories/%22Hot%20Deals%22/Lederkombi/Lederkombi-Maenner
Have a look at these guys. My son used them and the gear was a perfect fit and quality well above what he looked at here.
Did have a locally sourced jacket and the stitching started to part within months.
Urano
16th August 2011, 20:05
http://www.bksleather.co.uk/
or http://www.jofama.se/motorcycle_wear/products.php?lang=2&cid=5
?
full CE approval.
just to add options...
KiWiP
16th August 2011, 20:16
Anyone want the last pair of Qstreet black rock leather Pants in size 30 ?
$190 pm me if keen:Punk:, other wise dont
Keen price but are they any good compared to 1Tonne? :corn:
yod
16th August 2011, 20:19
Think he's bad, you missed my "Qmoto vs Alpinestars" thread. It got PD'd within about 5 minutes:laugh:
that long?
Quasievil
16th August 2011, 20:32
Keen price but are they any good compared to 1Tonne? :corn:
You figure that out yourself mate
Exhibit A
http://qmoto.co.nz/gear-shop/qmoto/qstreet-pants?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=50&category_id=8
Exhibit B
http://www.1tonne.co.nz/index.php?page=listingDetails&prodid=11&sco=&categoryid=3
Danger Will Robinson !!
<iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/RG0ochx16Dg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
nzspokes
16th August 2011, 20:43
Thats nice,
http://www.1tonne.co.nz/index.php?page=listingDetails&prodid=103&sco=&categoryid=3
KiWiP
16th August 2011, 20:45
You figure that out yourself mate
Exhibit A Qmoto
Says "1.2-1.3 mm race quality A grade drum dyed Cowhide leather"
Exhibit B 1Tonne
Says "Great looking genuine cowhide leather pants at an unbelievable price."
Now the qmoto ones look ok but 1Tonne actually states they are 'great looking'. Plus 1Tonne says their cowhide is 'genuine' is drum dyed artificial?
:corn:
Berries
16th August 2011, 22:58
is drum dyed artificial?
Dunno, but sounds like the SPCA should be involved. I thought they stunned them first.
DrunkenMistake
16th August 2011, 23:41
Looks like this thread is slowing down,
So what was the deciding decision?
Which is better 1tonne or Qmoto?
Mwahahaha :killingme:devil2::jerry:
tigertim20
17th August 2011, 01:05
Looks like this thread is slowing down,
So what was the deciding decision?
Which is better 1tonne or Qmoto?
Mwahahaha :killingme:devil2::jerry:
finally slowed down enough for you to catch up eh?
I think the general consencus was...
Keen price but are they any good compared to 1Tonne? :corn:
XV8Crisis
17th August 2011, 03:29
OP here. Yea, actually. I know.
I've resurfaced, and have been lurking the entire thread. I've read every post. I've followed up what I could with as much research as I could. Here's what I've got to say:
Both brands suits different needs, but I think after ALL things considered, they have so many different points and specs and ups and downs that they cancel each other out and are of equal OVERALL quality to one another. I respect the PRODUCTS supplied by either of them.
However...:facepalm:
Quasi, every time I watch you post on KB (I've read other threads for a while now), my gut churns; I feel less and less inclined to buy from you. This isn't a slur against you personally, at all. I'm not connecting your personal self to your end product, as I've stated that I believe in your product and I like it. I just find it hard to feel okay about buying your product from someone who acts like you have in this thread alone. There's a lot of berating and childish, unnecessary, completely and entirely immature behavior going on here. I was hoping to avert any chance of making a mess when I started this thread, but I've done quite the opposite... I feel like without this thread some people wouldn't have wasted their time or gotten so caught up in things.
At any rate,
$190 for the Black Rock pants is an excellent price that I can't pass up, and I'd take it if only the size was 32. 30 is too small for me. I'm usually a medium in anything, wear 32x30 (yes, that's inches) pants, am 6 foot, and weigh roughly 81kgs. Hope this fits.
Do you even have any size 32 QStreet Black Rock leather pants left?
Quasievil
17th August 2011, 08:10
Do you even have any size 32 QStreet Black Rock leather pants left?
Its all just a big shit stir / laugh
this is the last pair we have before the new stuff arrives sorry, I think they will fit you fine however dude, im a 38 and wear a 36 no probs.
just pm me if you like.
Eyegasm
17th August 2011, 08:38
Only problem with both brands (Mainly leather pants)
Is they are not made for the larger male!!!
I know Qmoto do custom made, but sod if I'll do that again. (17 weeks of riding in a
busted unsafe jacket waiting for it to arrive...:facepalm:)
Think I'll wait till after the new bike and dump a large amount of money on a 1 piece custom made, and I'll be shopping around.
BTW, the jacket I have is awesome (Qmoto)
Chur
Eyegasm
Shaun
17th August 2011, 08:59
I Know I trust 1 Tonne gear enough to use it and feal safe wearing it!
I am sponsored by 1 Tonne
ckai
17th August 2011, 09:15
$190 for the Black Rock pants is an excellent price that I can't pass up, and I'd take it if only the size was 32. 30 is too small for me. I'm usually a medium in anything, wear 32x30 (yes, that's inches) pants, am 6 foot, and weigh roughly 81kgs. Hope this fits.
Do you even have any size 32 QStreet Black Rock leather pants left?
I'm 6ft as well, wear medium (same inches as you ;) ) and I thought I had a pair of 32 leathers. Maybe they're 34's. But any way, I'm more than 81kgs and my pants are roomy, so you could give them a go. Buggered if I know how you fit the same size pants as me when you only weigh 81kgs! You got a beer gut? :laugh:
To be fair, the problem I had with leather pants was not the waist, it was the legs. Doing years of cycling and rowing made them, apparently, slightly larger then normal and I struggled to get them past my thighs.
Right, that's enough man talk about size. It's always gonna end in tears.
imdying
17th August 2011, 12:29
I sell Chinese imported Lino and Carpet nowHa, bad news fucker, we just brought in 23 shipping containers of lino, you're going dooooooooooown :laugh: $3.80 a meter, beat that :D
Quasievil
17th August 2011, 12:30
Ha, bad news fucker, we just brought in 23 shipping containers of lino, you're going dooooooooooown :laugh: $3.80 a meter, beat that :D
Want some cheap labour to install it, I got thai girls in, they like it sticky
Maha
17th August 2011, 12:32
Want some cheap labour to install it, I got thai girls in, they like it sticky
I have heard of them...Dum Cum Flooring...'Layed cheap and felt for free'.
imdying
17th August 2011, 12:32
Quasi, every time I watch you post on KB (I've read other threads for a while now), my gut churns; I feel less and less inclined to buy from you. This isn't a slur against you personally, at all.Basically, with respect, you have no fucking clue about the under currents that are pulling this thread about.
Base your buying decision on what'll save your arse, anything else is just retarded.
bogan
17th August 2011, 13:05
Base your buying decision on what'll save your arse, anything else is just retarded.
Alpinestars? (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/141030-Qmoto-vs-Alpinestars) :shifty:
Maha
17th August 2011, 15:39
''I feel less and less inclined to buy from you. This isn't a slur against you personally, at all. I'm not connecting your personal self to your end product, as I've stated that I believe in your product and I like it. I just find it hard to feel okay about buying your product from someone who acts like you have in this thread alone''
Its just a hobby....no biggie...<_<
Quasievil
17th August 2011, 16:06
''I feel less and less inclined to buy from you. This isn't a slur against you personally, at all. I'm not connecting your personal self to your end product, as I've stated that I believe in your product and I like it. I just find it hard to feel okay about buying your product from someone who acts like you have in this thread alone''
Its just a hobby....no biggie...<_<
Can I edit that to small business........................sheesh
avgas
17th August 2011, 16:06
Only problem with both brands (Mainly leather pants)
Is they are not made for the larger male!!!
Its like the world is trying to tell you something. :laugh:
Maha
17th August 2011, 16:45
Can I edit that to small business........................sheesh
....and stop all my fun?....:confused:
ok I wont bring it up again...:no:
Quasievil
17th August 2011, 16:46
....and stop all my fun?....:confused:
ok I wont bring it up again...:no:
Any get over this thread, its moved on to Qmoto vs Celtic now, keep up bro
anyway, I love Celtic leathers so no issues.
XV8Crisis
18th August 2011, 17:52
Heya Quasi, sorry but I'll have to pass on the size 30.
When do you expect the new stock/range to arrive and/or be available for order... through any method?
Thanks for the offer though.
Quasievil
18th August 2011, 18:19
Heya Quasi, sorry but I'll have to pass on the size 30.
When do you expect the new stock/range to arrive and/or be available for order... through any method?
Thanks for the offer though.
Hi they will be here in about 3-4 weeks, its very very nice to with a few nice new spec improvements.
DrunkenMistake
20th August 2011, 18:57
So what was the answer to the OP's question?
:wings::shifty:
ducatilover
20th August 2011, 19:03
The answer was, a dead mother getting a rabid boning.
Hitcher
20th August 2011, 19:05
The answer was, a dead mother getting a rabid boning.
Enough of the Eltham cliches already.
ducatilover
20th August 2011, 19:15
Enough of the Eltham cliches already.
Is the southern part or Taranaki a bit odd is it?
Hitcher
20th August 2011, 19:16
Is the southern part or Taranaki a bit odd is it?
Apart from some of the young chaps being their own fathers, it's not too shabby.
ducatilover
20th August 2011, 19:26
Apart from some of the young chaps being their own fathers, it's not too shabby.
The mind boggles. :shit:
Hitcher
20th August 2011, 19:29
The mind boggles.
And other bodily appendages. Some of us eventually move away, although the banjoes occasionally call us home.
ducatilover
20th August 2011, 19:35
And other bodily appendages. Some of us eventually move away, although the banjoes occasionally call us home.
I bet they do. Do you often chew on straw? Or hug family members whilst naked?
DrunkenMistake
20th August 2011, 19:55
I bet they do. Do you often chew on straw? Or hug family members whilst naked?
Thats all normal, unless your you have more fingers than your father and mother put together...
:Offtopic::Offtopic::Offtopic::Offtopic::Offtopic: :Offtopic::Offtopic::Offtopic::Offtopic::Offtopic:
Mom
20th August 2011, 20:09
And other bodily appendages. Some of us eventually move away, although the banjoes occasionally call us home.
http://youtu.be/okcLL_7gSps
ducatilover
20th August 2011, 20:35
Thats all normal, unless your you have more fingers than your father and mother put together...
:Offtopic::Offtopic::Offtopic::Offtopic::Offtopic: :Offtopic::Offtopic::Offtopic::Offtopic::Offtopic:
More fingers than your mother in your father?
DrunkenMistake
20th August 2011, 20:37
More fingers than your mother in your father?
Nothing worse than finding out your bedroom has been inside your mothers vag for the last 15 years.
ducatilover
20th August 2011, 20:38
Nothing worse than finding out your bedroom has been inside your mothers vag for the last 15 years.
You're teling the story :P
DrunkenMistake
20th August 2011, 20:41
You're teling the story :P
This is so far off topic.. its turning into a ChanceBmx thread
Dodgy_Matt
20th August 2011, 21:27
This is so far off topic.. its turning into a ChanceBmx thread
I wouldn’t go that far. You can understand what is being said, and the spelling is better
ducatilover
20th August 2011, 22:50
This is so far off topic.. its turning into a ChanceBmx thread
We can never do that bad :mellow:
I wouldn’t go that far. You can understand what is being said, and the spelling is better
And I haven't called him a scrotum gobbler yet.
p.dath
22nd August 2011, 07:34
So when you use the tool to rate a thread (like this one) - do those ratings show up anywhere?
DingoZ
22nd August 2011, 08:23
All I can vouch for is the first rate service I have received from Quasi, on the three times I have purchased from him. And the gloves are still going strong almost 4 yrs later. No complaints from me about Q's products or service.
Shaun
22nd August 2011, 10:21
1 Tonne gear will be availlable through this new bike shop in Auckland in about a month from now
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/141169-New-bike-workshop-in-Auckland
Hitcher
22nd August 2011, 19:50
Presumably this thread is now back on topic.
Quasievil
22nd August 2011, 19:52
Presumably this thread is now back on topic.
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avgas
22nd August 2011, 20:18
Nothing worse than finding out your bedroom has been inside your mothers vag for the last 15 years.
I love the smell of canvas n kerosene in the morning.
Mom
22nd August 2011, 20:51
Nothing worse than finding out your bedroom has been inside your mothers vag for the last 15 years.
Who the fuck raised you?
Presumably this thread is now back on topic.
Totally :yes:
I love the smell of canvas n kerosene in the morning.
With the dulcet tones of banjo?
FFS! PD?
cowpoos
23rd August 2011, 21:05
I frankly dont give a fuck about your opinion either qausi, because you are a businessman, youre making a product to make a living, that alone makes your opinion worth fuckall, because your interest is in selling products and making money,
You see...this is a bit raw to be fair. You have put Quasi with all the doodgy sales people. The reason Bret is so defensive about his product is because he's so passionate about it!! HATE people saying anything bad about it...because it is without question some of the best quality motorcycle safty wear you can get period!!. Tell me Timmy tiger...name another manufacturer of motor bike gear that uses Knox armour?? [the best...go google it]...YKK zips...How many armys,other motorcycle saftey gear manufacturers use thier zips??? shitloads...also the best..the quality of the stitching on Brets stuff is better than my alpinestar race suit...[i have a scar on my forarm and shoulder from a track off where the stiching came apart...turn 2 manfield for the record...low side...you can estermate the speed]...and he has the racers and road riders to back up the crash ability of his gear...ask Kickingzebra...he crashed more times in the same Quasi suit on the track...so many times infact...I reckon he would have almost worn out the tarmac with his leathers...his leathers while being far from pristine...they never ever failed...and infact I don't think he ever need to have them repaired...I'm sure someone else might know if I'm wrong about last statement.
Another point I'ld like to make...Bret and Paula's bussiness sure as shit ain't making them rich...Bret has talked about throwing it in a number of times...why hasn't he?? I think its because he knows he has the best product in the market..and he just wants people to see that!!..is it?? I think so...from what I've heard and seen...his product is massively underpriced...and it reflects when you see people showing off their quasi products to people with brand names stuff...and the punch line is always how good value it is.
I have seen some of the 1tonne stuff...to be fair...it doesn't look bad..similar to the first stuff Bret sold about 6 or 7 years ago..I havn't see a racer wearing a set yet.
Berries
23rd August 2011, 22:41
Now see, up until that last post I thought all the Qmoto gear was imported and Quasievil was just a salesman. I've looked at the website a few times as well. I don't do leathers but I have yet to find a decent pair of gloves in NZ. In the past I have just waited until I go back to the UK where there is a bigger range to choose from. Not been back for a while which is why I have some shit summer gloves, but when the weather clears I may be up for a pair of Handroids.
But now I have looked at the 1tonne website. Decisions decisions.
Shaun
24th August 2011, 09:32
I have seen some of the 1tonne stuff...to be fair...it doesn't look bad..similar to the first stuff Bret sold about 6 or 7 years ago..I havn't see a racer wearing a set yet.[/QUOTE]
A racer got a 3rd place in the street meeting of the Burt Munroe event last year dude wearing 1Tonne gear, and that racer will go one better this year wearing the same gear.
Re your comments on Quasi quality, YES there gear is good, so is 1 Tonne!
It is the customers choice to make.
Hey Quasi, remember a little bit of advice you gave me a few months back on here dude, I have learned!!!! Your turn now mate:laugh:
SimJen
24th August 2011, 10:16
I got some 1tonne boots recently, excellent quality and fit well.
I was in the market for some cheap leathers, couldn't afford the Quasi ones and 1tonne looked good at $699 but after a search on trademe managed to get some brand new Dainese for $600, worth $2k+! Just gotta keep your eyes peeled for deals!
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