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puttputtbang
16th August 2011, 10:03
Can anyone give any tips on hand pump? My arms are fine but my hands are stopping me from any speed. The pain is just behind all knuckles on both hands. I ride a 08 KX250. My fitness is not the best but the only thing that is hurting when I ride is my hands.

T.W.R
16th August 2011, 10:16
Can anyone give any tips on hand pump? My arms are fine but my hands are stopping me from any speed. The pain is just behind all knuckles on both hands. I ride a 08 KX250. My fitness is not the best but the only thing that is hurting when I ride is my hands.

Larger diameter grips, relax your grip and get a piece of broom handle tie a meter or so of string to the middle with a half kilo weight attached to the other end & do exercises winding the weight up & winding it down multiple times

DEATH_INC.
16th August 2011, 11:01
Relax!!! It's normally caused by hanging on too tight.

Jay GTI
16th August 2011, 11:08
Yep, relaxing is the key. Work on gripping the bike with your knees, so that your arms are only really used for controlling the bike, not holding on.

The broom trick works, as do those gyroscopic powerballs, but also consider dampened bars, them vibey, angry 2 smokes just love to give you arm pump (lost count of the times I got intimate with the scenery on my RM250, simply because arm pump meant I couldn't grip anymore).

george formby
16th August 2011, 11:08
Larger diameter grips, relax your grip and get a piece of broom handle tie a meter or so of string to the middle with a half kilo weight attached to the other end & do exercises winding the weight up & winding it down multiple times

LOL. Get a job on a long liner, winding 10 mtrs of rope onto sash weights day & night.


I did the above for a job & reckon that would be an excellent exercise, clever:Punk:

DEATH_INC.
16th August 2011, 11:18
LOL. Get a job on a long liner, winding 10 mtrs of rope onto sash weights day & night.


I did the above for a job & reckon that would be an excellent exercise, clever:Punk:
Actually, I disagree with all the exercise idea's, even if you are strong as an ox (I usta weight train hard at the same time I MXed ) you still get arm pump, in fact it can be worse than if you don't.

T.W.R
16th August 2011, 11:22
LOL. Get a job on a long liner, winding 10 mtrs of rope onto sash weights day & night.


I did the above for a job & reckon that would be an excellent exercise, clever:Punk:


Actually, I disagree with all the exercise idea's, even if you are strong as an ox (I usta weight train hard at the same time I MXed ) you still get arm pump, in fact it can be worse than if you don't.

Try it and see how many you can do :yes:

george formby
16th August 2011, 11:22
Actually, I disagree with all the exercise idea's, even if you are strong as an ox (I usta weight train hard at the same time I MXed ) you still get arm pump, in fact it can be worse than if you don't.

My first few trips on the boat left me in agony, hands & wrists frozen from the repetition but I did come right & the job became relatively easy.

george formby
16th August 2011, 11:25
Try it and see how many you can do :yes:

I could do heaps bro!!!:laugh:

T.W.R
16th August 2011, 11:33
I could do heaps bro!!!:laugh:

yeah yeah popeye :laugh:

NordieBoy
16th August 2011, 17:43
Actually, I disagree with all the exercise idea's, even if you are strong as an ox (I usta weight train hard at the same time I MXed ) you still get arm pump, in fact it can be worse than if you don't.

Yep. Tonic Vibration Reflex.

cheese
16th August 2011, 17:45
As your on a MX bike your forks could be far too stiff? I noticed a huge difference getting my forks revavled.

YellowDog
16th August 2011, 17:49
Can anyone give any tips on hand pump? My arms are fine but my hands are stopping me from any speed. The pain is just behind all knuckles on both hands. I ride a 08 KX250. My fitness is not the best but the only thing that is hurting when I ride is my hands.

Welcome to KB :)

As has been said, just relax a little. It will make going faster a whole lot easier.

Don't worry about exercises. You'll soon get used to it :yes:

Giving your hands a shake each time you stop helps the blood get back to where it is needed.

DEATH_INC.
16th August 2011, 18:00
Try it and see how many you can do :yes:
I like to think I'd do ok, but it still has nothing to do with arm pump.
I hopped on a MX bike for the first time in at least 10 years last time I was in Aus at a place called hunter valley (i think), the roughest track in all of aus (at least according to the pro level rider I went there with) and did a full day without any arm pump (everthing else was farked tho!).
It's not in the conditioning, it's just the way you ride.

T.W.R
16th August 2011, 19:16
It's not in the conditioning, it's just the way you ride.

Exactly
Though having assembled & run-in numerous green beasties, the OEM grips are like pencils & best replaced ASAP. And if you aren't used to positioning yourself on the bike properly then weaker forearms, wrists, & hands are going to show themselves up quick smart.
The old broom handle weight exercise is one of the cheapest most effective ways to build up strength in the lower arm, and personally having a pretty well munted left arm that has a permanently dislocated radius & severely restricted ROM punting a XR500 around a high country station trail ride for a whole day on 35km loops that wee exercise that was taught to me when I raced MX in the 80s works :yes:

CHOPPA
16th August 2011, 20:25
Yeah its the way you ride. If you ride slow you can ride all day :laugh: Ride at the pros speed and see how long you last if your not fit....

Larger grips will give you arm pump. Get some stomp grip and do some more riding.

Do you ride with your fingers wrapped around the grip or 1 finger on brake/clutch or 2 fingers? What fingers?

I found middle finger on the levers all the time was the best, also cause less blisters

Stylo
16th August 2011, 20:43
Maybe you should just grow some balls and toughen up a little mate .....

Mom
16th August 2011, 20:51
My fitness is not the best but the only thing that is hurting when I ride is my hands.

Commenting on my fitness all round will earn you a fat lip :love: Relax, I have a sore shoulder as a result of having to negotiate tight roundabouts with a stupid lack of confidence I have dealt to with some lessons, it will go away one day :yes:

oldguy
16th August 2011, 21:02
Relax!!! It's normally caused by hanging on too tight.


Yeah its the way you ride. If you ride slow you can ride all day :laugh: Ride at the pros speed and see how long you last if your not fit....

Larger grips will give you arm pump. Get some stomp grip and do some more riding.

Do you ride with your fingers wrapped around the grip or 1 finger on brake/clutch or 2 fingers? What fingers?

I found middle finger on the levers all the time was the best, also cause less blisters

I agree with both DEATH_INC and CHOPPA i found this out at one of the Mr Motorcycles Maize paddock MX events, when i ran in the senior A practice session, as I had missed the senior C session. I didn't want to get lapped on the first lap by the pro's so really pushed myself, was trying to ride fast, and was gripping the bars to tight, and trying to hang on to the bike through the bars and not with the knees.
I didn't get lapped, got my 2 laps in, but when I came off i couldn't believe how tight and sore my arms where.
It all came down to me, not being relaxed, I was tense from the start.

DEATH_INC.
16th August 2011, 21:22
Yeah its the way you ride. If you ride slow you can ride all day :laugh: Ride at the pros speed and see how long you last if your not fit.... Cheeky bugga :laugh: for what it's worth tho, I can still go pretty fast for and old bugger, I could stay with steve for a couple of laps, and only got passed by a couple of guys all day....


Larger grips will give you arm pump.
Yup, I'm with you on that one too.

browny
16th August 2011, 21:23
i used to get pump quite bad,but started using those springy squeezy things,cant remember what there proper name is, but worked wonders.does have a lot to with riding style and relaxing your grip tho.make sure your grips are tight on yur bars,that will give bad arm pump if they're loose.