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Armi
16th August 2011, 19:56
Today I had my first crash.
Going from A to C, I slipped at about B. (http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?saddr=McClymonts+Rd&daddr=Unknown+road+to:McClymonts+Rd&hl=en&sll=-36.724572,174.716097&sspn=0.001501,0.00284&geocode=Fcuhz_0dy_FpCg%3BFSWhz_0dFPVpCg%3BFUmez_0d Z_RpCg&mra=dme&mrsp=1&sz=19&vpsrc=0&t=h&z=19)
Roundabout was wet. Very little damage to myself, maybe a bruise, not sure. Gear is fine. Bike went down on the same side the last owner crashed it on. I only lost my right mirror.
I was looking for new tyres to fit my FXR because it still has the original ones. 10 years old.
crystalball
16th August 2011, 20:09
year the roads are real slippery at the moment. I feel like im riding like a real slowcoach around roundabouts and at intersection turns. Also have felt my rear wheel slide a little sometimes latley. Good that you came out o.k and bike was not damaged much. Take it easy and have fun on your bike ( good size for motorway lane splitting =] ) :Punk:
FJRider
16th August 2011, 20:12
Was it snowing ... ??? <_<
YellowDog
16th August 2011, 20:13
Congrats on surviving your first low side.
10 year old tyres are unsafe and need binning regardless.
Good luck..........
blackdog
16th August 2011, 20:16
So you'll be paying a visit to a tyre shop tomorrow won't you.
Armi
16th August 2011, 20:23
So you'll be paying a visit to a tyre shop tomorrow won't you.
Hopefully. It's difficult to find tyres in a 80/90R17 front and 100/90R17 rear.
maggot
16th August 2011, 20:37
Call cycletreads and ask about Continental ContiGos to fit an FXR. Reasonably priced and do the job quite well. Had a pair on my FXR while I had it and they performed admirably!
I had my first lowside in a similar situation as yours, they're a PITA, but they happen. Good to hear the damage is minor!
ducatilover
16th August 2011, 21:00
That's got to be irritating!
Blinkwing
16th August 2011, 21:06
That sucks man. At least there isn't any damage to yourself and hopefully you remember to go a bit slower when the weather isn't that great.
I rode my bike today for the first time in a week and when I was going around a corner, the rear wheel started fishtailing a bit. Nothing like a scare to remind you of careful riding ...
Mom
16th August 2011, 21:12
Today I had my first crash.
I was looking for new tyres to fit my FXR because it still has the original ones. 10 years old.
Tyres before riding again.
Some training on slow manouvering would not go a miss either www.rscom.co.nz
I just paid for some, best investment I have ever made!
Crashing is one thing, dropping your bike due to lack of momentum is another altogether, get some learning and new tyres :yes:
DrunkenMistake
16th August 2011, 21:43
Shit, I know the feeling about roundabouts, I managed it on a dry day,
Except I found the dreaded mid round about man hole cover..
Funny feeling though right?
Get this sudden urge of,
"Oh fuck yeah, gonna hit this bitch like a $2 hooker.."
To a Sudden
"Oh shit, this bitch has herpies"
Glad your ok.
Armi
16th August 2011, 22:17
Shit, I know the feeling about roundabouts, I managed it on a dry day,
Except I found the dreaded mid round about man hole cover..
Funny feeling though right?
Get this sudden urge of,
"Oh fuck yeah, gonna hit this bitch like a $2 hooker.."
To a Sudden
"Oh shit, this bitch has herpies"
Glad your ok.
I wasn't even going quickly. I was nicely taking my time when BANG I'm sliding on the road
tigertim20
17th August 2011, 01:40
I wasn't even going quickly. I was nicely taking my time when BANG I'm sliding on the road
with shit tyres you dont have to be going fast.
few thoughts...
in winter months, the sun can trick you into thinking there is more grip than there is
ten year oldtyres suck ass
avoid steel manhole covers/ steel road grates etc
avoid painted lines
avoid tar snakes if possible.
You live you learn, new tyres, crub them in, then go rape that roundabout!!!
ducatilover
17th August 2011, 12:50
with shit tyres you dont have to be going fast.
few thoughts...
You live you learn, new tyres, crub them in, then go rape that roundabout!!!
+1 :Police:
Armi
17th August 2011, 14:00
New tyres ordered. Hopefully will be back on the road again soon :scooter:
EJK
17th August 2011, 15:29
What tyres did ya get?
By the way, glad you are OK.
TIBLE_90
17th August 2011, 15:34
good to here damage was minor and you didnt get hurt. My first crash got my bike totalled and me in the hospital for 6 days:shit:.
Also you learned a lesson, ride safer in the wet and get rid of old tyres
Armi
18th August 2011, 20:29
What tyres did ya get?
By the way, glad you are OK.
Pirelli MT-75's.
Since it's so expensive to buy a new mirror and the scrappers have none, I think I might get bar end mirrors to replace my current ones since I mostly see my arms with the stock ones. I need ones that go over the handle bars because there isn't enough room below.
Anyone know of a good option?
Juzz976
18th August 2011, 21:04
Were your tires cold (just starting a ride)?
Cold tires don't grip too well, and the smaller bikes tend to take longer to warm the tires up.
I like riding on cold tires as you don't need to throttle too hard to initiate a good drift :whistle:
Milts
18th August 2011, 22:40
Pirelli MT-75's.
Since it's so expensive to buy a new mirror and the scrappers have none, I think I might get bar end mirrors to replace my current ones since I mostly see my arms with the stock ones. I need ones that go over the handle bars because there isn't enough room below.
Anyone know of a good option?
Dunno if you've been looking at trademe already....
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/lights/auction-399161854.htm
Odds are if you give it a few weeks there'll be more listings as well.
LBD
18th August 2011, 22:57
New tyres ordered. Hopefully will be back on the road again soon :scooter:
The tire fitter should mention this before you hit the road, but new tires can be very slippery as well....break them in gently.....or scrub them in with coarse sand paper before you take to the road....easiest idea is to take a couple sheets of coarse sand paper to the tire shop and ask for time with the new tires to sand the treads before they fit the tires to the rims.....:shifty:
Armi
18th August 2011, 23:52
The tire fitter should mention this before you hit the road, but new tires can be very slippery as well....break them in gently.....or scrub them in with coarse sand paper before you take to the road
I always wonder why I don't see sandpaper mentioned more often for scrubbing in tyres.
Dunno if you've been looking at trademe already....
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/lights/auction-399161854.htm
Odds are if you give it a few weeks there'll be more listings as well.
Annoying how another person only wants the right mirror like me.
Fast Eddie
26th September 2011, 10:27
haha felt like sharing my first moments, first one I plowed into the back of a car when I was more interested in looking at my gauges and idiot lights instead of watching where I was going, lesson learnt.. or was it. After repairing the front end which got pretty damaged must have been the first day back on the bike.. Bam straight into the back of another car, this time I claimed its his fault, he did the old indicate left but swing far right before making his left turn so I was aiming to pass him on the right side and he just swing out right before turning left into a drive. but yea, it was my fault. after repairing that damage and paying for his car bumper repairs too i was back on the bike and happily cruising down the street when behold! some young school kid with his headphones on just starts crossing the road without even looking left or right walked straight infront of me at the last second didnt even have a chance to throw out the anchor. i hit him, he rolled over the front of the bike and clothslined me off the back, the bike carried on down the road and went into a parked car.. grrreat, I got a wee neck brace for my efforts, more bike repairs to do (that bike was quiet the frankenstein by the end of my time with it) the kid was alright just bruised and stiff. The best part was an off duty police officer was doing his daily jog and saw the whole thing, which got me out of trouble. best witness in an accident is a police officer! gee. now that I'v started I'v actually had a few.. a few low sides in the rain, a sweet tank slapper and the front has disappeared under me around a hair pin on one of our more enthusiastic sunday rides.. by the end of it I found I ride a bit more cautious on the road these days.
sil3nt
26th September 2011, 10:29
haha felt like sharing my first moments, first one I plowed into the back of a car when I was more interested in looking at my gauges and idiot lights instead of watching where I was going, lesson learnt.. or was it. After repairing the front end which got pretty damaged must have been the first day back on the bike.. Bam straight into the back of another car, this time I claimed its his fault, he did the old indicate left but swing far right before making his left turn so I was aiming to pass him on the right side and he just swing out right before turning left into a drive. but yea, it was my fault. after repairing that damage and paying for his car bumper repairs too i was back on the bike and happily cruising down the street when behold! some young school kid with his headphones on just starts crossing the road without even looking left or right walked straight infront of me at the last second didnt even have a chance to throw out the anchor. i hit him, he rolled over the front of the bike and clothslined me off the back, the bike carried on down the road and went into a parked car.. grrreat, I got a wee neck brace for my efforts, more bike repairs to do (that bike was quiet the frankenstein by the end of my time with it) the kid was alright just bruised and stiff. The best part was an off duty police officer was doing his daily jog and saw the whole thing, which got me out of trouble. best witness in an accident is a police officer! gee. now that I'v started I'v actually had a few.. a few low sides in the rain, a sweet tank slapper and the front has disappeared under me around a hair pin on one of our more enthusiastic sunday rides.. by the end of it I found I ride a bit more cautious on the road these days.You need some rider training ASAP.
CRF119
26th September 2011, 10:37
Tires were the cause to this, I test rode a Ducati 996 for a friend it was wet but i rode this road every day in the rain for the past week and the Duke had the exact same tires as my CBR919RR. The Duke was lose as, i got back and asked him how old were the tires he said 2 years, so 10 year old tires in the rain must have been like riding on the rims or plastic tires.
Remember weight transfer is also important, you need to weight the out side peg to prevent sliding.
baffa
26th September 2011, 17:01
Something I have learned recently, is to check your tyre pressures regularly.
And by regularly, it should be once a week, or even every day.
I had a new rear tyre fitted a month or so ago, everythings fine. Recent ride in the wet and it was moving around, kinda freaky. Checked the pressure and it was way down on what it shouldve been. Pumped up, with a gauge on me wherever i go now.
Night and day differences in the handling of a bike with different pressure in the tyres.
Captain_Salty
26th September 2011, 20:21
why do bike tyres lose pressure so fast? mine will go from 33/36 to 24/28 in a week, just sitting in the garage.
I know my car tyres loose more in winter than in summer.
CRF119
28th September 2011, 07:14
They don't change pressure mine stay the same pressure from new to old. You guys need to replace your whole valve and make sure next time you replace tires that the rim is in good condition where the tire bead runs.
p.dath
28th September 2011, 07:46
They don't change pressure mine stay the same pressure from new to old. You guys need to replace your whole valve and make sure next time you replace tires that the rim is in good condition where the tire bead runs.
+1. Really old rubber (7+ years) can leak air [slowly] as it breaks down, but you've probably got a simpler problem.
Have you put a bubble of spit on the valve to make sure it is not loosing air? Any chance of a simple puncture?
Morriar
2nd October 2011, 22:37
Accidents are bound to happen someday. Training can help to learn how to deal with them and make you better off. My first one was 6 days after getting my first bike, swerved for a dog and ended up with a knee reconstruction. Just don't give up on it, get back on wiser.
Jay GTI
3rd October 2011, 09:49
I’ve often wondered how much use it would be for roadies to spend some time riding off road, as there are a few skills you learn on a dirt bike you’d never get the chance to (safely) pick up riding on the road. I’ve got a few roadie mates out on hire dirt bikes before, they always seem to struggle with the basics, even though a couple of them are seriously fast on road bikes around Puke, Hampton, Taupo etc. I’m not a road rider and as far as I can see the techniques are quite different for road and off road riding, but I’m pretty sure learning how to control a bike in low-grip conditions, like Woodhill in the summer, would pay dividends on the road when you hit a slippery section of tarmac.
xXGIBBOXx
13th October 2011, 19:57
Hey man re your mirror , if the glass is smoked go see a auto glass place and get them to cut and fit one . we do them ( novus ) for round $40 so most places should be round the same .
nothingflash
13th October 2011, 20:41
You need some rider training ASAP.
+1... or some training in exercising common sense :facepalm:
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