Where the plastic meets the road

[The Singing Chef]

Was on my ride out to Warkworth today, whilst going through the really tight and smooth corners with the really nice seal on them i remembered what a fellow KBer had told me about getting your knee down, tried it out and low and behold i got my knee down, and again, and again.

Shit that was fun!

[kiwifruit]

Timmay !

[The Singing Chef]

Timmay?

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[kiwifruit]

Timmay!!!!!

[Str8 Jacket]

Timmay!
Timmay!!
Timmay!!!
Timmay!!!!

[The Singing Chef]

Oh.... Timmay!!!

[Maha]

Timmay?

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Its Kiwifruit talk for 'Im too sexy for my leathers''...:wari:

[The Singing Chef]

Its Kiwifruit talk for 'Im too sexy for my leathers''...:wari:

Reminds me of that song....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFzN50S3Te0

[Madness]

http://www.ecarruthers.com/store/pc/catalog/gi_jandal11.5.jpg

[Str8 Jacket]

Get yourself to a race track. Only twats ride like that on the road.

[The Singing Chef]

Get yourself to a race track. Only twats ride like that on the road.

Waiting for the ART day in October, and Meh it was fun, no cars around and a nice road.

[Str8 Jacket]

Waiting for the ART day in October, and Meh it was fun, no cars around and a nice road.

Cars aren't the only danger on the road dude. Also, should you collide with any other number of other things on the road not to mention u-turning motorists then lying in the middle of the road and not being able to move has got to suck. Right? Got it?

And remember, it's not just about you. Its about the people that find you, emergency services and other road users. Being a hero is only cool until you fuck yourself up.

[Deano]

Waiting for the ART day in October, and Meh it was fun, no cars around and a nice road.

Noob mistake. You never know when you will meet :Police: doing a u turn.

[The Singing Chef]

Noob mistake. You never know when you will meet :Police: doing a u turn.

:dodge:
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[Chancebmx25]

Yo good stuff bro. Knee downs are wea its at on sportbikes fk what people ride how u feel if u crash well only u can learn frm it.

[Str8 Jacket]

Yo good stuff bro. Knee downs are wea its at on sportbikes fk what people ride how u feel if u crash well only u can learn frm it.

Don't get me started on you Deanskid..... :facepalm:

[The Singing Chef]

Cars aren't the only danger on the road dude. Also, should you collide with any other number of other things on the road not to mention u-turning motorists then lying in the middle of the road and not being able to move has got to suck. Right? Got it?

And remember, it's not just about you. Its about the people that find you, emergency services and other road users. Being a hero is only cool until you fuck yourself up.

Yea i understand that, though it's by no means at any fast speed, through a corner i can see right through, which i have already checked for any threats, not like i will do it often at all, because then ill need new sliders and there is no need for it around corners, was just to actually do it.

[TIBLE_90]

better to save that speed for the track, as others have said you never know if a :Police: might be doin a u-turn up ahead

[Str8 Jacket]

Yea i understand that, though it's by no means at any fast speed, through a corner i can see right through, which i have already checked for any threats, not like i will do it often at all, because then ill need new sliders and there is no need for it around corners, was just to actually do it.

Then try it off a public road. As you start riding more and more you will realise that the shit can hit the fan really fast, especially "while trying new things"..... Seriously, I learn't from my mistakes and they were very painful lessons!!

Take it to the track.

[TIBLE_90]

Yea i understand that, though it's by no means at any fast speed, through a corner i can see right through, which i have already checked for any threats, not like i will do it often at all, because then ill need new sliders and there is no need for it around corners, was just to actually do it.

oh, my bad didnt see this comment lol. How did u manage to get ur knee down without going at any fast speed?

[Deano]

Yo good stuff bro. Knee downs are wea its at on sportbikes fk what people ride how u feel if u crash well only u can learn frm it.

Can you please translate this into english ?

[Deano]

Then try it off a public road. As you start riding more and more you will realise that the shit can hit the fan really fast, especially "while trying new things"..... Seriously, I learn't from my mistakes and they were very painful lessons!!

Take it to the track.

You took it to the track and you're hurting yourself more :laugh:

[blackdog]

oh, my bad didnt see this comment lol. How did u manage to get ur knee down without going at any fast speed?

You don't need to be going fast. With a little practice you can get down at 15kph around cones in a (empty) carpark.

[Str8 Jacket]

You took it to the track and you're hurting yourself more :laugh:

:facepalm:

Do as I say, not as I do!

[Deano]

:facepalm:

Do as I say, not as I do!

Ah, so I'm not the only hypocrite here then :shifty:

[Str8 Jacket]

Ah, so I'm not the only hypocrite here then :shifty:

At least I have the foresight to do it on other people's bikes..... :facepalm: (again)

Just trying to keep a new (sounds young) rider alive, you can call that hypocrisy if you like.... ;)

[The Singing Chef]

Then try it off a public road. As you start riding more and more you will realise that the shit can hit the fan really fast, especially "while trying new things"..... Seriously, I learn't from my mistakes and they were very painful lessons!!

Take it to the track.

You make a very valid point, and i'm sure they would be!! Pity you had to learn the hard way!! :no:

[The Singing Chef]

oh, my bad didnt see this comment lol. How did u manage to get ur knee down without going at any fast speed?

body positioning, and haha all good

[Deano]

Just trying to keep a new (sounds young) rider alive, you can call that hypocrisy if you like.... ;)

Nah all good. Just giving you some for calling me a cunt earlier. :shit:

[Str8 Jacket]

Nah all good. Just giving you some for calling me a cunt earlier. :shit:

Life is hard when you're a ......

[The Singing Chef]

Life is hard when you're a ......

Cunt? :laugh:

[Deano]

Life is hard when you're a ......

Well you'd know.:mellow:

[Str8 Jacket]

Cunt? :laugh:
No, ginga.... ;)

Well you'd know.:mellow:

No, I am not ginga..... :shake:

[Mom]

i got my knee down, and again, and again.

Shit that was fun!

Plonker!


Timmay?

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Timmay!!!!!


Timmay!
Timmay!!
Timmay!!!
Timmay!!!!

Quite the compliment really :laugh:


Don't get me started on you Deanskid..... :facepalm:

True? Now you mention it, there are similarities.

[DrunkenMistake]

Was on my ride out to Warkworth today, whilst going through the really tight and smooth corners with the really nice seal on them i remembered what a fellow KBer had told me about getting your knee down, tried it out and low and behold i got my knee down, and again, and again.

Shit that was fun!

Slow down Rossi!


Yo good stuff bro. Knee downs are wea its at on sportbikes fk what people ride how u feel if u crash well only u can learn frm it.

Your mother should be simply ashamed of that comment.

[Katman]

Be aware you may be referred back to this thread one day.

[The Singing Chef]

Slow down Rossi!

Wasn't a speed thing bro, was going about 30km/h i think it was.

[EJK]

Sorry I'm abit late....


Tag: Timmay!!!

[The Singing Chef]

Be aware you may be referred back to this thread one day.

Fixed that for you.

And lets hope that it's kept at a maybe then, although, there was no speeding or excessive speed for the corners, had a clear path in front of me and behind me with warm tires. Was simply trying a new cornering technique which keeps more of the tire on the road.

The bigger the contact patch, the more grip i have.

[DrunkenMistake]

Wasn't a speed thing bro, was going about 30km/h i think it was.

<_< either your hitting 90 degree corners, or your secretly Rossi with a broken speedo.

Timmayyy!!

[The Singing Chef]

<_< either your hitting 90 degree corners, or your secretly Rossi with a broken speedo.

Timmayyy!!

Close to 90degrees, hence the speed, wouldn't bother trying it at high speed on the road, was just seeing whether or not it made a big change in cornering, and I'd always wondered what it would feel like.

[The Singing Chef]

Timmay! Timmay, Timmay, Timmay!

[DrunkenMistake]

Close to 90degrees, hence the speed, wouldn't bother trying it at high speed on the road, was just seeing whether or not it made a big change in cornering, and I'd always wondered what it would feel like.

Ill stop been a knob for a moment,
When I had my 250 I used to catch my knee a shit load, I found it was due to the lack of clearance more than anything, on the 400 now I think there has been about 5 times when I have been at some ridiculous speed, and you really do notice the difference, your not fighting the bike to get round the corner.


And of coarse all on the track..


Tracks the one with Traffic right?:shifty:

[Berries]

Fuck em. If you are in control and aware of what is happening around you then good on you.

[The Singing Chef]

Ill stop been a knob for a moment,
When I had my 250 I used to catch my knee a shit load, I found it was due to the lack of clearance more than anything, on the 400 now I think there has been about 5 times when I have been at some ridiculous speed, and you really do notice the difference, your not fighting the bike to get round the corner.


And of coarse all on the track..


Tracks the one with Traffic right?:shifty:

Yea mines a whore to corner, friends have ridden it and been surprised, i used to get my pegs scraping alot, so adjusted my riding position.

[The Singing Chef]

Fuck em. If you are in control and aware of what is happening around you then good on you.

Cheers bro:whocares::rockon::scooter::innocent:

[TOTO]

Good on you for trying new things. Motorcycling is all about having fun and you are obviously doing that.

Like the others said, save it for the track or the car park. Doing shit like that on the road has ended up in disaster in the past even if the individuals taught that they had taken the variables out of the equation.

[DrunkenMistake]

Yea mines a whore to corner, friends have ridden it and been surprised, i used to get my pegs scraping alot, so adjusted my riding position.

Get yourself some boots with toe sliders,
and try keep the little steal pins on the bottom of your pegs on, they act like a slider.

[MadDuck]

.... tried it out and low and behold i got my knee down, and again, and again.

Way to go. I do that every time I head up to Warkworth too. :shifty:

[The Singing Chef]

Way to go. I do that every time I head up to Warkworth too. :shifty:

HAHAHAHA that would be quite a stretch!!!! :laugh:

[The Singing Chef]

Get yourself some boots with toe sliders,
and try keep the little steal pins on the bottom of your pegs on, they act like a slider.

Yea wouldn't mind some new boots, haven't done it since i adjusted my cornering position, and my pegs are all rubber...owell, i haven't done that for a while either

[The Singing Chef]

just out of curiosity, did anyone pick up the Meatloaf reference, or am i the only fan?

[Grantman_]

Was on my ride out to Warkworth today, whilst going through the really tight and smooth corners with the really nice seal on them i remembered what a fellow KBer had told me about getting your knee down, tried it out and low and behold i got my knee down, and again, and again.

Shit that was fun!

Mate I hear you. Talk about the tripling the riding addiction. Once you start you can't stop. You've just taken a jump forward in your cornering ability and you feel it. Nothing wrong with getting your knee down on the open road if the turns are tight and the conditions right. I've scraped my way through 2 sets of sliders canyon riding the Mangamukas over the last few months since I first started. Save the fun for an annual track day 100s of k's away? Doubt it. I started riding this year to get some fun outside work and knee down = big fun. In fact, no knee down has started to = boresville.

Take it incrementally, and make sure there's a good gap of cars in front if you're in blind canyons.

Timmmaaay stop that fun, stopit! Where's my kidgloves?
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[EJK]

Tag: Katman Bait

[The Singing Chef]

Tag: Katman Bait

:laugh: :shit: Oh no the almighty KATMAN, he rides through the black of the night, looking out for unsuspecting prey, coming out of the shadows he rolls on up to preach his godly word.

[nosebleed]

Fixed that for you.

And lets hope that it's kept at a may be then, although, there was no speeding or excessive speed for the corners, had a clear path in front of me and behind me with warm tires. Was simply trying a new cornering technique which keeps more of the tire on the road.

The bigger the contact patch, the more grip i have.

Fixed that for you.

[tigertim20]

Get yourself to a race track. Only twats ride like that on the road.

youtube knee down vids, youll find lots of vids of poeple getting a knee down on 250s in big empty car parks, at a very very low speed. knee down doesnt necessarily require a great deal of pace.

[ellipsis]

:laugh: :shit: Oh no the almighty KATMAN, he rides through the black of the night, looking out for unsuspecting prey, coming out of the shadows he rolls on up to preach his godly word.

...does he?..

[The Singing Chef]

Fixed that for you.

:shifty:........

[Str8 Jacket]

youtube knee down vids, youll find lots of vids of poeple getting a knee down on 250s in big empty car parks, at a very very low speed. knee down doesnt necessarily require a great deal of pace.

Speed doesn't kill - the impact does. Speed aint my problem - treating the road like you're the only one on it is.

I broke my tailbone racing and I was going slower than I would have been riding the same (type) of bike to work. When things go wrong at any speed it can hurt or eesult in death! I know I have been to waaay to many funerals in my lifetime.

[skippa1]

Knee down is fun. So is wheelie (I never got any fun out of stoppie). Just remember, everything has to be right. Good tyres, right pressures, suspenders adjusted correctly, dry road and khama on your side.
Ive seen stoats run accross the road, hawks come in from the side, germans driving on the wrong side around blind corners....:shit:
Not saying dont do it, that would be very hypocritical of me, however make sure what you can control is good and expect the the unexpected.:mellow:
My experience is that it is a fine line between upright and not and it isnt nice watching your pride n joy sliding down the road:no:

[Deano]

My experience is that it is a fine line between upright and not and it isnt nice watching your pride n joy sliding down the road:no:

It shouldn't be a fine line - if it is then you're pushing too hard. The track is where it is at for 'fine line' riding.

[sinfull]

Way to go. I do that every time I head up to Warkworth too. :shifty:
Who's up there ?

[skippa1]

It shouldn't be a fine line - if it is then you're pushing too hard. The track is where it is at for 'fine line' riding.

dragging a knee on the road isnt a fine line?:shit:Riding a motorcycle is a fine line dont kid yourself

[Katman]

Riding a motorcycle is a fine line dont kid yourself

Bullshit.

It's how they're ridden that creates the fine line.

[skippa1]

Bullshit.

It's how they're ridden that creates the fine line.

mmmmmmm semantics:laugh:

[Deano]

My experience is that it is a fine line between upright and not and it isnt nice watching your pride n joy sliding down the road:no:


It shouldn't be a fine line - if it is then you're pushing too hard. The track is where it is at for 'fine line' riding.


dragging a knee on the road isnt a fine line?:shit:Riding a motorcycle is a fine line dont kid yourself

There's no mention of knee dragging in your first post so I took it that you think ALL riding is a fine line, which you've confirmed in your last post.

If you think it is such a fine line between keeping upright and not, then you're doing it wrong bro. You shouldn't be riding such a fine line on the road, cause one day your luck will run out.

I'm no saint - I give it a nudge on the road on occasion, but I very rarely feel that I'm on a fine line.

[ducatilover]

What a poofter. I got my arse and elbow down the other week.


People also need to understand that knee down does not mean you're going fast, I can do it easily at a moderate pace. I don't though, I have way cooler shit to do, like crash and stuff.

[skippa1]

There's no mention of knee dragging in your first post so I took it that you think ALL riding is a fine line, which you've confirmed in your last post.

If you think it is such a fine line between keeping upright and not, then you're doing it wrong bro. You shouldn't be riding such a fine line on the road, cause one day your luck will run out.

I'm no saint - I give it a nudge on the road on occasion, but I very rarely feel that I'm on a fine line.

my intention was to point out that there are so many variables, that dont include your setup, personal skill levels, tyres etc and that dragging a knee carries a greater risk of crossing that fine line....in the course of riding my bike i dont feel like i am on a fine line, however i know it exists and certain behaviours place you closer to it.

[Katman]

Riding a motorcycle is a fine line dont kid yourself

Then this line shows you don't understand what 'semantics' is.

[ducatilover]

Then this line shows you don't understand what 'semantics' is.
It's a word that is spelt the same regardless of it being singular or plural.

[skippa1]

Then this line shows you don't understand what 'semantics' is.

maybe....maybe not. but i know what a dickhead is:laugh:

[Devil]

Typically people who get their knee down on the road have all kinds of body position problems.
Like that video, thats crap body position. Shifting your arse right off the seat, twisting around while leaving your head and upper body over the tank will only increase the risk of losing the front.

[Deano]

Shifting your arse right off the seat, twisting around while leaving your head and upper body over the tank will only increase the risk of losing the front.

Hey that's White Trash's riding style.

Actually I think he did lose the front a fair bit. But he was bloody fast !

[White trash]

Hey that's White Trash's riding style.

Actually I think he did lose the front a fair bit. But he was bloody fast !

Hmmmm, what's this "was" bullshit. Couple of different ways to skin a cat really.

[Str8 Jacket]

Hmmmm, what's this "was" bullshit. Couple of different ways to skin a cat really.

Looks like you had your most serious face on, on the pit bike!

[White trash]

Looks like you had your most serious face on, on the pit bike!

Street Magic with fucked front suspension. There was a fair bit of wheel chatter when riding it like that. Not fun.

But I was pissed, which made it acceptable.

[Deano]

Hmmmm, what's this "was" bullshit. Couple of different ways to skin a cat really.

Yes - you're hanging off a lot in photo 1.

I didn't mean 'was' as in you are not anymore, simply that you 'was' fast when racing. But you knew that anyway.

[Devil]

Hmmmm, what's this "was" bullshit. Couple of different ways to skin a cat really.

Sort your shit out and you could be proper fast ;)
:laugh:

[White trash]

Sort your shit out and you could be proper fast ;)
:laugh:

I was always the fastest in the "Pissed People Riding Street Magics" Class.

[Grantman_]

Like that video, thats crap body position. Shifting your arse right off the seat, twisting around while leaving your head and upper body over the tank will only increase the risk of losing the front.

Nope. Nothing wrong with my riding position matey. The rear camera fools you. Fooled me initially.

Meanwhile I continue to enjoy myself following Lee Park's principles of correct form, although, as has been said, there's more than one way to skin a cat.