883 Twin Sport racing

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yep...they were slow as shit. Yep...they were (are) heavy as fuck. Yep...they had shit brakes and handled like a bent wheel barrow. But they sure were fun to race.

Till you binned it and they jumped on you.

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[scumdog]

Wow - what caused the last triple-crash??/

(And I thought it was a non-contact sport....)

[carbonhed]

:laugh: and I thought Moto2 was scary. They sure are incredibly efficient at destroying hay bales though.

[ellipsis]

...very ungainly get offs and all the agricultural quips could be used extensively through that sequence...but I still wouldn't want to be without one...

[White trash]

Wow - what caused the last triple-crash??/

(And I thought it was a non-contact sport....)

Rain. There's a reason they don't run car racing on banking when it rains. That was fucking horrific.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Rain. There's a reason they don't run car racing on banking when it rains. That was fucking horrific.

Yeah why the fuck that race wasn't red flagged well back down the track I'll never know.

[wysper]

Yep...they were slow as shit. Yep...they were (are) heavy as fuck. Yep...they had shit brakes and handled like a bent wheel barrow.

Ok, enough talking about how I ride. That was nasty, wouldn't mind watching a race though.

[White trash]

Yeah why the fuck that race wasn't red flagged well back down the track I'll never know.

Fucken crazy. Mint compilation though. 883 Twin Sport racing here was the most entertaining class for a long time. Probably one of the cheapest classes to get into as well and you got paid for winning. Bring it the fuck back I reckon.

[george formby]

Ahh the good old days, proper bikes with hinges in the middle.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Fucken crazy. Mint compilation though. 883 Twin Sport racing here was the most entertaining class for a long time. Probably one of the cheapest classes to get into as well and you got paid for winning. Bring it the fuck back I reckon.

I made more prize money than Chris Haldane was winning when he was racing his Ducati Superbike...in fact 5th place paid the same as first place in F1 from memory.

[nodrog]

In one of last years Fast bikes magazine they did an article on the XR1200 race series that was at all the BSB rounds I think.

Looked like fun, you purchase the bike and kit off a Harley dealer and away you go. Wasnt too bad of a price either.

[malcy25]

"Tears of pain to those haven't yet mastered their power...."
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[Crasherfromwayback]

"Tears of pain to those haven't yet mastered their power...."


More like tears of pain when you get sat on by one.

[gixerracer]

I made more prize money than Chris Haldane was winning when he was racing his Ducati Superbike...in fact 5th place paid the same as first place in F1 from memory.

Yea but he didnt need any money and when he got home he didnt have the shame of saying he had been Harley racing in the weekend:laugh:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yea but he didnt need any money and when he got home he didnt have the shame of saying he had been Harley racing in the weekend:laugh:

Imagine the pain of the guys that had to go home one year after Wanganui when I finished 3rd in Bears on my lil old 883 behind Robert Holden on his 916 Superbike, and Rodney O'Conner on his 748, and tell their mates what they got their asses whipped by then!!! Sad for them.

[kiwifruit]

that's got to hurt

[BIG DOUG]

Hmm I seem to remember a mister Bruce Anstey winning that series,we only lost one race.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Hmm I seem to remember a mister Bruce Anstey winning that series,we only lost one race.

And as usual...he crashed fuck all!

[ducatilover]

I was thinking, "fuck that's stupid"

Then I realised I can crash far better bikes for far less money, re-enforcing my original thought.

It must be cheap over there though, I'd be inclined to give it a go, not like they're going to have enough power to scare me.

[ktm]

Imagine the pain of the guys that had to go home one year after Wanganui when I finished 3rd in Bears on my lil old 883 behind Robert Holden on his 916 Superbike, and Rodney O'Conner on his 748, and tell their mates what they got their asses whipped by then!!! Sad for them.

HaHaHa yeah, well done

[Crasherfromwayback]

It must be cheap over there though, I'd be inclined to give it a go, not like they're going to have enough power to scare me.

Min 19 round Manfeild though. I know of a lot of guys on much faster better bikes that can't do that.

[ducatilover]

Min 19 round Manfeild though. I know of a lot of guys on much faster better bikes that can't do that.
That's not bad at all for a heavy gutless sack of shit! I could probably get it around in 2 min flat then? Assuming I don't fall off the back.

[wysper]

That's not bad at all for a heavy gutless sack of shit! I could probably get it around in 2 min flat then? Assuming I don't fall off the back.

You talking about the rider or the bike? :killingme :shit:

[avgas]

Awesome. Bring this class back please.

Ducatilover I really suggest you test ride an 883. They are damn good fun, and not as underpowered as I suspected.
But I guess that is the thing about perceptions. I was pleasantly surprised when I rode an 883. But absolutely gutted when I rode a 916. The 916 felt like 250 would lap it. But most of this was due to me putting it on a high honor. I gave it a perception it would never achieve. I thought it would do 300kmh and handle like a dream. I forgot it was 20 years old now.
The 883 I hoped was faster than a steam train. Where in reality it was as good as an old 600. Much better than I expected.

[ducatilover]

You talking about the rider or the bike? :killingme :shit: I'm an underweight poor performing turd. :laugh:


Awesome. Bring this class back please.

Ducatilover I really suggest you test ride an 883. They are damn good fun, and not as underpowered as I suspected.

I took one from W(h)anganui to Wellington, had all these "cool" upgrades. It was a crap bike. Nice seat and looked cool, as a Sporty does. I hated it so much I woke up early the next morning to hate it more.
I've ridden a few Harleys and I can't say I like them, personal taste I suppose.

I thought it was massively underpowered, until I rode some other cruisers in the same size range, it wasn't too gutless. I'd take a Honda VF750 Magna any day. Image is overrated :Police:

[Crasherfromwayback]

.
. I'd take a Honda VF750 Magna any day. Image is overrated :Police:

See if you can better 1 min 19 round Manfeild on one.

[ducatilover]

See if you can better 1 min 19 round Manfeild on one.

I wouldn't be able to get my ZZR600 (in working condition) around there that fast, I wouldn't get anything around there that fast and I'm not concerned, I just hate the way the 883 sporty I rode...rode. It was crap, it's the only 883 sporty I have ridden, the other was a 1200 kitted gutless turd.
They're not made to go fast, so I can understand.

[ellipsis]

...understand what?...

[ducatilover]

...understand what?...

Low Horsepower and torque per liter. The fact that it's not a sports bike. I'm happy to carry on disliking them and it's okay because I have ridden several and throbbing cruisers don't float my boat, I like sports tourers and nekkid sport bikes. I'm keen to have a go on anything though and am not saying all Harleys are poo, just the few I have ridden.
So who's going to give me a go on one to change my mind?

[ellipsis]

....yeah ok...next...

[dangerous]

Yep...they were slow as shit. Yep...they were (are) heavy as fuck. Yep...they had shit brakes and handled like a bent wheel barrow. But they sure were fun to race.

Till you binned it and they jumped on you.
sweet, a good watch... and yes theres a reason they belong in the padock not the track, odd how most arse ups were handling issues what were they thinking, and I dont think the vid would have been so intertainig if it was a proper 'bike' track with runoff over walls, bastards are nuts... resepct (I think)

[RobGassit]

Awesome. Bring this class back please.

Ducatilover I really suggest you test ride an 883. They are damn good fun, and not as underpowered as I suspected.
But I guess that is the thing about perceptions. I was pleasantly surprised when I rode an 883. But absolutely gutted when I rode a 916. The 916 felt like 250 would lap it. But most of this was due to me putting it on a high honor. I gave it a perception it would never achieve. I thought it would do 300kmh and handle like a dream. I forgot it was 20 years old now.
The 883 I hoped was faster than a steam train. Where in reality it was as good as an old 600. Much better than I expected.

Luckily for you they are bringing this class back later this year. They call it the Hyosung Cup. And you should find it really entertaining too, if you think a 883 is a better bike than a 916.:innocent:

[ellipsis]

...what number will you be riding in the Hyosung Cup...

[Crasherfromwayback]

Luckily for you they are bringing this class back later this year. They call it the Hyosung Cup. And you should find it really entertaining too, if you think a 883 is a better bike than a 916.:innocent:

I don't think that that's what he's saying at all. Are Hyosungs doing better than 1:19 at Manfeild? There's probably a few 916/996/999/1098/1198 pilots that can't yet circulating too.

[RobGassit]

I don't think that that's what he's saying at all. Are Hyosungs doing better than 1:19 at Manfeild? There's probably a few 916/996/999/1098/1198 pilots that can't yet circulating too.

883's and the Hyosung Cup, Both one make classes and provide great racing if there are lot's of entries. Can't remember any other one make classes in motorcycle racing at the moment. Car racing has done it many times over the years with great success. Mini's and Suzuki Swifts etc. I think it's an opportunity that motorcycle racing has missed. I wish the Hyosung Cup all the very best. I guess Protwins comes close with the SV650's. 1.19s or 2.19s? Not an issue for me. Some of the best racing I've ever seen was watching K100 karts at Manfield. 30 plus all going hell for leather. Hilarious.
As for dissing the 916, well I personally think it's a bloody brilliant bike. But then I guess it's a personal thing.

[Crasherfromwayback]

883's and the Hyosung Cup, Both one make classes and provide great racing if there are lot's of entries.

As for dissing the 916, well I personally think it's a bloody brilliant bike. But then I guess it's a personal thing.

I agree.

I agree. The 916 must rate as one of THE most timeless bikes to have ever been built.

I'd love one.

[Clivoris]

Golly. That was a bit special really. Physics is a harsh mistress.

[Billy]

Luckily for you they are bringing this class back later this year. They call it the Hyosung Cup. And you should find it really entertaining too, if you think a 883 is a better bike than a 916.:innocent:

Yip,I think they are over the 30 mark for registered riders for the Hyosung cup

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yip,I think they are over the 30 mark for registered riders for the Hyosung cup

If I was a youngin wanting to make a name for myself I'd race those fuckers!

[wharfy]

Min 19 round Manfeild though. I know of a lot of guys on much faster better bikes that can't do that.

'canal - I've only ridden an 883 once - from Newlands to Porrirua and back - It was OK unless you wanted to accelerate or brake or turn corners - It was like a 300 lb GN 125

1:19 round the minefield, kudos :not:

[Crasherfromwayback]

'canal - I've only ridden an 883 once - from Newlands to Porrirua and back - It was OK unless you wanted to accelerate or brake or turn corners - It was like a 300 lb GN 125

1:19 round the minefield, kudos :not:

Hahaha...that's what they felt like to race for sure. Needed something to read down Puke's back straight...

[RobGassit]

He was lapping using the return road but everyone was too scared of him to protest.:laugh:

[RobGassit]

Yip,I think they are over the 30 mark for registered riders for the Hyosung cup


Missed you at the weekend Billy. Not the same without you lurkin about.

[wysper]

'canal - I've only ridden an 883 once - from Newlands to Porrirua and back - It was OK unless you wanted to accelerate or brake or turn corners -

Mine does all those things, maybe I have a defective one :wings:

[Billy]

Missed you at the weekend Billy. Not the same without you lurkin about.

Jeezus!!!Harden up young fella,Better get used to it cause its gonna be for good in the not too distant future.(Yes thats right,Retirement number 763 coming up haha)

[wharfy]

Mine does all those things, maybe I have a defective one :wings:

Maybe I exaggerated a little bit - but hey this is Kiwibiker :)

[RobGassit]

Jeezus!!!Harden up young fella,Better get used to it cause its gonna be for good in the not too distant future.(Yes thats right,Retirement number 763 coming up haha)

Yeah sure!! Next you'll be telling me you have bought some golf clubs. It's who you are dude. Those south island laps came in handy at the weekend. I was hoping you might come out of retirement and give my rider some wet weather coaching.

[Billy]

Maybe I exaggerated a little bit - but hey this is Kiwibiker :)

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:, What are you trying to say???

[Billy]

Yeah sure!! Next you'll be telling me you have bought some golf clubs. It's who you are dude. Those south island laps came in handy at the weekend. I was hoping you might come out of retirement and give my rider some wet weather coaching.

So you werent paying attention at round 2 then,Shes prolly faster than me in the wet already!!

[Crasherfromwayback]

He was lapping using the return road but everyone was too scared of him to protest.:laugh:

Nah. Cause Brett Richmond, Bruce Anstey, Simon Turner, Ant Young, Andrew Rangi and the other top boys must've been taking the same route!:Punk:

[RobGassit]

So you werent paying attention at round 2 then,Shes prolly faster than me in the wet already!!

I wish. I might get her a 883. I hear they do 1.19's. You still making dresses for Ninjas? We are in need of a full length gown for the ball. I suppose a front guard as well is a big ask?

[RobGassit]

Nah. Cause Brett Richmond, Bruce Anstey, Simon Turner, Ant Young, Andrew Rangi and the other top boys must've been taking the same route!:Punk:

Yeah yeah. Calm down. I was there and watched you cowboys doin it. Well done. So you can ride a motorbike real good. But can you make a cheese scone?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeah yeah. Calm down. I was there and watched you cowboys doin it. But can you make a cheese scone?

I am calm mate. I could make a cheese scone in the time it took to do the back straight of Puke.

[Billy]

I wish. I might get her a 883. I hear they do 1.19's. You still making dresses for Ninjas? We are in need of a full length gown for the ball. I suppose a front guard as well is a big ask?

An 883,Why what did she do wrong??? I was shocked you made her ride a Hyosung for a whole year Haha!

Yeah no stress re Ninja bodywork,Have a front guard mould as well,Be warned,Dont leave it til the last minute though,Im already 2 sets behind with thw Ninja stuff.

[Billy]

I am calm mate. I could make a cheese scone in the time it took to do the back straight of Puke.

Yerr,But would it be edible and Im sure you could make a whole batch or 2 in that time LOL !

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yerr,But would it be edible and Im sure you could make a whole batch or 2 in that time LOL !

No. And no...just one at a time else the others would vibrate off! Fuck, one year at Puke, 3 laps to go and my fuel cap vibrated off. Trying to ride round there with my left hand over the fuel filler, as the venturi effect was sucking it out and blinding me.

After the race...when stories were being told, one of the guys warned me that I should have duct tape ove my front master cyl too, as they come off. Thought the cunt was having me on, as I'd never had it come loose. Guess what happened in race two? Thought I was losing it, as I'd taped my fuel cap on. Thought fuck that shit in my eyes is hurting a tad. Looked over and sure enough...master cyl cap was flapping in the breeze.

Last lap...heading into the hairpin and wondering about trying to outbrake Bruce. Is there any fluid left...will I simply sail off the end of the straight when the lever comes right back to the bar? Funny as. Took my fucking eyes days to get over that weekend.

[ducatilover]

I think you deserve serious beer for getting one of them around Manfield that quick. Bring the scones too.

As a comparison, what are the F3 guys doing around there?

[Crasherfromwayback]

I think you deserve serious beer for getting one of them around Manfield that quick. Bring the scones too.

As a comparison, what are the F3 guys doing around there?

Fuck the scones! The last meeting I went to, I was blown away by how quick EVERYONE was going!!! Think the top F3 punters were doing 1:11's? 13's? Fuck that!!!

[ducatilover]

Fuck the scones! The last meeting I went to, I was blown away by how quick EVERYONE was going!!! Think the top F3 punters were doing 1:11's? 13's? Fuck that!!!

Shit....is there a class where everyone is shit and slow like me? I better get my bike up and going and get out in to the learners group :laugh:
I don't think any of the 4cyls are going 1:19 or much faster at all....

[Billy]

Shit....is there a class where everyone is shit and slow like me? I better get my bike up and going and get out in to the learners group :laugh:
I don't think any of the 4cyls are going 1:19 or much faster at all....

Think again,Leigh Tidman has consistently lapped in the 1.15 bracket

[ducatilover]

Think again,Leigh Tidman has consistently lapped in the 1.15 bracket

Fook. Everyone's fast.
I reckon I could pedal the 600 around in 1:35 :shifty:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Think again,Leigh Tidman has consistently lapped in the 1.15 bracket

Jesus Christ...what on?

[Billy]

Jesus Christ...what on?

Clives old CBR400 NC29

[Billy]

Fook. Everyone's fast.
I reckon I could pedal the 600 around in 1:35 :shifty:

Crikey!!!!Calm down you'll hurt yourself LOL

[Crasherfromwayback]

Clives old CBR400 NC29

Fuck me dead! Min 16 in the day was the time to do on 250 proddies! That's seriously punting a CBR400!!!

[Billy]

Fuck me dead! Min 16 in the day was the time to do on 250 proddies! That's seriously punting a CBR400!!!

Yip,Hes definitely got some talent,Would like to see him do the Nats on something a bit more competitive.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yip,Hes definitely got some talent,Would like to see him do the Nats on something a bit more competitive.

Obviously! Therein lies the next 'issue'. The cost of racing something to get you noticed on in NZ.

[avgas]

Luckily for you they are bringing this class back later this year. They call it the Hyosung Cup. And you should find it really entertaining too, if you think a 883 is a better bike than a 916.:innocent:
Waaa waaa waaa
Don't cry because I said something bad about a 916.

If you read the sentences completely you would have noticed I talked about the perceptions about the bikes.
916 is not a bad bike. I feel it simply doesn't hold up to the pedestal people put it on. But I guess that is the age old saying "Never meet your childhood hero's - they will only disappoint you".

To add to the list of disappointments while I am at it:
- Jag XJ12
- Kawasaki Z900
- Yamaha RD350

Not bad vehicles - but I was expecting much more. My expectations were set to high due to what people had told me.

As for you comment about the Hyosung cup. This class is also good. Real grass roots stuff.
Ducati owners will never enter because they can't stand the fact that the machine is going fine, its them that is slow :bleh::jerry:

[RobGassit]

Waaa waaa waaa
Don't cry because I said something bad about a 916.

If you read the sentences completely you would have noticed I talked about the perceptions about the bikes.
916 is not a bad bike. I feel it simply doesn't hold up to the pedestal people put it on. But I guess that is the age old saying "Never meet your childhood hero's - they will only disappoint you".

To add to the list of disappointments while I am at it:
- Jag XJ12
- Kawasaki Z900
- Yamaha RD350

Not bad vehicles - but I was expecting much more. My expectations were set to high due to what people had told me.

As for you comment about the Hyosung cup. This class is also good. Real grass roots stuff.
Ducati owners will never enter because they can't stand the fact that the machine is going fine, its them that is slow :bleh::jerry:

No crying avgas. But if you post mad ravings on here, best prepare yourself for a response.

[Ronin]

No crying avgas. But if you post mad ravings on here, best prepare yourself for a response.

Kettle
black
calling
the
black
pot

[slowpoke]

Waaa waaa waaa
Don't cry because I said something bad about a 916.

If you read the sentences completely you would have noticed I talked about the perceptions about the bikes.
916 is not a bad bike. I feel it simply doesn't hold up to the pedestal people put it on. But I guess that is the age old saying "Never meet your childhood hero's - they will only disappoint you".

To add to the list of disappointments while I am at it:
- Jag XJ12
- Kawasaki Z900
- Yamaha RD350

Not bad vehicles - but I was expecting much more. My expectations were set to high due to what people had told me.

As for you comment about the Hyosung cup. This class is also good. Real grass roots stuff.
Ducati owners will never enter because they can't stand the fact that the machine is going fine, its them that is slow :bleh::jerry:

Gawd, not often I feel sorry for bikes/cars but I feel sorry for those machines you've ridden and driven....what a waste. It's nothing to do with "what people have told you" it's your own inability to put them in their correct context.

The Z900 is coming up to 40 years old, 230kg's and 80-ish hp, what would you expect? But back in the day it was absolutely unrivalled.

And the 916 was never about straight line speed it was designed to beat 750 4's not the GSXR/ZX1100 gruntmasters, but get it on it's ear in a fast sweeper and nothing could compare. And awesome design and engineering for the time.

Please, stay away from the classics.

Weak crack from the sidelines against Ducati racers, Johan Aberg, Nick Prestidge, Malcolm Foster, Wendy Harding and Damian Mackie (just to name a few Ducati racers off the top of my head) all prove you couldn't be more wrong.