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Jantar
20th August 2011, 11:11
Some clues:

While it doesn't have quite the right number of wheels to qualify as a motorcycle, it certainly isn't a car.

It is 50 years old so is a vintage machine.

KoroJ use to make it fly back in the mid 1970's, though it has been repainted since then.

Top speed is only around 220 kmh, and that's pretty good for something of this age.

The same model set world records between 1959 and 1968.

It is NOT a Jantar.

Any guesses?

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Edit: Photos added courtesy of KoroJ and Trademe. Pussy was the first to guess No engine.

Kickaha
20th August 2011, 11:18
You got an X-15 how fucking cool is that:laugh:

The X-15s made a total of 199 flights over a period of nearly 10 years -- 1959 to 1968 -- and set unofficial world speed and altitude records of 4,520 mph (Mach 6.7) and 354,200. According to an early edition of 'the Guinness book of world records' the X15 also holds the record for fastest landing speed at 242 mph compared with 210 mph for the space shuttle.

Pussy
20th August 2011, 11:25
What's its service ceiling?

Jantar
20th August 2011, 11:26
You got an X-15 how fucking cool is that:laugh:


Mmmmm.... Nice to dream about, but I don't think there would be anywhere around here to land it.

My toy is a bit more sedate than that. In some ways you are on the right track.

Jantar
20th August 2011, 11:29
What's its service ceiling?

I've only been up to 13,000' in one (no oxygen), but others have been to over 30,000'.

Pussy
20th August 2011, 11:34
Mmmmm.... Nice to dream about, but I don't think there would be anywhere around here to land it.

My toy is a bit more sedate than that. In some ways you are on the right track.

I was thinking more PA 18.....

Laava
20th August 2011, 11:37
A Skyhawk?

Pussy
20th August 2011, 11:40
I've only been up to 13,000' in one (no oxygen), but others have been to over 30,000'.

Starting to think there may not be a Lycoming or Continental bolted to the front of it.....

Jantar
20th August 2011, 11:42
OK, I've added photos to the first post. No engine.

Its a Schleicher Ka6cr-PE glider, commonly called a K6.

Mort
20th August 2011, 11:43
That is cool - I love gliders - the purest form of flying.

Pussy
20th August 2011, 11:51
That is cool - I love gliders - the purest form of flying.

I have done very little glider flying... the last time was in Nelson in a two hole Grob. Ivan Evans was PIC. Bloody loved it! Nowadays I just see them in the rear view mirror of the Pawnee.

Jantar
20th August 2011, 12:10
Pussy, glider pilots have great respect for the tow pilots. You guys give up your time so we can enjoy ourselves. And you have to fly so accurately because you have another aircraft flying in formation only 30 - 40 meters behind you.

My next task is to travel to Taranaki to collect it. It's based at Norfolk, just south of New Plymouth, so my wife and I are planning on a North Island trip in early October.

Pussy
20th August 2011, 12:18
Pussy, glider pilots have great respect for the tow pilots. You guys give up your time so we can enjopy ourselves. And you have to fly so accurately because you have another aircraft flying in formation only 30 - 40 meters behind you.

My next task is to travel to Taranaki to collect it. It's based at Norfolk, just south of New Plymouth, so my wife and I are planning on a North Island trip in early October.

TBH, I quite enjoy flying the Pawnee on towing. And it's always nice to get a "thank you" from the glider pilots. I do it just for shits and giggles.
If you need digs when you come up to the Naki, just sing out!

ducatilover
20th August 2011, 12:19
That is uber cool :love: Can I have a go?

FJRider
20th August 2011, 12:38
My next task is to travel to Taranaki to collect it. It's based at Norfolk, just south of New Plymouth, so my wife and I are planning on a North Island trip in early October.

Are you going to fly it back ... ???

riffer
20th August 2011, 12:40
Great stuff. My uncle, Gerry Gotlieb, was heavily involved in the gliding scene and took me out a few times in a two person glider.

Another reason to miss him now he's gone. :no:

Jantar
20th August 2011, 16:52
Great stuff. My uncle, Gerry Gotlieb, was heavily involved in the gliding scene and took me out a few times in a two person glider.

Another reason to miss him now he's gone. :no:


I used to know a Phil Gotlieb from Ohakune who flew with the Ruapehu club. Any relation?

Pussy
20th August 2011, 17:38
I used to know a Phil Gotlieb from Ohakune who flew with the Ruapehu club. Any relation?

I have met Phil when I was based at Taumarunui with Super Air.

riffer
20th August 2011, 20:01
I used to know a Phil Gotlieb from Ohakune who flew with the Ruapehu club. Any relation?


a couple removed, but still a cousin. All Gotliebs in New Zealand are related and come from a common source in Riga, Latvia.

James Deuce
20th August 2011, 20:29
Got my Bronze rating in 1983. Haven't been back. CBCIFTCB.

May have to do something about that.