View Full Version : If they're good enough for the SAS...
Jay GTI
24th August 2011, 14:53
A mate of mine (highly dodgy, always ends up in places he shouldn't be) was down in Waiouru sniffing around the army base and spotted some light brown KTMs lined up next to a compound. Apparently SAS bikes for desert ops in far away sandy countries, but he knows next to nothing about bikes and could tell me sod all about them.
Anyone know what they are?
george formby
24th August 2011, 14:57
That's interestin.
Apparently they used Super Teneres in the first Gulf War too. Not a lot of info was available at the time though.
You would have to be very handy to shoot & ride at the same time me thinks. I wonder if the Taliban use Ag bikes or postie bikes, hmmmm:laugh:
Jay GTI
24th August 2011, 15:05
The only detail he could give were they had a reasonable amount of fairings and bodywork, more than an SX or EXC, but definitely not to the level of the KTM desert race bikes. Could be custom plastics/fairings though.
george formby
24th August 2011, 15:14
Hmmmmmmmm, looky here (http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hubb/ktm-tech/ktm-military-32531)
Jay GTI
24th August 2011, 15:26
iiiiiiiiinteresting... have forwarded to mate to see if that's what he spotted.
Nice searching!
Mungatoke Mad
24th August 2011, 15:31
That's interestin.
Apparently they used Super Teneres in the first Gulf War too. Not a lot of info was available at the time though.
You would have to be very handy to shoot & ride at the same time me thinks. I wonder if the Taliban use Ag bikes or postie bikes, hmmmm:laugh:Na the Taliban are under contract to Toyota
Jay GTI
24th August 2011, 15:34
Matey has confirmed, LC400 Militarys they are... :yes:
oneofsix
24th August 2011, 15:40
might be worth noting that just because they were seen there it doesn't follow the NZ Army will use them, they could be being tested. The army has tested Hummers but never bought them.
fastoyz
24th August 2011, 15:52
yes they do use them they are ktm 525 exc`s, have seen a couple pop up for sale now and again and they pretty much look like rattle can painted pieces of crap!
george formby
24th August 2011, 15:58
yes they do use them they are ktm 525 exc`s, have seen a couple pop up for sale now and again and they pretty much look like rattle can painted pieces of crap!
Not Squaddie proof then?
Jay GTI
24th August 2011, 16:09
yes they do use them they are ktm 525 exc`s, have seen a couple pop up for sale now and again and they pretty much look like rattle can painted pieces of crap!
Ha ha, ok so maybe not LC400s, but my mate really doesn't know anything about bikes so I'll forgive him. He can confirm the rattle can paint jobs though, there was large flakes of paint on the ground under one of them.
fastoyz
24th August 2011, 16:12
Not Squaddie proof then?
the importer i used to work for used to supply them with moose tubes
pete376403
24th August 2011, 19:49
US Marines bikes are Hayes diesel-powered KLRs. A lot to be said for being able to flag down a passing tank or truck and getting a bit of get-you-home fuel.
http://www.hayes-dt.com/military.htm#bike1
FlangMasterJ
24th August 2011, 20:05
My KLR250 was ex-military. Look's like they're upgrading.
Ktmboy
24th August 2011, 20:14
They used to be 520's but are being fazed out.
Have been used by the SAS in Afganistan (and other ops) way back before it was acknowledged that we even had troops over there(2000-2002).
We used fly them over secret squirrel like but were minus a few on the way home..
Pornstar
25th August 2011, 03:44
there is one in the army museum just as ya walk in, 2005 exc 400 or 450.
scott411
25th August 2011, 07:02
the army have had bikes for years and years, they had xl250's for many years, then kawasaki klr250's, (which i think they still use at times) and the SAS use these KTM's as well, perfect transportation in the terrain, not to sure what else would be quicker across rough terrain,
Urano
25th August 2011, 08:19
SAS bikes for desert ops in far away sandy countries,
as OZ?
that was well the time for you to go and invade that sandy box...
by the way, our "state of the art"... :facepalm:
http://annunci.ebay.it/annunci/moto/pescara-annunci-pescara/moto-guzzi-ex-esercito/17592572
Blagger
25th August 2011, 08:33
The big KTM's are mentioned in the official SAS history which was published maybe 6 months ago?
They were used as outriders/scouts to find a clear way forward for the main SAS convoy/patrol.
Apparently the Taliban used to call the NZ SAS "the pricklies" cos they were open-topped and bristling with firearms..
The book refers to several times when the bikes went up neighbouring lookout hills using mostly just the back wheel.
Anything that can get you out of trouble fast can also get you into trouble fast
barty5
25th August 2011, 08:49
And if you know where to look there are some up for sale.
dafydd roberts
25th August 2011, 17:43
Have a look at what christini are supplying the USA millitary and the all new 300 coming soon.
Anyone wanting any info send me an email.
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