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Brian d marge
26th August 2011, 22:21
Hi all can someone explain this wifi to me, somehow I manage to install a router and connect to the internet ...how push buttons and follow the on screen instructions.
but when a curve ball is thrown ...no sir I don't like it

here in japan the provider is called softbank, they have a wifi service called FON. a Don le into a router...now I have that service installed and am using it now, and can do in other places, but in one place ( a customers shop) he has it installed but I cannot connect,
well it connects OK but I can't view the web page, says something about the service ..... so why in one place ..Now ... I can connect automatically, but in the next with what one assumes to be the same service ...I can't ....
I'm using android tablet, Acer a500 gingerbread.... one more thing, my phone connects ( android 2.2) but I have installed an app from softbank which allows automatic connection...

what are these people up to, is this some strange computer code to stop data transmission.....

can someone enlighten me ...( I'm old so be gentle)

stephen

Sable
26th August 2011, 22:28
Okay. WiFi sends packets of data through the air so you will need a net to catch them. This typically is not supplied and you will have to buy it seperately. Make sure you get the right size net for the amount of data you'll be receiving.

Brian d marge
26th August 2011, 23:32
:Police:
Okay. WiFi sends packets of data through the air so you will need a net to catch them. This typically is not supplied and you will have to buy it seperately. Make sure you get the right size net for the amount of data you'll be receiving.:Police:

now explain the net

george formby
27th August 2011, 10:18
This is prolly of no use whatsoever but.......
The commonest problem I have with customers connecting to my wifi network is their computers trying to open a web page through their preferred connection even though they are connected to my connection. Clear as mud ay?
Allowing the computer to connect to an available network & disabling the preferred network usually works, so does restarting the laptop.

When asked to explain how it works I usually say it's the Faeries.:laugh:

Urano
27th August 2011, 19:45
fon is a system widely used around the world, and in europe in spain especially...

look here, maybe can help:
http://corp.fon.com/en

avgas
27th August 2011, 21:12
Could be:
a) Encryption is incorrect (e.g. wep vs wpa)
b) Password is incorrect (in some routers this will show you are connected......but you can't do anything).
c) Subnet is wrong. Or you have a fixed IP off the subnet. Or IP filtering is enabled on the router. (Show you as having a "partial" connection)....

I have no idea if there is a tracert tool for Android, but if there is tell it to find www.google.com and tell me what IP addresses it ends up with.

Sorry but right now your question is like this:
"I went to the garage today, found oil underneath the bike, the bike won't start. If it helps the bike is a 1957 Triumph 3TA"

avgas
27th August 2011, 21:18
hmm some basic wifi explanation here.

wifi is just like normal ethernet. But it lets you jump into different mediums and "routes" the path for you.
So your "data" gets told to leave your tablet, the wifi adapter says "Hey I can help with that - I have a gateway to something else". It then passes the information to the wifi router over the air. The wifi router then checks a whole lot of credentials like they do on border patrol and if any of those credentials don't match you don't go anywhere. However if they all line up fine, all the boxes are ticked and the data is then sent to an area that tells it where do go. This is usually via Domain Name Server that tells it the address it needs to go to.

Sounds like your problem is with the border patrol - hence my ideas below. You won't find this with other routers as there will be something "custom" with that particular router that doesn't line up with your settings (that work on the other sites).

scracha
29th August 2011, 09:16
Changing IP, DNS and proxy settings from DHCP on Android isn't something you can do "accidentally" and unlike WinXP, it reprompts you if there's a wifi passkey mismatch.

So from you're explanation, I'm 99% sure it's the settings in the customer's shop.

Wonder if customer using a proxy but the settings (proxy.pac) not getting through to Android device.

Brian d marge
29th August 2011, 18:42
Sorry but right now your question is like this:
"I went to the garage today, found oil underneath the bike, the bike won't start. If it helps the bike is a 1957 Triumph 3TA"

That about sums up my Knowledge of the little black box that delivers the porn

Stephen

Brian d marge
29th August 2011, 18:48
I think its a setting , in the numb nutz router ,

How to solve it is ,,,,one for another time

Stephen

steve_t
29th August 2011, 18:54
I've had that same problem before and it was a proxy setting issue