See rep on other's posts?

[Winston001]

Can we see who has repd somebody elses post? And the comments?

Also, is there any indication in threads that a post has been reped?

[FJRider]

Can we see who has repd somebody elses post? And the comments?

Also, is there any indication in threads that a post has been reped?

You CAN go to a members profile page and see their last 30 reps ...

NOT WHO ...

AND NOT COMMENTS

[hayd3n]

i recieved a pm earlier from a certin someone and it mentioned my rep to anotherperson

[Winston001]

Thanks Trev. Nevertheless a member has contacted me because of a bling I gave to another member's post. So that person did know who - me. How? Its not a problem but I cannot figure out how to do the same.

And I cannot see how you'd ever know bling had been awarded to a post when browsing a thread.

[onearmedbandit]

The only people who can see rep given, other than the recipient is senior mod's and admins. No one else can see comments left. So if someone contacted you about rep left it's because someone talked...

[Usarka]

Or someone has dual logins :sherlock:

[Katman]

<img src="http://faroutshirts.com/images/CeilingCat-preview_tn.png"/>

[bogan]

Or someone has dual logins :sherlock:

Or they are psychic :scratch:

[FJRider]

The only people who can see rep given, other than the recipient is senior mod's and admins. No one else can see comments left. So if someone contacted you about rep left it's because someone talked...

Winston001 ...Speak (contact) a mod ... unless you left a not nice comment on a red/green rep ... it (any comment) SHOULD remain between YOU and the Recipient ... site rules ... (as I understand)

[Mort]

Yeah I've seen the PM too....

[huff3r]

Yeah I've seen the PM too....

Ditto. I also wondered how the certain somebody knew it was me. No bother though, the PM was so rude and degrading about the original poster it just furthered the original posters cause :shit::yes:

[FJRider]

And I cannot see how you'd ever know bling had been awarded to a post when browsing a thread.

You CAN'T when browsing a thread ... but good/bad bling awarded to a member can be seen on their profile page ... who by is guesswork ... untill the member talks ...

Not what comment was made though ... just bling was awarded ...

[Mort]

something stinks here. I would like a moderator to state what happened, who supplied bling details and what the purpose was behind doing so.


Are Blings confidential or not ?
Who supplied bling details to a commercial user or does he have those rights ?
Is it right that a member who uses these pages for commercial gain (and for all I know pays KB for the privilege) should be able to gain access to confidential information sent by members in confidence and to use that information to peddle his goods and defamatory lies about another member using KB private messages.
What other access is he "allowed" on this site ?


Basically WTF is going on here ? I know discussions have been had between moderators - what was the outcome ?

[Mental Trousers]

Are Blings confidential or not ?


No. That is all.

[Mort]

what's that supposed to mean ...?

I think members have the right to know what is confidential and what isnt.

[Mental Trousers]

PM's are (although abusive ones are read by the Moderators). Anything else, best watch what you say.

[Jantar]

...Basically WTF is going on here ? I know discussions have been had between moderators - what was the outcome ?
Interesting. I'm a mod and I haven't the foggiest idea what this is all about. Sorry, even us basic mods can't see who sent bling or what the comments were.

[Mort]

Interesting. I'm a mod and I haven't the foggiest idea what this is all about. Sorry, even us basic mods can't see who sent bling or what the comments were.

Interesting - must be a senior moderator or administrator priv then. (which narrows it down a bit (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showgroups.php)) and MT has confirmed KB PM's are also visible and, we must assume, are made available to the right people.

May I ask an open question in the interest of clarity to all members ?

What price is the integrity of a moderator/admin with such KB system privs when asked to provide commercial members with what is widely regarded as confidential communication for the purpose of commercial gain and peddling defamatory comment about a customer and KB member via KB PMs ?

I can see the need for mods to be trusted to have such privs but it should also come with responsibility to uphold the policies and principles of the site especially privacy. I don't think that has occurred here.

[Maha]

I had a red rep comment changed once, and then it went from red to green...:yes:
Turned out that the ''repper'' thought I was the mod who bin his post to PD...:violin:
Senior mods can do/see anything they like. I have seen it first hand, but my lips are sealed.

[Mental Trousers]

Interesting - must be a senior moderator or administrator priv then. (which narrows it down a bit (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showgroups.php)) and MT has confirmed KB PM's are also visible and, we must assume, are made available to the right people.

Abusive PM's are forwarded to the Moderators. We can't read them directly.

[DrunkenMistake]

Narrow it down,
if you all got PM's about Rep,
who PM'd you,
and was it word for word.

:facepalm:

[Mort]

yeah - you're skirting around the issue there MT - not a good look. :sick:

How about answering the questions properly ?

[Mental Trousers]

That's all the answers you're going to get. This isn't a democracy and the laws/rules are made by 2 people.

If that doesn't suit you then I suggest you take it up with a higher power. According to my wife God is out there and listening.

[KiWiP]

On a public forum it is real easy to find out what's behind the "door". A basic knowledge of HTML code and using a rudimentary sub-ping router allows anyone with a password full administrator privileges.

There are also many back doors to multi user sites one of the most common is evident on this forum. To exploit it simply log out and log in again but enter the user name "GOD" (all capitals) and enter the password "1f4iL8i9T!m3" (this is a standard firmware password that admin can't remove)

You now have full administration access. Don't abuse it though as you'll cause the site to come crashing down. Good fun to see what people are saying about you in other peoples PMs though.

Have fun

[DrunkenMistake]

On a public forum it is real easy to find out what's behind the "door". A basic knowledge of HTML code and using a rudimentary sub-ping router allows anyone with a password full administrator privileges.

There are also many back doors to multi user sites one of the most common is evident on this forum. To exploit it simply log out and log in again but enter the user name "GOD" (all capitals) and enter the password "1f4iL8i9T!m3" (this is a standard firmware password that admin can't remove)

You now have full administration access. Don't abuse it though as you'll cause the site to come crashing down. Good fun to see what people are saying about you in other peoples PMs though.

Have fun

I wonder how many people will try it.. :facepalm:

Edit:
but I can see you red repped me for it :shit:! IT MIGHT HAVE WORKED!!

[Mort]

That's all the answers you're going to get. This isn't a democracy and the laws/rules are made by 2 people.

If that doesn't suit you then I suggest you take it up with a higher power. According to my wife God is out there and listening.

Right - so that answers that then.

You supplied the rep user list and comments. Why did you do that ?

You issued infractions against me for my "hypothetical" post about experiences of a trader (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/141576-TradeMe...-ripped-off!?p=1130143189#post1130143189) - which would be of legitimate interest to other bikers on here and at the same time provided him with the means to issue lying defamatory emails about me to members who happened to agree with what I said (feedback which was thought to be confidential).

Bikers use this forum for lots of reasons but above all they expect to be fairly treated by moderators. You go to great lengths to spell out the rules we should all abide by and rightly so. If those rules are made by two people - which ones were you following then ?

This really stinks.

[DrunkenMistake]

Lol,
just go with the flow man,
This is Kiwibiker,
its a public forum for bikers in New Zealand,
Your just over thinking, as for infractions and rules,
I think its more willy nilly, I know I had one for some stuff I had said about another member, was pretty blunt, but wasnt all that bad,
where recently that same member said something twice as bad about me more than once and two me, yet those posts havnt been P.D'd etc.
Just how it goes,
Always an easy fix, dont like it, dont log in haha

[Mort]

I don't give a stuff about the infractions.... in this context I can clearly see the true reason why they were given.

This is about privacy and senior moderator privileged support for certain members and their "dealings" regardless of rules which we (as members) would otherwise expect.

[Maha]

They (senior mods) could see who posted tags which was handy on the odd occassion...if you know what I mean...:yes:

[Mental Trousers]

This is about privacy and senior moderator privileged support for certain members and their "dealings" regardless of rules which we (as members) would otherwise expect.

If you're worried about privacy take it to someone who can do something about it then. I honestly couldn't tell you who that would be though.

The internet is not as open and free as people believe. Every piece of equipment that powers the internet is owned by someone and at anytime they can change the rules arbitrarily. Most of the time though they play the game and follow the Free and Open ethos.

The problem is that there's nobody that rules the entire internet. Without a single body to tell everyone what to do that responsibility devolves down to the owners of the equipment. The UN, the US and pretty much all of the world Governments would dearly love to change that, but they haven't been able to and aren't likely to anytime soon.

As for the internet and privacy, you don't have any. Your ISP tracks and logs alsorts of stuff, as do other organisations. The only way to maintain absolute privacy on the internet is not to take part in it.

[Mort]

its got fuck all to do with "internet privacy".

Its about you passing confidential messages to a KB member who used it to send lies and defamation about his business and me.

Where is your integrity ?

[Mental Trousers]

It's got everything to do with internet privacy. You're on the internet, not sitting in the same room as other people talking to them face to face.

[Mort]

Thats a bullshit answer and you know it.

[Kickaha]

You issued infractions against me for my post about experiences of a trader (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/141576-TradeMe...-ripped-off!?p=1130143189#post1130143189) - which would be of legitimate interest to other bikers on here

What was the reason given for the infraction?, you didn't even name any member or business in that thread

[tigertim20]

No. That is all.
why not?

what's that supposed to mean ...?

I think members have the right to know what is confidential and what isnt.
Agreed. aside from 'hacking' we are entitled to at leastknow what areas of this site allow privacy, and those which do not.

Interesting. I'm a mod and I haven't the foggiest idea what this is all about. Sorry, even us basic mods can't see who sent bling or what the comments were.
have a look at recent threads . . .

Lol,
just go with the flow man,
This is Kiwibiker,
its a public forum for bikers in New Zealand,
Your just over thinking, as for infractions and rules,
I think its more willy nilly, I know I had one for some stuff I had said about another member, was pretty blunt, but wasnt all that bad,
where recently that same member said something twice as bad about me more than once and two me, yet those posts havnt been P.D'd etc.
Just how it goes,
Always an easy fix, dont like it, dont log in haha
You have absolutely no idea what this thread is actually talking about do you?

What was the reason given for the infraction?, you didn't even name any member or business in that thread

my thoughts exactly, why should Mort receive an infraction, when a certain other poster was A) given info they have no right to, and B) was allowed to send multiple emails stating nasty things, in which a person was named in full? smells like bullshit to me.

It seems only reasonable that the users of a site, who by all means contribute to, and help make it what it is, should be given straight answers about how exactly the site is run, and what the limits are of their privacy while on that site.
What if poster A sends Poster B their phone number, address, etc etc, does that information become as public as bling comments and their source apparently are?

Looks to me as though this farcical mess has already cost this site one highly valuable and worthwhile person removing themselves from an active role in the running of this site. perhaps it is in the best interests of all to justbe honest about it.

[Kickaha]

Looks to me as though this farcical mess has already cost this site one highly valuable and worthwhile person removing themselves from an active role in the running of this site.

highly valuable and worthwhile person?

You're obviously not talking about Ken so who did you mean?

[tigertim20]

highly valuable and worthwhile person?

You're obviously not talking about Ken so who did you mean?
:gob: lol!

[Mort]

What was the reason given for the infraction?, you didn't even name any member or business in that thread

Apparently I was "Skating a thin line " which is a mixed metaphor if ever I heard one.... He made out like I am some sort of menace to the entire forum because I had a problem with a known trader on here.

Actually it was just part of his package of measures he put in place in support of his mate... measures which transcend the rules which all other members and moderators are expected to follow... and measures which one particular senior moderator with REAL integrity was not prepared to cover up for.

[Quasievil]

Apparently I was "Skating a thin line " which is a mixed metaphor if ever I heard one.... He made out like I am some sort of menace to the entire forum because I had a problem with a known trader on here.

Actually it was just part of his package of measures he put in place in support of his mate... measures which transcend the rules which all other members and moderators are expected to follow... and measures which one particular senior moderator with REAL integrity was not prepared to cover up for.

Maybe its more about your campaign of B.S that is inappropriate and and harassing and or problematic.
maybe your attempts at getting your side of the story out with your large sanctimonious and arrogant attitude in attempts to cause damage to a respected business via harvesting like minded douche bags.

What are you going to do now Mort, wait 7 months and take KB to court and demand a refund and lose..............again
You got mediums available to you use them as you know so well how to and get your shit of KB.

Douche

[blackdog]

Maybe its more about your campaign of B.S that is inappropriate and and harassing and or problematic.
maybe your attempts at getting your side of the story out with your large sanctimonious and arrogant attitude in attempts to cause damage to a respected business via harvesting like minded douche bags.

What are you going to do now Mort, wait 7 months and take KB to court and demand a refund and lose..............again
You got mediums available to you use them as you know so well how to and get your shit of KB.

Douche

S'funny, until now I had no idea that he had been talking about you.

[Quasievil]

Yeah Mort is on a little hurt campaign, he is a very complicated individual I think:yes:

[Mort]

Yeah Mort is on a little hurt campaign, he is a very complicated individual I think:yes:

Yep, its all a figment of my vivid imagination..... totally without any basis in reality.

But for the record, I didn't lose the court case.... Just because you can't understand the order does not mean you win.

[warewolf]

Ah, KiddieBiker at its best! As has been suggested, go elsewhere if you expect grown-up behaviour, the rot obviously starts at the top.

Site Rules

Rule 0: The mods don't follow the rules.

Next!

[chanceyy]

Site Rules

Rule 0: The mods don't follow the rules.

Next!


ohh slight correction there ... Mods have even been known to be infracted for not following the rules :laugh: :shutup: :innocent:

[Kickaha]

ohh slight correction there ... Mods have even been known to be infracted for not following the rules :laugh: :shutup: :innocent:

And sacked:shutup:

[chanceyy]

And sacked:shutup:

Lets not forget the option to resign ;) :blink:

[Katman]

S'funny, until now I had no idea that he had been talking about you.

To be fair, this sentence should have been a dead giveaway.


Slagging off competitors and promoting his own products at every turn.

[Quasievil]

To be fair, this sentence should have been a dead giveaway.


Where?

As opposed to just slagging everyone of you fucking moron.

[nodrog]

O for Orsume!

[huff3r]

Id be worried personally about the PM containing full-names being out-right defamation. Don't know what NZ law does about such things, but it certainly stinks to be sure.

Anyone who goes out of their way to muddy someone elses name, and does so naming full names, is some-one whom I will certainly never trust. I fear now, if I did business with such a person and things went sour for whatever reason, what kind of smear campaign said business-person would run against me? :shit:

The whole thing stinks. And I'm really disappointed it was allowed to happen in the first place. No honour, no integrity, no simple god-damned respect.

This is a new low for KB IMHO.

Found it: http://www.howtolaw.co.nz/html/ml146.asp
I'd say it fits the bill very well.

Ooooh some red rep ae? I guess it is worth making a huge fuss over and ensuring you never get any business from certain people yeah? I think I'll be shopping at 1tonne now.. :D

[imdying]

Some of you faggots take the internet waaaay to seriously....

<img src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9qiNGYkITRQ/SFxTJYoWYMI/AAAAAAAAEHg/fevLO1jujOk/s400/22am4h.jpg" />

[imdying]

This is a new low for KB IMHO.Fuck, are you new here??!?!? We have been waaaay lower than this. Considerably further so :shutup:

<img src="http://frankenhell.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/666.bmp" />

[tigertim20]

Maybe its more about your campaign of B.S that is inappropriate and and harassing and or problematic.
maybe your attempts at getting your side of the story out with your large sanctimonious and arrogant attitude in attempts to cause damage to a respected business via harvesting like minded douche bags.

What are you going to do now Mort, wait 7 months and take KB to court and demand a refund and lose..............again
You got mediums available to you use them as you know so well how to and get your shit of KB.

Douche
while you piss on about sanctimonious this and innapropriate that, lets just analyze..
Mort - mentioned no names,simply made a post, about a bad purchasing experience he had. he made this post in a thread about bad purchasing experiences. He mentioned NO names. He mentioned NO companies. In fact, the way it was written it could have even been a fictional 'for example'. Mort didbugger all wrong from what I can see. Maybe he stepped close to the line, but thats about it.
Qausi: lied and abused people, used connections to access information that should have been private, used this information to contact and harass people (yes, harass, several of those people complained about your PMs qausi) named names and quite possible defamed a member of this board.
So, why the fuck has qausi not been banned? as for that, any person who assisted him in accessing the onformation should have been given the boot too

S'funny, until now I had no idea that he had been talking about you.
thats it innit, few mates of mine received the qausi PM, and that was the FIRST thing most of them said, they had zero idea what it was all about, Now, I reckon qausi's actions have caused many times more harm to himself and his reputation than any action performed by any other person on here

Yeah Mort is on a little hurt campaign, he is a very complicated individual I think:yes:
At least Mort didnt go crying like a little bitch to his sugar daddy to get help.
at least mort said what he had to say, out in the open, for ALL to see, instead of sendingsecret squirrell PMs behind someones back like you ya gutless ballbag

Id be worried personally about the PM containing full-names being out-right defamation. Don't know what NZ law does about such things, but it certainly stinks to be sure.

Anyone who goes out of their way to muddy someone elses name, and does so naming full names, is some-one whom I will certainly never trust. I fear now, if I did business with such a person and things went sour for whatever reason, what kind of smear campaign said business-person would run against me? :shit:

The whole thing stinks. And I'm really disappointed it was allowed to happen in the first place. No honour, no integrity, no simple god-damned respect.

This is a new low for KB IMHO.

I agree with that totally. Id be considering seekingadvice if I was mort, bonus being that since mort has already put qausi over a barrel in court and had his way with him once, he probably stands a good chance!

A bit sickening that SOME PEOPLE DONT HAVE THE BALLS TO COME OUT AND SAY IT HOW IT IS. and thats not limited to qausi, someone helped him for sure, does that someone have the balls to admit it?

[imdying]

at least mort said what he had to say, out in the open, for ALL to see, instead of sendingsecret squirrell PMs behind someones back like you ya gutless ballbagNo offence to Mort, but writing a post like that which doesn't name names, but which everybody knows does, making it impossible for the basically named party to refute without outing themselves to those that don't know, is not out in the open. It is just as behind the back and gutless. If you wipe his cum off of your chin and out of your eyes, you'll see that yourself.

If you retards can't even leave it at the door of the courts, water under the bridge and all that shite, then man up and sort it once and for all:
<img src="http://www.boxnews.com.ua/photos/1131/Cory-Spinks-Jones.jpg" />

Either that or STFU so we don't have to see your petty dramas played out on here.

[bogan]

Fuck, are you new here??!?!? We have been waaaay lower than this. Considerably further so :shutup:


I seem to remember the previous lows being more humerous though.

Anyway, when people read a post like mort's, and immediatly figure he is probably talking about Quasi gear, shows Quasi has a serious branding problem!

My personal opinion is it would be damn rare to get that sort of problem without it being at least partially the brand's fault.

[imdying]

I seem to remember the previous lows being more humerous though.Perspective mate, I for one am loling at this one :D


Anyway, when people read a post like mort's, and immediatly figure he is probably talking about Quasi gear, shows Quasi has a serious branding problem!I've never had a bad experience with Quasi, only bloody good ones in fact, but I have to admit I figured that's what it was all about when I read it. I'm not sure if that's a branding problem, or an ability to manipulate social media problem... what do you think?

[Katman]

As opposed to just slagging everyone of you fucking moron.

:facepalm:

[bogan]

Perspective mate, I for one am loling at this one :D


That must be it.


I've never had a bad experience with Quasi, only bloody good ones in fact, but I have to admit I figured that's what it was all about when I read it. I'm not sure if that's a branding problem, or an ability to manipulate social media problem... what do you think?

Social media problems cause reputation problems which are problems for the brand!

[imdying]

Social media problems cause reputation problems which are problems for the brand!For sure, but I was driving at the root cause.

[Katman]

I don't think the problem is with the brand.

I think the problem is with the mouth-piece.

[tigertim20]

No offence to Mort, but writing a post like that which doesn't name names, but which everybody knows does, making it impossible for the basically named party to refute without outing themselves to those that don't know, is not out in the open. It is just as behind the back and gutless. If you wipe his cum off of your chin and out of your eyes, you'll see that yourself.

If you retards can't even leave it at the door of the courts, water under the bridge and all that shite, then man up and sort it once and for all:
Either that or STFU so we don't have to see your petty dramas played out on here.

If you remove qausi's dick from your backside and your face from the pillow you're biting maybe youll see what the issue here is actually about.
Maybe you think its sweet that qausi can get his bum-boys to run around and do his bitch work for him, and use them to collect information, so he can breach other peoples privacy, harass people with PMs, abuse those who dont agree with him. There is nothing underhanded about making a post on the forum, you whine because he didnt name qausi, well, if he DID name qausi, youd be the first to bitch about openly defammatory posts or something, he made the post out in the open, without breaching rules, privacy and without being a gutless ballbag.

as for leaving it all at the courts and off the boards cos you dont wanna see it, what would you do with your day if you werent in here bitching about it?

[huff3r]

I don't think the problem is with the brand.

I think the problem is with the mouth-piece.

Apparently my name is now "fucknuts"...

I know who I wont be buying from now, makes it so much easier to decide between Quasi and 1Tonne.

Somebody needs to google customer relations, before said someone really screws themselves over. Good word is spread to 1-3 people, bad word is spread to 4-8. :facepalm:

[Katman]

It's all like a bit of a slow motion train wreck really.

[imdying]

If you remove Quasi's dick from your backside and your face from the pillow you're biting maybe you'll see what the issue here is actually about.I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion, I even admitted it was him I thought of first... that hardly smacks of bias :facepalm:


Maybe you think its sweet that Quasi can get his bum-boys to run around and do his bitch work for him, and use them to collect information, so he can breach other peoples privacy, harass people with PMs, abuse those who dont agree with him.Oh noes, people on the interwebs doing mean things. Maybe you should consider pulling his hair?

<img src="http://www.lohl.net/image.php?id=832" />


if he DID name Quasi, you'd be the first to bitch about openly defamatory posts or somethingWhat? Are you new here? You think I would give a fuck???? What? Are you new here?


what would you do with your day if you weren't in here bitching about it?Troll niggers probably :innocent:

[Quasievil]

If you remove qausi's dick from your backside and your face from the pillow you're biting maybe youll see what the issue here is actually about.


Actually Fact is No one on this entire forum knows what its about.
just taking sides as well as a few rantings and dribblings, some from my haters which love band-wagoning with the usual anti me comments how dare you speak your mind, how dare you be a moderatley successful brand and you must DIE, pull out the cross and BURN HIM!!
and then their are some from people with a desire to comment on anything.

huffer Tigertim Katman and a few others generally climb into me for there own reasons which I don't particularly care about......enjoy yourselfs, none of you know me.

Assumptions on rep viewing are laughable, dont you plonkers think I can figure shit out:yes: conspiracy theorists reign every where!

Fact is Mort and I have an issue over a suit that we made some time ago, and we are sorting it out, we make many most have no problems some do, its the fact of custom gear, same situations arise from other brands, ask sherriffs about his Astar, ask Stamanovo about her tecknics, it happens we try to sort it out as best as we can.

And with Mort we hope to sort the remaining issue (not suit related) out soon.:yes:

[tigertim20]

Troll niggers probably :innocent:
LOL!

Actually Fact is No one on this entire forum knows what its about.

Assumptions on rep viewing are laughable, dont you plonkers think I can figure shit out:yes: conspiracy theorists reign every where!

:

more people know than you think.

ahh, right, you have a crystalball, which made you realise that several people who NEVER posted in that thread gave a rep to mort huh?
nothing to do with your MaTe going through peoples rep comments and passing info to you he shouldnt be?
Yip. Pull the other one qausi. Still lack the balls to be up front about it, no surprise there.

[Quasievil]

LOL!


more people know than you think.

ahh, right, you have a crystalball, which made you realise that several people who NEVER posted in that thread gave a rep to mort huh?
nothing to do with your MaTe going through peoples rep comments and passing info to you he shouldnt be?
Yip. Pull the other one qausi. Still lack the balls to be up front about it, no surprise there.

Im not here to convert you TigerTim its to late for you.

[tigertim20]

Im not here to convert you TigerTim its to late for you.

next time you crash test your own gear, can you do us all a favour and crash a little harder?:bye:

[Quasievil]

next time you crash test your own gear, can you do us all a favour and crash a little harder?:bye:

Wow thats a little mean dont you think.
unbelievable that you are so angry sad dude

thanks for wishing me to be hurt in a crash also, uncool

[tigertim20]

Wow thats a little mean dont you think.
unbelievable that you are so angry sad dude

thanks for wishing me to be hurt in a crash also, uncool

no meaner than the vebal abuse you spout at others.
harden the fuck up.
this whole thing started because of your oversensitivity

[Quasievil]

no meaner than the vebal abuse you spout at others.
harden the fuck up.
this whole thing started because of your oversensitivity

Good to know you have "it all worked out"
I know of a few arseholes on KB, youre the latest entrant.

[HenryDorsetCase]

If you're worried about privacy take it to someone who can do something about it then. I honestly couldn't tell you who that would be though.

The internet is not as open and free as people believe. Every piece of equipment that powers the internet is owned by someone and at anytime they can change the rules arbitrarily. Most of the time though they play the game and follow the Free and Open ethos.

The problem is that there's nobody that rules the entire internet. Without a single body to tell everyone what to do that responsibility devolves down to the owners of the equipment. The UN, the US and pretty much all of the world Governments would dearly love to change that, but they haven't been able to and aren't likely to anytime soon.

As for the internet and privacy, you don't have any. Your ISP tracks and logs alsorts of stuff, as do other organisations. The only way to maintain absolute privacy on the internet is not to take part in it.

That answer boils down to "fuck you, and the horse you rode in on".

I think you've been outed for doing something that most of the members dont agree with, and you dont like it.

Personally I was quite surprised to receive Bret's PM. Yes, I green rep'ed Mort's post on the thread of doom, but only because I thought it was well written. And as I said to Bret in response to his PM, thats why, and I have no issue buying from QMoto, or with the products or service I ahve received from him.

But making that information available to him, so he could see what others who THOUGHT they were doing something in private? bad form.

Poor show, old man, poor show.

But, its the internet, its not like its real, or important, right?

[HenryDorsetCase]

Assumptions on rep viewing are laughable, dont you plonkers think I can figure shit out:yes: conspiracy theorists reign every where!


So are you stating that in fact the generally held view here is incorrect? (that generally held view being that a list of people who had left reputation on Mort's comment, good or bad, in the thread of doom was given to you, and not just the status either but the comment wording also)

[Katman]

dont you plonkers think I can figure shit out

Is that a serious question?

[BoristheBiter]

Anyway, when people read a post like mort's, and immediatly figure he is probably talking about Quasi gear, shows Quasi has a serious branding problem!

.

Didn't know anything about it but it was quite obvious too whom he was referring.

[NighthawkNZ]

So are you stating that in fact the generally held view here is incorrect? (that generally held view being that a list of people who had left reputation on Mort's comment, good or bad, in the thread of doom was given to you, and not just the status either but the comment wording also)

According to wikileaks the info was handed out... it was an inside job...

[tigertim20]

I think you've been outed for doing something that most of the members dont agree with, and you dont like it.

Poor show, old man, poor show.



see, personally, I think it would be understandable if he was like 'look, I made a poor call, it was my fault, i fucked up, and Im sorry' but instead its more like

yeah I did it, but I dont give a fuck, im not admitting it, you can get fucked.
what else has he leaked or shared that he shouldnt have?
will he do it again?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Personally, I don't give a fuck who knows what I do, say or rep. I green repped Mort, as I was stirring the pot and it has to be something I'm really anti someone said before I'll use red. This thread is the most oarsomerest one I've read in ages.

I think you'd have to be a lil naive to think things you say/do here will be a big secret!

[bogan]

I think you'd have to be a lil naive to think things you say/do here will be a big secret!

The only secrets on the internet are those buried under so much crap that nobody bothers looking through it all!

Actually, by that logic, kb must still have a few secrets :whistle:

[tigertim20]

Personally, I don't give a fuck who knows what I do, say or rep. I green repped Mort, as I was stirring the pot and it has to be something I'm really anti someone said before I'll use red. This thread is the most oarsomerest one I've read in ages.

I think you'd have to be a lil naive to think things you say/do here will be a big secret!

difference between secret, (nothing on the internet is)
and those areas in which we are told privacy is respected, when in reality it is not.

[Crasherfromwayback]

The only secrets on the internet are those buried under so much crap that nobody bothers looking through it all!

Actually, by that logic, kb must still have a few secrets :whistle:

Hahaha...truuueeee!


difference between secret, (nothing on the internet is)
and those areas in which we are told privacy is respected, when in reality it is not.

I hear ya, but to me, it's not something I worry or care about.

[HenryDorsetCase]

difference between secret, (nothing on the internet is)
and those areas in which we are told privacy is respected, when in reality it is not.

What we have here is a failure of communication easily fixed by renaming "Private" Messages.

The new title is "Well, they're kind of private, except if I dont like you, or someone else doesnt, or youre a paid advertiser, or because, well, fuck you and the horse you rode in on and I'll do what I want and this isnt a democracy anyway and you are naive and stupid if you think anything is or should be private" messages.

not as short and pithy as the former title, but more accurate, no?

Oh yeah, in case anyone is wondering, I am about to green rep Winston001's original post with the comment "See what you started you bastard"

anybody wants to PM me about that, feel free.

[Quasievil]

next time you crash test your own gear, can you do us all a favour and crash a little harder?:bye:

I think you should apologies for this frankly, I cant believe that you wish a biker to crash and thereby depart the scene
is your inference that you wish me to die on the road?

[tigertim20]

I think you should apologies for this frankly, I cant believe that you wish a biker to crash and thereby depart the scene
is your inference that you wish me to die on the road?

my inference is that maybe it will slap enough sense into you that you no longer run to sugar daddy and ask your MaTe to hack into shit that should otherwise be private, so you can send emails and pms and what not.

and after all the times you abuse poeple on here, call them cocks, of cunts or wankers and all that, why the hell should I apologise to ya?

Maybe sugar daddy needs to put you down for a nap, little one is getting grumpy:violin:

[tigertim20]

Hahaha...truuueeee!



I hear ya, but to me, it's not something I worry or care about.

fair enough, it isnt something that will bother everyone.
I'd have no issue if it was a matter of 'nothing on this site is private' - that would be sweet. What I take issue with, is being placed under the distinct impression that there are particular areas that are private, only to find out that certain members can have their friends in high places, access that information so that they can send out private messages possibly defaming people.

Its largely a matter of clarity. and integrity.

[Quasievil]

my inference is that maybe it will slap enough sense into you that you no longer run to sugar daddy and ask your MaTe to hack into shit that should otherwise be private, so you can send emails and pms and what not.

and after all the times you abuse poeple on here, call them cocks, of cunts or wankers and all that, why the hell should I apologise to ya?

Maybe sugar daddy needs to put you down for a nap, little one is getting grumpy:violin:

Who is this Suga Daddy you refer to ?
what hacking ?

ok dont apologies thats fine im a big boy, if wishing a fellow rider to die in a bike crash is the way you play then thats your issue, I feel sorry for you and the hate you have inside.

[Mort]

If anyone owes apologies - it's you.

[tigertim20]

Who is this Suga Daddy you refer to ?
what hacking ?

ok dont apologies thats fine im a big boy, if wishing a fellow rider to die in a bike crash is the way you play then thats your issue, I feel sorry for you and the hate you have inside.

two people owe apologies.
You, for starting shitfights and so on EVERY time a gear thread comes up

and your friend who obviously provided you with information he shouldnt have. This isnt playschool, people can read between the lines and figure out exactly whats gone on here.

When both of those apologies take place, I will review my comments and act/apologise as I see fit.

and no, I cleared up your question, I didnt wish you death, I wished it would bang some bloody sense into you.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Its largely a matter of clarity. and integrity.

Yeah I guess. Just gotta accept they can play however they like at their place!

[HenryDorsetCase]

Yeah I guess. Just gotta accept they can play however they like at their place!

Indded, and now that knowledge is more "public". Sunlight is the best disinfectant etc.

now bored with this topic (I have a notoriously short attention span). Wanna see boobies, and kittens. not necessarily in that order.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Indded, and now that knowledge is more "public". Sunlight is the best disinfectant etc.

now bored with this topic (I have a notoriously short attention span). Wanna see boobies, and kittens. not necessarily in that order.

I'm gonna go home and fetch my gorgeous old CR I just sold on TM and send it to it's new owner! It's heading to Norjo Motorcycles. :bye::crybaby:

[Usarka]

now bored with this topic (I have a notoriously short attention span). Wanna see boobies, and kittens. not necessarily in that order.

http://www.lolpix.com/_pics/Funny_Pictures_58/Funny_Pictures_588.jpg

[Quasievil]

youre right Mort I owe you an apology, for this

1/ I apologise that your first set of leathers where late (includng the icelandic volcano I apologies for that to and the long flight disruptions)

2/ I apologies it took you many months to tell us the suit wasnt fitting you right (6 WHOLE months all other retailers would have told you to fuck off right there)

3/ I apologies that we offered to make you a second suit with the agreement from you that you would pay $800 towards it

4/ I apologies that we charged your credit card on the 9th Feb

5/ I apologies that you reveresed that $800 charge on the 6th of April even tho your suit was here and we had the DHL number to prove it

6/ I apologies that you took us to court for the value of the first suit

7/ I apologies that you lost that claim in court

8/ I apologies that I agreed to let you have the second suit and fore go the $800

9/ I apologies that you liked the second suit and you closed the case

10/ I apologies that now your ASB bank are chasing you for the $800

11/ I apologies that you decided to load all this shit on KB

12/ I apologies that you are taking us back to court for the $800 that you agreed to pay us in the first place for

and lastly

13/ I apologies for the fact im going to see a lawyer tomorrow regarding another scenario all together against you.

:yes:

[tigertim20]

Indded, and now that knowledge is more "public". Sunlight is the best disinfectant etc.

now bored with this topic (I have a notoriously short attention span). Wanna see boobies, and kittens. not necessarily in that order.

mmm, boobies and kittens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9upTLWRZTfw

[Ronin]

youre right Mort I owe you an apology, for this

1/ I apologise that your first set of leathers where late (includng the icelandic volcano I apologies for that to and the long flight disruptions)

2/ I apologies it took you many months to tell us the suit wasnt fitting you right (6 WHOLE months all other retailers would have told you to fuck off right there)

3/ I apologies that we offered to make you a second suit with the agreement from you that you would pay $800 towards it

4/ I apologies that we charged your credit card on the 9th Feb

5/ I apologies that you reveresed that $800 charge on the 6th of April even tho your suit was here and we had the DHL number to prove it

6/ I apologies that you took us to court for the value of the first suit

7/ I apologies that you lost that claim in court

8/ I apologies that I agreed to let you have the second suit and fore go the $800

9/ I apologies that you liked the second suit and you closed the case

10/ I apologies that now your ASB bank are chasing you for the $800

11/ I apologies that you decided to load all this shit on KB

12/ I apologies that you are taking us back to court for the $800 that you agreed to pay us in the first place for

and lastly

13/ I apologies for the fact im going to see a lawyer tomorrow regarding another scenario all together against you.

:yes:


How the hell do number 8 and 12 go together? You agreed to forego the $800 but he wants it back?

And no, I'm not taking sides at all, just trying to make sense of it all.

I would say thought that as a business owner myself, I would be twice fucked sideways before I would get into an argument like this in public.

[Ronin]

mmm, boobies and kittens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9upTLWRZTfw

I have been dying of the man plague this week and I think you have found the cure.

[HenryDorsetCase]

http://www.lolpix.com/_pics/funny_pictures_58/funny_pictures_588.jpg

win! Win wiwnnwnwnwnwnwnwn

[HenryDorsetCase]

mmm, boobies and kittens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9upTLWRZTfw

that might be one of the best videos I've ever seen.

[Quasievil]

How the hell do number 8 and 12 go together? You agreed to forego the $800 but he wants it back?



You tell me ? thats what I have been asking.
I understand now however (told me some facts today), we charged his card (as you do) he reversed it and told us about it, we complained to the bank about it as the suit was here, and finally a few months later the bank contact him saying he has to pay it.

re argument on here, wasn't my choosing but Ive had enough, little antagonistic prompts well there are the facts people can make there own mind up.

[Maha]

Whats this thread about again?..:corn:

[tigertim20]

re argument on here, wasn't my choosing but Ive had enough, .

Whoah, are you saying you dont start arguments on here?
LOL!!!

[onearmedbandit]

I had difficulty reading all the <s>apologise's</s> apologies.

[Geeen]

I'm not going to post in this thread

























:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: :facepalm:

[Latte]

I'm not going to post in this thread


But but, oh :(

[blackdog]

I'm not going to post in this thread

Posting's fine, just don't rep anyone!

[hayd3n]

site down quasi??

[Quasievil]

site down quasi??

Nope all going nicely dude.
new gear due in a couple of weeks, new styles etc, cant wait:woohoo:

[Stirts]

now bored with this topic (I have a notoriously short attention span). Wanna see boobies, and kittens. not necessarily in that order.

What you mean? this thread is full of tits and pussies!! :dodge:

[imdying]

<img src="http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a331/mizz33/ibtl1bush2.jpg" />

:D

[Parlane]

:D


Replace "Lock" with "censoring". And Fixed.