Clubmans for beginners

[ital916]

Hey guys n girls!

So, i've decided to give racing a go and have been told (in the general bike ravings section) that I can enter my gs1200ss in the clubmans class. I had a look at the auckland motorcycle club clubmans section but am still wondering if someone could explain to me whether my bike would be alright to begin with in that class (would it go into the open class?) and what I would need to get started. How does the race licence system work? etc.

Any advice would be much appreciated. I have also been told it is better to sell the gs and get a pro twin or f3 650. What do you guys think?

Cheers! :scooter:

[White trash]

Buy something with some cornering clearance, quick! GS1200 Esses are slow, heavy,and shit. As soon as you look at a fast turn at a racetrack, you'll wonder why the fuck you bothered. Chop it in on a nice GSXR1100 or something, you will thank me later,

[RobGassit]

Hey guys n girls!

So, i've decided to give racing a go and have been told (in the general bike ravings section) that I can enter my gs1200ss in the clubmans class. I had a look at the auckland motorcycle club clubmans section but am still wondering if someone could explain to me whether my bike would be alright to begin with in that class (would it go into the open class?) and what I would need to get started. How does the race licence system work? etc.

Any advice would be much appreciated. I have also been told it is better to sell the gs and get a pro twin or f3 650. What do you guys think?

Cheers! :scooter:

The GS will put you hospital before you can have any fun. Keep it for the road and buy something F3 ish for playin on. Club membership is reqd for a licence. Join a bike club and they will steer you to MNZ for a licence.. You could try a day license to wet your whistle. Pay your money and away you go. Welcome to the best fun you can have with out having to tell her you'll respect her in the morning.

[Gremlin]

There's also the Hyosung Cup, a 250cc class being run this year by AMCC, could be worth investigating, as it's supposed to be a source of cheap racing.

[steveyb]

Pretty much what they said.
The unfortunate side of going 'racing' on bikes like yours is that fundamentally you end up having an expensive trackday, not a raceday.

Clubmans is the place to start, and you can start on any bike you please, but a bike that is track oriented rather than road oriented will give you a better outcome.

www.vicclub.co.nz has some how to get started tips.

You need proper track oriented riding gear and you can (if AMCC offer them, I don't know if they do or not as clubs are not required to do so) buy a day licence, but you must be a club member to get any licence, day or otherwise.

A couple of AMCC ART days or even California Superbike School levels prior would also help you out.

If you have a couple of bucks, why not get a Streetstock or Pro-lite bike? An RG150/KR150 is not so dear these days and you can learn heaps in a short period of time and then move on. Or even cough, cough, a bucket bike and race that for a little while.

[Sarah311]

The GS will put you hospital before you can have any fun. Keep it for the road and buy something F3 ish for playin on. Club membership is reqd for a licence. Join a bike club and they will steer you to MNZ for a licence.. You could try a day license to wet your whistle. Pay your money and away you go. Welcome to the best fun you can have with out having to tell her you'll respect her in the morning.

I can read.... lol :facepalm:

[RobGassit]

I can read.... lol :facepalm:

246343 D'oh!

[quickbuck]

As said, get a Street Stock, or better yet, a Pro-Lite.
They will teach you how to corner properly.
You won't be flying at the corner at 250k wondering if you should brake yet... then braking too early anyway.....
I am a little biased, and would say get a Ninja 250, but in saying that, you could always ask "Billy" on here if he still has the Hyosung for sale.

Don't put the GS on the track, seriously! As said, it will be an expensive Track Day, and no racing really, as every other bike will be in a different class (either more race orientated, more powerful, less powerfull etc etc....), with no measurable results.

[quickbuck]

Hey guys n girls!


Any advice would be much appreciated. I have also been told it is better to sell the gs .....
Cheers! :scooter:
Well, it looks like you have listened to us a bit....
Nice.

[jasonu]

Mate, go Bucket Raceing. Learn your racecraft and make your 'beginner' cockups at speeds less likely to kill you or others around you and move on from there (unles you get the Bucket bug and choose to stay as many others have).
You can get an FXR150 ready to race for under $1500. The entry fees are cheap and there are lots of meetings. You won't get a better bang for your buck in anyother class.

[gixerracer]

Mate, go Bucket Raceing. Learn your racecraft and make your 'beginner' cockups at speeds less likely to kill you or others around you and move on from there (unles you get the Bucket bug and choose to stay as many others have).
You can get an FXR150 ready to race for under $1500. The entry fees are cheap and there are lots of meetings. You won't get a better bang for your buck in anyother class.

Buy my 200hp superbike man that thing is the most fun you will ever have. Seriously
:shutup:

[jasonu]

Buy my 200hp superbike man that thing is the most fun you will ever have. Seriously
:shutup:

Can't argue with that one but hardly a good beginner racer bike.
What class did you cut your (racing) teeth in???

[nodrog]

...What class did you cut your (racing) teeth in???

Demolition derby,

[gixerracer]

Can't argue with that one but hardly a good beginner racer bike.
What class did you cut your (racing) teeth in???

Junior MX then senior MX went bucket racing at maybe 17 years old then started road racing in 250 proddie where all men learned to ride back in the day

[scracha]

Buy my 200hp superbike man that thing is the most fun you will ever have. Seriously
:shutup:

Does it come with wets :innocent:

[quickbuck]

Mate, go Bucket Raceing. Learn your racecraft and make your 'beginner' cockups at speeds less likely to kill you or others around you and move on from there (unles you get the Bucket bug and choose to stay as many others have).
You can get an FXR150 ready to race for under $1500. The entry fees are cheap and there are lots of meetings. You won't get a better bang for your buck in anyother class.

Must say I did bucket race when it was literally at my door step.....
In fact one Easter I did see a driver and a swinger of a chair crash because they hit my door step!!!
Fun times, but after a while, I realised it was for fast kids (Karl Morgan, I think was his name), and gave up, as I wasn't a fast kid....... Or a fast SNCO who weighed 55kg....

So I waited until I was pushed (or realised I could ride as well as the young guys on the team I was part of), and hence I race a Ninja 250 when I am the other side of 40.....
So, give racing a go, no matter the class.... But playing on the big tracks is where it is at. At least there is a constant to measure improvements, as opposed to a circuit that changes week to week.......
In saying that, I guess bucket racing isn't like that anymore (It has been 18 years).

[richban]

In saying that, I guess bucket racing isn't like that anymore (It has been 18 years).

More people are now calling it F4 and F5. The bar has been lifted and the racing is hardcore. If you want to learn how to get comfortable racing hard with people on your wheel give it a go. F4 teaches you to think fast, corner fast and race hard. Give it a crack.

[Kickaha]

More people are now calling it F4 and F5
Only cause they're a bunch of poofters embarrassed about the name Buckets

The bar has been lifted and the racing is hardcore.It has always been hardcore the only thing that has lifted is the speed

Buy my 200hp superbike man that thing is the most fun you will ever have. Seriously:shutup:
Most fun? you need to try a sidecar, cept you wouldn't be man enough

[gixerracer]

Only cause they're a bunch of poofters embarrassed about the name Buckets
It has always been hardcore the only thing that has lifted is the speed

Most fun? you need to try a sidecar, cept you wouldn't be man enough

Im neither a girl or a poof so I will never go on a sidecar

[quickbuck]

More people are now calling it F4 and F5. The bar has been lifted and the racing is hardcore. If you want to learn how to get comfortable racing hard with people on your wheel give it a go. F4 teaches you to think fast, corner fast and race hard. Give it a crack.

Ummm, my dislocated AC joint says no.
Would rather race on real tracks arounf the country there Rich....
I want to keep the 50 pretty much standard for the mopedathons.
You can't say our last race wasn't close ;)

[richban]

You can't say our last race wasn't close ;)

To true. I must say I am itching to start F3. Yeah the big tracks are great. Its all fecken great. Off to get my lotto ticket now.

[crazy man]

To true. I must say I am itching to start F3. Yeah the big tracks are great. Its all fecken great. Off to get my lotto ticket now.you dont need a lotto ticket to race f3

[richban]

you dont need a lotto ticket to race f3

True. Just need an engine for my Honda RS250. Should have it sorted buy xmas.

[crazy man]

True. Just need an engine for my Honda RS250. Should have it sorted buy xmas.a four cylinder v8 should do it lol l think its the best class out there that you can make somthing a bit differnt apart from buckets

[steveyb]

my Honda RS250.

Shit where did you get that??????? Those things are like rocking horse shit and cost moonbeams. Lucky bastard.........