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Conquiztador
6th September 2011, 02:00
She is a 1965 version. And as such I realise that she would not be the choise of many of you on here.

But here is the point: As long as I keep the papers current she will stay as a 1965 bike. Nowhere is there a rule that says that I can not upgrade the motor...and then later some of the other bits. I mean, have you had to change the papers if you upgrade the frame, the shocks or the forks???

nzspokes
6th September 2011, 06:11
How old does it have to be for cheap rego?

Voltaire
6th September 2011, 08:25
Sounds like " My Grandfathers Axe".....my Father changed the head and I replaced the handle....but its Granddads axe.

Cheap rego is on a 40 year roll over.
Starting to get into an era of electric start and disc brakes. However the prices are going up on these too....

My 72 Commando is registered as a 68 :whistle: and is about $130.00 a year.
Parts a quite reasonable, and easy to work on. and I get mine locally.
Driving a 1970 VW Beetle lately and its cheap rego too about the same as the bike..... and cheap to run, easy to fix, parts available locally.
I'm slowly getting off the consumer roundabout....... now where is my Nokia 5110...:innocent:

Edbear
6th September 2011, 09:44
Interesting question! There were several specialist frame builders around years ago, like Dunstall, Rickman, etc. Replacing shocks and forks is commonplace as well.

cheshirecat
6th September 2011, 10:04
Yeah I found I could upgrade the frame on an elderly CB750 K1 to one of the newer VFR 750 94 alloy beam ones, then of course the original engine fell apart so oddly enough a VFR750 engine fitted right in. Quelle surprise! What with a new red fairing and upgraded forks, brakes, mono suspension. etc Still a CB750 at heart though - somewhere.

Edbear
6th September 2011, 10:17
Grandpa's axe is vastly improved these days, what with modern steels and the best hickory handles...

Pixie
8th September 2011, 11:23
She is a 1965 version. And as such I realise that she would not be the choise of many of you on here.

But here is the point: As long as I keep the papers current she will stay as a 1965 bike. Nowhere is there a rule that says that I can not upgrade the motor...and then later some of the other bits. I mean, have you had to change the papers if you upgrade the frame, the shocks or the forks???

What ees thees reego you speak of?:shifty:

tigertim20
8th September 2011, 11:50
She is a 1965 version. And as such I realise that she would not be the choise of many of you on here.

But here is the point: As long as I keep the papers current she will stay as a 1965 bike. Nowhere is there a rule that says that I can not upgrade the motor...and then later some of the other bits. I mean, have you had to change the papers if you upgrade the frame, the shocks or the forks???

thats a seriously good question. Youd need to be carefull with frames though, as you might find yourself in the illegal 'rebirthing' area if you do it wrong. and later engines will likely require certs, and with that, upgraded suspension/brakes to cope with any increase in power, which is of course, more certs. Might work out to be entirely more trouble than its worth to skirt the rego stuff.

Just go buy a late model 600 and stay under the larger bracket!:woohoo:

Voltaire
8th September 2011, 13:04
Grandpa's axe is vastly improved these days, what with modern steels and the best hickory handles...


your not talking Bunnings or Mitre 10 then.....
I was after a new handle for Dads old axe but it was cheaper to buy a new axe....Bet Grandpa is looking down on me with disgust:innocent:

ukusa
8th September 2011, 13:33
Cheap rego is on a 40 year roll over.
Starting to get into an era of electric start and disc brakes. However the prices are going up on these too....

Don't get me wrong, it's a good thing the vintage rego, helps keep some of the great (and not so great) cars & bikes on the road. But i've always wondered why is it cheaper? I presume that because ACC is the greatest portion of the fee, that it is the ACC levy that is reduced. Seems strange because as I see it the older vehicles are surely more dangerous on the roads (poorer brakes, suspension, handling etc etc).
Is it just that they realise the vintage bikes/cars won't be doing as many kms on our roads, so in theory less chance of an accident?

tigertim20
8th September 2011, 13:49
Don't get me wrong, it's a good thing the vintage rego, helps keep some of the great (and not so great) cars & bikes on the road. But i've always wondered why is it cheaper? I presume that because ACC is the greatest portion of the fee, that it is the ACC levy that is reduced. Seems strange because as I see it the older vehicles are surely more dangerous on the roads (poorer brakes, suspension, handling etc etc).
Is it just that they realise the vintage bikes/cars won't be doing as many kms on our roads, so in theory less chance of an accident?

stop this sensible nonsense at once!
I think ACC were syaing their stats were based on a per KM travelled basis anyway - or I could be making that up in my own head.

Look at the rego increases, based on engine size, and the (naieve) idea that higher cc means faster. by that notion, theyve remained consistent, e.g. most vintages arentgoing to be as fast as newer bikes (few exceptions maybe, black shodow perhaps?)

I find it funny though, at the otherwise lack of consistency.
Rego is done by CC rating
and confirmed incoming changes for learner bikes state that learner legal bikes will be approved on a power to weight basis.
hmmm?

imdying
8th September 2011, 14:26
thats a seriously good question. Youd need to be carefull with frames though, as you might find yourself in the illegal 'rebirthing' area if you do it wrong. and later engines will likely require certs, and with that, upgraded suspension/brakes to cope with any increase in power, which is of course, more certs. Might work out to be entirely more trouble than its worth to skirt the rego stuff.It's all just one cert. You pay once (same price no matter how many or how few modifications there are), and that covers all of your modifications. However, future modifications (that require certification) means that you have to recertify the entire vehicle (that same price again).

tigertim20
8th September 2011, 14:49
It's all just one cert. You pay once (same price no matter how many or how few modifications there are), and that covers all of your modifications. However, future modifications (that require certification) means that you have to recertify the entire vehicle (that same price again).

if you do it all oat once, yes, it goes on the one plate, but if you do themat different times, its a different story.

Voltaire
8th September 2011, 20:14
Don't get me wrong, it's a good thing the vintage rego, helps keep some of the great (and not so great) cars & bikes on the road. But i've always wondered why is it cheaper? I presume that because ACC is the greatest portion of the fee, that it is the ACC levy that is reduced. Seems strange because as I see it the older vehicles are surely more dangerous on the roads (poorer brakes, suspension, handling etc etc).
Is it just that they realise the vintage bikes/cars won't be doing as many kms on our roads, so in theory less chance of an accident?

Yeah..true to a point..and the 40 year old car I have taken to driving around in has a smaller engine than your bike....:gob:
I don't think old vehicles are more dangerous but demand a different riding/driving style/ability, you have to pay attention. I doubt a lot of modern car drivers could drive a rear engined, swing axle, manual car with no choke and no power steering. Drivers/riders are the cause of accidents not the vehicles.....
In my yoof I had a Z1000, it was the most powerful bike I ever had and that was 25 years ago....I feel safer on my 72 Norton with 1/2 the power...and its more fun.
I see cheap reg as a small victory over the system....:yes:
...and they are greener as the carbon footprint is from 40 years ago...:facepalm: