Roys Hill, 10-11 September, CANCELLED

[NSR143]

Hi All,

Very sorry but this weekend at Roys Hill, Hastings has been cancelled.

A local complaint to Council has made this venue unavailable this weekend.

The complaint relates to noise in relation to motorcycles.

Motorcycles are not covered in the permitted activities at the track.

Hopefully we can resolve this quickly and get back to racing.

The Kart Club is working with us to help resolve the issues.

Please remain calm and take the opportunity to spend time with friends and family during these stressful and traumatic times.


Steve Bennett

MiniRoadRace Coordinator
Pacific Motorcycle Club

[Kickaha]

Motorcycles are not covered in the permitted activities at the track.


That's the same reason we can't use the Kart track at Carrs road on Christchurch and because the local residents are arseholes

[stivernz]

Noooooo I was looking forward to racing again Sunday. Has been 2 1/2 months since twisting the wrist.

[Kendog]

Are the bikes really much louder than the Karts?

[blackdog]

Wankers...

[onegoodrun]

argh SHIT!! We were gonna bring up the sidecars for a demo!!

[hmurphy]

(An email I have sent off regarding Roys Hill being cancelled)

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This is very disappointing news as myself and a mate were getting all
geared up and ready to head up north from Wellington. I think that the
complaint by a neighbor is very, very poor standard of judgement
considering the bikes use a noise radar in every round and do their
best to keep everyone happy. On top of this, racing at Roys Hill only
happens once a month and is very popular. So because this one neighbor
decides that 8 or 9 hours a month of background noise is unbearable,
around 30 people (not including spectators) have to miss out on an
excellent sporting and social event.

I would like this neighbor to have a chance at reading messages like
this because I somehow think they don't understand the reality of the
situation. We are not deliberately trying to disturb the peace and I
think there are better ways of dealing with this kind of situation
than asking for racing for people across the North Island to be
cancelled. If the neighbors are unhappy with the noise then they
should confirm for themselves that the rules are being broken before
placing a complaint.

Bottom line, if bikes are adhering to the noise regulations, which we
ARE, then there should be no issue.

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I don't understand how rules can be followed carefully yet all it takes is 1 person to decide they are above the rules THEY AGREED UPON by the council.

[Str8 Jacket]

I think the issue is that the bikes are not permitted under the current regulations.... Thus creating the 'loophole' that has occurred re their complaint ending the ability to use the track....

[hmurphy]

Yeah which is a joke. I would be very surprised if this rule wasn't changed to allow bikes there considering how successful the race meetings for bikes at Roys Hill are. They are very well run with a high level of regard to the neighbors opinions re noise. It's very disappointing that the neighbors consider this kind of action as fair.

[Kickaha]

Yeah which is a joke. I would be very surprised if this rule wasn't changed to allow bikes there considering how successful the race meetings for bikes at Roys Hill are. They are very well run with a high level of regard to the neighbors opinions re noise. It's very disappointing that the neighbors consider this kind of action as fair.

It isn't a joke, if motorcycles aren't permitted under the "conditions of use" then apart from getting those conditions of use changed there's nothing you can do about it

It isn't necessarily "neighbours" it only needs one person to complain

Someone needs to check the 'conditions of use" and see how hard it is to get them changed or if it is possible to change them

I suspect the person/persons complaining would put in a submission against any change

[NordieBoy]

A local complaint some years ago got rollerblading kicked off the Nelson kart track for the same reason...

[Bald Eagle]

A local complaint some years ago got rollerblading kicked off the Nelson kart track for the same reason...

Damn those roller blades must be noisy as.:facepalm:

[hmurphy]

Nah I'm not accusing anyone who organizes buckets, I'm just shocked that it hasn't been noticed how well bikes go off at Roys Hill. So I think it's very strange that a meeting like this would be canceled. I'm sure the kart club makes a little bit of money off the bikes and we appreciate what we have so it's definitely surprising. It would make a lot more sense if the club was making no money off the bikes, but even then the club is getting a lot of publicity off these events.

I'm sure they are just following 'rules' but so were/are the bikes. I would like to think that bikes get covered in the permitted activities very soon. If I was an outsider looking in I would be impressed at the turn out and impressed that there aren't dipshits tearing up the carpark or vandalizing the club.

I suspected it was a neighbor because it's a local complaint. It seems the most likely but it could have been someone else, sure. Either way unless there has been some serious misbehavior in relation to the race meetings for bikes, I'm surprised a complaint was made.

[gav]

I think the neighbour would be happier if there was no racing at all including karts. Similiar story down at Levels (Timaru) even though its next to an air strip the number of race meets that can be run is limited due to complaints. The fact the track was there before they decided to build in the area somehow seems irrelevant. :facepalm:
Really hope you get a positive outcome regarding Roys Hill, but having seen what has happened elsewhere it seems very unlikely. To get bikes added for use, would need a public consent and if some say no, you have very little chance of getting it approved.

[koba]

I watch with interest.

I'm another out-of towner willing to write a letter or take other action as appropriate.
Just met me know where/when I can be of any help.

[Dutchee]

And there's a bunch of Auckanders willing to help out as well.

Look at Western Springs Speedway - they're now limited to how many events they run a year, but they're still going (admittedly haven't been for a couple of years as never realise it's on until too late).

Too tired to type much more (thank god), but will post some of the complaints we've heard over the years from various people. It ain't all good.

Steve and co, do yell out if we can help in any way, otherwise we'll not do anything as would not like to stuff things up for you. We love Roy's Hill and hope we'll be back there in December for the NI round.

[Shorty_925]

Taupo has a similar problem, the house across the road from the corner that leads onto the long straight/drag strip.

Im testing(for noise to complete a RC) at the proposed new mx track which is about 500m-1km away from where the kart track this saturday morning. They need atleast 40 mx bikes there to do the test and I'll get some much need practice in, so should be interesting to hear the outcome of that.

[Pumba]

The RMA is actually a good document but when it is used like this it is royal Bitch.

Hmurphy all the points you make are valid but irealivant at the end of the day. There are really only two options, follow the rules as set out in the district plan or get the rules changed. The latter takes time money and resources



Look at Western Springs Speedway - they're now limited to how many events they run a year, but they're still going

Western springs will move. One way or another the Council will make it happen. Just remember the name Colin Dale Park.

[all4A50s]

What a bummer. Believe it or not similar sort of stuff has gone on about Wgtn airport and the times planes can fly and the noise level from drinking establishments noise levels after people brought non-sound proofed apartments. Don't get me wrong I'm all for people's right to enjoy where they live but I would have thought such noise "issues" would be covered by buyer beware and they should be given a verbal kick up the daisy and sent off with a free pair of air muffs.

[all4A50s]

Hi All,

Very sorry but this weekend at Roys Hill, Hastings has been cancelled.

A local complaint to Council has made this venue unavailable this weekend.

The complaint relates to noise in relation to motorcycles.

Motorcycles are not covered in the permitted activities at the track.

Hopefully we can resolve this quickly and get back to racing.

The Kart Club is working with us to help resolve the issues.

Please remain calm and take the opportunity to spend time with friends and family during these stressful and traumatic times.


Steve Bennett

MiniRoadRace Coordinator
Pacific Motorcycle Club

Pity you couldn't find out where they live and put a dog turd in a flaming bag on their door step and ring the door bell.

[Kickaha]

Pity you couldn't find out where they live and put a dog turd in a flaming bag on their door step and ring the door bell.

Yeah because that would really get them on side

[grantnz]

Taupo has a similar problem, the house across the road from the corner that leads onto the long straight/drag strip.

Im testing(for noise to complete a RC) at the proposed new mx track which is about 500m-1km away from where the kart track this saturday morning. They need atleast 40 mx bikes there to do the test and I'll get some much need practice in, so should be interesting to hear the outcome of that.

Good luck with that. Made some enquiries and if it is the person my informant suspects, he could be a whinging immigrant with bags of money who would delight in stuffing things up for us. I am told he has, or has had motorcycles and hot cars himself, but was kicked out a local club ( not ours ) for shit stirring and whinging and moaning and being a general pain in the arse. Export these people I say, especially when it is our country, not theirs.

[GirrlRacer]

somemone should lend this person a bucket .... aslong as its not Koba's EN 125:facepalm::yes:

[koba]

somemone should lend this person a bucket .... aslong as its not Koba's EN 125:facepalm::yes:

Hey! what are you trying to say! :innocent:

[Henk]

Hey! what are you trying to say! :innocent:At a guess (my interpretation) she is trying to say "we should lend the complainer a bucket, so that he/she sees how much fun we're having and maybe he/she might withdraw the complaint and we can all go on as normal. But if we lend the complainer Koba's EN125, we've got shit show in hell of that being accomplished".

This is only my interpretation, Girrlracer may have meant something else entirely.:love: (Michelle)

[koba]

At a guess (my interpretation) she is trying to say "we should lend the complainer a bucket, so that he/she sees how much fun we're having and maybe he/she might withdraw the complaint and we can all go on as normal. But if we lend the complainer Koba's EN125, we've got shit show in hell of that being accomplished".

This is only my interpretation, Girrlracer may have meant something else entirely.:love: (Michelle)

It's a good approach if you want to hurt them though...

[Henk]

Good luck with that. Made some enquiries and if it is the person my informant suspects, he could be a whinging immigrant with bags of money who would delight in stuffing things up for us. I am told he has, or has had motorcycles and hot cars himself, but was kicked out a local club ( not ours ) for shit stirring and whinging and moaning and being a general pain in the arse. Export these people I say, especially when it is our country, not theirs.
Do we have to pay for exporting them? Or is it totally unlike deporting?
A 10c bullet would be cheaper if we have to pay, but if they're paying to get rid of themselves, it's all good.
Michelle (Henk will reply to your PM tomorrow, he's busy reading tonight)

[Henk]

It's a good approach if you want to hurt them though...
Read post above lol

[quallman1234]

so that he/she sees how much fun we're having and maybe he/she might withdraw the complaint and we can all go on as normal.


Is it too late, now that the people in power have been made aware that motorcycles are not part of the terms of usage of the circuit.

This needs to looked into at all Bucket tracks in nz. And hopefully changed. Could really screw us all up.

[NSR143]

Thanks for all the support, lets hope justice, common sense and a fair play see us back at the track real soon. The kart club is fully supportive of our events and as has been mentioned are keen for the extra revenue our meeting create.

At the very least we can apply (or so I understand) for a one off event for the December meeting to cover the last North Island round.

[GirrlRacer]

Hey! what are you trying to say! :innocent: Basicly what Henk/Michelle said :yes:


At a guess (my interpretation) she is trying to say "we should lend the complainer a bucket, so that he/she sees how much fun we're having and maybe he/she might withdraw the complaint and we can all go on as normal. But if we lend the complainer Koba's EN125, we've got shit show in hell of that being accomplished".

This is only my interpretation, Girrlracer may have meant something else entirely.:love: (Michelle) Exactly what I was getting at!!! :innocent:

[grantnz]

Okay, simmer down, what is happening this weekend is the Kart North Island Champs. Maybe we should send a discreet posse out to have a listen from various points to see just where the noise could be a problem? Maybe someone could take the club sound recording device and do a few sneaky checks to compare with the recordings we took a few months back.
Karts are on from Friday through to Sunday, so if anyone was able to go out, record the distance from the track and opinion on noise level etc... Might be of some use in the future?

[RDjase]

Okay, simmer down, what is happening this weekend is the Kart North Island Champs. Maybe we should send a discreet posse out to have a listen from various points to see just where the noise could be a problem? Maybe someone could take the club sound recording device and do a few sneaky checks to compare with the recordings we took a few months back.
Karts are on from Friday through to Sunday, so if anyone was able to go out, record the distance from the track and opinion on noise level etc... Might be of some use in the future?

http://www.jaycar.co.nz/productView.asp?ID=QM1599&keywords=data&form=KEYWORD

One of these left somewhere for the days racing would be good