What are some recommended dual sports for the beginner rider? [Archive]

Matariki

20th September 2011, 05:19

I'm interested in purchasing a dual sport and I was wondering which ones are worth looking at. I'm on my learners, so anything 250cc or under is ideal. Height wise I'm 5 foot 8 and don't have the longest of legs. The type of riding I intend to do is around town during the week, over the hills to wellington and off road riding once and while (probably in the week-end). So far I've looked at the Honda NXR, but I want to broaden my horizon with other choices that are available.

Also, is there anything I should avoid?

blackdog

20th September 2011, 06:14

Someone just advertised a VERY low mileage DR200 on here, it's a really good deal.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/142148-2003-DR200-SE-Advenure-bike?p=1130155760#post1130155760

pete-blen

20th September 2011, 06:41

I like mine.. other than the hard seat...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-406395450.htm

DR650gary

20th September 2011, 08:09

Almost all the 250's in the Dual Sport section on Trademe will do you for a start. Keep your budget low, in case the sport doesn't grab you, and try to ride them at highway speed.

The thing you will have to decide is where to compromise. The lower cc bikes will do ok in the rough stuff but be a hard slog on the road. If you plan to trailer the bike there and back then look in the Dirt section as well as road registered is not required then.

We bought a DR200 as a learner dualsport bike for my wife and it was fine, she just didn't take to the sport. My son now rides it as a commuter as he has his two FZ1's under modification and it just copes with him on the road. My wife is 50kgs and my son 90kgs and that is approaching the limit ofr most 200 cc bikes in the rough and on the road.

So if you weigh more than 85 kgs, go for the largest motor/hp rating your license will allow so you can ride comfortably on the open road.

Keep it cheap and you can on sell for little loss if you don't take up the sport.

Cheers

clint640

20th September 2011, 08:16

That DR200 would be a really good pick for commuting & learning offroad. Once you start travelling further you may want something bigger to keep up with traffic but the importance of a light bike for learning offroad can not be underestimated.

If you decide you need a little more power for the highway then look at the Yamaha XT250 (2008+) & the Kawasaki Super Sherpa KL250. Other bikes along similar lines are the old Yamaha XT225(250) & the Honda CRF230 (not many around that are road legal though)

Cheers
Clint

dino3310

21st September 2011, 21:05

'5 foot 8 and don't have the longest of legs'
i know a couple of KTM riders on here like that :laugh: but then theve got a lot of down time on the bigger bikes.
something like Suzi girls DR200 could be a goer, was on a ride with it last year and i was impressed, its a beaut little bike.
would advise getting as many test rides as possible to find what suits you before committing $$$
just make sure those salesman dont talk you into something your not 100% on.
and dont forget pictures & report on your first ride on it:2thumbsup
Good Luck

bigfish

22nd September 2011, 06:37

My Dad at 77 has just bought a new XT 250 after deciding his FZ6 was to heavy for him now.He got lowering links put in and stand cut down.He is finding it great and is back on the metal roads again.

White trash

22nd September 2011, 07:52

XT250 is a great choice I reckon. Nice, low seat height. Grunty enough to do the odd wheelie (DAMHIK) and will travel at open road speeds.

Brakes and suspension is a little weak for real off road stuff but fine for gravel use. Good fun little bike to skid around on.

nic

22nd September 2011, 16:33

+1 for the XT250

I'm having a lot of fun with mine.

also Honda are bringing back the XR250 for 2012.

dino3310

22nd September 2011, 16:57

+1 for the XT250

I'm having a lot of fun with mine.

also Honda are bringing back the XR250 for 2012.

the XRR or XRL the R's r pretty tall

NordieBoy

23rd September 2011, 06:57

also Honda are bringing back the XR250 for 2012.

They stopped?

thommo77

23rd September 2011, 08:53

I'd suggest the XT250 too, with your height.
I really enjoy my KLX250, but I'm 6' and wouldn't want to be any shorter with the seat height.

thommo77

23rd September 2011, 08:57

By the way, the local Yammy dealer here has a brand new one here at a clear-out price of $6500 with 2 year warranty. Normal retail = $7500.

warewolf

23rd September 2011, 20:27

There's also the Honda SL230, which is often said to be the best of the DR200SE/XR200B/XT225 bunch.

You should be orright on any of the JDM (Japanese domestic model) road-adventure variants of the 250 trail bikes: Honda Baja (XR), Suzuki Djebel (DR), Yamaha Raid (TT-R) and Kawasaki ??? (KLX/KLR). They are set up more for road work with bigger tanks, bigger lights, racks, lower seat heights, more comfort but softer performance & chassis in general.

Matariki

24th September 2011, 18:31

Any opinions on the Suzuki TS 185?

dino3310

24th September 2011, 18:43

Any opinions on the Suzuki TS 185?

not sure on the highway legs, another 2smoke option would be the DT175 or DT230 i know they perform really well

JATZ

24th September 2011, 18:48

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-408734245.htm

:yes:

pete-blen

24th September 2011, 18:58

not sure on the highway legs, another 2smoke option would be the DT175 or DT230 i know they perform really well

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-391869403.htm

MXNUT

24th September 2011, 19:25

Any opinions on the Suzuki TS 185?

I had a TS185, pretty old and basic 1980`s technology now though.

If you were considering a 2 stroke the only model that i would look at is the DT230.

2 strokes as road or adventure bikes do seem to require more maintenance when compared to their 4 stroke counterparts.

dino3310

24th September 2011, 19:42

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-391869403.htm

modern with parts available http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-409946120.htm

MXNUT

24th September 2011, 19:55

modern with parts available http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-409946120.htm

When you say modern you mean it was sold new in 2005.

The basic design of the bike has not really changed since about 1979 apart from the addition of an aluminuim swing arm and a front disc brakes.

DT175H was probably the best bike i ever owned.:love:

Mind you there is rose tinted glasses and all that.

NordieBoy

24th September 2011, 20:08

You can buy a 2011 TS185 and race it in Classic MX.
:scooter:

warewolf

24th September 2011, 20:34

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-408734245.htm

:yes:Nice one, good price. It wasn't there earlier when I wrote.

Matariki

25th September 2011, 15:44

There's this bike

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-409753169.htm

clint640

26th September 2011, 07:41

There's this bike

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-409753169.htm

I would only get that if you have good mechanical skills to maintain & repair it. At that sort of mileage a $$$$ engine rebuild may soon be needed, not to mention all the other worn out bits n bobs it's likely to require.

The SL230 in Jatz's link would be my pick too.

Cheers
Clint

Matariki

26th September 2011, 12:20

I would only get that if you have good mechanical skills to maintain & repair it. At that sort of mileage a $$$$ engine rebuild may soon be needed, not to mention all the other worn out bits n bobs it's likely to require.

The SL230 in Jatz's link would be my pick too.

Cheers
Clint

Thanks for the heads up :yes:

DR650gary

26th September 2011, 16:38

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-395344006.htm

There ya go. $70 flight to Christchurch and get to know your bike on the way back, rest your arse on the ferry and home in time for dinner.

I looked at one of these for my wife early in the year but we settled on the DR200 as it was a second bike so speed was not an issue, and it sits lower as she is only 5 ft tall. I thought it didn't have enough punch for a regular on the road ride.

Cheers

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-408702677.htm

Closer but you better be quick.

NordieBoy

26th September 2011, 17:04

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-408702677.htm

Closer but you better be quick.

That's a good deal.

pete-blen

26th September 2011, 18:08

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-408702677.htm[/url]

Closer but you better be quick.

Would have jumped on if it was around a few months back...
never any good buys when i'm looking..:angry:

dino3310

26th September 2011, 18:27

always the case mate. when ya got the $$$ the bikes not there and when its there ya got No $$$:blink:

Matariki

26th September 2011, 18:40

Hmm... looks like I'm going to have to do the right thing and save up some more dough.

It would make more sense to get a bike that costed a grand more and was a relativity new model or older model with low mileage than to get one with the budget I have now. Saving money while watching bikes come and go is torture. :facepalm:

Matariki

26th September 2011, 18:42

I'm actually saving up for this bike (if I get it):

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-350358650.htm

But I'm keeping an eye out for other bikes that are similar with lower prices.

Matariki

27th September 2011, 21:39

List of Bikes I'm looking at (that are currently within budget of $2000)

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/auction-407999849.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/auction-410147878.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-409543233.htm

(Hopefully the camo can be stripped off)
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-408630618.htm

(Hopefully speedos aren't expensive)
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-397618319.htm

pete-blen

27th September 2011, 21:57

Matariki

28th September 2011, 01:38

Err... I'm not really familiar with the south so I have no idea on the costs involved of going to see the bike, and if I like it, ship it back over to the north. I would prefer to buy something more local. Preferably wellington region, but who rides dual sports here, yet alone sells them?

Matariki

28th September 2011, 01:44

I quite like this little bike, I don't know what you guys think of it though;

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-409543233.htm

pete-blen

28th September 2011, 05:52

MXNUT

28th September 2011, 05:58

Some of the trade me links you have listed show CTX 200 farm bikes.
Keep in mind that 15000 kms on a farm bike equates to about the same amount of wear and tear as 45000 - 60000 normal kms. ( farm bikes spend most of their time in the lower gears at speds below 20 kmh but with high engine hours ).

Also with the NXR125 you would very quickly get annoyed by its inability to keep up with other traffic when outside of 50 km/h zones.

Bikes that have been de - registered or are not currently registered will cost you way more than your budget to make road worthy again by the time you take them through compliance.

clint640

28th September 2011, 07:14

Also with the NXR125 you would very quickly get annoyed by its inability to keep up with other traffic when outside of 50 km/h zones.

Bikes that have been de - registered or are not currently registered will cost you way more than your budget to make road worthy again by the time you take them through compliance.

Yep, I don't know much about the TS185's, but given that one is road legal, fairly new, low km's & doesn't look like it's been trashed on a farm, it would be the pick of your bunch. From my dim memory of hooning around the paddock on the neighbours one when I was 14, the 185 would have adequate power for the road if it was geared right, certainly much more than an NXR125

One thing to note about the 2-strokes, they do use more fuel & will be more buzzy on the road, but that would only really be a concern if you're doing a long commute every day.

Cheers
Clint

Matariki

28th September 2011, 19:20

Well, I've found something thats local (just down the road) which I'm going to check out in person, scroll down the page and you'll see its the 2002 HONDA XR200. :yes:

Its this listing here; http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/auction-410993794.htm

Waihou Thumper

28th September 2011, 19:23

Matariki

28th September 2011, 19:40

you sure it is a Honda? The owner is having you on....:) Looks like a KLX250 for sure...

According to the ad he's selling two bikes, I'm not sure why he didn't make two separate listings but he has photos of both of them in the ad.

warewolf

28th September 2011, 21:37

Yep, I don't know much about the TS185's, but given that one is road legal, fairly new, low km's & doesn't look like it's been trashed on a farm, it would be the pick of your bunch. From my dim memory of hooning around the paddock on the neighbours one when I was 14, the 185 would have adequate power for the road if it was geared right, certainly much more than an NXR125A bit more power, but they're pretty asthmatic and will only cruise at about 90km/h. IIRC Willdat? managed 85km/h max from his NXR. Even my DR200 would cruise on 115km/h quite happily, so any 4t (or 2t I suppose) 200+ would be my pick.

According to the ad he's selling two bikes, I'm not sure why he didn't make two separate listings but he has photos of both of them in the ad.Too cheap to pay for two ads!! So, what else has he skimped on?

MXNUT

28th September 2011, 21:54

Too cheap to pay for two ads!! So, what else has he skimped on?

And he says just needs indicators so can get wof and be registered, which suggests to me it has not been recently registered which would mean going through the compliance costs and hassle.

Matariki

28th September 2011, 21:54

Too cheap to pay for two ads!! So, what else has he skimped on?

I hope they weren't rebuilt or anything like that with Chinese parts... :facepalm:

Matariki

28th September 2011, 21:54

And he says just needs indicators so can get wof and be registered, which suggests to me it has not been recently registered which would mean going through the compliance costs and hassle.

Hmm... so I take it thats its not worth it?

MXNUT

28th September 2011, 22:05

Hmm... so I take it thats its not worth it?

$300 + dollars for the compliance + new registraition costs of about $400 -$450.00
that is assuming that the compliance centre does not require you to do any repairs on the bike 1st to pass the inspection.

Ender EnZed

28th September 2011, 23:06

I quite like this little bike, I don't know what you guys think of it though;

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-409543233.htm

It looks like a pretty good option. I'd expect it to keep up with traffic alright and it looks tidy.

Well, I've found something thats local (just down the road) which I'm going to check out in person, scroll down the page and you'll see its the 2002 HONDA XR200. :yes:

Its this listing here; http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/auction-410993794.htm

You'd be lucky to get that on the road for less than $2500 and it probably wouldn't be worth that once you did. By all means go have a look though, if you do like it then it could be worth doing some research to work out exactly what it would take.

A bit more power, but they're pretty asthmatic and will only cruise at about 90km/h. IIRC Willdat? managed 85km/h max from his NXR. Even my DR200 would cruise on 115km/h quite happily, so any 4t (or 2t I suppose) 200+ would be my pick.

85km/h sounds very low. I've heard plenty of reports of ~115 being managed on an NXR.

Matariki

29th September 2011, 12:27

It looks like a pretty good option. I'd expect it to keep up with traffic alright and it looks tidy.

Thats what I was thinking, its within my budget and I only expect to use the bike for a short term (at least a year or so) mainly for getting around town, going out to a local fishing spot or two and using on the farm. At the moment I just need something for basic transport and its within my price range ready to go. My only concern though is the size of the tank, it looks a tad small. Still, it looks worth while and it can do the job

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hubb/attachments/which-bike/3851d1284199329-need-advice-small-bike-rural-sheep_bike_aussie.jpg

Here's the same bike, so It looks like it can be upgraded or modified (looks pretty good here)

http://www.humanitariansuppliers.org/HS/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/0d9646a1bdd00de04f2aede134e46253.jpg

Ender EnZed

29th September 2011, 12:54

Thats what I was thinking, its within my budget and I only expect to use the bike for a short term (at least a year or so) mainly for getting around town, going out to a local fishing spot or two and using on the farm. At the moment I just need something for basic transport and its within my price range ready to go. My only concern though is the size of the tank, it looks a tad small. Still, it looks worth while and it can do the job.

It'd probably be great for that. The standard tank is only 7L but that'll still take you 150km on a tank without getting nervous, maybe 180 if you're brave. Apparently a 13L tank from the TF will fit without much effort. Have a read of this (http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hubb/suzuki-tech/ts185er-ultimate-long-distance-weapon-8377) if you haven't already.

Matariki

29th September 2011, 13:02

It'd probably be great for that. The standard tank is only 7L but that'll still take you 150km on a tank without getting nervous, maybe 180 if you're brave. Apparently a 13L tank from the TF will fit without much effort. Have a read of this (http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hubb/suzuki-tech/ts185er-ultimate-long-distance-weapon-8377) if you haven't already.

I'm going to ask the seller if there are any problems or anything with it, if not then I'll purchase.

Matariki

1st October 2011, 12:22

I'm going to ask the seller if there are any problems or anything with it, if not then I'll purchase.

Damn, he had already sold it to someone else... :facepalm:

blackdog

1st October 2011, 12:35

Damn, he had already sold it to someone else... :facepalm:

Bugger. That was the best option you've had so far.

Back to the drawing board.

Matariki

1st October 2011, 14:25

Bugger. That was the best option you've had so far.

Back to the drawing board.

I still have the Honda NXR on mind, so all is not lost.

blackdog

1st October 2011, 14:32

I still have the Honda NXR on mind, so all is not lost.

I see you have Quasi and Foxzee on yer friends list, if you need someone to have a look at a bike with you neither of them will put ya crook;)

Willdat?

1st October 2011, 16:45

85km/h sounds very low. I've heard plenty of reports of ~115 being managed on an NXR.

My XLR 21/18" wheel version of the NXR (19/17") managed 85km/h (on GPS) with the stock 14 tooth front. Changed to a 12 tooth front and managed a genuine 100 km/h with chin on tank. Yes I know that doesn't sound right but the bike simply didn't have the torque to pull through with the standard too tall gearing.

115 on an NXR might be what the speedo says...or maybe downhill, with the clutch pulled in + tuck :facepalm:

Matariki

6th October 2011, 21:10

I've found these two, I've contacted the seller about them

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/auction-413232926.htm

ADVGD

7th October 2011, 07:38

I've found these two, I've contacted the seller about them

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/auction-413232926.htm

Also, is there anything I should avoid?

You will thank yourself if you don't go any lower than 250cc, as reliable and capable as that NXR may be it will be so sluggish and slow it'll be disappointing to ride. Even a 250cc is frustrating in some situations due to lack of power but its a hell of a lot better than a 125, if I was to go back to a learner license the only 250cc bike I'd buy would be a WR250R

Transalper

7th October 2011, 08:07

.... I was to go back to a learner license the only 250cc bike I'd buy would be a WR250R
I'd like one of those to replace the DR650 in my garage which is sitting next to the Transalp BUT it's all about the money now days and WR250R's aren't cheap ! :crybaby:

I'm sure the NXR125 will be fine for a cheap starter so long as you don't want to hit the highway for anything more than a couple of minutes. They are quite low and light I think. WR comes with power and seat height, though that can be dealt with as per Rosie's thread.

Watch for rust on farm bikes, the animal shit makes it happen fast so I hear.
I'm also not sure how well a NXR125 will keep up with the traffic while climbing the hill from Masterton to Wellington but then I don't have personal experience with one other than a little flat riverbed bash.

NordieBoy

7th October 2011, 12:09

if I was to go back to a learner license the only 250cc bike I'd buy would be a WR250R

Back?

I'd go for one now!

ADVGD

7th October 2011, 14:45

I'd go for one now!

To be perfectly honest, a while back I made my mind up I wanted a WR250R, I rang Trevor Peirce to jack up one for a demo ride, I went in expecting to ride out a new owner of it but I didn't, I wasn't completely sold on the bike. I am impressed with nearly every aspect of the WR250R but the main reason I didn't buy it was lack of bottom end power. When ridden high in the rev range it is surprisingly well handling and powerful machine for 250cc, a seriously fun bike to ride, but down low there is very little and the choice between the DRZ400E and the WR250R resulted in the DRZ winning

If a learner license limited me to a 250cc though I'd buy the WR250R in a flash

NordieBoy

7th October 2011, 15:52

but down low there is very little

That's OK. I thought the DRZ400 had very little down low too :D

Matariki

7th October 2011, 19:32

Yikes! The WR is an expensive bike and way beyond my budget. I've got $3000 spend at tops. :no:

Being a student sucks, but at the moment I'm looking for something that will get me on the road and that I can confidently ride on gravel and sand. I only intend to use it as a temporary bike. Probably until I get my full license.

Ok, so I've got the message - Avoid Farm Bikes.

Transalper

7th October 2011, 22:44

I wouldn't say stay away from farm bikes but do have a good look out for rust and any other signs that they may have had too much of a hard and weathered life.

I'd tend to go for a 200cc or 250cc machine.
Even a 200 will probably be a world of difference over the 125 on a hill or highway.
Something like the Honda XLR200 here (http://www.motorcycletrader.co.nz/View/Used/HONDA-XLR200-R-1996/40304.aspx?N=4294967263+4294964623+0) for $2500. Has REG on hold and no WOF. The least they should have done is get a new WOF to make it more saleable.
Others may be worth looking at might be the XR250 (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-411342924.htm)

Not too much about that doesn't look worn out for under $3k online at this time it seems.

warewolf

8th October 2011, 20:03

I am impressed with nearly every aspect of the WR250R but the main reason I didn't buy it was lack of bottom end power. When ridden high in the rev range it is surprisingly well handling and powerful machine for 250cc, a seriously fun bike to ride, but down low there is very littleYou can't really have both from a small capacity machine. However being the new hotness on the road/trail scene, the WR-R probably does have more bottom end than a lot of 250s. It might feel asthmatic compared to the top end, but it's hard to really compare standalone. And besides, there's no reason not to rev them and use the gearbox.

Even a 200 will probably be a world of difference over the 125 on a hill or highway.Yep, a 200 has 60% more cubes than a 125. Will's XLR125 runs out of puff in Hira - my DR200 never did.

Something like the Honda XLR200 here (http://www.motorcycletrader.co.nz/View/Used/HONDA-XLR200-R-1996/40304.aspx?N=4294967263+4294964623+0) for $2500. Has REG on hold and no WOF. The least they should have done is get a new WOF to make it more saleable.Yeah, in one breath they're saying "roadworthy" yet they say "as is where is" which I understand is legalese for "this thing is not roadworthy - caveat emptor". One or t'other, never both.

Not too much about that doesn't look worn out for under $3k online at this time it seems.That's usually the way. A while ago I struggled to find anything under $5K that was ride away, looking at 225-450ish road legal. Lots of mutton dressed up as lamb.

LAMS should improve things when it removes the learner demand for 250cc.

DR650gary

9th October 2011, 08:20

We may have (we, as in the family :shifty: ) may have a 2008 DR200 for sale soon for very close to the $3k mark.

If you are interested, send me a PM or email and I will speak with my son. He is Wellington based.

I bought the DR for my wife to get into adventure riding, but she didn't take to it but liked riding the bike as an alternative to her Cagiva. My son then bought it as a commuter while he was doing up his FZ1's. His current girlfriend has indicated she wants to learn to ride, but they all say that at the start don't they?:innocent:

Anyway, drop me a note if the $3k mark is doable.

Transalper

9th October 2011, 08:55

DR200 would be perfect IMO.

DR650gary

9th October 2011, 16:36

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/142885-Yamaha-DT230-for-sale

Matariki

11th October 2011, 18:04

Any opinions on the Hyosung dual sport models?

Ender EnZed

11th October 2011, 18:31

Any opinions on the Hyosung dual sport models?

They're very rare. Anything's worth having a look at if you get the chance but I wouldn't expect the quality to be as high as their road bikes.

Matariki

11th October 2011, 18:32

Here's a Hyosung Dual Sport

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-413888678.htm

Padmei

11th October 2011, 18:53

I asked the same question a long time ago re the hyosung. Apparently they are nothing like the road ones - ie not that good - from what I've heard only tho...

Ender EnZed

11th October 2011, 18:59

Here's a Hyosung Dual Sport

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-413888678.htm

Yeah I saw that, it is the only one though. Unless you count this (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/auction-412541640.htm) as well.

Hyosung may well have a crack at building an Adventure bike for Western markets in the future but those two above just look like cheap Chinese-esque replicas of something not much good. As far as I'm aware, Hyosung dealers don't stock any dirt bikes. Ask one why not, I'm sure there's a good reason.

pete-blen

11th October 2011, 19:07

Yeah I saw that, it is the only one though. Unless you count this (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/auction-412541640.htm) as well.

Hyosung may well have a crack at building an Adventure bike for Western markets in the future but those two above just look like cheap Chinese-esque replicas of something not much good. As far as I'm aware, Hyosung dealers don't stock any dirt bikes. Ask one why not, I'm sure there's a good reason.

its a Shinray.... rebranded... The 200 version is only $2500 new

Ender EnZed

13th October 2011, 20:28

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-415183256.htm

This could be well worth a look.

GPS MAN

14th October 2011, 18:13

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-415183256.htm

This could be well worth a look.

That would make a pretty good choice..in my opinion:whocares:

Matariki

14th October 2011, 18:51

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-415183256.htm

This could be well worth a look.

Yep, I've contacted the seller.

ADVGD

14th October 2011, 21:26

Yep, I've contacted the seller.

If you can stretch your budget, seriously GO FOR THIS (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/142885-Yamaha-DT230-for-sale). Bloody great bike at a bloody good price, as good a bike as the XR is that DT has basically twice the horsepower and will run circles round the XR. I can almost guarantee you'll get sick of the low power output from the old technology 200cc four stroke, the 2 stroke DT with 39HP will give you some nice fist fulls of power and be a truck load more fun to ride.

Ender EnZed

15th October 2011, 06:33

If you can stretch your budget, seriously GO FOR THIS (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/142885-Yamaha-DT230-for-sale). Bloody great bike at a bloody good price, as good a bike as the XR is that DT has basically twice the horsepower and will run circles round the XR. I can almost guarantee you'll get sick of the low power output from the old technology 200cc four stroke, the 2 stroke DT with 39HP will give you some nice fist fulls of power and be a truck load more fun to ride.

That one's looking rather sold. DT230s are great bikes but that was the first one I've seen for sale in about a year, so don't hold your breath for the next one.

Matariki

16th October 2011, 17:59

The DT230 was way out of my budget. I'm looking at several other options such as this one; http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dirt-bikes/auction-415570074.htm

I'm still happy with the concept of a 125cc bike because its main purpose will be for getting around the farm, on the beach and traveling to town. A bigger bike can be bought later once I have the budget to afford it and the experience and confidence to handle it.

DR650gary

17th October 2011, 08:01

DR650gary

17th October 2011, 14:06

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-415474073.htm

This is a good bike and is currently farm registered by the looks of it.

Too dear but you can practice your negotiating skills.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-395344006.htm

These are very good and I am sure you would have fun riding it back. Build the cost of a $60 flight and ferry into your offer and I am sure it would be yours.

Transalper

17th October 2011, 14:18

Don't waste your time and/or money on a bike that is not road registered. There are plenty about that are already reg with a current wof.

Cheers
Where?? Please feel free to start pointing them out.
Got to be $3k or less for the budget too remember.

Agree though, I would feel a lot happier seeing the WOF at least already on a bike before the advert was placed.

Edit:: shoot, didn't see the second post with examples sorry.

DR650gary

17th October 2011, 15:00

Where?? Please feel free to start pointing them out.
Got to be $3k or less for the budget too remember.

Agree though, I would feel a lot happier seeing the WOF at least already on a bike before the advert was placed.

Edit:: shoot, didn't see the second post with examples sorry.

And

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-415413077.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-413658405.htm

Just for the southern men.

Matariki

18th October 2011, 16:38

There's this bike too thats still for sale

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=415706227

DR650gary

18th October 2011, 17:25

There's this bike too thats still for sale

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=415706227

Up to you, you wanna be riding or fixing? Plus you need to re vin and that can be a pain in the arse. I have done it and you need all the papers in place.

Mate spend a little more and get a road ready bike.

Cheers

Matariki

18th October 2011, 17:48

Up to you, you wanna be riding or fixing? Plus you need to re vin and that can be a pain in the arse. I have done it and you need all the papers in place.

Mate spend a little more and get a road ready bike.

Cheers

Well, I've texted him and this was his responses to the questions given:

So the bike can be re-registed for the road? What about the wiring, can the brake lights and number plate be reinstalled?

Easy, all the wires there. Brake light I have with the number plate holder but I don't have the numberplate itself. You'll need to change the tires to road tires as I have it set up with offroad tries. I think they warrant mud grip tires for road use.

When was it last registered/serviced? Any rust? What are the dimensions e.g. height, weight etc.? Any modifications been done on it?

Service done partly by me, as I am a mechanic by trade.
*He also noted that he will get back to me with more information once he had finished work*

MXNUT

18th October 2011, 18:49

Well, I've texted him and this was his responses to the questions given:

So the bike can be re-registed for the road? What about the wiring, can the brake lights and number plate be reinstalled?

Easy, all the wires there. Brake light I have with the number plate holder but I don't have the numberplate itself. You'll need to change the tires to road tires as I have it set up with offroad tries. I think they warrant mud grip tires for road use.

When was it last registered/serviced? Any rust? What are the dimensions e.g. height, weight etc.? Any modifications been done on it?

Service done partly by me, as I am a mechanic by trade.
*He also noted that he will get back to me with more information once he had finished work*

Some good advice to remember, an MR2A ( Inital registraition form ) only lasts for 2 years. So if any bike does not have a current MR2A it is either expensive / difficult or impossible to get one .

You should be looking only at bikes that are already registered or have their regos on hold. Many of us have been down this track before and know that is not worth the hassle.

Matariki

18th October 2011, 19:00

Some good advice to remember, an MR2A ( Inital registraition form ) only lasts for 2 years. So if any bike does not have a current MR2A it is either expensive / difficult or impossible to get one .

You should be looking only at bikes that are already registered or have their regos on hold. Many of us have been down this track before and know that is not worth the hassle.

Cheers for that. :mellow:
Right, another lesson learnt (only look for bikes that are registered).

DR650gary

20th October 2011, 08:45

Cheers for that. :mellow:
Right, another lesson learnt (only look for bikes that are registered).

Was this no good to you?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-415183256.htm

2 tyres, pay the reg and you're off. Not worth $2100 but negotiate a bit :shifty:

Matariki

20th October 2011, 17:59

Was this no good to you?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-415183256.htm

2 tyres, pay the reg and you're off. Not worth $2100 but negotiate a bit :shifty:

I couldn't get in contact with the guy, I texted him and emailed him but nothing. <_<

DR650gary

20th October 2011, 18:24

I couldn't get in contact with the guy, I texted him and emailed him but nothing. <_<

Don't give up. He's in your neck of the woods isn't he?

Ender EnZed

20th October 2011, 19:27

I couldn't get in contact with the guy, I texted him and emailed him but nothing. <_<

Try an actual phone call if you're serious about having a look at it.

DR650gary

20th October 2011, 20:40

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-395344006.htm

This is a great buy for your budget and I am sure a local rider will check it out for you and there is often a vehicle coming North.

Tempted myself but practicing the "need and want" thing.

Cheers

dino3310

20th October 2011, 21:07

or this one, either way there both fab lil bikes http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-416358461.htm

Matariki

20th October 2011, 21:40

I've got my fingers crossed for this one - http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=415474073

However I'm in the process of saving up for it.

dino3310

20th October 2011, 21:51

nice :corn:

Matariki

22nd October 2011, 16:29

Ah well, I didn't get the Honda SL, so I'm eying up for this one at the moment - http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=411561597

I'm actually quite impressed by these little bikes (NXR 125), this one has low mileage, its within my price range and its ready to go on the road. I'm confident that it will do the job (getting me around the Wairarapa and Wellington). I also really like the sizing of the fuel tanks on these little bikes. Sure I may look like an idiot for a couple of years based on the fact that I'm not on a 250cc, but I only intend to use this bike until I get my full license and a proper income (student life sucks).

Matariki

25th October 2011, 23:36

Was this no good to you?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-415183256.htm

2 tyres, pay the reg and you're off. Not worth $2100 but negotiate a bit :shifty:

Yes, I finally managed to get in contact with the guy, I'm arranging to see the bike probably this weekend. How much do you reckon I could get for it? :shifty:

DR650gary

26th October 2011, 06:42

How much do you reckon I could get for it? :shifty:

"For it " or it for?

It is worth what you are prepared to pay and what he will settle for.

Probably a bit under $2k as you have to reg and buy tyres and whatever other bits are broken or missing.

Matariki

26th October 2011, 10:29

chasio

26th October 2011, 11:54

"For it " or it for?

It is worth what you are prepared to pay and what he will settle for.

Probably a bit under $2k as you have to reg and buy tyres and whatever other bits are broken or missing.

Speaking of which (and maybe it's my eyes), I can't see any indicators on it. Maybe the seller has them ready to refit, but I'd check before going out to see it. It would add to the aggro and cost of road registration if you need to sort them yourself. HTH.

Ender EnZed

26th October 2011, 13:21

Speaking of which (and maybe it's my eyes), I can't see any indicators on it. Maybe the seller has them ready to refit, but I'd check before going out to see it. It would add to the aggro and cost of road registration if you need to sort them yourself. HTH.

Good point.

Yes, I finally managed to get in contact with the guy, I'm arranging to see the bike probably this weekend. How much do you reckon I could get for it? :shifty:

Offer $2k on the condition that he gets it a wof before you pick it up.

DR650gary

26th October 2011, 13:52

Good point.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-415505438.htm

FFS stop phaffing around and go and get one. If you don't like it, sell it and get another. It won't be your last bike, unless you take as long to get your full license as you do deciding stuff.

Ender EnZed

26th October 2011, 14:06

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-415505438.htm

FFS stop phaffing around and go and get one. If you don't like it, sell it and get another. It won't be your last bike, unless you take as long to get your full license as you do deciding stuff.

You may have just replied to the wrong person. May have, otherwise I'm confused.

Matariki

26th October 2011, 15:38

DR650gary

26th October 2011, 16:36

A lifan? I'll pass thanks... :blink:

Really? Less reliable than an almost 20 year old bike that has had it's nuts wrung off by every learner that thought he could score chicks by doing wheelies? And maybe they were right :facepalm:

Are you wearing Italian shoes or Chinese knockoffs? Any of your clothing Prada? A cheap bike is just that. Doesn't really matter where it's made. Buy cheap, sell cheap.

That may offend the purists but you're not exactly rolling in coin are you so buy what your budget allows. I know what I'd rather have for the few months until my brain kicked in and I went and got a big boys bike.

See ya on the road, although maybe not at this rate.

Cheers

JATZ

26th October 2011, 18:07

Really? Less reliable than an almost 20 year old bike that has had it's nuts wrung off by every learner that thought he could score chicks by doing wheelies? And maybe they were right :facepalm:

Are you wearing Italian shoes or Chinese knockoffs? Any of your clothing Prada? A cheap bike is just that. Doesn't really matter where it's made. Buy cheap, sell cheap.

That may offend the purists but you're not exactly rolling in coin are you so buy what your budget allows. I know what I'd rather have for the few months until my brain kicked in and I went and got a big boys bike.

See ya on the road, although maybe not at this rate.

Cheers

Why don't you tell her what you really think :shutup:

@ Hotkebab, The lifan are a knockoff of the Honda, I think. With normal maintenance it should last long enough for you to get your full licence, and it won't matter if you trash it.
But..... You seem to have your heart set on an NXR, so negotiate with the seller, (who is a dealer). But don't insult him with a stupid offer, they may be quite helpfull with getting the bike road legal.
And hurry up... summer is just about here and you'd rather be riding than looking at bikes on trademe, right ?

DR650gary

26th October 2011, 18:25

You may have just replied to the wrong person. May have, otherwise I'm confused.

Nope, just giving you the points for being observant and spotting the missing bits.

Just giving Hotkebab the hurry up. There is no perfect bike, just a goodie for now :woohoo:

Matariki

26th October 2011, 20:38

The NXR is a back up option just in case.

Now concerning this bike - http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=415183256
Here was the dialogue exchanged;

Me: I noticed on your Trademe listing that your Honda XRB didn't have any indicators. Does the motorcycle come with any?

Him: Yes, I have two. But the orange lenses on them are missing. But you could pick up some new ones from a Honda shop for a couple of bucks each.

Me: Hows the wiring? Do you know when it was last checked? When was the last time a WOF was done? What sort of registration was on the Honda XRB?

Him: The wiring is fine. The indicators worked fine before I took them off. I kept knocking them when I carried tools on the bike so I took them off. The rego was a farm rego which means its legal on the road within 50kms of the farm. So legally it did not required a WOF. I service the bike myself every six months which includes changing oil, cleaning the air filter, tightening brakes or replacing pads, adjusting the clutch and chain tension, lubricating the the bike, testing and changing the spark plug if it needs to, emptying the bowl of the carburetor, cleaning the battery terminals and filling the battery if needed.

Me: Would the bike pass WOF inspection in its current condition?

Him: No, as the indicators are not present and the back tire is worn.

These things should be easy enough to sort out, right? :wait:

JATZ

26th October 2011, 20:54

The NXR is a back up option just in case.

Now concerning this bike -

Me: Would the bike pass WOF inspection in its current condition?

Him: No, as the indicators are not present and the back tire is worn.

These things should be easy enough to sort out, right? :wait:

If it's just the indicators and tyre then....:yes:

Matariki

26th October 2011, 21:21

If it's just the indicators and tyre then....:yes:

I've arranged to check it out next weekend so fingers crossed. :innocent:

chasio

27th October 2011, 11:01

Matariki

27th October 2011, 22:00

It's going to need 4 indicators to get a WOF, so make sure you know what two complete units plus two lenses plus 4 bulbs would cost you... It could easily be more than the tyre. Check the 'good' tyre is DOT approved, as well, or it won't pass. Cheers.

I'll probably get everything fitted by a mechanic as I have no experience behind what is required to get a bike ready for the road. I'll most likely buy new lights and new dual sport tires altogether.

DR650gary

28th October 2011, 07:51

I'll probably get everything fitted by a mechanic as I have no experience behind what is required to get a bike ready for the road. I'll most likely buy new lights and new dual sport tires altogether.

If you have no one able to do that for you, you may need to budget up to $400 for all that. I would keep looking. You would then need to find out the reg costs unless you were able to use it adequately with farm reg on it.

This may be an expensive bike to get back on the road.

ADVGD

28th October 2011, 08:10

Since you started this thread nearly a month and a half ago you have had overwhelming support from numerous people and half a dozen good bikes have come and gone on Trade Me, stop fluffing around like an old woman and buy a bloody bike!

Here is my final advice:

1 - Four proven solid and reliable road/trail bikes are Honda, Suzuki, Kawasaki and Yamaha. By any one of these in reasonable tidy condition and you pretty much can't go wrong

2 - Buy one that is road registered so there is no mucking around or hidden costs, you can buy it, pick it up, then start riding immediately

3 - Paying someone to do maintenance is not the way to go about it, not only does it cost a truckload of money you will bypass the necessity of knowing your bike and how to perform general maintenance and field repairs. For about $50 buy a Clymer manual and start learning general bike maintenance, when following the step by step manual it is a piece of cake, any 10 year old kid could do it

I've seen more fast paced proactive decision making from retired elderly ladies in my Nanas knitting club, just make it happen and get riding!

CrazyFrog

28th October 2011, 08:26

Im with DR650gary on this, if you're paying for a shop mechanic to do the work, at $80 an hour, expect prob 2 hrs labour, including his smoko break.
If you know what you're looking for, you can pick up cheap dual purpose tyres on Trademe, but again, with shipping and fitting, expect another $100 total for a tyre.

The real hassle with the XRB is the farm rego - unless you leave is as a farm rego, highly dodgy and open for scutinisation by the law, as your'e not supposed to use it further than 50km from home, you'll have to upgrade to standard road user rego, $600 a year, plus the WOF for $35.

Please check wheel bearings and headset bearings for any play before you hand over any money, the bearings aren't show stoppers to buy, but fitting will be another 2 hours labour for a shop do do. The WOF man will be hard on these checks.

I hate to say this, but with a new WOF and 6months rego, the Lifan is still a good buy at $1400, because most likely hasn't been floggged for the last 10 years. You dont' have to keep it forever, just get some experience on dualsports, find out what you like and move on up.
The Lifan GY200 Huntaways retail new around $3500, someone else has already taken the devalue hit from new, you'd probably lose $300-400 onselling the Lifan, that's good simple economics if you ask me. Cheap bike hire is how I look at it:yes:

MXNUT

28th October 2011, 12:44

Here is my final advice:

1 - Four proven solid and reliable road/trail bikes are Honda, Suzuki, Kawasaki and Yamaha. By any one of these in reasonable tidy condition and you pretty much can't go wrong

2 - Buy one that is road registered so there is no mucking around or hidden costs, you can buy it, pick it up, then start riding immediately

Couldnt agree more, great advice ...... would be a good idea to follow it.

DR650gary

28th October 2011, 13:26

I've seen more fast paced proactive decision making from retired elderly ladies in my Nanas knitting club, just make it happen and get riding!

Now you're not the sort of guy are you that takes up knitting just to pick up chicks are you? :innocent:

Apart from your lecherous comments :woohoo:, # 1 on the hurry up :yes:

chasio

28th October 2011, 19:10

DR650gary

28th October 2011, 19:19

Economically that could indeed make sense for not-super-challenging use and an owner not really up for greasy fingers. Has anyone on here actually ridden a Lifan?

Yup. Mate got his wife one to do her learners time on. Was the cruiser model but was just as gutless as any other 250 cruiser I have played with. Not really, just an average 250. Nothing startling and the finish was Suzuki ish. Ok, but a bit rough in places.

It lasted the full 18 months she had it with little drama and from memory she sold it for not a lot less than she paid for it.

It's a first bike FFS. Expect it to meet the ground a few times and have the poor clutch and gearbox bashed a bit. That's why I believe newer is better. Less exposure to rough riders :yes:

Matariki

28th October 2011, 22:12

Matariki

28th October 2011, 22:26

Alright I'll stop faffing around and get this bike - http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=411561597

chasio

29th October 2011, 06:58

Don't harass yourself into buying something you don't like, but there is a danger of getting stuck in analysis paralysis. I'd suggest:

1. Ride some road registered bikes that you can afford.
2. Buy one you like riding.
3. Enjoy!

Good luck with your your new bike! :yes:

PS I'd probably get the carrier fitted to the NXR and take the farm gearing home in a box to be fitted when needed for gnarly terrain, if it were me.

DR650gary

29th October 2011, 07:27

Well, its not my first bike. I've owned a GN250 before which I was riding on for almost two years.
I'm not confident with Lifan, I haven't seen many good reviews about Chinese models.

As the man says, don't but a buy for the sake of it. I don't know you or your riding ability, nor have I ever ridden an NXR125, but I have ridden a GN250 and a few 125's. You will probably be disappointed with a 125 after a 250. You may not be but the GN250 has a fair bit of grunt and a bit of low down power at relatively low revs. Most 125's need the revs high to get any punch and if you want to ride on the open road at 100 kph your bike will need some punch.

I am not advocating the purchase of a Lifan or any other bike. I would buy the biggest and best bike my budget allowed.

These are not professional reviews, but Lifan's do have some sort of credibility and whether people admit it or not, most bikes today are manufactured from price sensitive items (cheapest) sourced from countries all over the world, including China.

http://www.gassavers.org/showthread.php?t=4620

http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-365287.html

http://www.motorcyclesurvey.com/reviews/american_lifan/lf200gy-5/

Another idea you could try is to track down your local Ulysses club as they have a few members who sell their motorcycles when they are upgrading their licenses. I doubt they all have Boulevards and Harleys :innocent:

I know you want Dual Sport, but in reality a dual sport bike with road tyres is less of a dual sport bike than a road bike with dual tyres, in my opinion.

chasio

29th October 2011, 09:23

As the man says, don't but a buy for the sake of it. I don't know you or your riding ability, nor have I ever ridden an NXR125, but I have ridden a GN250 and a few 125's. You will probably be disappointed with a 125 after a 250. You may not be but the GN250 has a fair bit of grunt and a bit of low down power at relatively low revs. Most 125's need the revs high to get any punch and if you want to ride on the open road at 100 kph your bike will need some punch.

I am not advocating the purchase of a Lifan or any other bike. I would buy the biggest and best bike my budget allowed.

These are not professional reviews, but Lifan's do have some sort of credibility and whether people admit it or not, most bikes today are manufactured from price sensitive items (cheapest) sourced from countries all over the world, including China.

http://www.gassavers.org/showthread.php?t=4620

http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-365287.html

http://www.motorcyclesurvey.com/reviews/american_lifan/lf200gy-5/

Another idea you could try is to track down your local Ulysses club as they have a few members who sell their motorcycles when they are upgrading their licenses. I doubt they all have Boulevards and Harleys :innocent:

I know you want Dual Sport, but in reality a dual sport bike with road tyres is less of a dual sport bike than a road bike with dual tyres, in my opinion.

True that. If the OP likes GN250's, put some dual porpoise ;) tyres on one of those and go riding! I know Toto got a GN expressly for hitting up the gravel and he told me the GN goes great. For doing tracks and trails etc. a GN would maybe not hack it so well. Lots of DP bikes never go much beyond gravel, though. (ahem...!)

Matariki

29th October 2011, 10:38

Hmm... I think I'll focus then on saving more and going for a dualsport with a bigger engine and road registration like this one - http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=418683117

Ocean1

29th October 2011, 11:59

Hmm... I think I'll focus then on saving more and going for a dualsport with a bigger engine and road registration like this one - http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=418683117

You could do worse.

It's easy to become too focused on each new option that crops up. I suggest you first write down the most important features you need, then just keep an eye on the market for bikes that match that list.

From what you've said you'll use it for it sounds like it needs to be road registered, a trail bike (duelsport), 200cc to 300cc. I'd suggest you avoid anything too heavy, (some of the farm bikes are a bit porky) but appart from that use the suggestions here to add to the list yourself.

With a clear goal and timeframe in mind, if a really good deal comes along while you're saving it'll be a bonus. If possible get a local shop to check out any prospective bikes that match your list, even if it costs a littl more, it's cheaper than buying a lemon.

I suspect you won't have to wait too long.

DR650gary

29th October 2011, 13:24

Hmm... I think I'll focus then on saving more and going for a dualsport with a bigger engine and road registration like this one - http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=418683117

Those are a frighteningly good bike and I would be surprised if there wasn't a bit of negotiation in that one. The extra tyres are worth a bit and you will have the ability to use them both I am sure.

I am sure there will be a local rider with experience happy to go with you to meet this guy part way and make sure the deal is to your liking if you are unsure about the bike bits. You will need a car though to take the extras.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-411814413.htm closer, more money but has been on for a while.

Matariki

29th October 2011, 19:52

You could do worse.

It's easy to become too focused on each new option that crops up. I suggest you first write down the most important features you need, then just keep an eye on the market for bikes that match that list.

From what you've said you'll use it for it sounds like it needs to be road registered, a trail bike (duelsport), 200cc to 300cc. I'd suggest you avoid anything too heavy, (some of the farm bikes are a bit porky) but appart from that use the suggestions here to add to the list yourself.

With a clear goal and timeframe in mind, if a really good deal comes along while you're saving it'll be a bonus. If possible get a local shop to check out any prospective bikes that match your list, even if it costs a littl more, it's cheaper than buying a lemon.

I suspect you won't have to wait too long.

Thanks, that sounds like a brilliant idea. Unfortunately my father had a heart attack so I have to financially support the family, the bike is going to be out of the picture for a while but I'm going to keep saving what I have left for myself.

Purpose for purchasing the bike: Independence, a means to get to work, school etc., go fishing with (especially the last one :innocent:)
Here's my basic goals: 200cc - 250cc Dual Sport, within a budget of $2500 - $3000 (which I'm saving towards), needs to have before July 2012 (for study), needs to be road registered and preferably Japanese.

Bikes I'm considering: Yamaha TTR 250, Honda SL 230, Honda CRF L, Honda XR Tornado 250, Honda XR 250 Baja, Kawasaki Super Sherpa, Kawasaki KMX 200, Kawasaki KLX250, Suzuki Djebel 250, Suzuki DR200SE, Yamaha Serow 250

Matariki

30th October 2011, 22:50

How about this bike guys?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-419653143.htm

pete-blen

30th October 2011, 23:18

How about this bike guys?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-419653143.htm

thats a nice unit... higher km...
and its all girly colours too...:facepalm:

Matariki

31st October 2011, 00:01

thats a nice unit... higher km...
and its all girly colours too...:facepalm:

Well, I am a girl.

And I can always change the colours, I'm no stranger to painting and graphic design like I am to mechanics.
As for the Kms, I'm not too concerned as I only intend on using it to get my full. I've already started bidding on it.

Matariki

13th November 2011, 20:02

Update: I decided not to purchase the Kawasaki KLE 250cc, though I bidded on it, based on its dry weight of 146kg, I found it was too heavy for my preference.

So I've decided to go back to the drawing board. <_<

Budget: $2500 - $3000
Engine preference: 200cc - 250cc
Dry Weight preference: 110kg - 130kg
Seat Height preference: 75cm - 82cm

MUST BE REGISTERED with current WOF.

Examples of motorcycles: Honda NX 250, Yamaha XT250, Suzuki DR200 SE, Honda CRF230L, Yamaha Serow 250, Yamaha Serow 225 WE, Yamaha XT225, Suzuki Djebel 200, Honda SL 230, Yamaha TW200.

Ender EnZed

13th November 2011, 21:40

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-421316556.htm

$3k is a near offer.

Matariki

15th November 2011, 01:00

Here's a bike that I'm keen on purchasing, it has a current WOF, its road registered, its within my budget and its the right height and near enough the to right weight, not to mention it has low KM's.
I'm thinking about purchasing it tomorrow. What do you guys think?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-423615182.htm

NordieBoy

15th November 2011, 06:05

Bulletproof little beastie that.

Can also be raced in classic mx...

Ocean1

15th November 2011, 06:32

Good lord, I had no idea they made them that late...

But yes, it'd do what you need very well.

In Orks, though...

pete-blen

15th November 2011, 06:59

Good we bike..
yer won't kill one of those...
have been made for over 30 years...1971 - 2008
http://www.suzukicycles.org/TS-TC-series/TS185.shtml

NordieBoy

15th November 2011, 09:14

And if you seize it, you can re hone it with some sandpaper on the side of the trail.

Matariki

15th November 2011, 11:51

I plan on purchasing it this evening (or as soon as I hear back from the seller).
I'm going to get it shipped down (any good motorcycle shipping companies around?).
I've heard some great things about the Suzuki TS, and I hear its easy to modify which I'm probably going to have a go at.

pete-blen

15th November 2011, 13:13

I plan on purchasing it this evening (or as soon as I hear back from the seller).
I'm going to get it shipped down (any good motorcycle shipping companies around?).

Biketranz
http://www.biketranz.co.nz/index.php

DR650gary

15th November 2011, 17:20

Have used these guys twice. Highly recommended for the price and the service.

http://www.captaintransporter.co.nz/quote-request/motorcycle

sudman

15th November 2011, 19:29

Captain Transporter is just an agent he gets Palmerston Transport to move all his gear, go direct it's about 20% cheaper.

DR650gary

15th November 2011, 19:34

Captain Transporter is just an agent he gets Palmerston Transport to move all his gear, go direct it's about 20% cheaper.

Good to know :msn-wink:

Thanks.

Matariki

15th November 2011, 21:02

I'm sure you guys will be happy to know (well I'm happy at least) that I have bought the bike. :niceone:
Considering its condition and low KM's, it was bargain waiting to be snatched. Now I'm going to have fun this summer modifying it,

From this

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/8/193470708_full.jpg

To hopefully looking something like this (but thats for a separate thread).

http://p1.bikepics.com/2007%5C03%5C25%5Cbikepics-841537-800.jpg

ADVGD

15th November 2011, 21:22

I'm sure you guys will be happy to know (well I'm happy at least) that I have bought the bike. :niceone:

Nice job, that didn't take long at all :shutup:

Good price for what should be a sound, reliable and fun bike, enjoy :niceone:

Shewolf

16th November 2011, 06:54

tidy bike - noice choice :niceone:

suzieq

16th November 2011, 07:24

+1 for the XT250

I'm having a lot of fun with mine.

also Honda are bringing back the XR250 for 2012.

The XR250 will be a goodie, about time we had more selection of lower cc dual purpose bikes to choose from

suzieq

16th November 2011, 07:28