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Paul in NZ
12th July 2005, 13:28
Good ole Gary! Bravo - I agree completely!

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McCormick criticises 'nasty' Idol judges
12 July 2005
By AMANDA WARREN

Seasoned New Zealand entertainer Gary McCormick has launched a stinging attack on the "ritual humiliation, cruelty and bullying" taking place on New Zealand television screens on Sunday nights.

McCormick's targets were the "nasty" judges of young talent vying for a spot in NZ Idol's second season. The hugely popular show has just finished national auditions that saw thousands of wannabe pop stars line up for the chance to have their singing talent noticed.

It was the harsh criticism meted out to the not-so-talented that sparked McCormick's concern. He claimed the show's producers ensured some of the particularly bad singers made it through the first round so they could be publicly humiliated by judges and filmed for the entertainment of the masses.

But judge Paul Ellis said contestants knew what they were getting into when they walked into the audition room, and the judges were just being honest.

McCormick did not accept that, citing the example of Ellis asking one contestant: "Who told you you could sing?" When told it was the person's mother, Ellis said the woman must be tone deaf.

"(The contestant) was almost in tears. We've had people in tears; we've had others saying f... off. That's not my idea of a family-oriented talent show,," McCormick said.

McCormick believed the show's producers and judges, with the exception of Jackie Clarke, who offered "reasonable" comments, were bullying people who believed the show could help them break into the entertainment industry.

"It's ritual humiliation, cruelty and bullying...I'm sure that some of these people are quite shattered by the process."

The show's judges are unimpressed by McCormick's plea for pleasantries.

Ellis said the Idol format was the same internationally, with viewers and contestants expecting a bit of nastiness from the judges. "What we say in the room is our own opinion and it's an audition process. I've got no regrets for anything I've said in the audition room."

Ellis denied judges manufactured nasty comments in a bid to boost the show's popularity. "I verbalise what comes into my head. I was chosen for the show for my experience and because I do call a spade a spade, I don't mince words," he said.

It was a fact that many people who auditioned were bad singers, but many terrible performers were edited out of the final broadcast, he said. The show's ratings went up this week and he believed most viewers enjoyed the content.

"We're making a TV show here...I just think Gary should take a chill pill," he said.

Lou Girardin
12th July 2005, 16:18
Is reality TV the new Colosseum?

Hitcher
12th July 2005, 16:28
I had a good laugh coming back from Wellington Hospital last night. The Basin Reserve Tui billboard said:

"NZ Idol. A ticket to stardom."

v.ros`
12th July 2005, 16:34
I had a good laugh coming back from Wellington Hospital last night. The Basin Reserve Tui billboard said:

"NZ Idol. A ticket to stardom."


There is also that billboard in Auckland... prolly the best from Tui i reckon...


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Paul in NZ
12th July 2005, 16:55
I had a good laugh coming back from Wellington Hospital last night. The Basin Reserve Tui billboard said:

"NZ Idol. A ticket to stardom."

Hey! Not fair, it's revived the Judges careers...

Skyryder
12th July 2005, 17:13
One of the reasons I do not watch these kind of shows. It's the spinoff from American sitcom where someone is humiliated and this passes as comedy and entertainment.


Skyryder

Quasievil
12th July 2005, 17:19
I wonder if any Kiwibikers tried it on ? that would be a laugh. Anyone wanna own up ?


jimmy speak up son !!:rofl:

James Deuce
12th July 2005, 17:45
Musical talent is actually no such thing. Like anybody who excels at anything, there is a LOT of hard work involved to get to a proficient level. There are actually very few people on the whole planet who couldn't excel at a musical endeavour. There are in reality very few who have to mental attitude to master an instrument, be it voice, strings or woodwind.

Those people we say have a "natural" talent have usually become proficient because they enjoy "practising" so much that it doesn't feel like practice to them. They are usually modest and humble, and fall to pieces at the slightest critcism. They often suffer from performance anxiety.

NZ Idol serves no purpose but to highlight in graphic detail how Pop "stardom" works. "Pop" is about manufacturing a solution to a problem that doesn't exist yet. The comments that the judges on NZ Pop Idol make are the same self-esteem crunching hoops that 99% of successful career musicians, performers, and indeed "stars" have to go through, and 100% of the "failures" have to go through to have anything to do with the "Music Industry".

The comment about the Mother being tone deaf was just unnecessary, and Paul Ellis has revealed himself as exactly the type of heartless bastard who does a good job of making money for media companies. I know how my wife and son would feel if someone did that to them, irrespective of whether Paul Ellis was right or not.

750Y
12th July 2005, 21:11
I was in hysterics at some of the contestant's. some funny shit. especially the guy in manukau who was 'touching himself' as Jackie Clarke put it. but top marks for having a go. Personally I'd love to hear Paul Ellis sing...
I have a question tho, Is Francis Stephens the brother of John(Noiseworks/INXS etc..)?

James Deuce
12th July 2005, 22:17
I have a question tho, Is Francis Stephens the brother of John(Noiseworks/INXS etc..)?
Yesssssssss (Yes is too short)