Pre-pay pumps

[awa355]

Do they piss you off? One local sv stn in Te Awamutu seems to be on pre pay throughout the day. All were on PPay after 7pm, except, where the attendant knows me, he will usually unlock the pump and leave me to fill however much I need.

On a bike, when I dont always know how much it will take to fill up ( and most riders top up when filling) it niggles me.

I can understand where the sv stn owner is coming from, but I object to being assumed to be a criminal, when I aint.

I cant think of any other service industies that require you to pre pay.

[cynna]

yeah they piss me off as i want to fill up - i just avoid the ones that are prepaid and go to the ones that arent

[nzspokes]

I go to pay at pump. easy.

[hellokitty]

I go to the same gas station, car or motorbike, I don't even take my helmet off when I fill up - they know me by sight. I hate the fact that some gas stations expect you to know how much gas you want to put it the bike! I find it impossible to guess, and I have to trickle it anyway....

[Maha]

Never had a problem with them, they always switch them over for some reason, I must look honest.:innocent:

[admenk]

and I have to trickle it anyway....

Yeah, that's what happens when you get older :innocent:

[Latte]

It's more of a pain in the car as the pre pay only goes up to $99. Blardy annoying.

[p.dath]

My local Mobil station has been a pre-pay for ages. I've been going there maybe 5 years. Usually a nod of the head was enough as they recognised me. Sometimes I left my credit card with them.

About 3 months ago they said they weren't allowed to do that any more. I had to pre-pay a specific amount of money. The guy knew me well, as he had seen me come in many many times. I told him I wasn't prepared to buy my petrol that way. He said his hands were tied.

I take the view that they don't have to sell me anything they don't want to, and I don't have to buy anything I don't want to. A sale only happens when both parties agree on the terms.


So now I buy my petrol at the BP near by. Problem solved.

[steve_t]

Most of the places around the tron are "pumps must be authorised" these days instead of prepay. Back in the day of prepay I used to tell them that I didn't know how much I wanted and they'd get me to leave my AA or flybuys card or whatever at the counter while I filled. I guess it's not hard to have someone else's card but that always seemed to be OK.

I had someone tell me the other day that they had $200 available on their card. The went to New World petrol or Pak 'n' Save petrol and put $60 in their car. They then went shopping and tried to buy something else for $100 but the card was declined. Apparently, when you swipe at the pump, they electronicly earmark $150 (cos that's the max fill) for 24 hours. I thought it was a bit stupid at first but I guess if that's the way it has to work...

[Indiana_Jones]

Hate prepay, as most have said you have no idea really how much you're gonna need in your bike.

The shell/z/whatever the fuck they wanna call themselbes now around the corner is good, not on prepay and they always unlock it.

Renegade master loves prepay pumps.......... :lol:

-Indy

[slofox]

I have been known to be a bastard about pre-pay before now.

One night at BP Papakura, I refused to leave my eftpos card with the woman in order to fill the wagon. She would only allow me to fill right up (amount unknown) if I left my card with her.

I said "No! You'll probably skim my card details while I'm out there!" She said "Of course I won't." To which I replied "Well I won't steal your fucking gas either! You trust me and I trust you. You don't trust me, I don't trust you. OK?"

She wouldn't do it. So I told her to stick her fucking gas up her fat arse and went along the road a bit to the next servo. Cow...:angry:

I always fill the bike at pay-at-the-pump servos these days. No attendant to play silly games.

The wagon gets filled at one of two stations each time. They are quite happy to allow a fill without me leaving my card with them.

I also take exception to being assumed to be a thief. Assume everyone is a thief and they won't disappoint you...

[pzkpfw]

I hate pre-pay, and in car or on bike, if I pull up to a servo and find the pump is on pre-pay - and I have an option - I just drive or ride off again.

However...


... I cant think of any other service industies that require you to pre pay.

Not sure how this works. Petrol isn't a service, it's a good.

Say you are at a supermarket, if you get to the check-out and find you can't pay - you can just leave the stuff. It's also quite hard to just "run away" with a trolley load of goods.

Service station issues are quite different, it's "hard" to get the petrol back out of a vehicle, and much easier for people to run away with the goods.

(Different at a restaurant (for example), where once people have eaten you don't have much control - though I believe I read dine-and-dash has increased in N.Z. and some places might go pre-pay.)

Anyway - phooey; I hate pre-pay.

[Indiana_Jones]

Service station issues are quite different, it's "hard" to get the petrol back out of a vehicle, and much easier for people to run away with the goods.

(Different at a restaurant (for example), where once people have eaten you don't have much control - though I believe I read dine-and-dash has increased in N.Z. and some places might go pre-pay.)

Anyway - phooey; I hate pre-pay.

I wouldn't mind pre-paying, but you just donno how much you need. It just means you have to go back in to get more. What happens if you over estimate, are they dicks about giving your cash back? :shutup:

-Indy

[slofox]

I wouldn't mind pre-paying, but you just donno how much you need. It just means you have to go back in to get more. What happens if you over estimate, are they dicks about giving your cash back? :shutup:

-Indy

I guess you could go in and ask for $20 worth. Then go back in and say "I need some more - it ain't full. Let's try another $10!"

Then go back again and say "It's nearly full but not quite. Can I have another $2.00?"

And repeat ad nauseam until you are filled to the very brim.

Wonder what would happen?

[Indiana_Jones]

I guess you could go in and ask for $20 worth. Then go back in and say "I need some more - it ain't full. Let's try another $10!"

Then go back again and say "It's nearly full but not quite. Can I have another $2.00?"

And repeat ad nauseam until you are filled to the very brim.

Wonder what would happen?

Ask RM about his prepay pump adventure :yes:

Like that, but more annoying!

-Indy

[bogan]

I wouldn't mind pre-paying, but you just donno how much you need. It just means you have to go back in to get more. What happens if you over estimate, are they dicks about giving your cash back? :shutup:

-Indy

Nah, first and only time I used it, 90 bucks for the van was too much, just go back in and cash refund.

Can't be assed with that shit though, especially when my tank gets 9.2L to reserve, bout 50/50 whether 20 bucks is going to be too much. Plenty of places round palmy that don't do pre-pay to use instead.

[slofox]

Ask RM about his prepay pump adventure :yes:

Like that, but more annoying!

-Indy

I'd love to do that.

[cs363]

I hate pre-pay, and in car or on bike, if I pull up to a servo and find the pump is on pre-pay - and I have an option - I just drive or ride off again.

+ 1 I refuse to use them unless there is absolutely no other option, which is fairly rare.

[Indiana_Jones]

Most places I seem to goto will let a bike fill up, but if they see a young guy in a modded car etc, they tend not to activate the pump :lol:

I guess they figure most bikes will get away with around 15-20L of fuel at the most.

-Indy

[Indiana_Jones]

+ 1 I refuse to use them unless there is absolutely no other option, which is fairly rare.

+1

-Indy

[Ender EnZed]

Never had a problem with them, they always switch them over for some reason

+1.

Never had to pay at any station before having the pump activated.

[p.dath]

...
Not sure how this works. Petrol isn't a service, it's a good.

Say you are at a supermarket, if you get to the check-out and find you can't pay - you can just leave the stuff. It's also quite hard to just "run away" with a trolley load of goods.

Service station issues are quite different, it's "hard" to get the petrol back out of a vehicle, and much easier for people to run away with the goods....

Long ago I used to work at a service station. We used to just syphon the petrol back out when people couldn't pay. It wasn't that big of a deal. You just worked out roughly how many litres to extract, and then take it out.

[Indiana_Jones]

Long ago I used to work at a service station. We used to just syphon the petrol back out when people couldn't pay. It wasn't that big of a deal. You just worked out roughly how many litres to extract, and then take it out.



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-Indy

[awa355]

If you are on a long ride, have a smallish fuel tank and/or use a tank bag which has to be removed, You're going to want to put all you can into the tank.

I use the local Caltex stn mostly. The Ulysses met there, He's pretty good with motorcyclists.
I filled up one day then found my card was not in my wallet. The owner was quite okay letting me race off home to get it. Mind, if he didn't know my face as a regular, it might have been different.

Another occasion, a dear sweet old nana, dressed up, in a late model car was ahead of me at the counter. She had the wrong card and was quite upset, so being a model gentleman I paid for her.$70.00 She was so grateful and got my address so as to pay me back.

I'VE never seen the FUCKING OLD SLAG since. Have seen the car around town tho.

[The Pastor]

I guess you could go in and ask for $20 worth. Then go back in and say "I need some more - it ain't full. Let's try another $10!"

Then go back again and say "It's nearly full but not quite. Can I have another $2.00?"

And repeat ad nauseam until you are filled to the very brim.

Wonder what would happen?

only works on busy days with long ques. The petrol station attendants have more than enough time on their hands and don't give a shit either which way.

[slofox]

Another occasion, a dear sweet old nana, dressed up, in a late model car was ahead of me at the counter. She had the wrong card and was quite upset, so being a model gentleman I paid for her.$70.00 She was so grateful and got my address so as to pay me back.

I'VE never seen the FUCKING OLD SLAG since. Have seen the car around town tho.

She just forgot mate - y'get that when ya get...ummm....thingy...oLD! yeah..old...:facepalm:

[Road kill]

Every now an then when I'm in a different town from where I live "like Papakura" I wrap a rag or something around my number plate an then do a runner,,,,.

LOL,,I have real things to worry about,,prepaid pumps just don't rate on the could give a fuck measure:violin:

[awa355]

She just forgot mate - y'get that when ya get...ummm....thingy...oLD! yeah..old...:facepalm:

To be fair to her, apparently, someone came to the house a day later, but the only one home was our German exchange student ( she with the long long legs and no english). It may have been the old duck. Fuck, she was nice, the student, not the old girl.

[slofox]

( she with the long long legs and no english).

:yes::woohoo::wari::wings::clap::drool::tugger:... :o

[Blackshear]

Unless I have absolutely no other option - I will only fill enough to get me to one that wont charge me for a FILL.
It's just a pain in the asshole.
Only been 2 stations thus far, both fucking Mobils.

Fussin nussin russin prepay bullshit

[davereid]

I wont prepay, or leave a card with them. If they insist I move to another station. After swapping the 95 and 91 handles in their holders. no more sales till they work it out...

[Kickaha]

Serves you cunts right for living in the North Island :yes:

Haven't struck prepay down here yet

[tigertim20]

Do they piss you off? One local sv stn in Te Awamutu seems to be on pre pay throughout the day. All were on PPay after 7pm, except, where the attendant knows me, he will usually unlock the pump and leave me to fill however much I need.

On a bike, when I dont always know how much it will take to fill up ( and most riders top up when filling) it niggles me.

I can understand where the sv stn owner is coming from, but I object to being assumed to be a criminal, when I aint.

I cant think of any other service industies that require you to pre pay.

sex industry workers?

if it irks you that much, vote with your feet, and go to another servo.

[FJRider]

ALL the pumps down this way are pre-pay ... you pay before you leave ... what's the problem ...

YOUR problem ... not OURS ... :violin::violin::violin::violin::violin::violin::v iolin:

[macros87]

I'm sure everyone's watched those "we reckon z is for New Zealand" adds where they ask people to tell them what we want from their gas stations, anybody thought of actually doing that?

If we all went to their website and left hundreds of emails/comments/suggestions box opinions expressing our overwhelming need to pay for gas only after filling up and how the availability of this option dictates our choice of gas provider......

Maybe we would see it as official policy in all shell and z stations to allow motorcycles that privilege! And you know what it would be totally awesome to have one more reason for cage drivers to hate us out jealousy!

[tigertim20]

I wont prepay, or leave a card with them. If they insist I move to another station. After swapping the 95 and 91 handles in their holders. no more sales till they work it out...

haha love it. storing that one in my memory banks

[FJRider]

haha love it. storing that one in my memory banks

Swapping the diesol and 95 pump nozzles is fun at a busy station ... :killingme

[hellokitty]

Yeah, that's what happens when you get older :innocent:
hahahahaha it sprays onto my face otherwise :blink:


Most places I seem to goto will let a bike fill up, but if they see a young guy in a modded car etc, they tend not to activate the pump :lol:

I guess they figure most bikes will get away with around 15-20L of fuel at the most.

-Indy

As a white woman over 35 I obviouslt look "low risk"
In saying that, I did fill my bike and then my card was declined because I had the wrong one in my jacket pocket - I had to ride home and get the other card and then pay :facepalm: I offered to leave something with them but they were cool about it.

[skinman]

I go to pump & stick nozzle in tank. If it fails to fill go to next gas station. There is one shell nearish me that wont unlock the pumps so i dont go there. Only had the one not unlock the pump. I refuse on principle to pay 1st.

[Gremlin]

Never pre-paid... but I do leave my card with some... need the gas somehow...

Worst was one station, won't let me fill. Go up, "You have to pay first". Nope, not paying first, but I will leave you my card. Seems to satisfy him, and back to bike. Try to fill, still can't. "You can't sit on bike while filling". "FFS, give me my card back".

"But sir... I". "GIVE ME MY FUCKEN CARD BACK YOU'VE MADE IT TOO FUCKEN HARD". Down the road, no problem.

I try to use the ones that have real attendants more often (y'know, the ones that actually help people fill). Pakuranga Shell is one. Shell in general is quite good, and I fill up a lot. Flybuys is just as good. A few hundred litres a month is good points.

[Big Dave]

Same as Maha - never had to do it. They always just let me fill it.

[fuknKIWI]

I wouldn't mind pre-paying, but you just donno how much you need. It just means you have to go back in to get more. What happens if you over estimate, are they dicks about giving your cash back? :shutup:

-Indy
Just pump it into the rubbish bin:woohoo:

[Grasshopperus]

The problem is that the gas stations make the employees financially responsible for anyone that doesn't pay up (drive offs). If you were earning minimum wage and any random person could disadvantage you $100+ within a couple of minutes then you'd be doing the same.

I find that 'making the commitment' by removing my helmet before filling up and then maybe a wave at the attendant through the glass always works; apart from at the fucking Papakura BP (not the autobahn, the suburban one) which is entirely peopled by assholes.

[short-circuit]

blah blah..


So now I buy my petrol at the BP near by. Problem solved.


Until they only do prepay as well? Then what?



Most times prepay or not I stick the nozzle in and wait 99 % of the time they just let me fill (car or bike). With the belligerent fuckers that don't - I just lay down the hose on the forecourt and go elsewhere. uckem. Idiots.

Why people put up with that shit, I don't know. Gas stations went from being service stations with service not so very long ago, to this bullshit....fuck that - the more people that discourage it by voting with the feet (wheels) and moving on, the less places will prepay.

[nadroj]

Pull up, put the nozzle in the tank, ignore any voices from speakers nearby, fluff around, clean visor or windscreen, check if pump turned on returning nozzle to pump if not, visit restroom, line up in cue, attempt to pay, saunter off & leave.
The best security rest room in town!

[crystalball]

Yes prepay sucks for bikes :angry:. I have no problem with stations that know me. Sometimes in stations that dont know me I will take my helmet off and wait a wee bit then all good.:yes: What I really hate is when they dont clean up slippery surfaces around petrol pumps. Really stuffs ya grip up on the road.

[p.dath]

...Try to fill, still can't. "You can't sit on bike while filling". "FFS, give me my card back".

That's a pretty standard healthy and safety issue, and most service stations have a poster up saying not to sit on the bike while filling. I assume it is because of the increased danger of the rider being able to escape in the event of a fire.


Until they only do prepay as well? Then what?

There are plenty of service stations in my area. I'll move onto the next one.

[Woodman]

Never struck it down here. Maybe need to go up norf more. yeana.

[bluninja]

pre-pay pees me off. Totally crazy in New Plymouth.....the Caltex is prepay...less than 50 metres away the Mobil isn't. The New World has pay at the pump and in the next street the Shell isn't prepay, nor is the BP.

So if you don't like prepay and you come to NP, don't use the Caltex.

If a gas station needs to go prepay...why doesn't it just get pay at the pump?? Oh I forgot, if you pay at the pump they can't get any secondary sales :blink: Maybe that's the plan, you prepay too much and then have to buy chocolate and pies rather than being refunded.

[short-circuit]

There are plenty of service stations in my area. I'll move onto the next one.

Yeah and same where I am, but on the rare occassion this happens this is my reaction. As I said, the more people accept that crap - the shittier the service will become (more prepay stations)...and fuck that.

[fuknKIWI]

The problem is that the gas stations make the employees financially responsible for anyone that doesn't pay up (drive offs).
That would be illegal as the company is vicariously responsible for the actions of employees:angry:

Other ways of avoiding prepay are tp plan ahead get fuel early or take a jerry can home for topping up after hours. Take the line of least resisitance & do what you want to do anyway.

In the carless day fiasco era I used to carry 20 litres in a backpack to spend the weekend in & around Lyttleton. Being a mobile incendiary bomb didn't phase me.

[Pussy]

Pre-pay is an inconvenience...

but so are the drive-offs to petrol stations.

[cs363]

Pre-pay is an inconvenience...

Yeah, but you look dodgy....... :whistle:

[Pussy]

Yeah, but you look dodgy....... :whistle:

You may have noticed that every time you ride with me, and we pull in to a pre-pay station... that they always unlock the pumps before we go to the counter??? :p

[cs363]

You may have noticed that every time you ride with me, and we pull in to a pre-pay station... that they always unlock the pumps before we go to the counter??? :p

Of course! .........You're with me!! :lol:

[Vacquer0]

I ride to the next town to buy fuel from humans after I pump it into my bike. Thought I was being too demanding. Guess I'm officially an old codger now. Good thread. Fuck that pre-pay bullshit. Innocent until chased down proper.

[Oblivion]

pre-pay pees me off. Totally crazy in New Plymouth.....the Caltex is prepay...less than 50 metres away the Mobil isn't. The New World has pay at the pump and in the next street the Shell isn't prepay, nor is the BP.

So if you don't like prepay and you come to NP, don't use the Caltex.

If a gas station needs to go prepay...why doesn't it just get pay at the pump?? Oh I forgot, if you pay at the pump they can't get any secondary sales :blink: Maybe that's the plan, you prepay too much and then have to buy chocolate and pies rather than being refunded.

Never used Caltex, and this gives me all the more reason not to. Usually I just wait until theres one of the 20c off vouchers from New World. Fill up the car and the Jerry at the same time. And there we are for another week or 2. :yes:

[jafar]

The local Caltex's, Mobil & Shell usually have people out on the forcourt to assist those that want help, can't say I've heard of any drive offs from any of them. In non peak times they do tend to lock the pumps until the attendant sees you.

some Gull stations have pay @ pump, they are marked as the 'express' pump & are often about 5 cents per litre cheaper than the other pumps on site. :woohoo:

[St_Gabriel]

I pull up to the pump, stick the nozzle in the vehicle (always buy bike gas locally so no issues) and stare at the cashier (was going to say attendant but then realised that was wrong nowadays), when they look up (for the console is beeping at them) and see me, they either authorise the pump and I get my gas or they dont authorise the pump and I just remove the nozzle from the tank and lay it on the ground (will keep beeping until the E-stop the pump or hang it up). They cant trust me to get my gas, I cant trust them.