GPS power cable?

[thepom]

Bought a gps power cable with no connectors on it.....I have four wires...red black brown and white.....any one know which two match up to the pos and neg for hard wiring to the bike ?.....

[ADVGD]

Bought a gps power cable with no connectors on it.....I have four wires...red black brown and white.....any one know which two match up to the pos and neg for hard wiring to the bike ?.....

Yeah its easy mate, just follow this basic wiring diagram below:

http://www.piclist.com/images/www/hobby_elec/gif/pic6_322.gif

:p

[Transalper]

If this looks right and you are sure of voltage/fuse position etc... (LINKY scroll down to the The Dr. T.V. diagram. (http://www.pfranc.com/projects/g45contr/assemb.htm))
...I'd go with
Red = +ve
Black = -ve
Brown = data out (not used for this application)
White = data in (also not used for powering from bike)

I see they are available here for $20 from KiwiGPS. (http://www.kiwigps.co.nz/product.php?id_product=77) from which you could have tested and cut the plug off yourself.
I hope there was nothing special hiding in the ciggy lighter end.... still assuming it's this plug you have.

[thepom]

No plug just bare wires............15 bucks.....

[NordieBoy]

You may also need to short one of the data wires to ground or the gps will think it's plugged into a computer.

[JMemonic]

Note USB voltage is 5 volt, I hope your gps interface is not USB or you do need some form of power regulation.

If it is USB where did you get the cable from? I have need of a couple.

[thepom]

No usb,just the cable and bare wires ......bought from pilot_shop on trade me....I was going to hardwire straight to the battery......

[NordieBoy]

No usb,just the cable and bare wires ......bought from pilot_shop on trade me....I was going to hardwire straight to the battery......

Ahh. Then you'll melt your gps.

[Transalper]

Stick a picture up so everyone can see what you have.
The GPS is the Garmin Map60CSx IIRC and I'm still assuming it's the round 4 pin serial plug you are working with as that is the usual one they use for external power being water resistant and all.
I am sure it's not the USB one.

We really do need to be sure there was no fancy stuff missing off the open wire end as all the pictures I have found so far include a bigger than expected ciggy lighter plug where you have just got wires making me think the end has been cut off by someone or is this supposed to be an as new item that never did have anything attached that end?

[Transalper]

Here Mr ThePom.... same question on ADV.... http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=470766

But for crips sake use a fuse.
The garmin equilivent is here.... https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=519
The ones on trademe from your seller are Gilsson GPS cables... http://www.gilsson.com/garmin_gps/cables/rb.htm

I think you be ok. but would be happier knowing for sure that the Map60CSx is designed to take the full 12 volts that way.
Vague recollection of a discussion with Tony at KiwiGPS before buying the old Etrex years ago with mention of that socket on the Map60's with referance to 12 volt power.

Edit: decided what the heck, I just emailed Tony at KiwiGPS... even though you didn't get it from him.

Have also now read your manual and quote

Power
Source: Two 1.5 volt AA batteries, USB Data Cable, 12 Volt DC Adapter Cable or up to 26 Volt DC external power.

So I have more confidence now.

[Transalper]

Heard back from Tony at KiwiGPS (http://kiwigps.co.nz/), he is a good guy and I still recommend him to anyone....

Hi Carl, pleased to help - I have those cables and a wide variety of other stuff too if he ever needs bits and pieces.

Yes, you're correct, just wire to 12 volts directly but it's a good idea of course to fit an in-line fuse. 1 Amp is plenty.

The 60 series can take from 7 to about 30 volts direct. Most units can take a wide voltage range but GPS 12 was strictly 7 volts and the early eTrex 3 volts.

The attached PDF may be of interest too.

All the best - Tony Savage

So using a 1amp fuse in the the red wire for +ve to 12volts.
Black to -ve
Insulate the rest.
Done. :rockon:


Now just looking again at ADVDG's diagram I just realised the answer was probably there all along, such a helpful bloke and so quick, one day I hope we can all have the opportunity to help him back in the same capacity :kick::bleh::laugh:

[Crim]

Heard back from Tony at KiwiGPS (http://kiwigps.co.nz/), he is a good guy and I still recommend him to anyone....


Just had a look at Tony's website - he supplies the "plugless" cables for a cool $15 as well :woohoo: - might even have to wire my one in as well!

[thepom]

Yaeh,cheers for the help trans........josh is always there when you need him...:yes:

No worries crim,once I set fire to my gps I ll let you know not what to do....:facepalm:

[Crim]

No worries crim,once I set fire to my gps I ll let you know not what to do....:facepalm:

I was hoping that......................

[Waihou Thumper]

Could you just cut them off seeing that two of the wires were for data port only? Cut them, and then tidy up the remaining junction with insulation? Is that what you intend doing? I melted a 12V supply on my exhaust when it fell out of the socket, the local sparky wired in a 1 amp fuse and did the work for cheap...

[thepom]

Spot on thumper ,that is exactly what I will do as soon as I get a fuse.....

[Waihou Thumper]

Wired up the Husky this afternoon, all good. Just make sure that when you turn off the bike or turn on the bike the GPS should still stay powered up with battery if you have them inside. This helps heaps, because the GPS will not require re-booting, just switched over to alternative supply :)

[Crim]

Heard back from Tony at KiwiGPS (http://kiwigps.co.nz/), he is a good guy and I still recommend him to anyone....


Just got back from Tony at KiwiGPS :niceone: - he is more helpful than a really helpful bloke in Helpsville on the 15th May (that is the day they have their annual "who is the most helpful bloke" competition)!

Anyway got a cable - as for in line 1 Amp fuse - I reckon I might run it off the heated grips - existing 5 Amp in line fuse, already "switched" to my ignition - they reckon they run a max of 4 Amp, and I never run at 100% so by my maths.........:woohoo:
While I was there Tony was running me through stuff on my GPS - checked files, software etc (I tell you that man is helpful!) anyway mentioned that he does back covers for the 60CSx as that is a known weakness :blink: - he showed me where it will eventually crack and low and behold was already cracked :facepalm: so I got that sorted as well :yes:

[thepom]

Tell me about your crack...:facepalm:

[Waihou Thumper]

he showed me where it will eventually crack and low and behold was already cracked :facepalm: so I got that sorted as well :yes:

I have had three of these units, all haven't cracked, so it is a hit and miss....:) $9.95 US plus US $1.49 shipping, and that is to New Zealand too. Arrives here in five working days :)http://www.gpscity.com/garmin-60-series-battery-cover.html

[Crim]

Tell me about your crack...:facepalm:

the lug at the bottom of the back plate is a known weak spot - although as said I am sure some are stronger than others - not an expensive fix and I will super glue my cracked one as a spare

[NordieBoy]

the lug at the bottom of the back plate is a known weak spot - although as said I am sure some are stronger than others - not an expensive fix and I will super glue my cracked one as a spare

Put the glue on thickly and sprinkle baking soda on it.

[Crim]

Put the glue on thickly and sprinkle baking soda on it.

I didn't take you for an old wife, Fran, or is this not a tale - does it make it super super glue and is it suitable for all applications or just "hard" plastic?

Kenny, sitting here having a 2009 Rolling Shiraz (try it it is bally good) to celebrate beating you to wiring my GPS in, was sitting watching 24 hours in A & E and thought why? so popped into the man cave 1/2 hour later she is plumbed into the hot grips relay switch - had a full tank of gas so just pulled the wires up under and cable tied but will take the tank off soon and make her purty - it works just like a bought one, when I turn my key on, GPS lights up and when I turn key off it says "lost external power source" you just hit any button (which keeps GPS on battery power but turns back light off) or turn it off or just leave it and it turns itself off in 30 seconds

[NordieBoy]

I didn't take you for an old wife, Fran, or is this not a tale - does it make it super super glue and is it suitable for all applications or just "hard" plastic?
Suitable for anything superglue sticks to.

It acts as a catalyst and makes it set really quickly and really hard. You can use it to fill gaps. If you leave it too long it's like trying to file glass.

Drip an overkill amount on and dust the soda over it. It will not break or crack there again.
You can even chamfer the edges like for welding to give it a groove to fill.

It's also known as welding powder, but that costs a little more...