View Full Version : You have the best Bucket now what about the best F4?
all4A50s
29th September 2011, 20:45
Before people go the world of buckets are at an end/Formula 4 is only about the money/or can't we all just get along and idea I pondered instead of really trying to see the designers idea and state of mind when choosing of the shade of wall paint in my room at the Blessed Ward 5 North of Wgtn Hospital.
As there is a "Best of Presented Bucket" how about "Best Developed/Presented Formula 4" bike as well.
It seems to me we now have two groups bikes competing and it comes down to this for me a bucket bike is basically where you have taken an engine from one type of bike and put it into frame of another type and a formula bike is one with engine and frame are from the same type.
Yes? no? Not another draft Idea George? Let me know.
Moooools
29th September 2011, 20:56
You'll try anything to beat me at something George :innocent:
Kickaha
30th September 2011, 05:41
It seems to me we now have two groups bikes competing and it comes down to this for me a bucket bike is basically where you have taken an engine from one type of bike and put it into frame of another type and a formula bike is one with engine and frame are from the same type.
Buckets/F4 are one and the same regardless of engine/frame
For some reason some people seem to be embarrassed about he being associated with the name Buckets so they try and wank it up a bit by using the name F4
Buckets4Me
30th September 2011, 06:09
Buckets/F4 are one and the same regardless of engine/frame
For some reason some people seem to be embarrassed about he being associated with the name Buckets so they try and wank it up a bit by using the name F4
or maby they are trying to fit in with the REAL RACERS :facepalm:
but F4 and F5 (dont forget the smaller class) are what i ride and together they are BUCKETS :woohoo::scooter:
Trudes
30th September 2011, 06:14
"Buckets" is F4 & F5 so why try and separate by differentiating between something that has been "bucketed" and not even remotely like how it was made in Japan (or Korea, China etc), and that which has had some fancy bits inserted and $$ spent on it.
The problem I have with "best" competitions is that unless there is some scientific way of judging, i.e. a race or most power delivered etc it's subjective and opinion based.
Anyway, we all know Rangi is the best bucket that ever graced the earth.
See, my opinion. Surely there's no bucket that is more loved by it's pilot (and secretly adored by others ;))
So how many cracks in the ceiling? I recall there were 6 when I stayed and about 26 spots of fly shit.
Dutchee
30th September 2011, 08:39
It's funny, we had our buckets (F4 and F5 bikes) lined up, with the FXR and the FXL next to each other. The FXL was on its first outing, I think, and a couple of spectators thought the FXL was "more like it" (without all the plastic stuff, a piece of wood for a seat etc).
I have noticed at Mt Wellington that we've dropped the name A grade, and we now run F4, B grade and F5.
As to which bike is best, so long as you're happy riding your bike, it's all good. At the moment I prefer the FXL, but get frustrated when it decides not to play any more and learning as to now what's gone wrong. I have learnt that when it starts coughing and spluttering and acting like there's no gas, it's actually saying that there's no juice in the battery, so the battery has to be charged up overnight on Saturdays.
As for Rangi being the bestest bike, I'm pretty sure the verdict was that Rangi's the scariest bike and a huge amount of fun because of it ;) Now get him fixed Trudes, we've got a race coming up, and if you don't make Taupo, I'm going to sulk.
koba
30th September 2011, 08:59
Another daft idea George!
I guess for shits and giggles all sorts of "Best" prizes could be devised though...
Best leather scuff
Most horrific injury
Biggest whinger
Scariest bucket (agree with Dutchee, Rangi owns this currently)
Most crashes
Most spectacular crash
The "port on the corner" award for excellence in reverse digestion.
Add to that the possibility of making sidebets involving horrible penalties for the winner and/or loser...
I guess the point I'm tying to make is it doesn't really matter as long as we have a bit of fun and laughs along the way.
Plus it's all better than telly.
Henk
30th September 2011, 14:21
Another daft idea George!
I guess the point I'm tying to make is it doesn't really matter as long as we have a bit of fun and laughs along the way.
Fun? Fie on you, this is serious racing, can't be any fun had.
Kendog
30th September 2011, 15:20
Plus it's all better than telly.
Your just saying that cause they moved Coro.
Buckets4Me
30th September 2011, 17:00
Surely there's no bucket that is more loved by it's pilot (and secretly adored by others ;))
what ever happened to pamela ?
Trudes
30th September 2011, 17:21
what ever happened to pamela ?
Ahh, dear Pamela. Pammy went to live with a friend who raped and modified her some (all with love) and then she was no longer Pamela but the TapeWorm. Then was sold to a young man who has done further modifications and we haven't seen for about a year. Sad really, she was a true classy bitch (bucket).
richban
30th September 2011, 18:04
Buckets and F4 / F5 same deal really. What I want to know is why the feck would you change the name of F3 to Superlite or what ever the fuck they call it now. Not cool. Anything with F at the start is much more cooler er.
Best F4 / bucket goes to my bike. Coz I said. So it must be true.
Skunk
30th September 2011, 18:19
Superlite is a new ruleset. F3 is gone. The current MNZ rulebook only has two Formula classes in it: F4 and F5 (Buckets Rule!).
F1 - gone.
F2 - gone.
F3 - gone.
BTW: if anyway has an old rulebook with F1 and F2 in it I want photocopies!
Buckets4Me
30th September 2011, 19:39
Best F4 / bucket goes to my bike. Coz I said. So it must be true.
anyone who uses a spade to change tyres must have the coolest bucket (and a good f4 bike)
all4A50s
30th September 2011, 21:17
Buckets and F4 / F5 same deal really.
If this is true shouldn't all bikes being raced be able to qualify for best presented bucket unlike last year where there were some didn't qualify for this prize?
I was thinking of those who put work into presenting their bike and not what goes on on the track.
Henk
30th September 2011, 21:23
At the end of the day it's bucket RACING.
What goes on off the track is all good fun but kind of misses the point I think. Our collection of buckets all started out looking OK when they were built but crashing seems to be such a big part of the sport (at least the way I ride) that trying to keep them looking nice would be an exercise in futility and heartbreak.
I know you guys have some non competition prizes down there, up here we don't bother.
hmurphy
30th September 2011, 22:13
I once won worst engineered bucket. At the moment there is some quite stiff opposition for this title down here that I may not win it again in the near future. Certainly a good laugh... until it catches up with you and the bike spits you off when it has shit itself and you break a wrist.
Yow Ling
1st October 2011, 08:22
While I cant claim best bucket, I have a starter for "Impressive bucket injury"
received in pre race practice on my driveway. Seems to have come right now
koba
1st October 2011, 08:26
While I cant claim best bucket, I have a starter for "Impressive bucket injury"
received in pre race practice on my driveway. Seems to have come right now
That added nicely to my lazy Saturday morning breakfast...
Kickaha
1st October 2011, 08:33
I have a starter for "Impressive bucket injury"
I think this topic should have a thread devoted to it
Buckets4Me
1st October 2011, 19:46
While I cant claim best bucket, I have a starter for "Impressive bucket injury"
received in pre race practice on my driveway. Seems to have come right now
you where of cause wearing full leathers and all the saftey gear :facepalm:
maby we could have the stupidest thing we have done on a bucket thread
Yow Ling
1st October 2011, 20:14
you where of cause wearing full leathers and all the saftey gear :facepalm:
maby we could have the stupidest thing we have done on a bucket thread
I could enter it in both threads, in some countries slippers, tee shirt and shorts are considered safety equipment
Henk
1st October 2011, 20:53
In some counties, roller blade races around kart tracks in the dead of night, in the rain, after several hours of drinking are considered a good idea. I know somebody wore a crash helmet, probably a good thing, he fell over a lot.
Clivoris
1st October 2011, 20:58
I think we should have a prize for the biggest shit stirring bucket racer with the most impaired lung capacity.:Pokey: While you're polishing your trophy George you might want to take some time out fix my CBR suspension.
Str8 Jacket
2nd October 2011, 11:25
In some counties, roller blade races around kart tracks in the dead of night, in the rain, after several hours of drinking are considered a good idea.
What do you mean 'are considered good ideas'? I don't think that we really considered anything beforehand....... That was an awesome weekend! :D
Henk
2nd October 2011, 12:27
What do you mean 'are considered good ideas'? I don't think that we really considered anything beforehand....... That was an awesome weekend! :D
I think some of the less clever and more inebriatted of us considered, very briefly, firing up the bikes. Good thing there were wiser heads and rollerblades on hand. Indeed a weekend I'll probably treasure the rest of my days. You guys going to be repaired for the rematch in January?
koba
2nd October 2011, 12:33
I think some of the less clever and more inebriatted of us considered, very briefly, firing up the bikes. Good thing there were wiser heads and rollerblades on hand. Indeed a weekend I'll probably treasure the rest of my days. You guys going to be repaired for the rematch in January?
I bloodyfuckenhopeso.
Dutchee
2nd October 2011, 13:04
I think some of the less clever and more inebriatted of us considered, very briefly, firing up the bikes. Good thing there were wiser heads and rollerblades on hand. Indeed a weekend I'll probably treasure the rest of my days. You guys going to be repaired for the rematch in January?
I only recall one drunken idiot thinking taking the bikes out on the track was a good idea. Not sure anyone else was that drunk or that stupid.
all4A50s
2nd October 2011, 14:57
I think we should have a prize for the biggest shit stirring bucket racer with the most impaired lung capacity.:Pokey: While you're polishing your trophy George you might want to take some time out fix my CBR suspension.
Give me $1500 and I'll have your suspension working perfect.
Str8 Jacket
2nd October 2011, 15:38
I think some of the less clever and more inebriatted of us considered, very briefly, firing up the bikes. Good thing there were wiser heads and rollerblades on hand. Indeed a weekend I'll probably treasure the rest of my days. You guys going to be repaired for the rematch in January?
I bloodyfuckenhopeso.
Same, but who knows. I still haven't got anywhere near being able to get medical clearance to race again, sigh.......
hmurphy
3rd October 2011, 12:41
I'm coming with you guys if you are going up. I wanna do that track too, turn 1 looks awesome! Plus this whole pitch black, drunken roller blading sounds great
Tard
3rd October 2011, 15:11
I think we should have a prize for the biggest shit stirring bucket racer with the most impaired lung capacity.:Pokey:.
:laugh:Potential for best bucket thread ever?!
1) Best/Worst Looking Bucket
2) Best/Worst Engineered Bucket
3) Cheapest Bucket based on $(a / Years(b x Races(c or whateva calculation you like!
4) Most impressive Injury (on a bucket)
5) Most broken bucketeer
6) Most travelled bucket?
7) + + +
8) A scientific ratio calculating and totalling all-of-the-above! :sherlock:
...none involve who got where. At end of the day, everyone who turns up to race for whatever reason probably wins in some way - 100% faster than armchair experts and net warriors! :tugger: bring on the flaming
Yow Ling
3rd October 2011, 16:18
:laugh:Potential for best bucket thread ever?!
1) Best/Worst Looking Bucket
2) Best/Worst Engineered Bucket
3) Cheapest Bucket based on $(a / Years(b x Races(c or whateva calculation you like!
4) Most impressive Injury (on a bucket)
5) Most broken bucketeer
6) Most travelled bucket?
7) + + +
8) A scientific ratio calculating and totalling all-of-the-above! :sherlock:
...none involve who got where. At end of the day, everyone who turns up to race for whatever reason probably wins in some way - 100% faster than armchair experts and net warriors! :tugger: bring on the flaming
9) Just post heaps of silly , interesting , funny , sad , rediculous shit in this thread give George some thing to laugh about
Buddha#81
3rd October 2011, 17:43
No. 3 and 6.......paid $1000 for my FXR and did 3500 race km plus the km that Sketchy did and rebuilt it and only did the rod kit (mains cage was in two bits) and a set of rings.........now thats good value racing.
Kickaha
3rd October 2011, 17:51
No. 3 and 6.......paid $1000 for my FXR .
$1000? you must be crazy, I paid half that for my FXR :bleh:
Str8 Jacket
3rd October 2011, 18:02
I'm coming with you guys if you are going up. I wanna do that track too, turn 1 looks awesome! Plus this whole pitch black, drunken roller blading sounds great
Yeah, I reckon we just plan to go anyway and you and Malcolm can share the driving. I'm happy to come up even if not riding....
Str8 Jacket
3rd October 2011, 18:07
8) A scientific ratio calculating and totalling all-of-the-above! :sherlock:
I'd be in to win this, lol! I bought my bike for well under $1000 and have used it as a commuter and bucket racer for the past 3 years and it has done in excess of 30,000k's in that time (almost gone round the clock!)..... it's hardly cost me much for maintenance etc either.
Though it'd probably be one of the 'shittiest' buckets around and I may well be one of the more "broken whilst racing away from home' racers in Welly's :facepalm:
Dutchee
3rd October 2011, 19:39
9) Just post heaps of silly , interesting , funny , sad , rediculous shit in this thread give George some thing to laugh about
i second that motion.
30,000k in three years Str8? Feck. I've slowed down on the road riding and my almost 4yo bike's done over 40k. This winter seemed a killer and the k's just didn't seem to be going up. Roll on summer. I guess Max's k's have gone up a little bit (not much either). Good thing is Henk doesn't want bikes with over 50k on them, so I'm up for a new bike soon :)
Hmm, best I go shopping soon. (reckon he'll read this and tell me I've got to put up with the old bird for another year or two).
Trudes
3rd October 2011, 20:16
How about stupidest crash whilst in the pits award? Surely I could win that twice and I had an audience for both :o :killingme
Buckets4Me
3rd October 2011, 20:19
it's hardly cost me much for maintenance etc either.
how long have you been blowing up bikes ?
Kickaha
3rd October 2011, 20:32
How about stupidest crash whilst in the pits award? Surely I could win that twice and I had an audience for both :o :killingme
Actually Yow Ling would have a really good entry for that one to although it wasn't on a Bucket:blink:
Str8 Jacket
3rd October 2011, 20:33
i second that motion.
30,000k in three years Str8? Feck.
Remember that I can't drive a car....
how long have you been blowing up bikes ?
Since I gave up on two smokers? None..... :facepalm:
Str8 Jacket
3rd October 2011, 20:34
How about stupidest crash whilst in the pits award? Surely I could win that twice and I had an audience for both :o :killingme
At least you didn't break your foot and rib in a warm up lap! :facepalm:
Dutchee
3rd October 2011, 21:08
Not in the pits. Leaving a bike shop, dumped the bike.
Oh, dropping a bike back at a bike shop, go over a pole to dump the bike in the showroom.
Leaving home, skid out on the driveway - week off work (damaged my knees, yet again).
Hmm, plenty other stupid arse things I've done.
At one stage, I was riding a TTR125 four stroke off road to get some confidence on my KDX200. Race day rolled around, and I decided to take the KDX out. Only thing was I'd sort of forgotten how to ride two strokes properly. Every big sandy hill I got to, I got stuck on. Unfortunately, that meant that the lead rider got to see me stuck on every damned hill. Good thing he kept telling Henk I was making progress - I was stuck on yet another hill further on. Not long before the pits, there was yet another hill (3rd biggish one) so I decided enough was enough, and sat down to watch everyone else. Was about 5 minutes from the pits, I knew how easy it was to get back to "home", but just sat around for an hour or so. Think that was around the time I stopped riding the TTR.
But I think the worst crash I had was I ran into a tree. The reason for crashing was nasty (tree root) and months later (about 5), I got talking to a couple of people, who asked "oh, are you Michelle who crashed because of a tree root and had it written up in a magazine". Hmmm, I found out who my friends are.
Okay none bucket-related, but still all bike related stupid shit I've done :)
F5 Dave
4th October 2011, 08:48
....
Since I gave up on two smokers? None..... :facepalm:
Hey -my old H100 survived its tenure in your hands. But then again it did break your foot.:shutup: Almost did mine when I cartwheeled over Speedpro. Maybe I should have called it Christine:shit:
Str8 Jacket
4th October 2011, 11:05
Hey -my old H100 survived its tenure in your hands. But then again it did break your foot.:shutup: Almost did mine when I cartwheeled over Speedpro. Maybe I should have called it Christine:shit:
Yes, just more proof of your amazing ability to build awesome engines! The only reason that I sold that bike was because it was the only one I had that was working and needed a commuter.... In hindsight it probably would've been sweet as to ride to work as long as the coppers didn't notice :laugh:
F5 Dave
4th October 2011, 11:14
I think the wheelies would have got your collar felt pretty quickly:woohoo: At least the stealth paint job would have helped more than the signal orange I had it painted (same can painted my current 100 15 odd yrs ago)
koba
4th October 2011, 14:37
Christine:shit:
No, Christine was more a lull you in to a false sense of security type, that old H had me weak with fear immediately! :crybaby:
gatch
12th October 2011, 22:06
I think the best presented bucket should go to the one who has done the best crash repairs during the day.
That or whoever has taken it upon themselves to be different and is wearing a 10L on their head..
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