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Big Dave
13th July 2005, 01:17
Stock Photos, but the layouts were still fun.

Motu
13th July 2005, 07:28
Are Triumph trying to copy the old Norton adds? They were class....

John
13th July 2005, 08:17
Stock Photos, but the layouts were still fun.
I was amused with the speed tickle one more so :)

Flyingpony
13th July 2005, 08:27
Never seen any Suzuki advertisements like that.

John
13th July 2005, 08:30
re: suzuki ad "new bicke, many much more horses of power - feel rumble in power"

:lol:

Lou Girardin
13th July 2005, 09:14
I don't know what they're trying to say about Triumph owners Dave, but it isn't complimentary.

pete376403
13th July 2005, 09:27
Are Triumph trying to copy the old Norton adds? They were class....Yeah, that and the BSA Rocket III (The original) ads in Cycle magazine back in 1969 - 1970. I recall the great pornography debate in the letters column of that magazine over those ads.
(I think I've still got a few of the old mags in a box in the attic somewhere)

Motu
13th July 2005, 09:52
Yeah, that and the BSA Rocket III (The original) ads in Cycle magazine back in 1969 - 1970. I recall the great pornography debate in the letters column of that magazine over those ads.
(I think I've still got a few of the old mags in a box in the attic somewhere)

Ha,ha - I was going to mention the BSA adds,but doubted anyone here would know a BSA let alone the adds....to a young and impressionable teenager the BSA adds implied the more seedy and sinister side of motorcycles....red paint and shiny chrome,scantily clad women in evocotive poses,certainly more exciting than meeting the nicest people on a Honda!

pete376403
13th July 2005, 11:05
Ha,ha - I was going to mention the BSA adds,but doubted anyone here would know a BSA let alone the adds....to a young and impressionable teenager the BSA adds implied the more seedy and sinister side of motorcycles....red paint and shiny chrome,scantily clad women in evocotive poses,certainly more exciting than meeting the nicest people on a Honda!

Remember this one? It is in two parts as I can't work out how to stitch the bits back together.
(would have been more effective if I'd posted those in the correct order...)

Motu
13th July 2005, 11:09
You need to get off your high horse mate. Your starting to piss a few people off with your "I'm better than anyone else" attitude.
There are people here that know a hell of a lot more than you think.

It's up to you to prove I don't know everything - until then then you are all a bunch of fuckwits and my superiority is unchallenged! :rofl:

enigma51
13th July 2005, 11:54
Remember this one? It is in two parts as I can't work out how to stitch the bits back together.
(would have been more effective if I'd posted those in the correct order...)
Those back shocks looks nice and hmmmmm scary!!!!!

Motu
13th July 2005, 12:18
Why is it then that I went to bed last night and everything with the wife was just fine and dandy.
Today I wake up and BAM.. its like Jekyl and Hyde, and I am in the friken dog box... nothing has happened between last night and this morning. Shes all pissed off and and I'm a lazy this and a fucken that... She's gone out for coffee now. So .... mr knowledge.. explain that one.. Many men would like to know this answer.:whistle:

WELL DONE SIR!!! you have just proven I don't know everything and am no better than anyone else.Case solved,you can now put that one to rest.

2_SL0
13th July 2005, 12:19
Why is it then that I went to bed last night and everything with the wife was just fine and dandy.
Today I wake up and BAM.. its like Jekyl and Hyde, and I am in the friken dog box... nothing has happened between last night and this morning. Shes all pissed off and and I'm a lazy this and a fucken that... She's gone out for coffee now. So .... mr knowledge.. explain that one.. Many men would like to know this answer.:whistle:


I have the answer...........................
women are :weird:

Big Dave
13th July 2005, 12:26
You need to get off your high horse mate. Your starting to piss a few people off with your "I'm better than anyone else" attitude.
There are people here that know a hell of a lot more than you think.


I even know what the 'Gold Star' was awarded for.

John
13th July 2005, 12:32
It's up to you to prove I don't know everything - until then then you are all a bunch of fuckwits and my superiority is unchallenged! :rofl:
Whats the meaning of life oh mighty one? I can handle it!

Big Dave
13th July 2005, 12:50
Whats the meaning of life oh mighty one? I can handle it!


........42.

Lou Girardin
13th July 2005, 12:51
I'm pleased to see someone else soaking up the vitriol for a while.
Motu you're a :motu:


Just remembered; pt pt pt :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:

Motu
13th July 2005, 13:08
I'm pleased to see someone else soaking up the vitriol for a while.
Motu you're a :motu:


Just remembered; pt pt pt :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:

I am here to serve...

Motu
13th July 2005, 13:09
I even know what the 'Gold Star' was awarded for.

Was it for a speling test?

Lou Girardin
13th July 2005, 13:22
I even know what the 'Gold Star' was awarded for.

Getting out of the factory under it's own power?

Big Dave
13th July 2005, 15:56
The Gold Star - as in 'BSA Gold Star' was an award for:
'A lap with an average speed of 100mph at the banked timber track at Brooklands UK'.

Big Dave
13th July 2005, 16:16
Are Triumph trying to copy the old Norton adds? They were class....


I'd not looked at it from that angle before - perhaps they are.

This campaign starts with the series of girls being hacked off about the partner's love of Triumphs.

Part 2 has them both going for incredibly long rides for a quick lunch or he pisses off altogether and she's still not happy.

Part 3 has the bike parked outside the divorce lawyers office and copy with her saying 'He said I could have the house, the cats, everything. He only wanted one thing....His thruxton'

So more to it than the BSA/Norton sexy girl thing - there is a story as well.
The co-pilot doesn't like the campaign - She just says why doesn't the bimbo just go too?' - But she's as hard core motorcyclist as I am.

It won 'Brand of the Year' in the UK and sales are very strong on most models.
They also should talk a good deal on a t100 or Thruxton at the moment.

And that T100 is such a thang of beauty. You reckon I haven't got a soft spot for one of them black and white and gold honeys:
Me at 21:
(no comments about the Duran Duran hair OK)

Motu
13th July 2005, 16:17
When my brother painted the tank on his 69 Lightning he had the big gold stars on the tank real gold plated then laquered - it only cost $6 each back then.The 68 to 70 BSAs were gorgeous,all red and chrome and sculptured lines,the 71 grey frame jobs were ghastly,although the last Rocket was a thing of beauty.

pete376403
13th July 2005, 16:52
The older ones weren't that shabby,either. A guy I knew had a Spitfire with a factory race motor with a funny engine number - ZB31-xxx. An old B31 was taken over to England, the Spit motor fitted and as it was never intended for the road, it had no number. The B31 motor was applied and it came back with customs being none the wiser. After it was put into a Lightning frame 'twas a very nice jigger indeed. Difficult to ride around town, though. Amal GPs were never intended for that sort of thing.
Anyway, while looking for the Rocket III ad, found this.

idb
13th July 2005, 17:32
Italian girls are yummy no?

Ixion
13th July 2005, 17:46
The older ones weren't that shabby,either. A guy I knew had a Spitfire with a factory race motor with a funny engine number - ZB31-xxx. An old B31 was taken over to England, the Spit motor fitted and as it was never intended for the road, it had no number. The B31 motor was applied and it came back with customs being none the wiser. After it was put into a Lightning frame 'twas a very nice jigger indeed. Difficult to ride around town, though. Amal GPs were never intended for that sort of thing.
Anyway, while looking for the Rocket III ad, found this.

That's a Thunderbolt. Twas the bike I coveted above all else.Except maybe a Thruxton (the real one) Ended up with the Royal Star, the A50, which was nice , but I wanted the A65.

Motu
13th July 2005, 18:18
I feel your pain Ixion,exactly like my XT400 - visualy identical to the XT600,but it's not the real thing! I thought the unit BSA was a great motor,all the blunders of the A10 fixed....unit construction (again),triplex primary,Triumph clutch,cassete gearbox with reversable and interchangable sliding dogs,no rocker box and easily assemble cyl head,the A10 was a nightmare of Hollywood proportion - but....but...they didn't put a ball bearing on the timing side! Just the stupid bronze bush,a total waste of a redesign.

Ixion
13th July 2005, 18:27
I feel your pain Ixion,exactly like my XT400 - visualy identical to the XT600,but it's not the real thing! I thought the unit BSA was a great motor,all the blunders of the A10 fixed....unit construction (again),triplex primary,Triumph clutch,cassete gearbox with reversable and interchangable sliding dogs,no rocker box and easily assemble cyl head,the A10 was a nightmare of Hollywood proportion - but....but...they didn't put a ball bearing on the timing side! Just the stupid bronze bush,a total waste of a redesign.

Yeah, and only that stupid little bush in the cover to get the oil into the crank for the bigends. I could not understand, if they wanted plain mains (which could be a valid design decision) why they didn't go the well proven car route and use shell bearings. The triplex chain was lovely though after breaking so many pre unit Triumph ones.

pete376403
14th July 2005, 12:27
Thunderbolt was the single carb (concentric) version, Lightening was the twin carb (still concentrics), Spitfire was a limited production factory hot rod, with (among other things) twin Amal GPs. (amal = metered leak). All based on the A65 motor. The A50 was the 500 version, but AFAIK there wasn't a 500 Spitfire.
http://www.classicbikeguide.com/archive/june2003/junea2003.htm

Also that triplex primary chain may not have been such a good idea - strong as hell it might have been, but also incredibly rigid in terms of sideways motion, so when the crankshaft flexed (as they did on account of the shitty main bearings) the chain didn't and the crank would break. Apparently this was a big problem in the early Trident/Rocket III motors.

And if its oddball mixtures of crank shaft bearings, how about the Matchless G50 - ball bearing outer mains, a centre plain main and plain rod bearings.

Ixion
14th July 2005, 12:44
Thunderbolt was the single carb (concentric) version, Lightening was the twin carb (still concentrics), Spitfire was a limited production factory hot rod, with (among other things) twin Amal GPs. (amal = metered leak). All based on the A65 motor. The A50 was the 500 version, but AFAIK there wasn't a 500 Spitfire.
http://www.classicbikeguide.com/archive/june2003/junea2003.htm

Also that triplex primary chain may not have been such a good idea - strong as hell it might have been, but also incredibly rigid in terms of sideways motion, so when the crankshaft flexed (as they did on account of the shitty main bearings) the chain didn't and the crank would break. Apparently this was a big problem in the early Trident/Rocket III motors.

And if its oddball mixtures of crank shaft bearings, how about the Matchless G50 - ball bearing outer mains, a centre plain main and plain rod bearings.

No, never a Spitfire version of the A50. There was a "Lightning" equivalent of the A50, the Cyclone (twin carbs) but I've never seen one. There was also an A65 Rocket between the Lightning and the Spitfire. And some USA models like the Firebird scrambler.

The Spitfire was a total pig for ordinary riding - those GP carbs, and the high compression. And not fast enough on the track to hold off the Nortons and Triumphs.

Matchless and BSA both smashed bottom ends because of those silly bearings. Plain and roller mixed is fine when new. But once the roller wears the plain bearing ends up trying to hold the crank in position all on its own, which it can't do. Either the crank breaks , cos it's only supported at one end effectively, or the plain bearing shits itself, and you lose oil supply to the big ends, and usually break a conrod. Stupid stupid stupid idea.